I don't think my emotional status concerning this woman is anyone's business other than her's and mine and I don't think it has anything to do with this thread, does it?

I'm certainly not out to "get a nut and leave". Never been and never will be, because it's boring.

All I wanted to speculate about was why she may dislike being licked and whether other women on here do so too and why they dislike it!

^ Don't mind my other comments, I misread what Shanti wrote.

Shanti0608 said:

Just curious, does she like to pleasure herself?

Some time when women are not into having sexual alone time exploring, they are uncomfortable doing certain things.

I am old and get bored so I like to try new things.

She does. She even owns a little purple vibrator (and calls it "Dave").

SoLiDiFy said:

More than likely hasn't had it done right(aka a bad experience)

She also said that many guys have proudly said "they just haven't done it right, lemme try and you'll see!" and that it was just as bad as every time.

But the chance is still there that she was unfortunate enough to have men who didn't know what to do/how to react to certain "signs" only. We'll see.

Dave1992 said:

Shanti0608 said:

Just curious, does she like to pleasure herself?

Some time when women are not into having sexual alone time exploring, they are uncomfortable doing certain things.

I am old and get bored so I like to try new things.

She does. She even owns a little purple vibrator (and calls it "Dave").

I am not a big fan of machinery being involved. I got two hands, imagination and music. See that is where personal preference comes in.

Timmy84 said:

^ Don't mind my other comments, I misread what Shanti wrote.

No worries. I thought so, that's why I didn't quote you directly!

Dave1992 said:

Timmy84 said:

^ Don't mind my other comments, I misread what Shanti wrote.

No worries. I thought so, that's why I didn't quote you directly!

Ppl misead what I say a lot.

Shanti0608 said:

Dave1992 said:

She does. She even owns a little purple vibrator (and calls it "Dave").

I am not a big fan of machinery being involved. I got two hands, imagination and music. See that is where personal preference comes in.

I don't like toys either. Especially when I'm really into the person I'm having sex with. I like it nasty and creative, but with earthy, grounded and "natural" means.

Dave1992 said:

Timmy84 said:

^ Don't mind my other comments, I misread what Shanti wrote.

No worries. I thought so, that's why I didn't quote you directly!

@Shanti, yeah, I had to reread it again. I have that habit with some folks here.

Timmy84 said:

Dave1992 said:

No worries. I thought so, that's why I didn't quote you directly!

@Shanti, yeah, I had to reread it again. I have that habit with some folks here.

I will try to express myself more clearly in the future.

Shanti0608 said:

Dave1992 said:

No worries. I thought so, that's why I didn't quote you directly!

Ppl misead what I say a lot.

What's that? You want us all to lick your vagina?

Dave1992 said:

Shanti0608 said:

Ppl misead what I say a lot.

What's that? You want us all to lick your vagina?

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Dave1992 said:

Shanti0608 said:

I am not a big fan of machinery being involved. I got two hands, imagination and music. See that is where personal preference comes in.

I don't like toys either. Especially when I'm really into the person I'm having sex with. I like it nasty and creative, but with earthy, grounded and "natural" means.

Dave1992 said:

wavesofbliss said:

ive always thought going down on a woman was a way of controling the situation emotionally and otherwise..... i prefer intercourse to the other bcos of the warmth/closeness. its exactlly why some men iknow prefer to going down - they dont want to get emotionally involved. also men only like to hear women cum bcos it makes them feel like theyve done a good job. to a man a woman's orgasm isn't her own its a trophy = bullshit! maybe thats why youre hung-up. if it wasnt an ego thing you'd do what she prefers.

Looks like you wanted to talk to me, not Serious.

i was agreeing with serious on those points.

I am by no means "hung-up" and this is certainly not an "ego thing". That's actually quite a superficial and cold way to look at sex.

whats cold and superficial about it?

I like licking a woman to orgasm, because it is the most comfortable and thrilling way for me to feel happy about making someone I care about feel good.

thats the ego thing im referring to-most men cannot separate ego or performance from sex.

