SUPRMAN said: ZombieKitten said: that is really shitty you could try Australia! we come in all kinds here And you'll love the way they treat the indigenous inhabitants of the continent. tragically if you live in any of the capital cities, you will probably not even see any | |
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damn. Being a white girl living in a pretty much white area, i have never experienced anything like this, Kim. but being a thinking and compassionate human being - it makes me downright ill.
Why are people so intent on hate and division and fucked-up antiquated ways of thinking??? Miss Kim, i don't know you, but i wish you and your family the very best. May peace and safety be all around you. Would u run 2 me if somebody hurt u, even if that somebody was me? | |
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LADYDYE said: Why are people so intent on hate and division and fucked-up antiquated ways of thinking???
Because it gives them a false sense of superiority('us' vs. 'them'). | |
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kimrachell said: GetAwayFromMe said: Yup, same difference. I lived in Rocklin for a while, and I've lived in the Auburn/Colfax area. Beautiful, beautiful country, so close to Tahoe, but, damn if those people aren't stuck in the 1800s, huh? The further you go into the foothills, the more backward they become, toothless and all. yes, you're 100% right, no one seems to have teeth here either! how funny! yeah, it's beautiful here, and we used to love how close it was to drive up to tahoe. but they are really stuck in the 1800s! these old gold mining towns...hehe! Good luck in finding a place, it sounds like a hell hole. | |
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move to Hawaii. | |
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kpowers said: move to Hawaii.
I've always heard that native Hawaiians don't like white people. Is that just a big myth? Or is there any truth to it? | |
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I'm so sorry you're going through this right now. I would move too. It's a new year, maybe a new home will be just what you need to start it off right. Good luck! Shake it til ya make it | |
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hokie said: kpowers said: move to Hawaii.
I've always heard that native Hawaiians don't like white people. Is that just a big myth? Or is there any truth to it? As long as you show respect for the people and the land they won't have a problem with you. | |
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uPtoWnNY said: LADYDYE said: Why are people so intent on hate and division and fucked-up antiquated ways of thinking???
Because it gives them a false sense of superiority('us' vs. 'them'). but it must be a deep-rooted insecurity that makes them need to feel superiority over someone else? | |
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hokie said: kpowers said: move to Hawaii.
I've always heard that native Hawaiians don't like white people. Is that just a big myth? Or is there any truth to it? It's true, they don't like white people. My best friend is Hawaiian. | |
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kpowers said: hokie said: I've always heard that native Hawaiians don't like white people. Is that just a big myth? Or is there any truth to it? As long as you show respect for the people and the land they won't have a problem with you. What do you mean respect for the land? Like being environmentally conscious? | |
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hokie said: kpowers said: As long as you show respect for the people and the land they won't have a problem with you. What do you mean respect for the land? Like being environmentally conscious? That and respecting burial grounds as well | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: The House of Rachelle work work work work *POW POW* work work work work . [Edited 1/30/09 11:11am] Drop to the ground, get up, vogue some more, then drop again!!!!! It will be TO WONG FOO to the 1000 degree. Maybe we can drag some closet queens out too. Don't worry KIMRACHEL. You don't have to let people know we know you. Just sit back and enjoy the show. "Look at the lil latin boi in a dress!!!" | |
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Ottensen said: SUPRMAN said: And you'll love the way they treat the indigenous inhabitants of the continent. WHY did you just do that? SERIOUSLY. You see someone reaching out for support and comfort, and an orger responds in kind with goood intentions, so can you please tell me WHY you felt the need to shit all over us wanting to support this woman and her family with well wishes? I'm not shitting on anyone OR those who support her. I guess I should know how to think . . . . . . . like the group . . . . [Edited 1/30/09 19:42pm] I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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SUPRMAN said: Ottensen said: WHY did you just do that? SERIOUSLY. You see someone reaching out for support and comfort, and an orger responds in kind with goood intentions, so can you please tell me WHY you felt the need to shit all over us wanting to support this woman and her family with well wishes? I'm not shitting on anyone OR those who support her. I guess I should know how to think . . . . . . . like the group . . . . [Edited 1/30/09 19:42pm] Kim I can come beat somebody's ass for you. | |
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kimrachell said: meow85 said: YIf you ever want to give it a serious shot, you should come to Vancouver so I can have orgfriends in my city. Vancouver is a beautiful place! I've only been here since July, but I love it. Come on up sometime. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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That's a very sad situation to have to be in in 2009. I would agree with Painted on some points - try and brazen it out if they see you standing up for yourself they may back off, but if you have tried to stick up for yourself and it is not working; you and your husbands safety and wellbeing are the most important thing so maybe a move is needed.
If you do move, choose your new location carefully because as someone else posted (can't remember poster) there are racists everywhere. Do you have any family that you can move closer to, so you have some support? "I know that living with u baby, was sometimes hard...but I'm willing 2 give it another try.
