imago said:

Cerebus said:

Lindelof is an ass. Not a fan.

I never had an opinion before, but now I do. The script was terrible.

But, even so, Scott is responsible for the tone of the movie---the movie simply wasn't well executed despite the script. I kept thinking about an hour into the film, "shouldn't I be caring about something by now?". But I wasn't. I simply was curious about what was next, but the end is no payoff.

The entire thing felt still born.

I had been waiting for this thing FOREVER. I'm a huge Alien fan. And was NOT expecting an alien film at all. I was simply expecting a smart sci-fi, and I didn't think Prometheus was even that.

But, like I said earlier, it is better than what most studios like to pass off as sci-fi these days, but that says more about the state of hollywood movies than about Scott's accomplishments in Prometheus.

I'm of course a total ALIEN nutjob (I can draw the alien with my eyes closed... literally), but I have always had my doubts about Ridley Scott making this movie. He's a hit or miss on his movies. Legend was big miss, and showed his lapses in judgement on the script can easily happen. I am seeing Prometheus tomorrow night, but it sounds like Ridley should be on your poo list.

ufoclub said:

imago said:

I never had an opinion before, but now I do. The script was terrible.

But, even so, Scott is responsible for the tone of the movie---the movie simply wasn't well executed despite the script. I kept thinking about an hour into the film, "shouldn't I be caring about something by now?". But I wasn't. I simply was curious about what was next, but the end is no payoff.

The entire thing felt still born.

I had been waiting for this thing FOREVER. I'm a huge Alien fan. And was NOT expecting an alien film at all. I was simply expecting a smart sci-fi, and I didn't think Prometheus was even that.

But, like I said earlier, it is better than what most studios like to pass off as sci-fi these days, but that says more about the state of hollywood movies than about Scott's accomplishments in Prometheus.

I'm of course a total ALIEN nutjob (I can draw the alien with my eyes closed... literally), but I have always had my doubts about Ridley Scott making this movie. He's a hit or miss on his movies. Legend was big miss, and showed his lapses in judgement on the script can easily happen. I am seeing Prometheus tomorrow night, but it sounds like Ridley should be on your poo list.

Don't get me wrong. This should never be compared to Alien, but not due to quality. It's simply a different kind of movie. Ridley Scott is not aiming to make a Thriller like Aliens, nor a horror like Alien. This is a sci-fi movie in the vien of an Arthor C. Clarke movie---and that's REALLY refreshing.

But, the horror scenes do exist. And they are just really not ....well, scary.

I'm definately going to see it again though. I just don't want to have bad memories over a movie that I've been waiting for since Alien. Aliens was not the movie I wanted after Alien. I wanted to know more about the space jokey and the origin of the alien. Prometheus demystifies this in some ways (not always satisfyingly), but it leaves you wanting more.

Overall, I would take this over Alien3 and all the subsequent Alien-related movies after Alien and Aliens.

However much I marvelled at Scott's visually stunning work, the script felt rushed and at times unbefitting of his status as a masterful director. There's a slim chance I'd see it again at the theatre , but it's definitely worth owning on DVD/Blu-ray (with bonus material, hopefully).

This is probably another one of those movies for me that will be included in a thread called "What blockbuster movies of 2012 have you never seen?".

Okay, I had zero intention of seeing this movie, since I'm not an Alien fan even though I saw them, I don't do horror movies in general, but I was watching something about it and now it's peaked my interest, more sci-fi than horror. I'm still leary though.

OK, I saw it a second time.

I really liked it the second time.

I saw it. We were laughing during it. It's dumb. Looks great. Horrible script. Horrible character actions worthy of a Friday the 13th movie in logic. Stupidity reigns. I've been interested in Ridley Scott since I knew who he was back in 1979. I was horrified by Legend when I saw it back in 1985 (I think it was 1985), now in 2012, I thought this looked cool, but was horrified at how idiotic the script was. Just like I was horrified by "Someone to Watch Over Me". Ridley Scott sure does throw some big holes in the theory that he is a consistent "master director"!

