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Reply #270 posted 01/23/08 6:25pm

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Copycat said:



Mary-Kate Olsen's Link to Heath Ledger Case
By Kathy Ehrich Dowd and Liz McNeil
People.com

The masseuse who discovered Heath Ledger's body spoke to the actor's friend Mary-Kate Olsen twice on the phone before dialing 911, police sources confirm.

Masseuse Diana Wolozin arrived at Ledger's Manhattan apartment to give him a massage at about 2:45 p.m. on Tuesday. When he didn't come out of his bedroom, she called his cell phone and got no answer, according to the sources.

She then went inside his bedroom, saw him lying in bed, set up the massage table near his bed, and shook him. When the 28-year-old actor did not respond, the masseuse – who knew that Ledger was friends with Olsen – used the speed dial on Ledger's cell phone to call Olsen in California asking for help, the sources say.

Olsen, 21, initially told the masseuse she would call security people in New York for help. The masseuse then called Olsen back to say she would call 911 herself, the sources say.

Emergency aid workers arrived at the apartment at almost the exact same time as Olsen's security people.

The source confirmed information first reported by the New York Times. It also clarifies Olsen's link to the case. Earlier rumors erroneously said that Ledger had died in Olsen's apartment.



On a different note, finally a picture where a Olsen twin looks human like.
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Reply #271 posted 01/23/08 6:40pm

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I saw one report that said he was found lying next to the bed on the floor and one report that says that he was found lying in the bed.

I suppose it's just details but it proves that the media has a difficult time reporting things accurately. Beside the bed and in the bed are very different situations.

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Reply #272 posted 01/23/08 7:09pm

Sdldawn

i heard something on the radio about him not being able to get good sleep since he played the joker.. what the heck is this about.. or is this a rumor
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Reply #273 posted 01/23/08 7:16pm

Stymie

CalhounSq said:

lazycrockett said:

What Fox News thinks of Heath's death.

http://thinkprogress.org/...ks-ledger/

Opening his radio show with funeral music yesterday, Fox News host John Gibson callously mocked the death of actor Heath Ledger, calling him a “weirdo” with a “serious drug problem.”

Playing an audio clip of the iconic quote, “I wish I knew how to quit you” from Ledger’s gay romance movie Brokeback Mountain, Gibson disdainfully quipped, “Well, he found out how to quit you.” Laughing, Gibson then played another clip from Brokeback Mountain in which Ledger said, “We’re dead,” followed by his own, mocking “We’re dead” before playing the clip again.

click on link to listen to audio.

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Damn, that's some serious dickishness... send it to Lovemachine, he'll LOVE it nod
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Reply #274 posted 01/23/08 7:37pm

Fauxie

A Knight's Tale is on Star Movies right now

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Reply #275 posted 01/23/08 8:15pm

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A Knight's Tale is on Star Movies right now

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sad

Although I do follow some stuff about celebs just out of curiosity, I generally do not tend to think too much of what I hear. It's not like it has any real affect on my life in any way. I mean, I'll feel bad for people who lose a loved one or I'll feel bad for people who are obviously struggling in their lives (yes, I do feel sad for Britney) on a very superficial level, but that's about it.

However, this news is actually making me feel really shitty. For me, that's really weird because I definitely don't fall into the whole I-Worship-Celebs or the equally weird to me I-Hate-Celebs categories.

Don't know how to explain it cuz I don't know the guy other than what I have seen in movies and interviews....but, I'm actually sad over this. Maybe it's because he reminds me of a few people I really care about in my life...one of them being my youngest brother.
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Reply #276 posted 01/24/08 12:41am

PeaceandLoveCo
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My brother-in-law played a small speaking role in "10 things I hate about you..."
great film.

Poor guy.
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Reply #277 posted 01/24/08 12:45am

shanti0608

JustErin said:

Fauxie said:

A Knight's Tale is on Star Movies right now

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Although I do follow some stuff about celebs just out of curiosity, I generally do not tend to think too much of what I hear. It's not like it has any real affect on my life in any way. I mean, I'll feel bad for people who lose a loved one or I'll feel bad for people who are obviously struggling in their lives (yes, I do feel sad for Britney) on a very superficial level, but that's about it.

However, this news is actually making me feel really shitty. For me, that's really weird because I definitely don't fall into the whole I-Worship-Celebs or the equally weird to me I-Hate-Celebs categories.