Cause nothing compares....nothing compares 2 u!" | |
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Vegas sucks too.....since it is in the middle of a Red State
lived there 2 years and it felt racist.....they like to keep a certain element out (away from the tourists) the place you live in sounds familiar my uncle lives in Mountain View, CA and says it is a racist gold mining town and he also is getting the hell out of there as soon as he can find a better job good luck never look back either but you should light the town on fire before you leave | |
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japanrocks said: Vegas sucks too.....since it is in the middle of a Red State
lived there 2 years and it felt racist.....they like to keep a certain element out (away from the tourists) the place you live in sounds familiar my uncle lives in Mountain View, CA and says it is a racist gold mining town and he also is getting the hell out of there as soon as he can find a better job good luck never look back either but you should light the town on fire before you leave Mountain View? Really? In the Bay Area? | |
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SUPRMAN said: ZombieKitten said: that is really shitty you could try Australia! we come in all kinds here And you'll love the way they treat the indigenous inhabitants of the continent. The past has been terrible, but not only for the Aboriginals, mostly for the Europeans that migrated by ship to this forsaken land and were rejected by the whites. I was a victim of racism throughout high school, and that was the 90's. It will never stop because racism breeds racism. As for the Aboriginals, they receive a pension from birth, they have been given their holy land back to them, and the country has apologised to them for cruelty suffered in the past numerous times. It's enough when one minority of Australians are given rights and privileges that are not available to others. And still the statistics remain as follows: Average unemployment is 35% 60% earn less than $12,000 a year 60% leave school before year 10 of high school 25% of those between 15-24 years-old have been arrested at least once in the past five years Between 1994-1997, an increase of 20% in the number of young Aborigines in detention. | |
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PanthaGirl said: SUPRMAN said: And you'll love the way they treat the indigenous inhabitants of the continent. The past has been terrible, but not only for the Aboriginals, mostly for the Europeans that migrated by ship to this forsaken land and were rejected by the whites. I was a victim of racism throughout high school, and that was the 90's. It will never stop because racism breeds racism. As for the Aboriginals, they receive a pension from birth, they have been given their holy land back to them, and the country has apologised to them for cruelty suffered in the past numerous times. It's enough when one minority of Australians are given rights and privileges that are not available to others. And still the statistics remain as follows: Average unemployment is 35% 60% earn less than $12,000 a year 60% leave school before year 10 of high school 25% of those between 15-24 years-old have been arrested at least once in the past five years Between 1994-1997, an increase of 20% in the number of young Aborigines in detention. If you're getting at what I think you are, then I'll just have to say as politely as possible that you don't have any idea what you're talking about. What I'd prefer to say in response to your post would probably be deleted, so I'll refrain. The damage wrought by years of racist institutions, policy, and culture does not just disappear overnight with an apology. All those numbers you mentioned are symptomatic of a people badly damaged, not one that is priviledge or being given "special rights". Only an ignorant fool would think otherwise. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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JuliePurplehead said: I'm so sorry you're going through this right now. I would move too. It's a new year, maybe a new home will be just what you need to start it off right. Good luck!
thanks so much! yesterday i spent most of the day looking at apts. & some houses as well, there are some good choices, on my husband's day off i'm going to take him back so he can have a look at the places too, but i feel positive about it! i think you're right about a new home being a better start to the year. | |
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japanrocks said: Vegas sucks too.....since it is in the middle of a Red State
lived there 2 years and it felt racist.....they like to keep a certain element out (away from the tourists) the place you live in sounds familiar my uncle lives in Mountain View, CA and says it is a racist gold mining town and he also is getting the hell out of there as soon as he can find a better job good luck never look back either but you should light the town on fire before you leave yeah, i have friends and family that live in las vegas, not sure if i would want to move there or not? but in may we are going there for a visit to see friends. it's been years since i've been there, and my husband has never been there before. my grandparents have lived in carson city nevada for over 30 years, it's not too far from lake tahoe and reno, but i don't like it there. i didn't know that about Mountain View, i've never really spent any time there, only driven through, but it doesn't surprise me. | |
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Neophyte said: That's a very sad situation to have to be in in 2009. I would agree with Painted on some points - try and brazen it out if they see you standing up for yourself they may back off, but if you have tried to stick up for yourself and it is not working; you and your husbands safety and wellbeing are the most important thing so maybe a move is needed.
If you do move, choose your new location carefully because as someone else posted (can't remember poster) there are racists everywhere. Do you have any family that you can move closer to, so you have some support? like i said before, we've given this town over 3 years of trying, and we're done, so it's best to move. i do have family in the sacramento area, and friends, the area we are looking for a place is much more diverse and i am really looking into the neighborhoods. | |
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meow85 said: PanthaGirl said: The past has been terrible, but not only for the Aboriginals, mostly for the Europeans that migrated by ship to this forsaken land and were rejected by the whites. I was a victim of racism throughout high school, and that was the 90's. It will never stop because racism breeds racism. As for the Aboriginals, they receive a pension from birth, they have been given their holy land back to them, and the country has apologised to them for cruelty suffered in the past numerous times. It's enough when one minority of Australians are given rights and privileges that are not available to others. And still the statistics remain as follows: Average unemployment is 35% 60% earn less than $12,000 a year 60% leave school before year 10 of high school 25% of those between 15-24 years-old have been arrested at least once in the past five years Between 1994-1997, an increase of 20% in the number of young Aborigines in detention. If you're getting at what I think you are, then I'll just have to say as politely as possible that you don't have any idea what you're talking about. What I'd prefer to say in response to your post would probably be deleted, so I'll refrain. The damage wrought by years of racist institutions, policy, and culture does not just disappear overnight with an apology. All those numbers you mentioned are symptomatic of a people badly damaged, not one that is priviledge or being given "special rights". Only an ignorant fool would think otherwise. Pretty much. | |
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LADYDYE said: damn. Being a white girl living in a pretty much white area, i have never experienced anything like this, Kim. but being a thinking and compassionate human being - it makes me downright ill.
