of the past 10 or so years. If the 80's were Prince then the 90's and early 2000's are Kelly's. Speaking of the R, doesn't it seem like he was given us hints about his sexual orientation through his music.
Age ain't nothing but a number-song by his 17 yr old rumored wife Alyah
Seems like your ready-
Bump and Grind-I don't see nothing wrong
And now he's the Pide Piper! just a thought

popgodazipa said:

All his songs sound the same to me !! I would not compare him to P ever !!

That says a lot about the R&B emptiness

ROTFL
Some people...

Influential?? Hardly. What in the world has he influenced?? He's talented, yes. He has a knack for knowing what a lot of young people want to hear, but his music has NOT broken any musical barriers. You can't compare what Prince did in the 80s to anything he's done. His music sounds like eveyone else's; it's just they're hits. Don't confuse breaking styles and being musically brave with making hits. They're not one and the same. I'd say the same thing with Babyface, too. He had a really good, long run of making hits, but he didn't really "influence" a genre like the kinds of Prince, Stevie Wonder, Sly, Marvin, etc...

Yeah,it's hilarious for anyone to suggest that R.Kelly is "influential".His music is just standard modern-day R&B and nothing more.He doesn't really branch out and do anything bold or groundbreaking.Granted,he's good at what he does,which is making hits.And occasionally,he comes up with a great song ("Step In The Name Of Love" is da jam),but it's a stretch to act as if he is some modern-day Mozart...lol...

CalhounSq said:

OHHH
HEYYY
CSq!!!
Sooo Nice to see YOU!

Melody

R KELLY???

Some of you are confusing innovation with influence. No, R Kelly is not the most innovative artist in R&B. But his style over the past 10 years has really rubbed off on everyone else in the R&B world to where a lot of artists sound like him or even imitate him. The difference is they're not as good of songwriters as R is. In that case, that would make him a very influential artist.

Might explain why the cahrts are so dull these days. He's puking all over everything and taking away it's life.

popgodazipa said:

Age anit nothing but a number, just ask Prince. BTW R-Kelly isn't even close to revolutionary. He's a carbo copy of Marvin Gaye, only nowhere near as good

More like Most Influenced R&B Artist. R has made a lot of catchy tunes, and is a great songwriter, when he wants to be. But its obvious that with his most recent work,he's paying homage to some of the greats (Marvin Gave, Stevie W, Ron Isley, Al Green, and of course, Lenny Williams, among others.) His R&B songs are enjoyable because they take listeners back to a different, more soulful era of music. I can't stand "Thoia Thoing," and most of his other "club anthems," which are clicheic, repetitive and stale. But when he sticks to what he does nest, he's gold.

R&B does sound alike, same generic topics, same riffs, same hedonistic images. There is very little distinction between R&B and rap, which is directly the result of R. Kelly. He merged the two into an unholy matrimony in which the two became one. Love is now rendered to its lowest mysogionistic denominator, romance muted by sounds of crystal popping, and "ice" blinging. Now his music seems to be moving back to R&B's traditional roots, with a strong staple of Al Green, Marvin Gaye mixed throughout. If it proves to be a success, you will see more and R&B acts follow suit.

actually, i'd say Prince and MJ have been more influential in the 00's than they were in the 80's and 90's. the new and hot artists out today grew up on their stuff and are incorporating it into their own acts. artists of the 80's and 90's were influenced by those that came before them, not their contemporaries.



R.Kelly's influence ran out in the mid-90's. and his influence, at that, was basically everyone wanting to copy his copy of Prince's vibe on things like "Do Me Baby" and "Insatialbe" run through a fake/crappy/plastic r&b soul-sucking bozoputer.

AaronMaximus said:

My Man! :d

I always enjoy R. Kelly's albums. First one was pretty weak tho. He has grown a lot since then and he has his own sound, I reckon. More than I can say for a lot of artists.

I honestly thought clicking on this thread was gonna be a joke about him.. and suprisingly, It was

Porno music is more influential than his music.. Find the irony in that
[This message was edited Tue Oct 7 21:04:11 PDT 2003 by Sdldawn]

King of modern R&B! Funky.

popgodazipa said:

Add the sound of an ice cream truck in a song he wrote for his one hit wonder act, JS.

Influential? i don't think so.It's the next generation of singers who decide who is influential.If in ten years, everybody sounds like R.Kelly clones, then he'll be influential.

I don't mind some of his stuff to be honest, but i don't find him very innovative or original.

r kelly is the pied piper of water sports

AaronMaximus said:

@ bozoputer.

Wait til maxxx gets hold of that. YouJust.hatehisGuts. I am the winner!.HatersShake theflakes!

Samples & Keyboard looped music..

it's all like Tollet Paper...

after you used it you throw it out.. you dont save each used piece.


You dont even need to be a musican to be in music. Just think up a 5 second keyboard sound then loop with more stupid noises & crap. (90% of their producing is 15 seconds..then on the bridge you add a few new things) I have seen guys only use their index fingers to play the keyboard,then loop it, then start over AND say and act like they are "Producers"

wow

ALL Tollet Paper

locoarts is absolutely right. Most of todays R&B consists of only 3 or 4 notes looped over and over. Quincy Jones actually commented on this when he and Ray Charles were interviewed on BET with Ed Gordon a while back. You combine that with constant use of vocal overdubs, misc. producer gimicks that are used for every artist they work with, and you are left soul-less music that has become accepted as good. From just the pure craft of songwriting, todays R&B comes nowhere near that of Motown and Philly in their heydey.

The funniest thing is when these artists perform on Letterman, Leno, ect. with a band of like 6 to 8 musicians. Watch the guitarist(s), bass player, keyboard player(s) and their hands. Often times they don't even move cuz there ain't nothing to really play. But the audiences seem to have accepted in large part what has become todays version of Milli Vanilli.

So sad!

NuPwrSoul said:

i've been waiting... but nothing, yet

Age ain't nothing but a number-song by his 17 yr old rumored wife Alyah


I thought she was 14/15 when she was with him? 17 is waaay too old for Robert.

And when IS his trial starting? First it was the end of August, then the end of September - any of you R. K watchers out there know for sure?

Sartoria said:

Sartoria wins this week's Award for "Post of the Week"

I want to tell you all something... in 2001, R Kelly was on tour, and hit my market...This was when Petey Pablo was on top with Raise UP and becoming quite a local legend (I'm in NC). Well, that was back when Petey was being produced by Timbaland.

Well, the concert had Sunshine Anderson (What happened to her?) Petey, and R Kelly.

OK...Petey says he was going to bring Timbaland and Magoo on stage with him. Supposedly, R did not let that happen...he was NOT going to share his stage with people from Blackground. If you will recall, Blackground is Aaliyah's uncle's record label. Timbaland was also affiliated with Blackground...he basically resurected Aaliyah's career after she left R Kelly. So, Petey did not perform, because he was going to be forced to perform on another stage if he brought Tim n Magoo on. So Petey said fuck it, I'm not performing (r and petey are label mates too...hmmm). 5 days later...Aaliyah passed.

Keep that on your head, Mr Kelly.