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Thread started 08/02/17 9:52am

CynicKill

Please She HAS To Tour!!!!

When it segues into "Mad" though...

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Reply #1 posted 08/02/17 10:44am

alphastreet

Love this lady!

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Reply #2 posted 08/02/17 11:20am

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I'd go.

“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
― T.S. Eliot
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Reply #3 posted 08/02/17 11:57am

NorthC

She does. She was at the North Sea Jazz Festival.
Don't ever lose your dreams.
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Reply #4 posted 08/02/17 12:42pm

Identity

Guess what? She's on tour now. smile

🈁 Redemption
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Reply #5 posted 08/02/17 5:32pm

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Hollywood Bowl, this year. I think I can make it.

“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
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“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
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Reply #6 posted 08/02/17 7:46pm

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I just saw her at Chicago's Pitchfork. Amazing show and new album. I think she would have gotten an invite to PP.

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Reply #7 posted 08/02/17 7:47pm

CynicKill

Identity said:

Guess what? She's on tour now. smile

Yeah I know. It's festivals though.

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Reply #8 posted 08/02/17 10:21pm

mjscarousal

Her brand is more interesting than Beyonce's but Solange is also overrated and I'm beginning to believe her brand is contrived, some of her videos seem like she was copying Erykah Badu and performances were try hard to me. That Cradles album won a Grammy but Solange didn't write nor compose any of the songs and I didn't think the overall album was as good as her previous "True" album. I applaud her for collaborating with creative artists and songwriters, however, there are plenty of other singers that are doing what solange "tries" to imitate. She gets called a genius and innovator because she is Beyonce's sister when she is quite generic herself. I personally think Janelle Monae is far more talented, authentic, and interesting than Solange, ArchAndroid is a classic and Electric Lady was great and she didn't get anything for those albums. Even Erykah Badu who she copies is more talented. It's interesting that solange copies these artists but these artists still get overlooked. She does have a pretty voice though and I like some of her songs on True. I would pay to see her in a festival line up with other acts on the bill, definitly not by herself.
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Reply #9 posted 08/03/17 7:53am

CynicKill

mjscarousal said:

Her brand is more interesting than Beyonce's but Solange is also overrated and I'm beginning to believe her brand is contrived, some of her videos seem like she was copying Erykah Badu and performances were try hard to me. That Cradles album won a Grammy but Solange didn't write nor compose any of the songs and I didn't think the overall album was as good as her previous "True" album. I applaud her for collaborating with creative artists and songwriters, however, there are plenty of other singers that are doing what solange "tries" to imitate. She gets called a genius and innovator because she is Beyonce's sister when she is quite generic herself. I personally think Janelle Monae is far more talented, authentic, and interesting than Solange, ArchAndroid is a classic and Electric Lady was great and she didn't get anything for those albums. Even Erykah Badu who she copies is more talented. It's interesting that solange copies these artists but these artists still get overlooked. She does have a pretty voice though and I like some of her songs on True. I would pay to see her in a festival line up with other acts on the bill, definitly not by herself.

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1. "Rise"
Written by Solange Knowles
Produced by Solange Knowles, Questlove, Ray Angry, Magical Cloudz & Raphael Saadiq
Additional Bass: Raphael Saadiq
Additional Synth: Sir Dylan & Patrick Wimberly
Additional Vocals: Raphael Saadiq

2. "Weary"
Written by Solange Knowles
Produced by Raphael Saadiq, Solange Knowles & Sir Dylan
Additional Vocals: Tweet
Tweet appears courtesy of eOne Music

3." Interlude: The Glory Is In You" f. Master P
Produced by Raphael Saadiq, Solange Knowles & Sir Dylan

4. "Cranes In The Sky"
Written by Solange Knowles
Produced by Raphael Saadiq & Solange Knowles
Synths: John Kirby & Rogét Chahayed
Additional Synth Editing: Adam Bainbridge