And licking means someone is not emotionally involved while fucking automatically involves you emotionally? Which idiot from which Hollywood soap opera said this kind of bullshit? I think if you are emotionally involved with someone, you simply are, no matter what you do, even if you just walk around the city and talk to each other. If you aren't, you can fuck all you want, you won't feel any emotional involvement.

for alot of people it is more emotional/ for some not, just saying.

I learned a few things regarding logistics...

1. Most people with fake teeth generally do not like to kiss or engage in oral sex. I know this because ALL of my girlfriends with fake teeth that are removeable will not kiss their partners. Crazy.

2. A frustrated person will just pound the hell outta you in because they are using sex as a release of their own tension.... your orgasm be damned.

3. Different twats got different spots that need attention. Vulvas vary in shape and so must the nerve endings have so you men have added work of finding all her erogenous zones and all women are different.

Some women like how it feels when they are hairy, others like sex better when they are bald.

Some women like doggy style, other women hate it.

Some women love anal... some you better not even try it.

So women like to be stirred and stroked slowly, some prefer a good hard pounding.

Some like big dicks, others run from big dicks.

This you must remember when dealing with women, WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT. Women are really "individual creatures" so no one "recipe" for sex is universal. Especially since women tend to change their likes/tastes with each different partner.

She may like oral sex with one guy and not the other....

so if she doesn't like cunnilingus with you, maybe its "you" and not "her". Sowwy.

Dave1992 said:

PANDURITO said:

Obviously she's had a bad experience.

Someone must have told her something nasty bout her coochie's odour or something and now she's traumatized.

I doubt she'd ever smell bad. She's just the kind of women who would even look hot taking a dump in a nasty dead-end street somewhere in Bangkok.

Maybe she's just too proud and afraid this might happen. She's not insecure, but I find that she does want to be perceived as flawless (even though she does not hesitate pointing out her imperfections).

People are very good in acting secure, however, that doesn't mean they have no shame or insecurities.

Because we hear men complaining about pussy's a lot, many girls are afraid he will not like the smell or taste. She can deny that, however that doesn't mean she doesn't fear that. She might be ashamed to tell that she is insecure about that.

wavesofbliss said:

Dave1992 said:

Looks like you wanted to talk to me, not Serious.

i was agreeing with serious on those points.

I am by no means "hung-up" and this is certainly not an "ego thing". That's actually quite a superficial and cold way to look at sex.

whats cold and superficial about it?

I like licking a woman to orgasm, because it is the most comfortable and thrilling way for me to feel happy about making someone I care about feel good.

thats the ego thing im referring to-most men cannot separate ego or performance from sex.

And licking means someone is not emotionally involved while fucking automatically involves you emotionally? Which idiot from which Hollywood soap opera said this kind of bullshit? I think if you are emotionally involved with someone, you simply are, no matter what you do, even if you just walk around the city and talk to each other. If you aren't, you can fuck all you want, you won't feel any emotional involvement.

for alot of people it is more emotional/ for some not, just saying.

I think it's cold and superficial that the joy people get from watching their sexual partner come stems from mere egoism. Plus, it's not just men that like to give pleasure to a woman; there are many women who like the feeling of giving pleasure to a man, regardless of their "ego"...

You're wrong about that "ego thing" you are referring to. Or would you also say parents buy their children toys because they have a problem with their egos? No, it's because it's human to want to make the people you care about happy. It's not an "ego thing", it's an "affection thing".

Well, if you were saying that it is more emotional for some than for other (which you clearly weren't) we'd be back to square one anyway, because of course it is...

paintedlady said:

I learned a few things regarding logistics...

1. Most people with fake teeth generally do not like to kiss or engage in oral sex. I know this because ALL of my girlfriends with fake teeth that are removeable will not kiss their partners. Crazy.

2. A frustrated person will just pound the hell outta you in because they are using sex as a release of their own tension.... your orgasm be damned.

3. Different twats got different spots that need attention. Vulvas vary in shape and so must the nerve endings have so you men have added work of finding all her erogenous zones and all women are different.

