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vainandy said: And it most importantly takes pride in the openly gay men that are sleeping with these type of men. Why would any self respecting gay man sleep with and put up with the type of man that says "I ain't no fag but I do like getting my dick sucked" or "a mouth is mouth no matter who's mouth it is, a man or a woman's, it all feels the same but that don't mean that I'm a fag just because I let a fucking faggot suck my dick". And why do we give a man the type of day when we have previously seen that man with a group of other men bashing gay men in public but then we later see him circling the club in his car looking for one of us to suck his dick. Why do we put up with this shit but many of us do and it's not right at all.
Yeah, wouldn't we all just love to engage in any pleasure we want and never have to feel the pain of prejudice and discrimination that goes along with it. I'd be fine with the motherfuckers if they were just strictly in the closet but I be damned if I'm going to put up with the type of motherfucker that will bash us and we, like damn fools, are giving him pleasure. I be damn! If anything, I'd like to give the son of a bitch some pain for his actions, not some damn pleasure. 
For those men who's attitude is...."Just because I let a damn faggot suck my dick don't mean that I'm a fag myself. I love me some pussy"....I ask them this question all the damn time..... "I notice that you brag about all the women you sleep with to all your so-called straight male friends. If getting your dick sucked by another guy doesn't make you gay just because you like some pussy, then why aren't you bragging on all your male conquests also? Why? Because you know that those men will call you a faggot just like they call me one but the difference is, I'm strong enough to handle it and you aren't." That usually shuts their mouth real quick plus I used to let them know that if I ever see them somewhere in public, I'll bust their ass out quicker than a heartbeat and we'll just see if the straight world thinks they are straight after I get through telling about them getting their dick sucked. It's all about pride and not letting anyone think they are better than you because a gay man is equal and isn't beneath no one. . . . [Edited 6/11/09 12:41pm] I know exactly what you mean - the cats who try to pull that "I'm only a little bit gay" shit. Please. That's like a woman saying she's only a little bit pregnant. You either are or you aren't, so stop the bullshit. You know what's truly disgusting? These in-the-closet politicians who vote against pro gay legislation. That shit affects people's lives - shameful. |
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I will answer this question with a question - why does it matter? Yes, I know what that the majority of the world's religions say that it's wrong, but I think it's wrong for a religion to call any sexual practice between consenting adults wrong or immoral.
We need only place as much emphasis on this subject as is needed to make the person questioning their sexuality comfortable with doing so. It's between me and my God, and since no one else will know what my relationship with God is, no one else can tell me what they think my God is telling me. | |
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johnart said: MsMisha319 said: Yes, there is a double standard and I'm ok with that
Though I have never had this experience, I wouldn't consider a female who has a sexual encounter with another female a lesbian. I just wouldn't. Now, if she continuously had sexual encounters with women and began to prefer it, then yes, but just one...no.... If a dude has a voluntary sexual encounter with another dude, he is GAY. Period. End of story. There is no going back from it, in my opinion. If I was involved with a guy and he admitted to me that he had a sexual encounter with a another guy, I would dump him ASAP!!! ASAP!!!!! Smooches;) You know I was gonna get on Meow and Cinnie for gettin on your case, but then I went back and read this post. 
So the Paynus is mightier than the Poon I guess? Sweet, but I don't need anyone to take up for me  If people can't be adults and respect someone's opinion, then they should grow up 
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sextonseven said: MsMisha319 said: Here is a better question, since you all are so determined to get into my head like I have some sort of problem...WHY DO YOU FEEL THE WAY THAT YOU FEEL? You don't feel that a one time sexual encounter with the same sex makes a person gay?  Why do YOU feel that way? Because I don't get thatJust because you tried something once doesn't mean you prefer that thing more than anything else. How is that logical? It's my logic as far as this topic is concerned  I brought this up to people at work and they couldn't believe the ongoing debate. They assumed, as I did, that most of you who really have a problem with my opinion, are gay or bi Maybe I've offended some of you, but oh well. There are plenty of people who feel much worse than I do. Like I stated before, I don't have a problem with gays or lesbians; However, I feel that you should own up to who you are. Why be scared and say "Well, it was only one time  That doesn't make me gay " Are you afraid of society?