Jeeez.

And the score was horrible too. It really sounded like a hack Star Trek Next Generation movie in parts. Such a backwards move from the organic and at times experimental music in the first ALIEN, and that was back in the 70's!

How could this have happened?

ufoclub said:

I saw it. We were laughing during it. It's dumb. Looks great. Horrible script. Horrible character actions worthy of a Friday the 13th movie in logic. Stupidity reigns. I've been interested in Ridley Scott since I knew who he was back in 1979. I was horrified by Legend when I saw it back in 1985 (I think it was 1985), now in 2012, I thought this looked cool, but was horrified at how idiotic the script was. Just like I was horrified by "Someone to Watch Over Me". Ridley Scott sure does throw some big holes in the theory that he is a consistent "master director"!

Jeeez.

And the score was horrible too. It really sounded like a hack Star Trek Next Generation movie in parts. Such a backwards move from the organic and at times experimental music in the first ALIEN, and that was back in the 70's!

How could this have happened?

YES, horrible script!

Like when the [SPOILER ALERT] two scientests get offed , one yells, "ohhh... my arm!! It's in my suit, it's in my suit!!! Ohhh, my face!" or some shit like that.

Who does that?

ufoclub said:

I saw it. We were laughing during it. It's dumb. Looks great. Horrible script. Horrible character actions worthy of a Friday the 13th movie in logic. Stupidity reigns. I've been interested in Ridley Scott since I knew who he was back in 1979. I was horrified by Legend when I saw it back in 1985 (I think it was 1985), now in 2012, I thought this looked cool, but was horrified at how idiotic the script was. Just like I was horrified by "Someone to Watch Over Me". Ridley Scott sure does throw some big holes in the theory that he is a consistent "master director"!

Jeeez.

And the score was horrible too. It really sounded like a hack Star Trek Next Generation movie in parts. Such a backwards move from the organic and at times experimental music in the first ALIEN, and that was back in the 70's!

How could this have happened?

YES!!!

Like, when Janek comes in and talks to Shaw before Shaw leaves with the Weylan Crew to meet the surviving Engineer. They played the stupid ass score during that dialogue, diminishing any eeriness to the scene whatsoever. I mean, I was almost expect elves to appear or some shit.

IstenSzek said:

Militant said:

I watched it last night.

Wow. Great movie. Provocative story. Stunning graphics. Great performances.

*SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!**

I'm wondering why the hell the Engineers didn't destroy humanity on any of the occasions when they visited Earth before? We know they visited all the different civilisations from the matching murals found in different places. What were they waiting for? And if the Engineers were all killed by the mutant-worm thing they created as a weapon (except for that one that they wake up) then why didn't more Engineers go to destroy humanity from wherever it is they are originally from? Or at least go to the moon base to wake up that Engineer in stasis?

*SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!*

my guess would be that the engineers watched humanity evolve slowly and didn't find anything

they had to worry about or be displeased about, until their last visit (who knows when or where

that was?).

sometime after their last visit they must have decided to end their 'project' on earth. but what

the reason would be remains unclear. argued might be the way we are destroying the planet or

depleting it's resources and other life forms on it.

or perhaps we were just sent here to start up civilisation, colonisation, cultivate crops and even

domesticate animals up until the point where they could simply take over? in Alien, ripley's cat

is iirc strangely unaffected by the alien, so perhaps only human/engineer based life would be in

danger if the worms or the following alien race would be unleashed upon them?

the reason why no one bothered to wake up the engineer in stasis might be that they figured

the entire moon base was infected and rendered too big a hazard to even try and salvage.

since the 'weapon' they were creating proved to be lethal even to themselves, there would be

no reason to try and get the production back on track since unleashing it upon earth would be

a catastrophy for them as much as it would be for the humans. once all humans would be dead

they would still have to deal with all those 'worms'.