Some women like how it feels when they are hairy, others like sex better when they are bald.

Some women like doggy style, other women hate it.

Some women love anal... some you better not even try it.

So women like to be stirred and stroked slowly, some prefer a good hard pounding.

Some like big dicks, others run from big dicks.

This you must remember when dealing with women, WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT. Women are really "individual creatures" so no one "recipe" for sex is universal. Especially since women tend to change their likes/tastes with each different partner.

She may like oral sex with one guy and not the other....

so if she doesn't like cunnilingus with you, maybe its "you" and not "her". Sowwy.

It also depends on the partner. What position is stimulating and pleasant depends on whether he has a small, thin, long, thick, short, straight or curbed dick.

paintedlady said:

I learned a few things regarding logistics...

1. Most people with fake teeth generally do not like to kiss or engage in oral sex. I know this because ALL of my girlfriends with fake teeth that are removeable will not kiss their partners. Crazy.

2. A frustrated person will just pound the hell outta you in because they are using sex as a release of their own tension.... your orgasm be damned.

3. Different twats got different spots that need attention. Vulvas vary in shape and so must the nerve endings have so you men have added work of finding all her erogenous zones and all women are different.

Some women like how it feels when they are hairy, others like sex better when they are bald.

Some women like doggy style, other women hate it.

Some women love anal... some you better not even try it.

So women like to be stirred and stroked slowly, some prefer a good hard pounding.

Some like big dicks, others run from big dicks.

This you must remember when dealing with women, WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT. Women are really "individual creatures" so no one "recipe" for sex is universal. Especially since women tend to change their likes/tastes with each different partner.

She may like oral sex with one guy and not the other....

so if she doesn't like cunnilingus with you, maybe its "you" and not "her". Sowwy.

Is this for real or are you imago in disguise?

No disrespect here, but it really looks like you haven't read one single word from my original post describing my situation.

1. This has nothing to do with fake teeth. Her teeth are real and so is her pussy. My teeth are real too.

2. ...

3. Agreed (and I think we all agreed on that even before you posted it!).

The bold part is full of unnecessary weirdness and lecturing, especially if you've actually read my original post (where I clearly stated how I believed in the uniqueness of women; where I clearly stated that she actually does not like to have passive oral sex with anyone; where I clearly stated that I haven't even touched her yet.

Better learn to read! Sowwy...

dJJ said:

paintedlady said:

...Different twats got different spots that need attention. Vulvas vary in shape and so must the nerve endings have so you men have added work of finding all her erogenous zones and all women are different.

It also depends on the partner. What position is stimulating and pleasant depends on whether he has a small, thin, long, thick, short, straight or curbed dick.

Oh yes! That is very true.

What you can do with some dicks, you will not do with others.

I wonder if she just likes the feel of his dick more than his mouth. I mean it can just be what she plainly said and enjoys his size and shape so much that his mouth is a poor substitute.

wavesofbliss said:

Serious said:

You are all really judgemental . People enjoy different things .

And I also prefer sexual intercourse to being licked...

ive always thought going down on a woman was a way of controling the situation emotionally and otherwise..... i prefer intercourse to the other bcos of the warmth/closeness. its exactlly why some men iknow prefer to going down - they dont want to get emotionally involved. also men only like to hear women cum bcos it makes them feel like theyve done a good job. to a man a woman's orgasm isn't her own its a trophy = bullshit! maybe thats why youre hung-up. if it wasnt an ego thing you'd do what she prefers.

I agree with you.

I love giving head, one of the reasons for it is the control and power it gives me.

Since my marriage and divorce, I have trust issues. I'm not capable of the full emotional surrender to a man as I was before. That is reflected in many little details, one of them being not able to have an orgasm in the company of someone. On my own, I'm fine, however, I think I need to be in long and save relationship before I would able to surrender myself and put myself in the vulnerable position of a man licking me and let myself go and have an orgasm.

I still enjoy sex, and can handle getting penetrated in vulnerable positions. HOwever, I can't handle a man going down on me.

And I really, really miss that.