Saying that a one time encounter doesn't count is like saying a 40 year old man that rapes a 5 year old ISN'T a sex offender, because he was drunk and he only did it that one time Of course he's not a sex offender, he was just curious Give me a break. If you're a dude and you like it in the ass, own it! Don't try to cover those feelings by marrying a woman and having children. You are still gay deep down.
I guess some of you are just trying to justify your own lives and situations.... Just my 
Carry on 
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This thread is fucking hysterical.
Once again the straights know more than the gays do about themselves. | |
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I don't really feel that a "real" straight guy has to be sooooo against any kind of encounter with another guy I realise many straight guys are exactly like that, and I am worried that's out of fear lest anyone thinking they are gay   | |
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reneGade20 said: In my one time experience, it was a confluence of an innate attraction to the guy (and he to me), weird and trippy Halloween party, and just enough alcohol to spice things up, but not enough to completely be used as an excuse..neither of us was going through anything traumatic personally or romantically (I've heard that used by guys as an excuse)...for taht moment in time, it was just right...didn't all of sudden illuminate the closet...nor did it cause our friendship any hardship (no pun intended)...life continued and so it was... You are the motherfuckin' man.  | |
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MsMisha319 said: sextonseven said: Just because you tried something once doesn't mean you prefer that thing more than anything else. How is that logical? It's my logic as far as this topic is concerned I brought this up to people at work and they couldn't believe the ongoing debate. They assumed, as I did, that most of you who really have a problem with my opinion, are gay or bi Maybe I've offended some of you, but oh well. There are plenty of people who feel much worse than I do. Like I stated before, I don't have a problem with gays or lesbians; However, I feel that you should own up to who you are. Why be scared and say "Well, it was only one time That doesn't make me gay " Are you afraid of society?
Saying that a one time encounter doesn't count is like saying a 40 year old man that rapes a 5 year old ISN'T a sex offender, because he was drunk and he only did it that one time Of course he's not a sex offender, he was just curious Give me a break. If you're a dude and you like it in the ass, own it! Don't try to cover those feelings by marrying a woman and having children. You are still gay deep down.
I guess some of you are just trying to justify your own lives and situations.... Just my
Carry on
Smooches;) Thank God I don't feel I need to justify myself to any damn body. I know men who are sexually free that like assplay and all types of stuff. They can't be free to be who they are because society wants to put a label on them. I don't know: maybe if some of the black community and society as a whole wouldn't make being gay out to be this horrible thing, so many men would not feel the need to be in the closet.  for the day when people mind their own fucking business.
The comparison to a pedophile is just jacked up. [Edited 6/15/09 17:21pm] | |
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ZombieKitten said: I don't really feel that a "real" straight guy has to be sooooo against any kind of encounter with another guy
I realise many straight guys are exactly like that, and I am worried that's out of fear lest anyone thinking they are gay  Seriously ? Well, maybe not any type of encounter, but definitely a sexual encounter. If I were a straight guy, I would be offended if a gay guy come on to me
But, I agree with Vendetta1, people should mind their own business. The only reason why I even gave my opinion is because I was asked...we all were. I could care less what people do in their bedrooms, but if my opinion is asked about it, I will give it 
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MsMisha319 said: ZombieKitten said: I don't really feel that a "real" straight guy has to be sooooo against any kind of encounter with another guy
I realise many straight guys are exactly like that, and I am worried that's out of fear lest anyone thinking they are gay Seriously ? Well, maybe not any type of encounter, but definitely a sexual encounter. If I were a straight guy, I would be offended if a gay guy come on to me
But, I agree with Vendetta1, people should mind their own business. The only reason why I even gave my opinion is because I was asked...we all were. I could care less what people do in their bedrooms, but if my opinion is asked about it, I will give it
Smooches;) Smooches;) wow! My husband, mr straight as an arrow ( ), has told me that he is not afraid of a guy coming on to him, he says he finds that flattering he isn't afraid someone might think HE is gay just because a gay man finds him attractive, in his opinion, EVERYONE should find him attractive | |
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ZombieKitten said: MsMisha319 said: Seriously ? Well, maybe not any type of encounter, but definitely a sexual encounter. If I were a straight guy, I would be offended if a gay guy come on to me
But, I agree with Vendetta1, people should mind their own business. The only reason why I even gave my opinion is because I was asked...we all were. I could care less what people do in their bedrooms, but if my opinion is asked about it, I will give it
Smooches;) Smooches;) wow! My husband, mr straight as an arrow ( ), has told me that he is not afraid of a guy coming on to him, he says he finds that flattering he isn't afraid someone might think HE is gay just because a gay man finds him attractive, in his opinion, EVERYONE should find him attractive | |
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Vendetta1 said: ZombieKitten said: wow! My husband, mr straight as an arrow ( ), has told me that he is not afraid of a guy coming on to him, he says he finds that flattering he isn't afraid someone might think HE is gay just because a gay man finds him attractive, in his opinion, EVERYONE should find him attractive I think a self-confident, self-assured man will not have any issues with this. | |
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ZombieKitten said: Vendetta1 said: My best friend is straight as an arrow but gets hit on all the time. He doesn't get upset or offended by it.