5. "Interlude: Dad Was Mad" f. Matthew Knowles
Produced by Solange Knowles, Dave Longstreth, Raphael Saadiq & Sir Dylan

6. "Mad" f. Lil Wayne
Written by Solange Knowles & Lil Wayne Produced by Solange Knowles, Dave Longstreth, Raphael Saadiq & Sir Dylan
Additional Vocals: The Dream, Moses Sumney and Tweet
Lil Wayne appears courtesy of Cash Money Records

7. "Don't You Wait"
Written by Solange Knowles
Produced by Solange Knowles, Olubenga, Dave Longstreth, Sampha, Troy Johnson, Kwes & Adam Bainbridge
Guitar: Adam Bainbridge & Dave Longstreth
Bass: Olubenga, Patrick Wimberly & Troy Johnson
Additional Vocals: Olubenga

8. "Interlude: Tina Taught Me" f. Tina Knowles
Produced by Sampha, Solange Knowles, Dave Andrew Sitek, Patrick Wimberly & Bryndon Cook

9. "Don't Touch My Hair" f. Sampha
Written by Solange Knowles
Sampha hook written by Sampha Sisay
Produced by Sampha, Solange Knowles, Dave Andrew Sitek, Patrick Wimberly & Bryndon Cook
Additional Bass: Raphael Saadiq & Bryndon Cook
Trumpet & Flugelhorn: Todd Simon
Saxophone: Sam Robles
Additional Cowbell: Bryndon Cook
Sampha courtesy of Young Turks

10. "Interlude: This Moment" f. Master P, Kelsey Lu, Sampha & Devonte Hynes
Produced by Adam Bainbridge & Solange Knowles

11. "Where Do We Go"
Written by Solange Knowles
Produced by Solange Knowles, Raphael Saadiq, Sean Nicholas Savage, Patrick Wimberly, Kwes & Sir Dylan
Additional Vocals: Sean Nicholas Savage
Sean Nicholas Savage appears courtesy of Arbutus Records

Important stuff ahead.
The FADER Newsletter.

12. "Interlude: For Us By Us" f. Master P
Produced by John Kirby & Solange Knowles

13." F.U.B.U." f. The Dream & BJ The Chicago Kid
Written by Solange Knowles
The Dream verse written by Terius Nash
Produced by Solange Knowles & Dave Longstreth
Piano, Organ & Shaker: Rostam Batmanglij
Additional Horn production: Rostam Batmanglij
Additional vocals: Tweet
The Dream appears courtesy of Roc Nation Records
BJ The Chicago Kid appears courtesy of Motown Records, a division of UMG Recordings, Inc.
Tweet appears courtesy of eOne Records

14. "Borderline (An Ode To Self Care)" f. Q-Tip
Written by Solange Knowles
Produced by Q-Tip For Abstract Productions & Solange Knowles
Keyboards & Drums: Q-Tip Guitar: Chris Sholar
Bass: Josh David
Additional Bass: Raphael Saadiq Keyboards: Casey Benjamin
Piano: John Kirby
Q-Tip appears courtesy of Epic Records
Contains a portion of the composition “More Than A Woman”, written by Stephen Garrett and Tim Mosley, published by Reservoir Media Music/Black Fountain Music/Herbilicious Music/Reservoir Media Management, Inc. (ASCAP) and WB Music Corp.(ASCAP).

15. "Interlude: I Got So Much Magic, You Can Have It" f. Kelly Rowland & Nia Andrews

16. "Junie"
Written by Solange Knowles
Produced by Raphael Saadiq, Solange Knowles & John Kirby
Synths: John Kirby

17. "Interlude: No Limits" f.Master P
Produced by John Kirby & Solange

18. "Don't Wish Me Well"
Written by Solange Knowles
Produced by Solange Knowles, Sampha, Dave Longstreth, Kwes & Adam Bainbridge

19. "Interlude: Pedestals" f. Master P
Produced by Solange Knowles
Piano: Solange Knowles

