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Quincy Jones says Michael Jackson stole a lot of music This interview  http://www.vulture.com/20...ation.html You worked with Michael Jackson more than anyone he wasn’t related to. What’s something people don’t understand about him? I hate to get into this publicly, but Michael stole a lot of stuff. He stole a lot of songs. [Donna Summer’s] “State of IndependenceOriginally written by Vangelis and longtime Yes front man Jon Anderson, “State of Independence” was recorded by Donna Summer in 1982. Jones produced Summer’s version, Michael Jackson helped out on backing vocals, and the song’s central riff does sound awfully similar (albeit faster) to the iconic bass riff on Jackson’s hit single “Billie Jean.” It should also be noted that, last year, Jones won a lawsuit over a royalties dispute against Jackson’s estate. ” and “Billie Jean.” The notes don’t lie, man. He was as Machiavellian as they come. How so? Greedy, man. Greedy. “Don’t Stop ’Til You Get Enough” — Greg Phillinganes wrote the c sectionPhillinganes, an in-demand studio keyboardist, played on a handful of Jackson-Jones collaborations, including the 1979 album Off the Wall, from which “Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough” comes. . Michael should’ve given him 10 percent of the song. Wouldn’t do it. Paisley Park is in your heart
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| What’d you think when you first heard rock music? Rock ain’t nothing but a white version of rhythm and blues, motherfucker. You know, I met Paul McCartney when he was 21. What were your first impressions of the Beatles? That they were the worst musicians in the world. They were no-playing motherfuckers. Paul was the worst bass player I ever heard. And Ringo? Don’t even talk about it. I remember once we were in the studio with George Martin, and Ringo had taken three hours for a four-bar thing he was trying to fix on a song. He couldn’t get it. We said, “Mate, why don’t you get some lager and lime, some shepherd’s pie, and take an hour-and-a-half and relax a little bit.” So he did, and we called Ronnie Verrell, a jazz drummer. Ronnie came in for 15 minutes and tore it up. Ringo comes back and says, “George, can you play it back for me one more time?” So George did, and Ringo says, “That didn’t sound so bad.” And I said, “Yeah, motherfucker because it ain’t you.” Great guy, though. Paisley Park is in your heart
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Prince did as well. All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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alot of people mad at Q for telling these stories, and some calling him liar... but the man has seen and done it all...with anybody who's ever been anybody in the entertainment industry, in the last 50 years...at 84 years old, why would he be anything but honest?...he probably should be keeping this stuff to his self (for his own personal safety), but the shit he is saying is some compelling, and sometimes fascinating stuff...and its really nothing new with him, he's always been a diva...keep goin, Q |
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2freaky4church1 said: Prince did as well. they ALL did/do...Thats The Way Of The World...ask Maurice... |
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I really don't hear much of a similarity between "State Of Independence" and "Billie Jean".In any case,Quincy produced both songs so wouldn't that make him guilty of stealing the music? lol
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Funny, Michael himself thought that he had stolen the bassline of "Billie Jean" from Hall & Oates. He even apologized Hall personally, but Hall didn't think the basslines were even nearly the same. | |
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Quincy is stretching the truth. I could’ve sworn hall & oats said MJ said he borrowed from them in BJ and they said fine, because borrowed from somewhere else. Greg P discussed the issue with DSTYGE. He added a small section, hence the 10% Quincy mentioned. Greg was compensated but just not with publishing as a writer. He didn’t seem bitter about it. He is always so negative when it comes to MJ. I’m sure there were some nice stories he could e shared | |
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Overall it was a pretty vicious interview (trashing alot of people except his good buddy Cosby )...Also have you noticed that most of the people he has trashed are dead and can't defend themselves? I wonder if it's aged related? Quincy reminds me of my grandfather who is 86, by the way he has been behaving lately....Very sad indeed.