and what exactly is the reason that a worm, after gestation in a host, becomes that 'alien' ?

was it engineered like that? but if so, why? is it simply an unpredicted mutation, something

the engineers did not foresee?

if they wanted to end human life on earth, it would stand to reason that they would do that with

a fixed goal in sight. either the planet and it's resources or just to pull the plug on humans as a

failed project. but it doesn't make sense that they would create a weapon for that which would

infest the planet with hostile, strong and clever aliens which would in turn be able to kill off all

the engineers themselves.

the engineers obviously did not come from that moon originally. it was simply a base. so is the

'alien' in fact the natural end of the evolution of the life on that moon? something that made a

leap through the fusion with the engineer's biological weapon?

anyway. the way i see it is that, whenever and for whatever reasons the engineers abandoned

the 'weapon' they were creating on that moon, doesn't mean that the others on the home planet

have also given up. they might be creating a new weapon somewhere else and killing off life on

earth might still be the plan after all. they just gave up on the moon base.

however, that would be kind of strange considering that the engineer in stasis, after waking up,

immediately tried to set off for earth. that would kind of counter everything i've wondered about

above. lol.

lol. so many questions. and yet still, the movie made me feel completely satisfied

my big question is WHY did all the human civilisations have the star map invitation to THAT MOON????

if the moon wasn't where the engineers originated and merely a place for them to stockpile their biological warfares in readiness for sending out to their "colonies" (I'm assuming it wasn't just earth they populated) why tell the fledgling human civilisations about this place at all? Why did it figure into things this early on in the piece?

The engineer dude in the beginning who destroys himself hari-kari style - was he intending to remove all trace of himself but didn't manage to - accidentally spawning human life as we know it? Or was he (as the ships left earth) manipulating his own dna to create a more adapted for earth version of himself. Why that guy all by himself in such an uncontrolled circumstance if populating the earth was intentional? If all the engineers on the moon were military, perhaps the solo guy in the beginning was a peaceful one, he wore a monkrobe after all. They were also advance in other areas, not just warfare - painting, scultpture etc.

ZombieKitten said:

IstenSzek said:

*SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!*

my guess would be that the engineers watched humanity evolve slowly and didn't find anything

they had to worry about or be displeased about, until their last visit (who knows when or where

that was?).

sometime after their last visit they must have decided to end their 'project' on earth. but what

the reason would be remains unclear. argued might be the way we are destroying the planet or

depleting it's resources and other life forms on it.

or perhaps we were just sent here to start up civilisation, colonisation, cultivate crops and even

domesticate animals up until the point where they could simply take over? in Alien, ripley's cat

is iirc strangely unaffected by the alien, so perhaps only human/engineer based life would be in

danger if the worms or the following alien race would be unleashed upon them?

the reason why no one bothered to wake up the engineer in stasis might be that they figured

the entire moon base was infected and rendered too big a hazard to even try and salvage.

since the 'weapon' they were creating proved to be lethal even to themselves, there would be

no reason to try and get the production back on track since unleashing it upon earth would be

a catastrophy for them as much as it would be for the humans. once all humans would be dead

they would still have to deal with all those 'worms'.

and what exactly is the reason that a worm, after gestation in a host, becomes that 'alien' ?

was it engineered like that? but if so, why? is it simply an unpredicted mutation, something

the engineers did not foresee?

if they wanted to end human life on earth, it would stand to reason that they would do that with

a fixed goal in sight. either the planet and it's resources or just to pull the plug on humans as a

failed project. but it doesn't make sense that they would create a weapon for that which would

infest the planet with hostile, strong and clever aliens which would in turn be able to kill off all

the engineers themselves.

the engineers obviously did not come from that moon originally. it was simply a base. so is the

'alien' in fact the natural end of the evolution of the life on that moon? something that made a

leap through the fusion with the engineer's biological weapon?

