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Reply #30 posted 06/30/18 5:20pm

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Substitute another hated artist for Bieber, and the point is the same: if music gives someone enjoyment, it has some intrinsic value.

I agree that sometimes, some music takes time to reveal its power. I have had to dust off The Bells by Lou Reed every few years for over a decade now before it finally clicked. I also agree that listening to music outside of one's comfort zone can be very rewarding. Tom Waits doesn't fit with most of my collection, but I am very glad I gave Swordfishtrombones a try. And had I not given Sufjan Stevens another chance after the snippets I heard of Seven Swans I heard at a record store listening booth, I would have missed some of my all time favorite songs and albums.

However, we don't "owe" it to any artist to give their music repeated listens over and over to unlock the secret. I have tried with The Beatles many times and it always leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. I'd much rather continue to explore rare italo disco or synth funk goodies than slog through another session of Sgt. Pepper or Revolver or Abbey Road out of some false sense of duty. I'm not missing out by failing to get what makes these albums great to so many more than I am missing out by not having listened to all of those italo disco obscurities which are much more likely to give me pleasure. My reaction to these canonized albums doesn't nullify the enjoyment that Beatles fans have gotten from them.
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Reply #31 posted 06/30/18 5:51pm

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Maybe it has to do with the history.

I bought the Anthology Book, and really, these guys learned their stuff the hard way.
Rubber Soul is exceptional because of the sixties London alignment of the stars.
The Beatles story is really the stuff of legends, they were the first suprised.
They slept in a porn movie theater for a year! That cracks me up.

Once you know the bowl haircuts are very ironic (their humour and wit in interviews is fantastic),
you understand that "Girl", and her tit-tit-tit-tits is socially revolutionary.
The Beatles were the ones to truly whisper in the mike in a sexual way,
and they got away with it, because their music is so fucking eternal, on the spot.
It's set in stone the moment you hear it, and it's unnerving.
The influence on Prince the melody maker is blatant.
Do-wrong woman. Still desire burns.
"Irresistible Bitch" is a X-rated version of "Girl".

Plus, the christic, on the verge of S.M. reference comes out of nowhere,
giving all of a sudden a divine quality to the girl in question.
By the end John's hissings are less desire than longing.

This shit is heavy.
And under 2'30.

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Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #32 posted 06/30/18 6:30pm

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My overrated vote goes to the cartoon, nonsensical shit from Funkadelic/Parliament. I certainly like older funk than that (JB and Sly) but Pfunk was mostly bollocks to me. Some great musicians, great grooves, but shit songs. Want to like, but just can't. I think I'm normal still.

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Reply #33 posted 06/30/18 6:37pm

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Bros - When Will I Be Famous? (1988) and then when they became famous, at one point bigger than New Kids On The Block.....they complained about it lol nuts shrug

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Reply #34 posted 06/30/18 6:57pm

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Marrk said:

My overrated vote goes to the cartoon, nonsensical shit from Funkadelic/Parliament. I certainly like older funk than that (JB and Sly) but Pfunk was mostly bollocks to me. Some great musicians, great grooves, but shit songs. Want to like, but just can't. I think I'm normal still.



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Reply #35 posted 06/30/18 7:31pm

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rdhull said:

Marrk said:

My overrated vote goes to the cartoon, nonsensical shit from Funkadelic/Parliament. I certainly like older funk than that (JB and Sly) but Pfunk was mostly bollocks to me. Some great musicians, great grooves, but shit songs. Want to like, but just can't. I think I'm normal still.

Geezus

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Reply #36 posted 06/30/18 7:44pm

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Marrk said:

My overrated vote goes to the cartoon, nonsensical shit from Funkadelic/Parliament. I certainly like older funk than that (JB and Sly) but Pfunk was mostly bollocks to me. Some great musicians, great grooves, but shit songs. Want to like, but just can't. I think I'm normal still.


No love for NPG's Exodus, then?

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No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #37 posted 06/30/18 7:49pm

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Marrk said:

rdhull said:

Marrk said: Geezus

I know I've got massive balls. Thanks.

No, you dont. You have massive nose. Sir Nose.

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Reply #38 posted 06/30/18 8:09pm

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bonatoc said:

Marrk said:

My overrated vote goes to the cartoon, nonsensical shit from Funkadelic/Parliament. I certainly like older funk than that (JB and Sly) but Pfunk was mostly bollocks to me. Some great musicians, great grooves, but shit songs. Want to like, but just can't. I think I'm normal still.


No love for NPG's Exodus, then?

Yes. And I know what you're getting at BUT I don't have to dig ALL his influences to get HIM. I'm not 100% convinced Prince's funk lineage would have been vastly different anyway, JB was still relevant in the 70's and doing great hybrid funk/disco. Don't worry, I've given it some thought, so no flippant, quick bullshit answer here.


I bought all the Pfunk stuff via boxsets/compilatons. I DID give them due respect in my original post (musicianship etc) Just wish i liked it more. I knew I'd take some flack, but come on, people be saying the Beatles are overrated? Really? 'I am the Walrus', 'Yellow Submarine'? Stick a funky beat on those? = Funkadelic. Without the Beatles wacky bullshit, No PFunk neither. A paradox. Right?

