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Roswell UFO Crash Eyewitness: Gerald Anderson

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Reply #1 posted 01/20/12 9:17am

imago

How is it that you can believe this slop but dismiss God?

Isn't this unproven jibberish just another god? confuse

I'm not saying that space aliens don't exist.

But why have you chosen to believe one over the other? confuse

IRanG, I swear to god if your annoying ass comes in here

I'm going to explode.

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Reply #2 posted 01/20/12 9:17am

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ufo eek

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Reply #3 posted 01/20/12 9:24am

Number23

imago said:

IRanG, I swear to god if your annoying ass comes in here

I'm going to explode.

falloff

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Reply #4 posted 01/20/12 9:37am

Graycap23

imago said:

How is it that you can believe this slop but dismiss God?

Isn't this unproven jibberish just another god? confuse

I'm not saying that space aliens don't exist.

But why have you chosen to believe one over the other? confuse

IRanG, I swear to god if your annoying ass comes in here

I'm going to explode.

The Creator exist.................the human version of "God" is made up.

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Reply #5 posted 01/20/12 10:12am

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the exsistence of ufos should be a greater proof

of the exsistence of god, shouldn't it???

i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT...
evilking
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Reply #6 posted 01/20/12 4:19pm

XxAxX

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[Edited 1/20/12 16:31pm]

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Reply #7 posted 01/20/12 4:21pm

XxAxX

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KingBAD said:

the exsistence of ufos should be a greater proof

of the exsistence of god, shouldn't it???

imo, yes.

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Reply #8 posted 01/20/12 4:31pm

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I love all this stuff but deep down i know it's a load of crap. But i still love it... smile

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Reply #9 posted 01/20/12 5:33pm

minneapolisFun
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imago said:

How is it that you can believe this slop but dismiss God?

Isn't this unproven jibberish just another god? confuse

I'm not saying that space aliens don't exist.

But why have you chosen to believe one over the other? confuse

IRanG, I swear to god if your annoying ass comes in here

I'm going to explode.

I'm hoping that those were troll statements (I'm aware of the possibility, but I shall continue regardless). (Or you could just be really stupid, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt).

Belief in alien life goes hand in hand with atheism and evolution.

The size of the universe is beyond human comprehension (as is a potential god), so it is only natural for someone who believes in science over religion to assume that life exists elsewhere.

*I didn't even bother to watch this video, I don't believe it would be possible to travel lightyears across the universe in a primitive spaceship as most 'witnesses' describe.

You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam!
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Reply #10 posted 01/20/12 5:36pm

morningsong

minneapolisFunq said:

imago said:

How is it that you can believe this slop but dismiss God?

Isn't this unproven jibberish just another god? confuse

I'm not saying that space aliens don't exist.

But why have you chosen to believe one over the other? confuse

IRanG, I swear to god if your annoying ass comes in here

I'm going to explode.

I'm hoping that those were troll statements (I'm aware of the possibility, but I shall continue regardless). (Or you could just be really stupid, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt).

Belief in alien life goes hand in hand with atheism and evolution.

The size of the universe is beyond human comprehension (as is a potential god), so it is only natural for someone who believes in science over religion to assume that life exists elsewhere.

*I didn't even bother to watch this video, I don't believe it would be possible to travel lightyears across the universe in a primitive spaceship as most 'witnesses' describe.

It does? Hmm.

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Reply #11 posted 01/20/12 5:40pm

damosuzuki

This probably isn’t necessary since almost nobody is taking this silliness seriously, but I kinda feel obligated to state the following for the record:

The Roswell crash was nothing more than the crash of a military antenna supported by balloons that was misreported in the local newspaper. Nobody even thought of it until the National Enquirer dredged up a wacky old story, didn’t bother to correct the details and managed to concoct a fanciful modern myth thirty-one years after the fact.