anyway. the way i see it is that, whenever and for whatever reasons the engineers abandoned

the 'weapon' they were creating on that moon, doesn't mean that the others on the home planet

have also given up. they might be creating a new weapon somewhere else and killing off life on

earth might still be the plan after all. they just gave up on the moon base.

however, that would be kind of strange considering that the engineer in stasis, after waking up,

immediately tried to set off for earth. that would kind of counter everything i've wondered about

above. lol.

lol. so many questions. and yet still, the movie made me feel completely satisfied

my big question is WHY did all the human civilisations have the star map invitation to THAT MOON????

if the moon wasn't where the engineers originated and merely a place for them to stockpile their biological warfares in readiness for sending out to their "colonies" (I'm assuming it wasn't just earth they populated) why tell the fledgling human civilisations about this place at all? Why did it figure into things this early on in the piece?

The engineer dude in the beginning who destroys himself hari-kari style - was he intending to remove all trace of himself but didn't manage to - accidentally spawning human life as we know it? Or was he (as the ships left earth) manipulating his own dna to create a more adapted for earth version of himself. Why that guy all by himself in such an uncontrolled circumstance if populating the earth was intentional? If all the engineers on the moon were military, perhaps the solo guy in the beginning was a peaceful one, he wore a monkrobe after all. They were also advance in other areas, not just warfare - painting, scultpture etc.

YES!!! YES!!! YES!!!

The first scene with the engineer makes absolutely no sense, as does the scene with that fine ass Idris Alba dude. Nobody self-sacrifices like that. In the alien universe, people were gritty and prime examples of self-preservation. In prometheus, too many seem altruistic and heroic, or plumb insane and stupid. This includes the ingineers.

If the engineers are not stupid enough to place the dirty bilogical stockpiles on near their homeworld, why would they point human beings to it in the form of cave paintings? This is just silly.

And why have engineers hybernating in stasis on this 'stockpile' planet waiting for someone to wake him before carrying out his mission to destroy the Earth. Seriously? Even when the marines were stranded on LV-426 in aliens, they had a reserve protocal to send resquers within 17 days of the 'declared missing' status. The carbon-14 dating on the dead egineer at the doorway reveals he had been there about 2000 years? Seriously?

I don't know, but if I had a huge spaceship carrying deadly and expensive cargoo, I would think it would only take days to send out a rescue party. Even if the planet is declared 'toxic', which is about the only reason I can see that they wouldn't have returned or rescued anyone on it, why didn't they just blow everything to hell and back.

Nothing in the movie makes much sense. It certainly isn't Phantom Menace bad, but it really is a clumbsy movie with a terrible script.

That being said, I did enjoy it the second time I saw it.

Just watched it, was ok.....I guess.

imago said:

ZombieKitten said:

my big question is WHY did all the human civilisations have the star map invitation to THAT MOON????

if the moon wasn't where the engineers originated and merely a place for them to stockpile their biological warfares in readiness for sending out to their "colonies" (I'm assuming it wasn't just earth they populated) why tell the fledgling human civilisations about this place at all? Why did it figure into things this early on in the piece?

The engineer dude in the beginning who destroys himself hari-kari style - was he intending to remove all trace of himself but didn't manage to - accidentally spawning human life as we know it? Or was he (as the ships left earth) manipulating his own dna to create a more adapted for earth version of himself. Why that guy all by himself in such an uncontrolled circumstance if populating the earth was intentional? If all the engineers on the moon were military, perhaps the solo guy in the beginning was a peaceful one, he wore a monkrobe after all. They were also advance in other areas, not just warfare - painting, scultpture etc.

YES!!! YES!!! YES!!!

The first scene with the engineer makes absolutely no sense, as does the scene with that fine ass Idris Alba dude. Nobody self-sacrifices like that. In the alien universe, people were gritty and prime examples of self-preservation. In prometheus, too many seem altruistic and heroic, or plumb insane and stupid. This includes the ingineers.