I think a self-confident, self-assured man will not have any issues with this. I agree. | |
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ZombieKitten said: MsMisha319 said: Seriously ? Well, maybe not any type of encounter, but definitely a sexual encounter. If I were a straight guy, I would be offended if a gay guy come on to me
But, I agree with Vendetta1, people should mind their own business. The only reason why I even gave my opinion is because I was asked...we all were. I could care less what people do in their bedrooms, but if my opinion is asked about it, I will give it
Smooches;) Smooches;) wow! My husband, mr straight as an arrow ( ), has told me that he is not afraid of a guy coming on to him, he says he finds that flattering he isn't afraid someone might think HE is gay just because a gay man finds him attractive, in his opinion, EVERYONE should find him attractive That's a great attitude to have!
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MsMisha319 said: sextonseven said: Just because you tried something once doesn't mean you prefer that thing more than anything else. How is that logical? It's my logic as far as this topic is concerned I brought this up to people at work and they couldn't believe the ongoing debate. They assumed, as I did, that most of you who really have a problem with my opinion, are gay or bi Maybe I've offended some of you, but oh well. There are plenty of people who feel much worse than I do. Like I stated before, I don't have a problem with gays or lesbians; However, I feel that you should own up to who you are. Why be scared and say "Well, it was only one time That doesn't make me gay " Are you afraid of society?
Saying that a one time encounter doesn't count is like saying a 40 year old man that rapes a 5 year old ISN'T a sex offender, because he was drunk and he only did it that one time Of course he's not a sex offender, he was just curious Give me a break. If you're a dude and you like it in the ass, own it! Don't try to cover those feelings by marrying a woman and having children. You are still gay deep down.
I guess some of you are just trying to justify your own lives and situations.... Just my
Carry on
Smooches;) 1. Same sex encounters don't land you in jail so why the pedophile comparisons? 2. Not all gay men like anal sex so stop with that stereotype. 3. If a same sex encounter occurs why do you assume that both parties involved liked it? | |
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ZombieKitten said: I don't really feel that a "real" straight guy has to be sooooo against any kind of encounter with another guy
I realise many straight guys are exactly like that, and I am worried that's out of fear lest anyone thinking they are gay i'll have to agree with this tho i am deathly afraid someone here might think im gay because of it... lets just say: "i dont get down wit that type of shit, but as long as you dont come over here wit all that then its cool" | |
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ZombieKitten said: MsMisha319 said: Seriously ? Well, maybe not any type of encounter, but definitely a sexual encounter. If I were a straight guy, I would be offended if a gay guy come on to me
But, I agree with Vendetta1, people should mind their own business. The only reason why I even gave my opinion is because I was asked...we all were. I could care less what people do in their bedrooms, but if my opinion is asked about it, I will give it
Smooches;) Smooches;) wow! My husband, mr straight as an arrow ( ), has told me that he is not afraid of a guy coming on to him, he says he finds that flattering he isn't afraid someone might think HE is gay just because a gay man finds him attractive, in his opinion, EVERYONE should find him attractive i had a big brother type in high-school (who is gay) and i when i asked him why another friend kept coming onto me instead of his gay friends- he said: "think about it dummy, gay men want the same type of man a woman wants..." made alot of sense from that point on...tho to be fair, some ultra-fem guys can be too much for me, but i've seen gay men declare others to be too gay as well so.. | |
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SirPsycho said: i'll have to agree with this tho i am deathly afraid someone here might think im gay because of it... lets just say: "i dont get down wit that type of shit, but as long as you dont come over here wit all that then its cool" and thats all well and good in the hood. sidenote also funny when alot of ugly ass str8 guys think any gay dude is gonna hit on them its ROFL | |