You can find the executive summary of the air force’s report here.

http://www.af.mil/informa.../index.asp

The full report doesn’t seem to be on the air force’s home page, but you can find it with a google search if anybody can be bothered to read it. If you want an excellent, concise summary of how the Roswell myth got started and kept gathering steam, Brian Dunning did a summary of it here:

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4079

As for the phoenix lights, they were flares jettisoned by air force aircraft at a higher than usual altitude. There are a multitude of sites that have documented this, though that never fazes the true believers. This video clearly shows the flares disappearing over the mountain range in the distance.

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Reply #12 posted 01/20/12 6:14pm

KingBAD

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minneapolisFunq said:

imago said:

How is it that you can believe this slop but dismiss God?

Isn't this unproven jibberish just another god? confuse

I'm not saying that space aliens don't exist.

But why have you chosen to believe one over the other? confuse

IRanG, I swear to god if your annoying ass comes in here

I'm going to explode.

I'm hoping that those were troll statements (I'm aware of the possibility, but I shall continue regardless). (Or you could just be really stupid, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt).

Belief in alien life goes hand in hand with atheism and evolution.

The size of the universe is beyond human comprehension (as is a potential god), so it is only natural for someone who believes in science over religion to assume that life exists elsewhere.

*I didn't even bother to watch this video, I don't believe it would be possible to travel lightyears across the universe in a primitive spaceship as most 'witnesses' describe.

i have a belife iin a GOD whom is infinite

which would indeed encompus ALL THINGS

and i find it rather constrainin to think

that the only life he could CREATE would be ours.

that i think is a most presumptuous idea...

but then i will expect you now to say

if i am not a christian, i am totaly wrong

about my GOD.

i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT...
evilking
STOP ME IF YOU HEARD THIS BEFORE...
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Reply #13 posted 01/20/12 6:15pm

Graycap23

minneapolisFunq said:

imago said:

How is it that you can believe this slop but dismiss God?

Isn't this unproven jibberish just another god? confuse

I'm not saying that space aliens don't exist.

But why have you chosen to believe one over the other? confuse

IRanG, I swear to god if your annoying ass comes in here

I'm going to explode.

I'm hoping that those were troll statements (I'm aware of the possibility, but I shall continue regardless). (Or you could just be really stupid, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt).

Belief in alien life goes hand in hand with atheism and evolution.

The size of the universe is beyond human comprehension (as is a potential god), so it is only natural for someone who believes in science over religion to assume that life exists elsewhere.

*I didn't even bother to watch this video, I don't believe it would be possible to travel lightyears across the universe in a primitive spaceship as most 'witnesses' describe.

U ever heard of Jump Room Technology?

[Edited 1/21/12 7:56am]

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Reply #14 posted 01/20/12 7:14pm

imago

minneapolisFunq said:

imago said:

How is it that you can believe this slop but dismiss God?

Isn't this unproven jibberish just another god? confuse

I'm not saying that space aliens don't exist.

But why have you chosen to believe one over the other? confuse

IRanG, I swear to god if your annoying ass comes in here

I'm going to explode.

I'm hoping that those were troll statements (I'm aware of the possibility, but I shall continue regardless). (Or you could just be really stupid, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt).

Belief in alien life goes hand in hand with atheism and evolution.

The size of the universe is beyond human comprehension (as is a potential god), so it is only natural for someone who believes in science over religion to assume that life exists elsewhere.

*I didn't even bother to watch this video, I don't believe it would be possible to travel lightyears across the universe in a primitive spaceship as most 'witnesses' describe.

Perhaps you're really stupid? rolleyes

Or just really exceedingly good at looking like an ass when you're trying to sound smart. rolleyes

You've certainly resorted to conjecture to even come up with the possibility that I'm trolling.

And of course, were really so far off the mark that it's not even amusing.

Since when did I ever say this was about the beleif in alien life?

Have people on this board lost the ability to actually read?

I believe in alien life. I think there's a 100% probability life exists out there in boundless, countless

numbers.

This is about the belief that they are here...now...and have visited Roswell....and the government

is covering up the 'evidence'....based on heresay and pseudo facts, and the descriptions of the

supposed witnesses. That's unproven jibberish.

People who have bought off on crop circles, Roswell, and such, do so with religious fervor.