If the engineers are not stupid enough to place the dirty bilogical stockpiles on near their homeworld, why would they point human beings to it in the form of cave paintings? This is just silly.

And why have engineers hybernating in stasis on this 'stockpile' planet waiting for someone to wake him before carrying out his mission to destroy the Earth. Seriously? Even when the marines were stranded on LV-426 in aliens, they had a reserve protocal to send resquers within 17 days of the 'declared missing' status. The carbon-14 dating on the dead egineer at the doorway reveals he had been there about 2000 years? Seriously?

I don't know, but if I had a huge spaceship carrying deadly and expensive cargoo, I would think it would only take days to send out a rescue party. Even if the planet is declared 'toxic', which is about the only reason I can see that they wouldn't have returned or rescued anyone on it, why didn't they just blow everything to hell and back.

Nothing in the movie makes much sense. It certainly isn't Phantom Menace bad, but it really is a clumbsy movie with a terrible script.

That being said, I did enjoy it the second time I saw it.

During dinner I was wondering if they didn't point all those folks to that moon just to see who turns up first putting to place a prioritisaton of civilisations to get rid of (if they got that advanced they would be a potential threat). It took humans 2 years to get there, but probably the engineers can travel a lot faster, BUT then that would have to take into account that the beings who got there first actually found him and woke him up - none of which, by the way, the humans WERE clever enough to do at all. An android did all the clever stuff.

I thought at the time that he didn't fly off immediately to save his own ass BECAUSE of the deadly cargo - taking it back home would be a dumb idea and perhaps the order had not yet been issued to go to earth to deliver the black goo. Was he waiting to hear from the space jockey in the other ship that had taken off earlier (derelict from Alien). THAT spacejockey must have had a stowaway in his horseshoe.

And was Vickers an android too? (both she and David called Weyland "father")

Did she really die? or will she dust herself off and fix up her escape pod and find her way back home, first battling squiddy of course She would only survive if she wasn't human.

ZombieKitten said:

imago said:

YES!!! YES!!! YES!!!

The first scene with the engineer makes absolutely no sense, as does the scene with that fine ass Idris Alba dude. Nobody self-sacrifices like that. In the alien universe, people were gritty and prime examples of self-preservation. In prometheus, too many seem altruistic and heroic, or plumb insane and stupid. This includes the ingineers.

If the engineers are not stupid enough to place the dirty bilogical stockpiles on near their homeworld, why would they point human beings to it in the form of cave paintings? This is just silly.

And why have engineers hybernating in stasis on this 'stockpile' planet waiting for someone to wake him before carrying out his mission to destroy the Earth. Seriously? Even when the marines were stranded on LV-426 in aliens, they had a reserve protocal to send resquers within 17 days of the 'declared missing' status. The carbon-14 dating on the dead egineer at the doorway reveals he had been there about 2000 years? Seriously?

I don't know, but if I had a huge spaceship carrying deadly and expensive cargoo, I would think it would only take days to send out a rescue party. Even if the planet is declared 'toxic', which is about the only reason I can see that they wouldn't have returned or rescued anyone on it, why didn't they just blow everything to hell and back.

Nothing in the movie makes much sense. It certainly isn't Phantom Menace bad, but it really is a clumbsy movie with a terrible script.

That being said, I did enjoy it the second time I saw it.

During dinner I was wondering if they didn't point all those folks to that moon just to see who turns up first putting to place a prioritisaton of civilisations to get rid of (if they got that advanced they would be a potential threat). It took humans 2 years to get there, but probably the engineers can travel a lot faster, BUT then that would have to take into account that the beings who got there first actually found him and woke him up - none of which, by the way, the humans WERE clever enough to do at all. An android did all the clever stuff.

I thought at the time that he didn't fly off immediately to save his own ass BECAUSE of the deadly cargo - taking it back home would be a dumb idea and perhaps the order had not yet been issued to go to earth to deliver the black goo. Was he waiting to hear from the space jockey in the other ship that had taken off earlier (derelict from Alien). THAT spacejockey must have had a stowaway in his horseshoe.