[Edited 2/7/18 10:54am] [Edited 2/7/18 11:42am] [Edited 2/7/18 11:47am] Keep Calm & Listen To Prince | |
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I also have noticed that most of the people he has been so candid about in these two interviews are no longer alive to confirm or deny his verison of events concerning circumstances that were mentioned. It's cowardly. Quincy Jones is beyond legendary as a composer, arranger, producer and overall music impresario and many of his takes on music-particularly the roots of rock 'n roll I agree with. But I take many of his recollections involving his interpersonal relationships from Marvin Gaye, Richard Pryor, Prince etc. I take with a grain of salt. I don't know if he's lying as much as exaggerating. 3121 #1 THIS YEAR | |
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@mikesmallcombe1 3h3 hours ago There’s a very telling interview here, in which Jon Anderson says Michael and Quincy Jones listened to his album together, and took inspiration. Yet Q is blaming Michael solely. Jon Anderson on how Vangelis album inspired Thriller http://teamrock.com/news/...d-thriller Exclusive: Jon Anderson recalls Michael Jackson producer copying Friends Of Mr Cairo riffs Jon Anderson has recalled how the 1981 album The Friends Of Mr Cairo which he produced with composer Vangelis inspired Michael Jackson's smash hit album Thriller. The former Yes man claims that producer Quincy Jones told him that he and Jackson took a guitar riff from the record and "made it funky" for the 1982 hit Billie Jean. Anderson tells the new issue of Prog magazine: "The luck of the draw, I met Vangelis – a very different kind of musician, who started the trend of electronic music. Over the 80s we were evolving musically, not thinking about what was hip or what was good business. "There's my classic story of how we inspired Michael Jackson's Thriller. Quincy Jones told me that he and Michael had been listening to our album, The Friends Of Mr Cairo. "They took the riff and made it funky for Billie Jean. Quincy said he'd been recording our song State Of Independence with Donna Summer, and I said he had an incredible guy singing backing vocals. "He said, 'That guy was Michael – we were both digging your album.' So that's kinda cool, that cross-pollination in music." Jon Anderson will be presented with the Prog God prize the 2016 Progressive Music Awards, held at London's Underglobe venue on September 1. [Edited 2/7/18 15:21pm] Keep Calm & Listen To Prince | |
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I have no issue with honesty, but he's sounding increasingly bitter and insulting in recent interviews. Dare I say, cantankerous? | |
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I can't stand Quincy and messy self. As far the music, that much isn't of a secret considering MJ has made many statements on where he gets his beats and stuff from.
Examples such as: Billie Jean, Can't let her get away, Butterflies, She's got it, etc.
Nothing is really original, the creativity kicks in to show where can you take it or make out of it. Like I adored JT when he first made his solo career and yeah I saw the similarties in the dance moves, falsettos, and the hard hitting Timberland beats but they were forgivable because he seemed to be genuine. My only problem steems from the fact that he loves to play victim instead of facing the very same heat the artist he is inspired from instead of defending them.
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OperatingThetan said: I have no issue with honesty, but he's sounding increasingly bitter and insulting in recent interviews.
Dare I say, cantankerous? And vile with a selective memory. Someone needs to tell Quincy that Vitiligo was listed in MJ''s Autopsy Report! [Edited 2/7/18 12:37pm] Keep Calm & Listen To Prince | |
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QueenofPurplePalace said: I can't stand Quincy and messy self. As far the music, that much isn't of a secret considering MJ has made many statements on where he gets his beats and stuff from.
Examples such as: Billie Jean, Can't let her get away, Butterflies, She's got it, etc.
Nothing is really original, the creativity kicks in to show where can you take it or make out of it. Like I adored JT when he first made his solo career and yeah I saw the similarties in the dance moves, falsettos, and the hard hitting Timberland beats but they were forgivable because he seemed to be genuine. My only problem steems from the fact that he loves to play victim instead of facing the very same heat the artist he is inspired from instead of defending them.