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Reply #39 posted 06/30/18 8:23pm

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rdhull said:

Marrk said:

I know I've got massive balls. Thanks.

No, you dont. You have massive nose. Sir Nose.

I don't fake the funk, I like lots of it, just not all of it. This thread is about opinions still.

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Reply #40 posted 06/30/18 8:44pm

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Marrk said:

rdhull said:

No, you dont. You have massive nose. Sir Nose.

I don't fake the funk, I like lots of it, just not all of it. This thread is about opinions still.

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Ok, thats different. I thought you meant that you dont like it at all. You're not a sir nose.

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Reply #41 posted 06/30/18 11:03pm

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Marrk said:

My overrated vote goes to the cartoon, nonsensical shit from Funkadelic/Parliament. I certainly like older funk than that (JB and Sly) but Pfunk was mostly bollocks to me. Some great musicians, great grooves, but shit songs. Want to like, but just can't. I think I'm normal still.

I don't agree but I totally get and respect your opinion. They had a few tunes that I skipped over

as well.

Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #42 posted 06/30/18 11:16pm

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bonatoc said:

jjhunsecker said:

The Smiths
Kanye West - 'Your most overrated bands'
Beyoncé - 'Your most overrated bands'
Tupac Shamir - 'Your most overrated bands'
Jay-Z - 'Your most overrated bands'
Drake - 'Your most overrated bands'
Leonard Cohen - 'Your most overrated bands'
Rush



Let's try to stick to the topic...

It's all just music to me...I chose to make my response about the "Most Overrated ARTISTS"

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Reply #43 posted 07/01/18 9:19am

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The topic is about overrated bands bit many people are mentioning solo artists?

Also when it comes to this, "overrated" typically is used by people to describe things they don't like but isn't that kinda the point? When you don't see what others see in something to make them like said thing then by proxy, that thing is overrated to you. There is some measure of objectivity to be had here but the subject of what's overrated or underrated will always be primarily subjective; about personal preferences and tastes. Also, somebody saying that something is overrated doesn't automatically equate to "I don't like this", you can like, even love something and consider it overrated or dislike/hate something and feel it's underrated. I consider myself a Drake fan but I also think the dude is grossly overrated and with the mass amount of people claiming him to be the GOAT, there is sufficient reasoning to feel the way I do. At the end of the day, everything and everybody can be overrated or underrated when you got people standing for one extreme or the other (and we got a lot of that these days).

Now for my contribution:

Nirvana
The Beatles
Duran Duran
The Eagles
The Police
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Reply #44 posted 07/01/18 1:37pm

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MotownSubdivision said:

The topic is about overrated bands bit many people are mentioning solo artists?

Also when it comes to this, "overrated" typically is used by people to describe things they don't like but isn't that kinda the point? When you don't see what others see in something to make them like said thing then by proxy, that thing is overrated to you. There is some measure of objectivity to be had here but the subject of what's overrated or underrated will always be primarily subjective; about personal preferences and tastes. Also, somebody saying that something is overrated doesn't automatically equate to "I don't like this", you can like, even love something and consider it overrated or dislike/hate something and feel it's underrated. I consider myself a Drake fan but I also think the dude is grossly overrated and with the mass amount of people claiming him to be the GOAT, there is sufficient reasoning to feel the way I do. At the end of the day, everything and everybody can be overrated or underrated when you got people standing for one extreme or the other (and we got a lot of that these days).


I listed on of my fav bands as overrated and gushed about seeing them live. Heck, most of the ones I said were overrated I still like and enjoy. They’re still overrated
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Reply #45 posted 07/01/18 1:47pm

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rdhull said:

MotownSubdivision said:

The topic is about overrated bands bit many people are mentioning solo artists?

Also when it comes to this, "overrated" typically is used by people to describe things they don't like but isn't that kinda the point? When you don't see what others see in something to make them like said thing then by proxy, that thing is overrated to you. There is some measure of objectivity to be had here but the subject of what's overrated or underrated will always be primarily subjective; about personal preferences and tastes. Also, somebody saying that something is overrated doesn't automatically equate to "I don't like this", you can like, even love something and consider it overrated or dislike/hate something and feel it's underrated. I consider myself a Drake fan but I also think the dude is grossly overrated and with the mass amount of people claiming him to be the GOAT, there is sufficient reasoning to feel the way I do. At the end of the day, everything and everybody can be overrated or underrated when you got people standing for one extreme or the other (and we got a lot of that these days).


I listed on of my fav bands as overrated and gushed about seeing them live. Heck, most of the ones I said were overrated I still like and enjoy. They’re still overrated
Uh... yeah. I said that.
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Reply #46 posted 07/02/18 5:36am

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I don't know about overrated but I'd say Coldplay are the most underrated. I've been coming on this website for years and I've never seen anyone rate them. They've written some of the best melodies of the past 15 years, their album tracks are even better tvan their singles, they are great live, and they dint take themselves too seriously. Thumbs up in my book.


I have praised them on here countless times already!


The overrated: Foo Fighters without any doubt.