And was Vickers an android too? (both she and David called Weyland "father")

Did she really die? or will she dust herself off and fix up her escape pod and find her way back home, first battling squiddy of course She would only survive if she wasn't human.

I wondered the same about Vickers, but she's have to have an anotomically correct vagina if the captain was hitting it. Plus why do the pushups at the beginning of the film.

I did find her contempt for David as well, as the fact she called him 'father' to be intriguing though.

And why did Weylan recoil from her the way that he did. My take is that she was some kind of long lasting companion droid who watched him age as she stayed young. But even then, it wouldn't make sense. He was rich..He could find any companion he wanted.

And why did Vickers, Charlie, and Shaw all have nice hairdos. It's totally obvious they're using superior hairproducts (Shaw's hair is even textured), where as the crew of the Nostromo 30 years later had no hair products in their hair and poor Ripley had to wear an Olgivie perm. Loopholes abound.

imago said:

And why did Vickers, Charlie, and Shaw all have nice hairdos. It's totally obvious they're using superior hairproducts (Shaw's hair is even textured), where as the crew of the Nostromo 30 years later had no hair products in their hair and poor Ripley had to wear an Olgivie perm. Loopholes abound.

Remember, the Nostromo's purpose was for hauling mineral ore. Therefore, the crew's hair wasn't as nice probably because they were more of a working class level.

The Prometheus crew (particularly Vickers, Charlie & Shaw) were on more of a scientific mission, to meet the Engineers. So when it came to hair quality, those fuckers actually gave a shit.

Visionnaire said:

Secret shot that reveals answers has leaked from Prometheus extended version:

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Okay I stole that thing from another thread.

ZombieKitten said:

Visionnaire said:

Remember, the Nostromo's purpose was for hauling mineral ore. Therefore, the crew's hair wasn't as nice probably because they were more of a working class level.

The Prometheus crew (particularly Vickers, Charlie & Shaw) were on more of a scientific mission, to meet the Engineers. So when it came to hair quality, those fuckers actually gave a shit.

Well they were more of a more money than sense kind of mission to pander to an old guy with immortality urges. Vanity being the key motive - look awesome at all costs. That said, I think Shaw's hair was horrid. Which is why Vickers couldn't stand her. Vickers needn't have been in a stasis chamber at all if she was an android, but how did she wake up and let herself out - wasn't David in charge of that stuff? What was HIS hair made of? I know I tried to blow dry my dolls hair once and it all melted together into a clump. His hair was able to be peroxided without anything bad happening.

Both you and Visionaire have a point, but I think Shaw's hair looked great!

Especially, the scene where she is sleeping and there's just the white background of the slab she's lying on. It almost looked as if Ridley Scott was giving a nod to the Vidal Sasoon, rest his soul. But, this isn't possible, becuase those scenes were filmed prior to Vidal's passing.

Therefore, Shaw's hair was designed to look salon perfect from the getgo. I mean, even David the android gets a classic 'Ralph Luaren' which is thinly explained by his fascination with Luarence of Olivia. I think Scott simply missed the point--2093 is NOT supposed to echoe any aesthetic leanings of today, anymore than 21-whatever was supposed 1971.

Thank god this wasn't filmed in 1995 because then Shaw probably would have had a damned tongue ring.

As far as Vickers--her hair was really nice. Kind of school girlish, but appropriate for the character. I do see her being petty enough to judge shaw for her quazi-Vidal-Hair-bob look though.

And Zombie has a point about vickers. How did she manage to walk out of the cryo-pod, then do pushups with very little problem. Something is wierd about that.

And yes, what is David's hair made of? I would think that Vicker's hair is android hair too---it's obviously died blonde, and I don't see how it could have retained that color if she was in a cryo-tube for two years. Would the cleaning and perserving gases in the chamber used to keep germs at bay have 'greened' the hair a bit?