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Reply #15 posted 01/22/12 12:17am

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[img:$uid]http://whatisthepyramid.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/ThiaooubaBlogPic.jpg[/img:$uid]

This book pretty much explains alot about aliens, life on Earth and other planets..take it as fiction or non fiction but....there is a wealth of information on spirituality, other beings and historical Earth facts.

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Reply #16 posted 01/22/12 6:37am

jon1967

ud think some alien fucks would come down n kick it by now .. how long ppl been chirpin i see aliens in the sky tones for? and if they did or at least exist you think the govt would tell anyone it be mass chaos.

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Reply #17 posted 01/22/12 10:41am

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jon1967 said:

ud think some alien fucks would come down n kick it by now .. how long ppl been chirpin i see aliens in the sky tones for? and if they did or at least exist you think the govt would tell anyone it be mass chaos.



Thing is..they have. We in our civilization now are just not "civilized" enough spiritually and mentally to encompass walking amongst other beings let alone other races of human beings well enough.

We also hbave to understand that there are thousands of other types of aliens..not just "greys" among us. The government now is protecting themselves from having to explain knowledge to mass people because...like I said most will not be able to handle. They would be killed off right away and that would be the end of the story. Think of how many positive alien movies that have ever come out on Earth....why would aliens subject themselves to our nature knowing we are just not that smart.
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Reply #18 posted 01/22/12 1:55pm

jon1967

saw bigfoot n loch ness in the surf lineup lil while ago .. nessy rides a tri fin 6 footer n hairy big boy rides a longboard hes sucha hippy.

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Reply #19 posted 01/22/12 3:10pm

KingBAD

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paisleypark4 said:

jon1967 said:

ud think some alien fucks would come down n kick it by now .. how long ppl been chirpin i see aliens in the sky tones for? and if they did or at least exist you think the govt would tell anyone it be mass chaos.

Thing is..they have. We in our civilization now are just not "civilized" enough spiritually and mentally to encompass walking amongst other beings let alone other races of human beings well enough. We also hbave to understand that there are thousands of other types of aliens..not just "greys" among us. The government now is protecting themselves from having to explain knowledge to mass people because...like I said most will not be able to handle. They would be killed off right away and that would be the end of the story. Think of how many positive alien movies that have ever come out on Earth....why would aliens subject themselves to our nature knowing we are just not that smart.

the difference between man/human and mankind/human kind

whom they have tried to kill off throughout history...

i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT...
evilking
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Reply #20 posted 01/22/12 3:56pm

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KingBAD said:

paisleypark4 said:

jon1967 said: Thing is..they have. We in our civilization now are just not "civilized" enough spiritually and mentally to encompass walking amongst other beings let alone other races of human beings well enough. We also hbave to understand that there are thousands of other types of aliens..not just "greys" among us. The government now is protecting themselves from having to explain knowledge to mass people because...like I said most will not be able to handle. They would be killed off right away and that would be the end of the story. Think of how many positive alien movies that have ever come out on Earth....why would aliens subject themselves to our nature knowing we are just not that smart.

the difference between man/human and mankind/human kind

whom they have tried to kill off throughout history...

exactly...we cant just spiritually co-exsist even though we all are part of the same source...that being said why would any high intelligence want to associate themselves with a people who are so much more intrested in material than the spiritual.

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Reply #21 posted 01/22/12 4:06pm

damosuzuki

KingBAD said:

the exsistence of ufos should be a greater proof

of the exsistence of god, shouldn't it???

Why, exactly?

If there was some evidence that showed 'common creation' I could see the case.

Take this paragraph from the talk origins archiver website:

Regardless of the species, the DNA, RNA and proteins used in known living systems all have the same chirality, even though there are at least two chemically equivalent choices of chirality for each of these molecules. For example, RNA has four chiral centers in its ribose ring, which means that it has 16 possible stereoisomers—but only one of these stereoisomers is found in the RNA of known living organisms.

if we found a UFO and on it found an alien (yeesh to all that, but let's play the game) and found that alien had rna and that rna had the same stereoisomer as all living things on earth, well then you might have something. You could argue that we had the most far-fetched case of convergent evolution ever, but at that point you might just have to at least concede that there might be a designer.