Anybody up for volunteering licking me on a strict therapeutic bases?

dJJ said:

wavesofbliss said:

ive always thought going down on a woman was a way of controling the situation emotionally and otherwise..... i prefer intercourse to the other bcos of the warmth/closeness. its exactlly why some men iknow prefer to going down - they dont want to get emotionally involved. also men only like to hear women cum bcos it makes them feel like theyve done a good job. to a man a woman's orgasm isn't her own its a trophy = bullshit! maybe thats why youre hung-up. if it wasnt an ego thing you'd do what she prefers.

I agree with you.

I love giving head, one of the reasons for it is the control and power it gives me.

Since my marriage and divorce, I have trust issues. I'm not capable of the full emotional surrender to a man as I was before. That is reflected in many little details, one of them being not able to have an orgasm in the company of someone. On my own, I'm fine, however, I think I need to be in long and save relationship before I would able to surrender myself and put myself in the vulnerable position of a man licking me and let myself go and have an orgasm.

I still enjoy sex, and can handle getting penetrated in vulnerable positions. HOwever, I can't handle a man going down on me.

And I really, really miss that.

Anybody up for volunteering licking me on a strict therapeutic bases?

I also agree that giving oral sex includes a certain safe distance, which might be perceived as additional "control". But would you also agree that people only go down on each other because they have ego issues? :confused:

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[Edited 7/7/12 10:15am]

Dave1992 said:

dJJ said:

I agree with you.

I love giving head, one of the reasons for it is the control and power it gives me.

Since my marriage and divorce, I have trust issues. I'm not capable of the full emotional surrender to a man as I was before. That is reflected in many little details, one of them being not able to have an orgasm in the company of someone. On my own, I'm fine, however, I think I need to be in long and save relationship before I would able to surrender myself and put myself in the vulnerable position of a man licking me and let myself go and have an orgasm.

I still enjoy sex, and can handle getting penetrated in vulnerable positions. HOwever, I can't handle a man going down on me.

And I really, really miss that.

Anybody up for volunteering licking me on a strict therapeutic bases?

I also agree that giving oral sex includes a certain safe distance, which might be perceived as additional "control". But would you also agree that people only go down on each other because they have ego issues? :confused:

.

[Edited 7/7/12 10:15am]

I'm not sure what is meant with ego issues????

I think receiving a lickjob demands being able to allow yourself to surrender. And with that comes feeling vulnerable. If ego issue means fear of becoming to vulnerable and having to trust the other, than yes, I guess that could be an ego issue. However, I prefer the words vulnerable, being in control and surrender.

licking a woman's pussy is embarrassing,

i can only do it during the doggystyle position,

but not during the missionary position the eye contact during the pussy licking is too embarrassing/comical for me...

After reading all these comments about how y'all percieved dick sucking and pussy licking, I've come to this conclusion with some of you:

Y'all weird as fuck.

JoeTyler said:

licking a woman's pussy is embarrassing,

i can only do it during the doggystyle position,

but not during the missionary position the eye contact during the pussy licking is too embarrassing/comical for me...

The eye contact is one of the most important things for me when it comes to being licked or giving blow jobs.

Timmy84 said:

After reading all these comments about how y'all percieved dick sucking and pussy licking, I've come to this conclusion with some of you:

Y'all weird as fuck.

you wouldn't say that if a lady (while licking her pussy in a missionary position) said to you :

"hahaha! you squint when you look at my clit!"

Serious said:

JoeTyler said:

licking a woman's pussy is embarrassing,

i can only do it during the doggystyle position,

but not during the missionary position the eye contact during the pussy licking is too embarrassing/comical for me...

The eye contact is one of the most important things for me when it comes to being licked or giving blow jobs.

I hate it

if i had a fanny Dave i'd let you lick it

JoeTyler said:

Serious said:

The eye contact is one of the most important things for me when it comes to being licked or giving blow jobs.

I hate it

Are you sure you are having sex with people who you consider hot and who you feel attracted too ?
Of course it can also be very hot to have "not personal sex" (even though for me only with somebody I love), but all the time?