Of course, this is the future, I would image nano-technology will ensure that hair stays saloon perfect all the time. But AGAIN...why for the Prometheus and not the Nostromo? Yes, Visionaire has a point of class distinctions, but it should be very cheap in the future. Also, Shaw is a scientist, as is Charlie. I don't see Stephen Hawking appearing at a seminar with an urban/ironic fauxhawk mullet anytime soon.

Ripley's perm hair was kind of cool back in 1979. good thing they didn't do Charlie's Angels winged teased hair.

ZombieKitten said:

my big question is WHY did all the human civilisations have the star map invitation to THAT MOON????

if the moon wasn't where the engineers originated and merely a place for them to stockpile their biological warfares in readiness for sending out to their "colonies" (I'm assuming it wasn't just earth they populated) why tell the fledgling human civilisations about this place at all? Why did it figure into things this early on in the piece?

The engineer dude in the beginning who destroys himself hari-kari style - was he intending to remove all trace of himself but didn't manage to - accidentally spawning human life as we know it? Or was he (as the ships left earth) manipulating his own dna to create a more adapted for earth version of himself. Why that guy all by himself in such an uncontrolled circumstance if populating the earth was intentional? If all the engineers on the moon were military, perhaps the solo guy in the beginning was a peaceful one, he wore a monkrobe after all. They were also advance in other areas, not just warfare - painting, scultpture etc.

Hmmm.I dont believe it was the Engineer portion of their 'DNA memory' that caused them to look to the stars.. I think it was that (biological weapon/black liquid stuff that was in the canisters)..

I thought that that was the same liquid the engineer in the opening scene drank before he disintegrated and was reformed in the water? Might be a big indication that in Ridley's Earth the primeval soup was instigated by an experiment gone wrong = what would the black stuff do if ingested by an engineer?

Which might explain why we were on the cards to die..

ufoclub said:

Ripley's perm hair was kind of cool back in 1979. good thing they didn't do Charlie's Angels winged teased hair.

I find it so adorable that you're a film maker yourself and able to wax cinematic, yet you've chosen to indulge us.

Anyways, another hair problem I found had to do with the engineers.

They're all bald, right? I mean, every inch of their bodies are bald.

But.....

Let's look here. We know it's cold as hell inside the ship. (strange because Cameron's Alien corridors are described as hot and humid). We know that the engineers are very muscular and stocky. And we know their skin is almost transluscent white---this is all indicating, at least to me, that their evolutionary adapatations are towards cold weather climates with weak sunlight.

We also know they share our DNA. So...... Why are they bald? Why aren't the furry and covered from head to toe in hair? Our European friends tend to have ample body hair to protect against the cold. The engineers should at least have chest hair and facial hair.

Ridley Scott REALLY fucked up his hair details in this film. That shit is unforgivable.

I confess that I did not like. I soooo wanted to enjoy this movie and rave about it to friends but I cannot in good conscience recommend anyone pay more than matinee price.

Great special effects - everything looks real.

Hot hunky pasty white alien engineers

Underdeveloped characters - i didn't know the purpose of half of those guys.

Waste of the talents of Charlize and Idris. Could we have at least seen them make out?

Obvious missing footage if you've seen all those viral vids

Travesty that Lance Henriksen couldn't have made a cameo

Fassbender reincarnated the immoral android Ash previously played by Ian Holm but she should have kicked Noomi's ass for authenticity.

Too many unanswered questions even for a sci-fi flick and any suggestion for a sequel is just stupid. Leave mediocre alone. Perfection is futile.

The film is a tad racist given that our engineers had to be pasty white Aryan giant looking muthafuccas - still hot though. I want one for a boyfriend. 9 feet tall! The dick must me be back breaking!

I really wanted to like this but I didnt. I should have seen Madagascar 3.

It was okay. And yes the loop holes exist.

I did connect with the characters Shaw, Holloway, and David.