But just finding a UFO (not holding my breath) or (more likely, some would say inevitable) one day finding another world with life would just show that the evolutionary principles in effect here will work just as well everywhere else, if there is an opportunity for life to get started and prosper.

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Reply #22 posted 01/22/12 5:57pm

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paisleypark4 said:

KingBAD said:

the difference between man/human and mankind/human kind

whom they have tried to kill off throughout history...

exactly...we cant just spiritually co-exsist even though we all are part of the same source...that being said why would any high intelligence want to associate themselves with a people who are so much more intrested in material than the spiritual.

man is a misguided being

mankind has tried to bring him

back into the fold. the 'higher intelligence'

you speak of in mankind. and they return

to see if the experiment (man) has

developed, OR does it still seek

to distroy all it comes in contact with...

i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT...
evilking
STOP ME IF YOU HEARD THIS BEFORE...
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Reply #23 posted 01/22/12 6:04pm

KingBAD

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damosuzuki said:

KingBAD said:

the exsistence of ufos should be a greater proof

of the exsistence of god, shouldn't it???

Why, exactly?

If there was some evidence that showed 'common creation' I could see the case.

Take this paragraph from the talk origins archiver website:

Regardless of the species, the DNA, RNA and proteins used in known living systems all have the same chirality, even though there are at least two chemically equivalent choices of chirality for each of these molecules. For example, RNA has four chiral centers in its ribose ring, which means that it has 16 possible stereoisomers—but only one of these stereoisomers is found in the RNA of known living organisms.

if we found a UFO and on it found an alien (yeesh to all that, but let's play the game) and found that alien had rna and that rna had the same stereoisomer as all living things on earth, well then you might have something. You could argue that we had the most far-fetched case of convergent evolution ever, but at that point you might just have to at least concede that there might be a designer.

But just finding a UFO (not holding my breath) or (more likely, some would say inevitable) one day finding another world with life would just show that the evolutionary principles in effect here will work just as well everywhere else, if there is an opportunity for life to get started and prosper.

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who is to say the 'alien' that was found wasn't

dna compatible with man. does that mean it is the ONLY other life form

and again, is GOD so limited as to not to be able

to incompus ALL, EVERY, ANY life form, from any place.

is GOD not the creater of the smallest to the largest of

ALL THINGS even if GOD is nothing more that that which

created the possibilities that came to play in the creation

of the universe as we know it???

i am not a scientist, nor a preacher.

i am KING BAD!!!
you are NOT...
evilking
STOP ME IF YOU HEARD THIS BEFORE...
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Reply #24 posted 01/22/12 7:04pm

babynoz

This thread reminds me of one of my favorite songs...the UFO Phil song...

My favorite alien story is Close Encounters Of The Third Kind but I kinda think that real life aliens wouldn't be bothered with dumb assed humans unless they were hungry, eek

My fondest wish is that some aliens like Klaatu and Gort show up...that would be great!

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #25 posted 01/22/12 8:26pm

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paisleypark4 said:

jon1967 said:

ud think some alien fucks would come down n kick it by now .. how long ppl been chirpin i see aliens in the sky tones for? and if they did or at least exist you think the govt would tell anyone it be mass chaos.

Thing is..they have. We in our civilization now are just not "civilized" enough spiritually and mentally to encompass walking amongst other beings let alone other races of human beings well enough. We also hbave to understand that there are thousands of other types of aliens..not just "greys" among us. The government now is protecting themselves from having to explain knowledge to mass people because...like I said most will not be able to handle. They would be killed off right away and that would be the end of the story. Think of how many positive alien movies that have ever come out on Earth....why would aliens subject themselves to our nature knowing we are just not that smart.

Wow, I had no idea. Thanks for letting us know this "fact". It's amazing.

WOOOAH. Somebody just pulled my sceptical handbrake. So how come you have all this info that the government is hiding from us all? Org note me if you prefer with how you have this top secret info and what evidence you have for it. I'd hate you to get "terminated" on my account.

You are right about one thing, we are just not civilised enough mentally. Most of us don't exercise critical thinking and logic enough.