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Reply #47 posted 07/02/18 10:01am

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DaveT said:

I don't know about overrated but I'd say Coldplay are the most underrated. I've been coming on this website for years and I've never seen anyone rate them. They've written some of the best melodies of the past 15 years, their album tracks are even better tvan their singles, they are great live, and they dint take themselves too seriously. Thumbs up in my book.


i can get with this statement...i've never really rated them, or paid much attention. they're just not really my thing; but i saw them on austin city limits, and man, it was one of the best rock n roll performances i've ever seen. i really enjoyed watching them...i'm probably not gonna go out and buy some records, but i'd watch them perform again.

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Reply #48 posted 07/02/18 10:14am

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Funkadelic
James Brown
Sly & the Family Stone
Prince


We're just listing bands people like, right?

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Reply #49 posted 07/02/18 12:23pm

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peopel should explain THEIR meaning behind the question...since it varies

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Reply #50 posted 07/02/18 12:38pm

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luvsexy4all said:

peopel should explain THEIR meaning behind the question...since it varies



I think the OP means "underseved success or fame".


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Reply #51 posted 07/02/18 12:38pm

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I could never get into Morrissey or The Smiths, everyone seemed to love them growing up. Same with The Cure, sure there are a few good albums. I used to feel the same way towards Depeche Mode then I had a bout of depression and now I love them.

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Reply #52 posted 07/02/18 12:40pm

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Marrk said:

rdhull said:

Marrk said: Geezus

I know I've got massive balls. Thanks.


Maybe so, but the humour looks tiny.

What's wrong with your Vanillascope?
Too much mashed potatoes,
having a hard time cracking a laugh?


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The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #53 posted 07/02/18 12:51pm

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bonatoc said:

luvsexy4all said:

peopel should explain THEIR meaning behind the question...since it varies



I think the OP means "underseved success or fame".


no one"deserves" success or fame unless they r talented enough or put in the effort....

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Reply #54 posted 07/02/18 11:43pm

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Stars On 45

The Knack

Buggles

Aqua

The Justified Ancients Of Mumu

Musical Youth

Sex Pistols

Rednex



shrug

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Reply #55 posted 07/03/18 1:40am

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StrangeButTrue said:

I could never get into Morrissey or The Smiths, everyone seemed to love them growing up. Same with The Cure, sure there are a few good albums. I used to feel the same way towards Depeche Mode then I had a bout of depression and now I love them.


I struggle with some of The Cure's output, but the Pornography and Disintegration albums are both masterpieces ... just wish the rest of their catalogue was at the same level.

The Smiths I only 'got' a couple of years back ... an older co-worker who was a teen during the eighties got me in to them when we went to see a UK tribute band (The Smyths ... very good btw). Again, I don't like all of their stuff but the tracks I do enjoy are fantastic ... There's A Light That Never Goes Out is one of the greatest songs ever IMO. Having said all that, Morrissey is an absolute pr*ck these days!

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Reply #56 posted 07/03/18 2:01am

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peedub said:

DaveT said:

I don't know about overrated but I'd say Coldplay are the most underrated. I've been coming on this website for years and I've never seen anyone rate them. They've written some of the best melodies of the past 15 years, their album tracks are even better tvan their singles, they are great live, and they dint take themselves too seriously. Thumbs up in my book.


i can get with this statement...i've never really rated them, or paid much attention. they're just not really my thing; but i saw them on austin city limits, and man, it was one of the best rock n roll performances i've ever seen. i really enjoyed watching them...i'm probably not gonna go out and buy some records, but i'd watch them perform again.


If you get the chance to see them in person for cheap (they usually do big stadium shows, so good ticket availability) treat yourself, you'll have a blast.

With them, and other artists I like ... Foo Fighters, Madonna, Springsteen, Prince ... you just know that even if they hadn't made it famous they'd still be playing music on the weekends in some little pub somewhere because they love doing it so much.

I love that vibe off a performer and I can usually tell the ones that are on stage performing because they absolutely love it, money and fame or no money and fame.

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Reply #57 posted 07/03/18 12:08pm

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Red Hot Chilli Peppers - they were pretty good for a brief moment when they had Hillel Slovak, George Clinton produced them and Anthony Kiedis was a fun obnoxious show-off. Since then they have been the most tone-deaf tuneless unmusical band out there.

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Reply #58 posted 07/03/18 12:51pm

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I dont know how one person decides if some band is overrated to them but then in the same time says "I do not like their style of music". Then keep the overrated judgement to the styles of music you like. No one gives a flying if you dont like Pink Floyd and only listen to r&b and pop.

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Reply #59 posted 07/03/18 1:01pm

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Radiohead.
I really did listen to Ok Computer..fell asleep on it. Listened to it again....got a headache. maybe one day I will like them, however I just couldnt. I really did try. Child I donloaded the whole album since it was supposed to be epic and experimental and all that. Yeah and while it was experimental and all I just could not get into it. Just didnt fit him, even though everyone else loved it...I just dont. I think maybe I dont like Thom Yorke's voice. Just doesnt do anything for me like Drake or Taylor Swifts vocals. They just don't carry me. Prince singing "Creep" though...yes lawd.

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