Sorry to hear that Kim, there are some truly fucked up people in this world. I hope that you and your hubby find peace and happiness soon.

SUPRMAN said:

so what you are really saying is don't move because no country in the world is free from racism.

Australia has gone to great lengths to rectify any wrong-doings with the native owners of the land and as far as i can see there is allot more acceptance in aus than their is in the states of other nationalities.

its not the 1950-60's anymore...

SUPRMAN said:

WHY did you just do that?

SERIOUSLY.

You see someone reaching out for support and comfort, and an orger responds in kind with goood intentions, so can you please tell me WHY you felt the need to shit all over us wanting to support this woman and her family with well wishes?

paintedlady said:

I agree with this and well said miss. I'm sorry Kim you have to go through that racism unfortunately is still alive even though progress is made slowly but surely , and hopefully will continue to be made. Stay strong!

And thats one of the reasons why I fled the USA scene its too deep

Even the folks who they accuse of being "primitive & barbaric" got more class, common sense and broad mind than them.

I hope for you all the good luck.
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Sorry you're having to go through this. I wish you luck in your relocationg efforts.

If all else fails, you're welcome to come up here. We're not free of racism either, but it's not as bad as the U.S., at least.

meow85 said:

I love Canada,,,,and I seriously thought about moving up there for a minute(I have afew family members & friends in there so its a plus).

Harlepolis said:

YIf you ever want to give it a serious shot, you should come to Vancouver so I can have orgfriends in my city.

i want to thank everyone that left messages of support for our family! we really appreciate it!

to the people that think we shouldn't move and just stay here to prove a point and not let the racist people win. well, we've tried that, we've lived here for 3 and a half years trying to ignore it, because it's a beautiful area to live, and we didn't want to move just because of some ignorant folks. but now it is to the extreme, it's gotten to where we are in the supermarket and people start making comments with my 4 year old son there, and my husband getting tickets from the local racist police for not even doing anything wrong, and i feel it's just at a dangerous point. we have a son, and i just don't see the point of putting ourselves through more stress? moving to me just seems more logical and best for our family right now.

but once again i thank you all for your support and advice, it really does help in a rough time like this!

California can be the best place for minorities and people who aren't white but it can be fucking hellhole too. Nearly always in the small towns and inland areas. Fucking sad. I hope you find a better place baby

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

yeah, our town only has 3,000 people, so it's pretty small, you would never know you were living in california here! people are not open minded at all!

meow85 said:

Vancouver is a beautiful place!

Harlepolis said:

there have been times we've talked about moving back to brazil, we were alot happier there.

hokie said:

thanks!

paintedlady said:

That's what I'm talking about!

reneGade20 said:

fight the good fight, baby!
i always say thank god for the next generation
but that only works if we actually see the younger ones
being more worldly and tolerant. of all places that need
to be less ethnocentric it's the US military!

kimrachell said:

You got it, sweetie. Hang in there. @)-}-----

emm said:

Honestly, I stumbled upon a blog frequented by military folks (active, reserve and retired) and my hair stood up on end...some were straight up about how they felt, and others crafted covert masterpiece posts out of tried and true code words from the past...and I have this fear (which I'm praying is completely unfounded) that when I start peeling this onion, its going to expose much more division that I could have ever imagined....and the really scary part is that the young ones are the worst ones...on both sides of the equation...

oh yeah....how ya been, missy?

reneGade20 said:

my dad was in the army most of my life, so i know exactly what you're talking about!

MRGee said:

yeah, my husband had contacted an organization in sacramento that helps with hate crimes and discrimination, and they knew already about how bad our town is. and even they said we need to move, that this town is too crazy for anyone that's not white.

kimrachell said:

Aren't there any civil rights groups you can contact? The cops shouldn't be allowed to get away with that shit.

kimrachell said:

I'm hoping that things work out for you and your family....still trips me out that Cali is like that, but I had a troop a while back from Modesto who told us pretty much the same thing...

reneGade20 said:

thanks so much! yeah, modesto is only about a little over an hour from where i live, i've heard alot about it.

kimrachell said:

I believe you. I used to live up in Northern California, half hour above Sacramento, and that town was WHITE!!!! I mean, I could count on one hand the minorities who lived there. I found it really suspicious that the cops always seemed to pull over people of color amd/or crappy looking cars. It wasn't just a coincidence after a while.

They make no bones about what they want. They want their little towns to stay the same, and they do not want anybody who is different coming up past a certain point. It is beautiful there, you're right. But they won't accept you guys no matter what you do. I say move.

What town is it anyway?

kimrachell said:

that is really ridiculous.
im going to call obama real quick,okay? lol
cheer up

uPtoWnNY said:

there are civil rights groups in the sacramento area, we have talked to some of them, but they have given us the advice to move first, because if you file a complaint while living at the same place, it just causes them to pick on you even more. so that's one reason we're trying to move.

kimrachell said:

What town is it? It may be the same one I was living in!!

GetAwayFromMe said:

you're so right! everything you said sounds 100% like the town we live in. we live in sutter creek, it's about 42 miles away from stockton into the foothills, very close to jackson area.

kimrachell said:

You need to have an invasion and that way we can flood every establishment in the town with insanity so that way when we leave you'll look totally normal to them

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Lawd, why are you trying to start a riot??