JOYJOY said:

ZombieKitten said:

my big question is WHY did all the human civilisations have the star map invitation to THAT MOON????

if the moon wasn't where the engineers originated and merely a place for them to stockpile their biological warfares in readiness for sending out to their "colonies" (I'm assuming it wasn't just earth they populated) why tell the fledgling human civilisations about this place at all? Why did it figure into things this early on in the piece?

The engineer dude in the beginning who destroys himself hari-kari style - was he intending to remove all trace of himself but didn't manage to - accidentally spawning human life as we know it? Or was he (as the ships left earth) manipulating his own dna to create a more adapted for earth version of himself. Why that guy all by himself in such an uncontrolled circumstance if populating the earth was intentional? If all the engineers on the moon were military, perhaps the solo guy in the beginning was a peaceful one, he wore a monkrobe after all. They were also advance in other areas, not just warfare - painting, scultpture etc.

Hmmm.I dont believe it was the Engineer portion of their 'DNA memory' that caused them to look to the stars.. I think it was that (biological weapon/black liquid stuff that was in the canisters)..

I thought that that was the same liquid the engineer in the opening scene drank before he disintegrated and was reformed in the water? Might be a big indication that in Ridley's Earth the primeval soup was instigated by an experiment gone wrong = what would the black stuff do if ingested by an engineer?

Which might explain why we were on the cards to die..

I never even considered that

the way I've been thinking is that IF seeding the earth was deliberate, then the engineers came back to check up on us every now and then, being all godly and worshiped by our ancient civilisations. They came down, gave us clever tools like the wheel and fire and what not. Drew the ancient inca landing strips - which were so cleverly duplicated on LV223 to make us think that.

Maybe the black goo IS the stuff used for seeding planets. We are shown how it happened on earth, and perhaps it's not a weapons stockpile but perhaps a raw materials housing area. When an engineer takes it, he breaks down to basic dna which then starts life anew, but adapted to the world being seeded.

imago said:

ufoclub said:

Ripley's perm hair was kind of cool back in 1979. good thing they didn't do Charlie's Angels winged teased hair.

I find it so adorable that you're a film maker yourself and able to wax cinematic, yet you've chosen to indulge us.

Anyways, another hair problem I found had to do with the engineers.

They're all bald, right? I mean, every inch of their bodies are bald.

ha, I'm serious about the hair stuff, it's actually quite an important part of any film, the details of a character's appearance. From Prince's Phylicia Rashad during the Nude Tour to Luke Skywalkers late 70's winged middle part. Oh wait that's mixing up entertainment forms....

Luke should have had the big handle plastic comb in his back pocket that all teenagers had back then.

woah, I just totally misread this headline on CNN: Allen projected to win Senate primary

ZombieKitten said:

JOYJOY said:

Hmmm.I dont believe it was the Engineer portion of their 'DNA memory' that caused them to look to the stars.. I think it was that (biological weapon/black liquid stuff that was in the canisters)..

I thought that that was the same liquid the engineer in the opening scene drank before he disintegrated and was reformed in the water? Might be a big indication that in Ridley's Earth the primeval soup was instigated by an experiment gone wrong = what would the black stuff do if ingested by an engineer?

Which might explain why we were on the cards to die..

I never even considered that

the way I've been thinking is that IF seeding the earth was deliberate, then the engineers came back to check up on us every now and then, being all godly and worshiped by our ancient civilisations. They came down, gave us clever tools like the wheel and fire and what not. Drew the ancient inca landing strips - which were so cleverly duplicated on LV223 to make us think that.

Maybe the black goo IS the stuff used for seeding planets. We are shown how it happened on earth, and perhaps it's not a weapons stockpile but perhaps a raw materials housing area. When an engineer takes it, he breaks down to basic dna which then starts life anew, but adapted to the world being seeded.

that makes sense..

Glad ur back btw.. I've always enjoyed ur posts

Identity said:

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The explorers confront a huge monolithic figure.

looks like seal.