20. "Scales" f. Kelela
Written by Solange Knowles
Produced by Solange Knowles, Dave Longstreth, Kwes & Patrick Wimberly
Additional Vocal Editing: Adam Bainbridge

21. "Closing: The Chosen Ones" f. Master P
Produced by Solange Knowles & Troy Johnson

Recording Engineers: Mikaelin ‘Blue’ BlueSpruce, Nino Villanueva & Troy Johnson
Additional Recording Engineers: Steve Rusch, Bobby Campbell, Hotae Alexander Jang, Victor Wainstein, Ken Oriole, Jake Aron, Thayod Ayusar, Blair Wells, & Gloria Kaba
Mixed by Mikaelin ‘Blue’ BlueSpruce @ Lounge Studios, NY, NY Mastered by Dave Kutch @ The Mastering Palace, NY, NY
Assisted by Kevin Peterson @ The Mastering Palace, NY, NY

http://www.thefader.com/2...seat-table

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Reply #10 posted 08/03/17 12:37pm

mjscarousal

I stand corrected.

She is still overrated to me and not better than Janelle Monae or Erykah who she bites a lot of hers style from.

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Reply #11 posted 08/03/17 2:34pm

Identity

CynicKill said:

Identity said:

Guess what? She's on tour now. smile

Yeah I know. It's festivals though.



Yes. She only plans to perform at festivals and museums.

🈁 Redemption
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Reply #12 posted 08/03/17 7:46pm

CynicKill

mjscarousal said:

I stand corrected.

She is still overrated to me and not better than Janelle Monae or Erykah who she bites a lot of hers style from.

You could be right about all of that, but the simple fact is that Solange put out the album that stuck. Call it timing, or leaning heavily on her influences, but she spent a long time on it and I think the attention, focus, clear vision and sense of self shows in the final product.

It's an exceptional album. It might not be everyone's cup of tea but I think you're underrating her because she's Beyonce's sister.

I used to do the same thing.

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Reply #13 posted 08/03/17 8:18pm

1contessa

Sorry, but is it because she's Beyonce's sister? Her voice is not very good or strong.

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Reply #14 posted 08/05/17 5:41am

Dasein

mjscarousal said:

I stand corrected.

She is still overrated to me and not better than Janelle Monae or Erykah who she bites a lot of hers style from.


How is Solange Knowles overrated? You have to show us what the standard is, and then show us
how she is being unfairly and unjustly rated as exceeding that standard.

And, what from Janelle Monae's and Erykah Badu's artistic lineage can you trace directly to Sol-
ange so that she is not using the same standards but "bit{ing} a lot of her hers {sic} style from"?

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Reply #15 posted 08/05/17 5:59am

mjscarousal

CynicKill said:



mjscarousal said:


I stand corrected.



She is still overrated to me and not better than Janelle Monae or Erykah who she bites a lot of hers style from.



You could be right about all of that, but the simple fact is that Solange put out the album that stuck. Call it timing, or leaning heavily on her influences, but she spent a long time on it and I think the attention, focus, clear vision and sense of self shows in the final product.


It's an exceptional album. It might not be everyone's cup of tea but I think you're underrating her because she's Beyonce's sister.


I used to do the same thing.



No it's actually the other way around. She is overrated because she IS Beyonce sister. There are much better artists that put out much more creative music, have stronger voices, and better artists that will never win a Grammy because there not Beyonce's sister. ArchAndroid and Electriclady is better than anything Solange has done and they did not win any Grammys. Solange copies from a lot of artists (that are underrated)and tries too hard to be different and it doesn't come off genuine sometimes, again I applaud her for trying to be creative with her music but I don't think any of it is Grammy worthy.

Not sure why you say I'm underrating her when I gave her credit where it was due but there are definitely much more talented singers and artists that don't get the attention/ accolades she receives simply because she is Beyonce's sister, which is the only reason why she won that Grammy.
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Reply #16 posted 08/05/17 9:47am

Dasein

^

But, how are those albums better than the one Solange put out?