Don't know how to explain it cuz I don't know the guy other than what I have seen in movies and interviews....but, I'm actually sad over this. Maybe it's because he reminds me of a few people I really care about in my life...one of them being my youngest brother.



I feel the same way Erin. It is strange and hard to describe.
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Reply #278 posted 01/24/08 3:22am

MartyMcFly

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No matter what anyone says I would NEVER believe for a second that he took his own life purposefully.


I take it you knew the guy personally? neutral
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Reply #279 posted 01/24/08 3:50am

purplesweat

MartyMcFly said:

horatio said:

No matter what anyone says I would NEVER believe for a second that he took his own life purposefully.


I take it you knew the guy personally? neutral


Of course not, but any avid Heath fan could tell you his incredible love for his daughter. I also personally believe there's no way he could purposefully leave her and even if he could, not leave a note or something behind.

He'd complained of sleeping problems just two months ago and this appears to be a dreadful mistake in the stress of trying desperately to get more than two hours sleep.

I really believe Heath was not the suicidal type, even if his personal life wasn't going so well.
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Reply #280 posted 01/24/08 4:34am

Sdldawn

purplesweat said:

MartyMcFly said:



I take it you knew the guy personally? neutral


Of course not, but any avid Heath fan could tell you his incredible love for his daughter. I also personally believe there's no way he could purposefully leave her and even if he could, not leave a note or something behind.

He'd complained of sleeping problems just two months ago and this appears to be a dreadful mistake in the stress of trying desperately to get more than two hours sleep.

I really believe Heath was not the suicidal type, even if his personal life wasn't going so well.


was this during the filming of Dark Knight (The Joker?)
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Reply #281 posted 01/24/08 6:13am

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MartyMcFly said:

horatio said:

No matter what anyone says I would NEVER believe for a second that he took his own life purposefully.


I take it you knew the guy personally? neutral


One can believe something about someone without knowing them. Belief is inherently subjective, not objective.
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Reply #282 posted 01/24/08 7:02am

Mach

namepeace said:

MartyMcFly said:



I take it you knew the guy personally? neutral


One can believe something about someone without knowing them. Belief is inherently subjective, not objective.


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Reply #283 posted 01/24/08 7:29am

statuesqque

I liked him in Monster's Ball, it was a supporting part but very good.
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Reply #284 posted 01/24/08 7:35am

shanti0608

statuesqque said:

I liked him in Monster's Ball, it was a supporting part but very good.



oh yes..he was in that, wasn't he.

wow....

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Reply #285 posted 01/24/08 7:46am

statuesqque

shanti0608 said:

statuesqque said:

I liked him in Monster's Ball, it was a supporting part but very good.



oh yes..he was in that, wasn't he.

wow....

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yeah, I didn't even know that till I watched it. It was an all start cast but only remember the hype about Halle Berry and Billy Bob Thornton.
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Reply #286 posted 01/24/08 8:02am

horatio

What is really pissing me off is the fact that the pharmaceutical companies keep tip-toeing by what is happening with people who take their drugs, while everyones attention is focused on the recent loss or mass murder.
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Reply #287 posted 01/24/08 8:26am

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purplesweat said:

MartyMcFly said:



I take it you knew the guy personally? neutral


Of course not, but any avid Heath fan could tell you his incredible love for his daughter. I also personally believe there's no way he could purposefully leave her and even if he could, not leave a note or something behind.

He'd complained of sleeping problems just two months ago and this appears to be a dreadful mistake in the stress of trying desperately to get more than two hours sleep.

I really believe Heath was not the suicidal type, even if his personal life wasn't going so well.


Just like Kurt Cobain's incredible love for Francis Bean? And yet he blew his brains out. confused Just sayin'. No one but Heath will know exactly what happened, the rest is always speculation.
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Reply #288 posted 01/24/08 9:44am

horatio

DevotedPuppy said:

purplesweat said:



Of course not, but any avid Heath fan could tell you his incredible love for his daughter. I also personally believe there's no way he could purposefully leave her and even if he could, not leave a note or something behind.

He'd complained of sleeping problems just two months ago and this appears to be a dreadful mistake in the stress of trying desperately to get more than two hours sleep.