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Christopher said: SirPsycho said: i'll have to agree with this tho i am deathly afraid someone here might think im gay because of it... lets just say: "i dont get down wit that type of shit, but as long as you dont come over here wit all that then its cool" and thats all well and good in the hood. sidenote also funny when alot of ugly ass str8 guys think any gay dude is gonna hit on them its ROFL | |
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SirPsycho said: Christopher said: and thats all well and good in the hood. sidenote also funny when alot of ugly ass str8 guys think any gay dude is gonna hit on them its ROFL they're always the ones lol. | |
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Christopher said: SirPsycho said: they're always the ones lol. as if we don't have standards 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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sextonseven said: MsMisha319 said: It's my logic as far as this topic is concerned I brought this up to people at work and they couldn't believe the ongoing debate. They assumed, as I did, that most of you who really have a problem with my opinion, are gay or bi Maybe I've offended some of you, but oh well. There are plenty of people who feel much worse than I do. Like I stated before, I don't have a problem with gays or lesbians; However, I feel that you should own up to who you are. Why be scared and say "Well, it was only one time That doesn't make me gay " Are you afraid of society?
Saying that a one time encounter doesn't count is like saying a 40 year old man that rapes a 5 year old ISN'T a sex offender, because he was drunk and he only did it that one time Of course he's not a sex offender, he was just curious Give me a break. If you're a dude and you like it in the ass, own it! Don't try to cover those feelings by marrying a woman and having children. You are still gay deep down.
I guess some of you are just trying to justify your own lives and situations.... Just my
Carry on
Smooches;) 1. Same sex encounters don't land you in jail so why the pedophile comparisons? 2. Not all gay men like anal sex so stop with that stereotype. 3. If a same sex encounter occurs why do you assume that both parties involved liked it? 1.I'm not comparing gays to pedophiles, but I'm pointing out the fact that someone stated that a "one-time" sexual encounter doesn't make a person gay or straight....but a "one-time" sexual encounter between a man and a child makes that man a sex offender The "one-time" rule doesn't apply here, huh? Interesting
2. I didn't say that all men liked anal I believe I typed something about sucking dick, maybe 2 pages ago
3. Maybe they didn't like it I've had sexual experiences that were not great, but I didn't stop having sex with men altogether; I just didn't have sex with that person anymore I don't think that if a guy has truly decided to go through with having a same sex experience, and it turns out to be a not so great experience, that he would say "Oh well, that urge is gone" I think he would try it again, but with different guy. I could be wrong 
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'Does A One-Time Sexual Encounter With The Same Sex Make U Gay?'
Only if it's done right! | |
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BriaVelveeta said: 'Does A One-Time Sexual Encounter With The Same Sex Make U Gay?'
Only if it's done right! Probably the best answer of all 7 pages
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SirPsycho said: ZombieKitten said: I don't really feel that a "real" straight guy has to be sooooo against any kind of encounter with another guy
I realise many straight guys are exactly like that, and I am worried that's out of fear lest anyone thinking they are gay i'll have to agree with this tho i am deathly afraid someone here might think im gay because of it... lets just say: "i dont get down wit that type of shit, but as long as you dont come over here wit all that then its cool" but if you are attractive you can't help it!  of course guys AND girls are gonna find you hot! Nothing to fear people! | |
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MsMisha319 said: sextonseven said: Just because you tried something once doesn't mean you prefer that thing more than anything else. How is that logical? It's my logic as far as this topic is concerned I brought this up to people at work and they couldn't believe the ongoing debate. They assumed, as I did, that most of you who really have a problem with my opinion, are gay or bi Maybe I've offended some of you, but oh well. There are plenty of people who feel much worse than I do. Like I stated before, I don't have a problem with gays or lesbians; However, I feel that you should own up to who you are. Why be scared and say "Well, it was only one time That doesn't make me gay " Are you afraid of society?