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Reply #17 posted 08/05/17 9:51am

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mjscarousal said:

CynicKill said:

You could be right about all of that, but the simple fact is that Solange put out the album that stuck. Call it timing, or leaning heavily on her influences, but she spent a long time on it and I think the attention, focus, clear vision and sense of self shows in the final product.

It's an exceptional album. It might not be everyone's cup of tea but I think you're underrating her because she's Beyonce's sister.

I used to do the same thing.

No it's actually the other way around. She is overrated because she IS Beyonce sister. There are much better artists that put out much more creative music, have stronger voices, and better artists that will never win a Grammy because there not Beyonce's sister. ArchAndroid and Electriclady is better than anything Solange has done and they did not win any Grammys. Solange copies from a lot of artists (that are underrated)and tries too hard to be different and it doesn't come off genuine sometimes, again I applaud her for trying to be creative with her music but I don't think any of it is Grammy worthy. Not sure why you say I'm underrating her when I gave her credit where it was due but there are definitely much more talented singers and artists that don't get the attention/ accolades she receives simply because she is Beyonce's sister, which is the only reason why she won that Grammy.

Well, you already made up your mind not to like her. Even presuming she didn't write AND produce her own album. If you like those albums so much keep listening but you don't have to discredit Solange. I didn't expect to get into her because of the B connection, but I'm glad I put that aside. She has delivered one of the best albums I've heard in a long time. I'm glad she is so young now that she can give us (that want it) even more great music. I love Badu since '97 and I like Janelle but your out of touch to think she is biting them. She deserves the attention and alcolades coming her way.

When have those two delivered something like this (tell me please):

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mjscarousal

^ No that is not going to work. I objectively gave her credit where it is due but no she is not a Mozart like some of you are making. I said that I thought Solange had a pretty voice (I prefer her singing over Beyonce); and even said I would see her live (of course with other acts on the bill) and I lsaid her brand is interesting and I liked some of her songs from her previous album. I actually prefer her over Beyonce, HOWEVER, I can't help but feel that some of her brand is heavily contrived and copied from other artists. I stand by Janelle, Erykah and others like Jaziman are better songwriters and artists than her but unfornately are overlooked because they are not Beyonce's little sister. I have been objective in this discussion. This site has some weird fascination with the Knowles and act like there are no other contemporary talented female artists or singers that exist, its really REALLY weird. eek nuts I think its absurd to suggest that Solange being the sister of Beyonce has nothing to do with the recent attention she has received. When I speak of accolades I am not just specifically referring to winning a grammy, I speaking of people calling her a genius, innovator and giving her titles for things and for music that she has heavily copied from others. Its a shame that artists like Janelle Monae are so criminally overlooked and hunny Janelle has made far better music and performances than the above but if its good for you than be happy. This is MY opinion.

[Edited 8/6/17 5:00am]

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Reply #19 posted 08/06/17 4:37am

mjscarousal

1contessa said:

Sorry, but is it because she's Beyonce's sister? Her voice is not very good or strong.

Her voice is not very strong but she has a pretty tone but yea I agree she gets a lot of attention because of the Beyonce connection, her music is no different from the artist she copies.

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Reply #20 posted 08/06/17 10:38am

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mjscarousal said:

^ No that is not going to work. I objectively gave her credit where it is due but no she is not a Mozart like some of you are making. I said that I thought Solange had a pretty voice (I prefer her singing over Beyonce); and even said I would see her live (of course with other acts on the bill) and I lsaid her brand is interesting and I liked some of her songs from her previous album. I actually prefer her over Beyonce, HOWEVER, I can't help but feel that some of her brand is heavily contrived and copied from other artists. I stand by Janelle, Erykah and others like Jaziman are better songwriters and artists than her but unfornately are overlooked because they are not Beyonce's little sister. I have been objective in this discussion. This site has some weird fascination with the Knowles and act like there are no other contemporary talented female artists or singers that exist, its really REALLY weird. eek nuts I think its absurd to suggest that Solange being the sister of Beyonce has nothing to do with the recent attention she has received. When I speak of accolades I am not just specifically referring to winning a grammy, I speaking of people calling her a genius, innovator and giving her titles for things and for music that she has heavily copied from others. Its a shame that artists like Janelle Monae are so criminally overlooked and hunny Janelle has made far better music and performances than the above but if its good for you than be happy. This is MY opinion.