I really believe Heath was not the suicidal type, even if his personal life wasn't going so well.


Just like Kurt Cobain's incredible love for Francis Bean? And yet he blew his brains out. confused Just sayin'. No one but Heath will know exactly what happened, the rest is always speculation.



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Reply #289 posted 01/24/08 10:57am

Stymie

horatio said:

What is really pissing me off is the fact that the pharmaceutical companies keep tip-toeing by what is happening with people who take their drugs, while everyones attention is focused on the recent loss or mass murder.
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Reply #290 posted 01/24/08 11:12am

PeaceandLoveCo
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Stymie said:

horatio said:

What is really pissing me off is the fact that the pharmaceutical companies keep tip-toeing by what is happening with people who take their drugs, while everyones attention is focused on the recent loss or mass murder.
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Reply #291 posted 01/24/08 11:47am

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From what little is known, 911 should have been the first call made.
Not to MK Olsen. Time was wasted, and it delayed emergency personnel arriving at the scene.
If ever there is a reason for members here to learn CPR, this is it. The Red Cross offers classes on a regular basis.
It could be a family member or friend who needs assistance. Sometimes, it's just a matter of repositioning the head or jaw, to open the airway. wink
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Reply #292 posted 01/24/08 11:59am

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horatio said:

DevotedPuppy said:



Just like Kurt Cobain's incredible love for Francis Bean? And yet he blew his brains out. confused Just sayin'. No one but Heath will know exactly what happened, the rest is always speculation.



doody


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Reply #293 posted 01/24/08 12:10pm

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CalhounSq said:

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I find it really unsettling that his last role is The Joker. I know it's just a movie, but the character in all forms of media (60's tv show notwithstanding) is notorious for driving people to their -often self inflicted -deaths.

I don't know. It just makes me feel weird.

I don't know anything about folks being driven to death after the role (& personally wouldn't put much stock into that), but there may be something to the types of actors who are drawn to the role in the first place shrug

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Yup.

And consider the famous story about Dustin Hoffman and Laurence Olivier on the set of Marathon Man. Hoffman is playing a character who hasn't slept and is extremely stressed out, so he stays up all night and shows up on set the next day tired out of his mind and completely dishevilled. Olivier asks him why he looks so awful, so Hoffman explains his logic. Olivier laughs and says, "Why not try acting? It's much easier."

The Joker didn't drive Heath to anything; Heath's actions and addictions were his own. Method acting is not the reason, but I'm sure they are going to try and cite it as one for marketing purposes.
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Reply #294 posted 01/24/08 2:26pm

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http://www.cnn.com/2008/S...pstoryview

Ledger's death puts last films in a bind



(CNN) -- Before he died, Heath Ledger had two films in production: "The Dark Knight," the latest chapter in the Batman saga, and "The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus," the latest film from director Terry Gilliam.


Heath Ledger's Joker character, here on the "Dark Knight" poster, is the focus of the film's marketing effort.



The actor, who died Tuesday of unknown causes at age 28, had finished filming "The Dark Knight" late last year. It's due to be released in July. But marketing of the film, currently in post-production, has been thrown into turmoil, the trade paper Variety notes.

The early push for the film has focused on Ledger's villainous Joker character, including a poster with a shrouded Joker scrawling "Why So Serious?" in blood on misty glass.

The film's studio, Warner Bros., recently restructured its marketing department, Variety reports, after the departure of the executive who helped create the "Dark Knight" campaign. (Warner Bros., like CNN, is a unit of Time Warner.)

The trade paper speculates that the marketing campaign will be changed abruptly.

The studio put out a statement Tuesday saying it was "stunned and devastated" by the news of Ledger's death. "The entertainment community has lost an enormous talent. Heath was a brilliant actor and an exceptional person. Our hearts go out to his family and friends," the statement said. Watch colleagues' memories of Heath Ledger »

With the Joker, Ledger was taking on a role that Jack Nicholson had rendered indelibly in 1989's "Batman." But "Dark Knight" director Christopher Nolan said the actor had more than measured up to Nicholson. "To be perfectly honest ... what he's doing is indescribable. He's figured it out," Nolan told the crowd at an August comic book convention in Chicago.

The role as arch villain The Joker disturbed Ledger, according to The Associated Press. He called the character a "psychopathic, mass-murdering, schizophrenic clown with zero empathy."