Saying that a one time encounter doesn't count is like saying a 40 year old man that rapes a 5 year old ISN'T a sex offender, because he was drunk and he only did it that one time Of course he's not a sex offender, he was just curious Give me a break. If you're a dude and you like it in the ass, own it! Don't try to cover those feelings by marrying a woman and having children. You are still gay deep down.
I guess some of you are just trying to justify your own lives and situations.... Just my
Carry on
Smooches;) Why would they assume that??? That's an idiotic assumption to make. I know plenty of straight people who would disagree with you and gays who would agree with you on this. I personally have no issue with your answer to this topic being opposite of mine. Even gay opinions differ on this subject. What I don't get and where you lost me is why it applies to a man and not a woman.That dick in the ass puts some sort of STAMP on a dude for life (regardless of what his true preferences are) but pussy is something you can pick up and drop whenever with no labels or assumptions. That just makes no kind of sense. It's not a double standard. It's irrational. | |
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vainandy said: Unless you are raped, it doesn't make you gay but it does at least make you bisexual. A gay man can't be gay all by himself because it takes two to tango. And it's impossible for a gay man to sleep with a 100% straight man because a 100% straight man would never let another man (unless it's the doctor) so much as touch his dick, let alone suck it.
Until we let these men that fool with us know that they are at least bisexual and refuse to have any sexual contact with them whatsoever unless they admit it to themselves, we will never have equal rights and will always be bashed because these type of hypocritical men are the main ones bashing us much moreso than straight men.  i don't think it will get any clearer than this post. | |
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uPtoWnNY said: vainandy said: And it most importantly takes pride in the openly gay men that are sleeping with these type of men. Why would any self respecting gay man sleep with and put up with the type of man that says "I ain't no fag but I do like getting my dick sucked" or "a mouth is mouth no matter who's mouth it is, a man or a woman's, it all feels the same but that don't mean that I'm a fag just because I let a fucking faggot suck my dick". And why do we give a man the type of day when we have previously seen that man with a group of other men bashing gay men in public but then we later see him circling the club in his car looking for one of us to suck his dick. Why do we put up with this shit but many of us do and it's not right at all.
Yeah, wouldn't we all just love to engage in any pleasure we want and never have to feel the pain of prejudice and discrimination that goes along with it. I'd be fine with the motherfuckers if they were just strictly in the closet but I be damned if I'm going to put up with the type of motherfucker that will bash us and we, like damn fools, are giving him pleasure. I be damn! If anything, I'd like to give the son of a bitch some pain for his actions, not some damn pleasure.
For those men who's attitude is...."Just because I let a damn faggot suck my dick don't mean that I'm a fag myself. I love me some pussy"....I ask them this question all the damn time..... "I notice that you brag about all the women you sleep with to all your so-called straight male friends. If getting your dick sucked by another guy doesn't make you gay just because you like some pussy, then why aren't you bragging on all your male conquests also? Why? Because you know that those men will call you a faggot just like they call me one but the difference is, I'm strong enough to handle it and you aren't." That usually shuts their mouth real quick plus I used to let them know that if I ever see them somewhere in public, I'll bust their ass out quicker than a heartbeat and we'll just see if the straight world thinks they are straight after I get through telling about them getting their dick sucked. It's all about pride and not letting anyone think they are better than you because a gay man is equal and isn't beneath no one. . . . [Edited 6/11/09 12:41pm] I know exactly what you mean - the cats who try to pull that "I'm only a little bit gay" shit. Please. That's like a woman saying she's only a little bit pregnant. You either are or you aren't, so stop the bullshit. You know what's truly disgusting? These in-the-closet politicians who vote against pro gay legislation. That shit affects people's lives - shameful. okay it really doesn't get any clearer than these posts. | |
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no matter how progressive society gets you can't do anything about somebody's inner hyporcrite. there will always be guys and gals who want to play both sides of the fence but only root for one team. | |
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MsMisha319 said: 1.I'm not comparing gays to pedophiles, but I'm pointing out the fact that someone stated that a "one-time" sexual encounter doesn't make a person gay or straight....but a "one-time" sexual encounter between a man and a child makes that man a sex offender
The "one-time" rule doesn't apply here, huh? Interesting As wack as your comparison to a sex offender is... you yourself said a "one-time" encounter would not count if it were girl-on-girl.
And I'm sure this was a really open topic to get honest opinions about AT WORK You got the answer you were looking for because you were AT WORK. | |
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