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I think I get you now, I wouldn't exaggerate about her talents or calling her a genius or anything. I think she's great and I enjoy her. I listen to plenty of other music to not get to hung up on her. When you've listened to Prince for years it sets a standard for other things. Prince's music is the work of genius.

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Reply #21 posted 08/07/17 5:26am

mjscarousal

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mjscarousal said:

^ No that is not going to work. I objectively gave her credit where it is due but no she is not a Mozart like some of you are making. I said that I thought Solange had a pretty voice (I prefer her singing over Beyonce); and even said I would see her live (of course with other acts on the bill) and I lsaid her brand is interesting and I liked some of her songs from her previous album. I actually prefer her over Beyonce, HOWEVER, I can't help but feel that some of her brand is heavily contrived and copied from other artists. I stand by Janelle, Erykah and others like Jaziman are better songwriters and artists than her but unfornately are overlooked because they are not Beyonce's little sister. I have been objective in this discussion. This site has some weird fascination with the Knowles and act like there are no other contemporary talented female artists or singers that exist, its really REALLY weird. eek nuts I think its absurd to suggest that Solange being the sister of Beyonce has nothing to do with the recent attention she has received. When I speak of accolades I am not just specifically referring to winning a grammy, I speaking of people calling her a genius, innovator and giving her titles for things and for music that she has heavily copied from others. Its a shame that artists like Janelle Monae are so criminally overlooked and hunny Janelle has made far better music and performances than the above but if its good for you than be happy. This is MY opinion.

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I think I get you now, I wouldn't exaggerate about her talents or calling her a genius or anything. I think she's great and I enjoy her. I listen to plenty of other music to not get to hung up on her. When you've listened to Prince for years it sets a standard for other things. Prince's music is the work of genius.

You were exaggerating Solange talents when you said "when have these two (Badu and Janelle ) delivered something like this" and posted that video. Badu has a TON of similiar songs and has made similiar videos and performances and a bunch of other Neo soul artists like Floetry have done the same thing. The statement implied Solange invented this particular style of music which is false and that is why I reacted the way I did. If you like her that is fine but she is not making music that is original or innovative and her brand is heavily copied from much much underrated artists. That was just my only point.

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Dasein

HAhahahahahah!

You're a fraud, and you know it.

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Never really cared much for Solange before her last project, but it won a grammy and received the critical acclaim it did for good reason. Call it the timing if you'd like, but the content of the album, combined with the pain many of us were/are feeling from the killing of unarmed black men and women, resonated with people. I wouldn't trip over the grammy anyway. Janelle's album has been nominated and lost. Solange only got nominated for best video.

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CynicKill

Dakarai said:

Never really cared much for Solange before her last project, but it won a grammy and received the critical acclaim it did for good reason. Call it the timing if you'd like, but the content of the album, combined with the pain many of us were/are feeling from the killing of unarmed black men and women, resonated with people. I wouldn't trip over the grammy anyway. Janelle's album has been nominated and lost. Solange only got nominated for best video.

Solange took home her first Grammy, joining sister Beyoncé in the gold trophy party

Singer Solange Knowles, winner of best R&B performance for "Cranes in the Sky," poses in the press room during The 59th Grammy Awards at Staples Center on Sunday in Los Angeles.. (Allen J. Schaben / Los Angeles Times) Singer Solange Knowles, winner of best R&B; performance for "Cranes in the Sky," poses in the press room during The 59th Grammy Awards at Staples Center on Sunday in Los Angeles.. (Allen J. Schaben / Los Angeles Times)

Solange Knowles finally (and deservedly) joined her sister
Beyoncé as a Grammy winner Sunday night, taking home her first trophy for R&B; performance for “Cranes in the Sky.”