P.S Give my regards to David Icke, he should have stuck to being a goalkeeper and he was crap at that anyway.

If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
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Reply #26 posted 01/22/12 8:51pm

babynoz

Nobody liked my UFO Phil song???sad

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #27 posted 01/23/12 4:08am

damosuzuki

lust said:

paisleypark4 said:

jon1967 said: Thing is..they have. We in our civilization now are just not "civilized" enough spiritually and mentally to encompass walking amongst other beings let alone other races of human beings well enough. We also hbave to understand that there are thousands of other types of aliens..not just "greys" among us. The government now is protecting themselves from having to explain knowledge to mass people because...like I said most will not be able to handle. They would be killed off right away and that would be the end of the story. Think of how many positive alien movies that have ever come out on Earth....why would aliens subject themselves to our nature knowing we are just not that smart.

Wow, I had no idea. Thanks for letting us know this "fact". It's amazing.

WOOOAH. Somebody just pulled my sceptical handbrake. So how come you have all this info that the government is hiding from us all? Org note me if you prefer with how you have this top secret info and what evidence you have for it. I'd hate you to get "terminated" on my account.

You are right about one thing, we are just not civilised enough mentally. Most of us don't exercise critical thinking and logic enough.

P.S Give my regards to David Icke, he should have stuck to being a goalkeeper and he was crap at that anyway.

I’d like to be cc’d on that note! For some reason, every time I've been exposed to the newest, greatest UFO evidence it turns out to be absolutely pathetic, but I'm sure Paisley wouldn't say something like that without being able to back it up.

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I spent the weekend reading Richard Wiseman’s excellent book ‘Paranormality – Why We Believe the Impossible’ and, while he doesn’t address UFO belief specifically, I couldn’t help but think of this thread while reading and how some of the posters might benefit from this book or any exposure to critical thinking. For most true believers that’s a faint hope, undoubtedly. It’s almost certainly ingrained in our nature to disregard evidence when it doesn’t support our beliefs – as Churchill said, “Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on.”

But we can move people in increments, and we can try to change the broader culture to one that values science and critical thinking and looks at woolly-headed irrationality with scorn.

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Reply #28 posted 01/23/12 5:43am

XxAxX

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babynoz said:

Nobody liked my UFO Phil song???sad

i did nod hug woot!

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Reply #29 posted 01/23/12 6:42am

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lust said:

paisleypark4 said:

jon1967 said: Thing is..they have. We in our civilization now are just not "civilized" enough spiritually and mentally to encompass walking amongst other beings let alone other races of human beings well enough. We also hbave to understand that there are thousands of other types of aliens..not just "greys" among us. The government now is protecting themselves from having to explain knowledge to mass people because...like I said most will not be able to handle. They would be killed off right away and that would be the end of the story. Think of how many positive alien movies that have ever come out on Earth....why would aliens subject themselves to our nature knowing we are just not that smart.

Wow, I had no idea. Thanks for letting us know this "fact". It's amazing.

WOOOAH. Somebody just pulled my sceptical handbrake. So how come you have all this info that the government is hiding from us all? Org note me if you prefer with how you have this top secret info and what evidence you have for it. I'd hate you to get "terminated" on my account.

You are right about one thing, we are just not civilised enough mentally. Most of us don't exercise critical thinking and logic enough.

P.S Give my regards to David Icke, he should have stuck to being a goalkeeper and he was crap at that anyway.

Sorry I am not sarcastic and it does nothing for me. confused

Take what I say as fiction or non fiction...but I have read and read quite a bit already...and still have tons more to go.

The aliens that were described in Betty & Barney Hill's abduction were very far from the alien description from the Travis Walton experience (which when Hollywood got hold of the story they turned it negative and completely different from the actual plot). Michael Desmarquet (who wrote Thiaoouba) comes close in the description of what Travis Walton desribed as aliens (closely looking like us but taller and more..bland of an appearance)....and even in the book described how most races were from other planets and how we got here. Not to say that it is true but does prove some ..otherwise very curious answers about the Earth.

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