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Grumpy old man. Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right? |
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About ten years ago I was talking to a radio veteran who worked closely with Michael. He told me then that Michael had stolen several of his hit songs and basically received credit for other people's work. I didn't want to believe it. Hmmm... | |
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thesoulbrother said: About ten years ago I was talking to a radio veteran who worked closely with Michael. He told me then that Michael had stolen several of his hit songs and basically received credit for other people's work. I didn't want to believe it. Hmmm... Who is this person? Where are they getting it from? He probably heard it from Quincy. The only songs where the credits are funny are DSTYGE- Greg wrote a C section which is why Quincy says 10%. But outside of that the demo can be heard online Stranger in Moscow- No proper demo has been released but brad forget his last name, comes up with more he help contribute to that song each time he tells the story Speed Demon- It was a horn section that apparently Jerry Hay didn’t get credited for but he was compensated. Outside of that where were people left off credits? There are some cases where on Invincible and Dangerous(teddy stuff) where he probably received writing credit as an exchange for him recording the songs. Moreso on Invincible than Dangerous. But where are these hits that he ‘stole’? I’m reading in another board that he helped write off the mask with Greg G but wasn’t credited. He should’ve gotten credit for you are not alone but didn’t. It works both ways. They posted this as well. Some who worked with Michael felt that having musicians execute his ideas was a form of cheating. One musician, who worked with Michael for over 15 years and will remain unnamed, said: “The problem with Michael is that he would often have musical secretaries. He would sit down with a musician and have them play parts he had in his head. If a musician played a certain part, Michael would then say, ‘No not like that’, and then when the musician played it differently, he would say, ‘Yeah like that, like that!’ On the musician’s part, this would sometimes be classed as writing.” Another musician, who also worked with Michael for over 15 years, shares a similar view. “Sometimes what musicians would do for Michael would border on writing. Michael would sing a note to a musician, and he would play a chord, sometimes making writing decisions without getting credited for it.” Matt Forger totally disagrees with this viewpoint. “These were situations where Michael worked with different people to help him realise his ideas; sometimes the people working with him contributed ideas as well,” he said. “It would have to be a case-by-case evaluation. I worked on many songs that Michael created from scratch. Others may have opinions of their own, but other people were not responsible for writing his hit songs. They may have played a part, but it was usually in support of him.” Bill Bottrell is also in Michael’s corner. “Michael was better than most at knowing the difference between writing and everything else that goes on,” he said. “We split our compositions clearly and fairly.” After the creation of a demo Michael would then take it to the main studio, such as Westlake, where the session musicians would record a final musical track. Michael would then add his vocals. After this, it was a case of sweetening the track before the engineers (usually Bruce Swedien) mixed it. | |
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@andjustice4some @MJJJusticePrjct @Mellie4Justice Quincy Jones got called out on being a thief on Soul Train around 23:34
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" don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r." |
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What's wrong with Quincy, He sound so bitter, so full of anger. | |
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got no time for little kid games is all
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Album plays and love for vinyl records. | |
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LOL Messy boots for no reason! I Just Came To Dance and Shade for Yall | |
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at his age, people have no filter and can be brutally honest and tactless...add to that, his notorious ego, and lifetime of successes... and the fact that he's most likely sensing his mortality... |
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barbara taylor Retweeted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2OCduKNdSQ … <- Greg explains how he was given arrangement credit and not the 10% composing initially agreed upon, in detail but keep listening he says "I maintained a relationship with him ..."so I lost out on one end but what I gained I don't think anyone can replace"
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. This is some cray-cray mofo!!
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Q claims Marlon Brando slept with a few folks, including Richard Pryor, Marvin Gaye, and James Baldwin. " don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r." |
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Darren HayesVerified account @darrenhayes 1 hour ago No disrespect to Quincy or Donna Summer - but MJ's Billie Jean might have a similar baseline to 'State of Independence' - but what MJ brought in terms of melody, lyrics and PERFORMANCE speaks for itself. A song is more than a bass line. There's a reason why Billie Jean is a hit. Darren HayesVerified account @darrenhayes 53 minutes ago Quincy Jones is an extraordinary talent, but one should never dismiss the sum of all parts of a collaboration. There is a reason the most commercially successful and historically significant album he produced is Thriller. Michael Jackson was a genius. They worked well together. Keep Calm & Listen To Prince | |
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