“Honestly, I feel like I won a long time ago because of all of the connectivity this album has had, particularly with black women,” Knowles said backstage in the press room.

Knowles mentioned she had written “Cranes in the Sky” eight years ago, but it kept getting pushed aside. Taken from her breakthrough album “A Seat at the Table,” the song put Knowles in the pantheon of artists unafraid to address politics and social justice in their work.

“All that we can do as artists, especially as a songwriter, is to write about the truth,” she said, adding that Nina Simone and Marvin Gaye have been touchstones for her.

“I’m grateful to those artists because it’s not easy to do that,” she said, “but we’re not doing anything new.”

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Dakarai said:

Never really cared much for Solange before her last project, but it won a grammy and received the critical acclaim it did for good reason.

Milli Vanilli also won a Grammy

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Reply #26 posted 08/07/17 10:10am

Dakarai

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CynicKill said:

Dakarai said:

Never really cared much for Solange before her last project, but it won a grammy and received the critical acclaim it did for good reason. Call it the timing if you'd like, but the content of the album, combined with the pain many of us were/are feeling from the killing of unarmed black men and women, resonated with people. I wouldn't trip over the grammy anyway. Janelle's album has been nominated and lost. Solange only got nominated for best video.

Solange took home her first Grammy, joining sister Beyoncé in the gold trophy party

Singer Solange Knowles, winner of best R&B performance for "Cranes in the Sky," poses in the press room during The 59th Grammy Awards at Staples Center on Sunday in Los Angeles.. (Allen J. Schaben / Los Angeles Times)Singer Solange Knowles, winner of best R&B; performance for "Cranes in the Sky," poses in the press room during The 59th Grammy Awards at Staples Center on Sunday in Los Angeles..(Allen J. Schaben / Los Angeles Times)

Solange Knowles finally (and deservedly) joined her sister
Beyoncé as a Grammy winner Sunday night, taking home her first trophy for R&B; performance for “Cranes in the Sky.”

“Honestly, I feel like I won a long time ago because of all of the connectivity this album has had, particularly with black women,” Knowles said backstage in the press room.

Knowles mentioned she had written “Cranes in the Sky” eight years ago, but it kept getting pushed aside. Taken from her breakthrough album “A Seat at the Table,” the song put Knowles in the pantheon of artists unafraid to address politics and social justice in their work.

“All that we can do as artists, especially as a songwriter, is to write about the truth,” she said, adding that Nina Simone and Marvin Gaye have been touchstones for her.

“I’m grateful to those artists because it’s not easy to do that,” she said, “but we’re not doing anything new.”

Video, performance, same thing lol. That category is so pointless it isn't even shown live. Janelle at least got one for her album.

Vgeer said:

Dakarai said:

Never really cared much for Solange before her last project, but it won a grammy and received the critical acclaim it did for good reason.

Milli Vanilli also won a Grammy

I think we all know the grammys are a popularity contest...which brings me back to my original statement(which I noticed you cut half of it off). The album resonated with people throughout the remainder of that year and leading into 2017. It was extremely popular and even debuted at #1. Hence why it was nominated.

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Reply #27 posted 08/07/17 10:43am

mjscarousal

Dakarai said:

Never really cared much for Solange before her last project, but it won a grammy and received the critical acclaim it did for good reason. Call it the timing if you'd like, but the content of the album, combined with the pain many of us were/are feeling from the killing of unarmed black men and women, resonated with people. I wouldn't trip over the grammy anyway. Janelle's album has been nominated and lost. Solange only got nominated for best video.



You call it reasonating, I call it taking advantage of what is popularly accepted. Because when Trayvon Martin got shot and Michael Brown, Beyonce Solange Jay Z did not say NOT one thing about it until it became popularly accepted and safe too.

The fact of the matter is the Archandroid was the best album in its category (far better than Solange 2.0 badu rip off album) whenit was nominated but did not win because Janelle is not Beyonce's sister.

