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Printabley'all are playa h8trs :p | |
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cynicalbastard said: y'all are playa h8trs :p
absolutely. "playa" behavior is deplorable. | |
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DavidEye said: Sartoria said: locoarts is absolutely right. Most of todays R&B consists of only 3 or 4 notes looped over and over. Quincy Jones actually commented on this when he and Ray Charles were interviewed on BET with Ed Gordon a while back. You combine that with constant use of vocal overdubs, misc. producer gimicks that are used for every artist they work with, and you are left soul-less music that has become accepted as good. From just the pure craft of songwriting, todays R&B comes nowhere near that of Motown and Philly in their heydey.
The funniest thing is when these artists perform on Letterman, Leno, ect. with a band of like 6 to 8 musicians. Watch the guitarist(s), bass player, keyboard player(s) and their hands. Often times they don't even move cuz there ain't nothing to really play. But the audiences seem to have accepted in large part what has become todays version of Milli Vanilli. So sad! C'mon now, Motown and the Philly "sound" had nothing to do with innovation and musicianship. It was a business and Gordy and them were out to make money. Any time you have a "sound" you package and continue to milk you're no longer making art. Sartoria wins this week's Award for "Post of the Week"  [This message was edited Fri Oct 10 19:57:02 PDT 2003 by whodknee] |
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whodknee - what the heck are you talking about no innovation and musicianship? Gamble & Huff were outstanding musicians and orchestrators. Motown had "The Funk Brothers" who were musical pioneers of the highest order! Absolutely amazing musicians and song writers with very few equals.
Of course Berry Gordy was about business, that's why it's called the music business. All his musicians came from jazz backgrounds and "innovated" countless sounds that todays artists are so lucky to be able to sample. They also utilized all 12 notes not just 3 or 4. Today it's all about studio sound effects and gimmicks, especially in R&B. It mostly lacks great melodies, intrumentation, or interesting hooks. Berry constantly challanged his musicians to change the sound for every artist they worked with. The competition was fierce and "innovation" was brought forth. There is just no comparison between today's R&B music and then. | |
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never heard of him | |
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