Why are people so intent on hate and division and fucked-up antiquated ways of thinking??? Miss Kim, i don't know you, but i wish you and your family the very best. May peace and safety be all around you. it's really hard to understand, i've never understood racism! thanks for your kind words! [Edited 1/31/09 11:35am] | |
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meow85 said: kimrachell said: Vancouver is a beautiful place! I've only been here since July, but I love it. Come on up sometime. would make a great vacation!!! | |
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meow85 said: PanthaGirl said: The past has been terrible, but not only for the Aboriginals, mostly for the Europeans that migrated by ship to this forsaken land and were rejected by the whites. I was a victim of racism throughout high school, and that was the 90's. It will never stop because racism breeds racism. As for the Aboriginals, they receive a pension from birth, they have been given their holy land back to them, and the country has apologised to them for cruelty suffered in the past numerous times. It's enough when one minority of Australians are given rights and privileges that are not available to others. And still the statistics remain as follows: Average unemployment is 35% 60% earn less than $12,000 a year 60% leave school before year 10 of high school 25% of those between 15-24 years-old have been arrested at least once in the past five years Between 1994-1997, an increase of 20% in the number of young Aborigines in detention. If you're getting at what I think you are, then I'll just have to say as politely as possible that you don't have any idea what you're talking about. What I'd prefer to say in response to your post would probably be deleted, so I'll refrain. The damage wrought by years of racist institutions, policy, and culture does not just disappear overnight with an apology. All those numbers you mentioned are symptomatic of a people badly damaged, not one that is priviledge or being given "special rights". Only an ignorant fool would think otherwise. U obviously didn't read the post correctly, just stating the facts, so U have no idea what ur talking about! | |
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paintedlady said: kimrachell said: i want to thank everyone that left messages of support for our family! we really appreciate it!
to the people that think we shouldn't move and just stay here to prove a point and not let the racist people win. well, we've tried that, we've lived here for 3 and a half years trying to ignore it, because it's a beautiful area to live, and we didn't want to move just because of some ignorant folks. but now it is to the extreme, it's gotten to where we are in the supermarket and people start making comments with my 4 year old son there, and my husband getting tickets from the local racist police for not even doing anything wrong, and i feel it's just at a dangerous point. we have a son, and i just don't see the point of putting ourselves through more stress? moving to me just seems more logical and best for our family right now. but once again i thank you all for your support and advice, it really does help in a rough time like this! OH DAMN!!! Its THAT bad?!!!! the police are acting out on you guys as well, then you must leave, it is a matter of time before something dangerous happens. You are in my thoughts and prayers, stay strong.... stay safe yep! i wrote a civil rights org. in sacramento about what's been happening to us, and this is their response to my letter: "dear mrs. lira, we here at the american civil rights institute have been aware of several cases of racism and injustice in not only your city, but your county. from past experience i would recommend that you first move to a city several miles away from amador county. then we will go from there, it is not safe at this point for you to continue to live where you are, and it's not safe to file a complaint until you are moved safely from the area. are you able to move at this time? do you have the finances to move, i would as soon as you are able. if not, maybe you can find someone to borrow from for the move. please keep me informed, and we will do our best to help you once you move. i would help you now, but where you live is not a safe area. but be sure i have kept your e-mail, and if something else occurs before you move, please let me know! and i can further assist you. stay safe, sincerely, dee american civil rights institute" | |
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kimrachell said: paintedlady said: OH DAMN!!! Its THAT bad?!!!! the police are acting out on you guys as well, then you must leave, it is a matter of time before something dangerous happens. You are in my thoughts and prayers, stay strong.... stay safe yep! i wrote a civil rights org. in sacramento about what's been happening to us, and this is their response to my letter: "dear mrs. lira, we here at the american civil rights institute have been aware of several cases of racism and injustice in not only your city, but your county. from past experience i would recommend that you first move to a city several miles away from amador county. then we will go from there, it is not safe at this point for you to continue to live where you are, and it's not safe to file a complaint until you are moved safely from the area. are you able to move at this time? do you have the finances to move, i would as soon as you are able. if not, maybe you can find someone to borrow from for the move. please keep me informed, and we will do our best to help you once you move. i would help you now, but where you live is not a safe area. but be sure i have kept your e-mail, and if something else occurs before you move, please let me know! and i can further assist you. stay safe, sincerely, dee american civil rights institute" Wow that's hectic! Hope it all pans out for U in positive fashion. | |
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