Although unusual, Ledger's death does not mark the first time a major star has died while a film has been in production.

Perhaps the most famous example is James Dean, who died in September 1955, before post-production on "Giant" had finished. Dean's dialogue in the film's final scene had to be re-recorded, Variety observes, because he had mumbled in the shot. (Dean and director George Stevens famously clashed during filming.)

Dean was nominated for an Oscar for his performance, his second posthumous Oscar nomination after "East of Eden."

Brandon Lee died during filming of 1994's "The Crow," prompting director Alex Proyas to use a stunt double and special effects. Oliver Reed had a heart attack during the making of 2000's "Gladiator"; technology made it possible for director Ridley Scott to use a double as a stand-in with Reed's face computer-generated in.

Gilliam's film, which concerns prime Gilliam material such as a magic mirror, a traveling show, the devil and a rougish character played by Ledger, is more problematic.

The cast had just completed filming in London, which actor Christopher Plummer characterized as "cold as bejesus" to Entertainment Weekly. "You know how damp it gets in London. And at night the temperature drops horribly, and that little breeze gets up. You have to wear tons of stuff," he said.

Plummer said that Ledger had a "terrible, lingering bug in London, and he couldn't sleep at all. We all -- I thought he'd probably got walking pneumonia," he told EW.

Gilliam has had challenges before. During the making of his film "The Man Who Killed Don Quixote," the Monty Python troupe member coped with filming near a NATO shooting range, a flash flood and a star with a herniated disc, a final indignity that prompted financiers to pull the plug.

But nothing approaches Ledger's death. Indeed, part of the reason Gilliam was able to obtain the film's relatively paltry $30 million financing was because of Ledger's agreement to star, according to Variety.

Ledger and Gilliam had become close during the making of Gilliam's "The Brothers Grimm" and Ledger had plans to become a feature director himself, several sources have reported. The actor had directed a handful of music videos, including one for Ben Harper, with whom he formed a record company.

Last month, Gilliam told Variety, "He's going to be a much better director than I will ever be."

Plummer told EW that "Parnassus" had "an enormous amount left to do." After a short break, the cast was going to re-convene in Vancouver, British Columbia, primarily for technical and special-effects work.

"God knows what's going to happen now," Plummer said
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Reply #295 posted 01/24/08 4:25pm

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DevotedPuppy said:

purplesweat said:



Of course not, but any avid Heath fan could tell you his incredible love for his daughter. I also personally believe there's no way he could purposefully leave her and even if he could, not leave a note or something behind.

He'd complained of sleeping problems just two months ago and this appears to be a dreadful mistake in the stress of trying desperately to get more than two hours sleep.

I really believe Heath was not the suicidal type, even if his personal life wasn't going so well.


Just like Kurt Cobain's incredible love for Francis Bean? And yet he blew his brains out. confused Just sayin'. No one but Heath will know exactly what happened, the rest is always speculation.



Well, I can't comment on Kurt Cobain cause I was only about 3-4 when that happened.

All I know is Heath adored his daughter and the separation from her after the break up was really affecting him.

And to whoever asked me, yes he said he had problems while filming The Joker. Apparently to get into character he deprived himself of sleep, wrote a diary in character and just generally didn't socialise or leave his apartment much.
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Reply #296 posted 01/24/08 4:37pm

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Fauxie said:

A Knight's Tale is on Star Movies right now

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The Order came on the other day.....kinda odd.
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Reply #297 posted 01/24/08 4:41pm

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AnckSuNamun said:

Fauxie said:

A Knight's Tale is on Star Movies right now

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The Order came on the other day.....kinda odd.

I'd be curious to see if those were scheduled before his death or if they're cashing in on it hammer
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Reply #298 posted 01/24/08 5:06pm

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CalhounSq said:

AnckSuNamun said:


The Order came on the other day.....kinda odd.

I'd be curious to see if those were scheduled before his death or if they're cashing in on it hammer

That's what I was thinking, because The Order isn't a movie that gets shown often.
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Reply #299 posted 01/24/08 5:08pm

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AnckSuNamun said:

CalhounSq said:


I'd be curious to see if those were scheduled before his death or if they're cashing in on it hammer

That's what I was thinking, because The Order isn't a movie that gets shown often.


Isn't it obvious?
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