The Knowles have been apart of that good boy network at the Grammy committee. Matthew was on the committee for all those years when he was managing Beyonce that is why she has all those Grammys. I think y'all are being extremely naive if you believe Solange won solely on the merit of the album.

I think they gave Solange that Grammy to smooth it over with Beyonce losing to album of the year.
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Reply #28 posted 08/07/17 10:53am

mjscarousal

Dakarai said:



CynicKill said:




Dakarai said:


Never really cared much for Solange before her last project, but it won a grammy and received the critical acclaim it did for good reason. Call it the timing if you'd like, but the content of the album, combined with the pain many of us were/are feeling from the killing of unarmed black men and women, resonated with people. I wouldn't trip over the grammy anyway. Janelle's album has been nominated and lost. Solange only got nominated for best video.



Solange took home her first Grammy, joining sister Beyoncé in the gold trophy party



Singer Solange Knowles, winner of best R&B performance for "Cranes in the Sky," poses in the press room during The 59th Grammy Awards at Staples Center on Sunday in Los Angeles.. (Allen J. Schaben / Los Angeles Times)Singer Solange Knowles, winner of best R&B; performance for "Cranes in the Sky," poses in the press room during The 59th Grammy Awards at Staples Center on Sunday in Los Angeles..(Allen J. Schaben / Los Angeles Times)

Solange Knowles finally (and deservedly) joined her sister
Beyoncé as a Grammy winner Sunday night, taking home her first trophy for R&B; performance for “Cranes in the Sky.”


“Honestly, I feel like I won a long time ago because of all of the connectivity this album has had, particularly with black women,” Knowles said backstage in the press room.


Knowles mentioned she had written “Cranes in the Sky” eight years ago, but it kept getting pushed aside. Taken from her breakthrough album “A Seat at the Table,” the song put Knowles in the pantheon of artists unafraid to address politics and social justice in their work.


“All that we can do as artists, especially as a songwriter, is to write about the truth,” she said, adding that Nina Simone and Marvin Gaye have been touchstones for her.


“I’m grateful to those artists because it’s not easy to do that,” she said, “but we’re not doing anything new.”



Video, performance, same thing lol. That category is so pointless it isn't even shown live. Janelle at least got one for her album.





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Dakarai said:


Never really cared much for Solange before her last project, but it won a grammy and received the critical acclaim it did for good reason.




Milli Vanilli also won a Grammy



I think we all know the grammys are a popularity contest...which brings me back to my original statement(which I noticed you cut half of it off). The album resonated with people throughout the remainder of that year and leading into 2017. It was extremely popular and even debuted at #1. Hence why it was nominated.




"Extremely popular" that's an exaggeration. It went to number one because the RIAA counts streams. It sold 46,000 in pure sales but RIAA added streams which bumped it to 72,000 (to make it go to number one)but the album hasn't sold a lot I don't think it has sold over 200,000 and it did not produce any hits. We won't be talking about Solanges album next year or in 10 years but we will still be talking about Janelle and Erykahs albums, fuq the Grammys seriously.
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Dakarai said:

Never really cared much for Solange before her last project, but it won a grammy and received the critical acclaim it did for good reason. Call it the timing if you'd like, but the content of the album, combined with the pain many of us were/are feeling from the killing of unarmed black men and women, resonated with people. I wouldn't trip over the grammy anyway. Janelle's album has been nominated and lost. Solange only got nominated for best video.

You call it reasonating, I call it taking advantage of what is popularly accepted. Because when Trayvon Martin got shot and Michael Brown, Beyonce Solange Jay Z did not say NOT one thing about it until it became popularly accepted and safe too. The fact of the matter is the Archandroid was the best album in its category (far better than Solange 2.0 badu rip off album) whenit was nominated but did not win because Janelle is not Beyonce's sister. The Knowles have been apart of that good boy network at the Grammy committee. Matthew was on the committee for all those years when he was managing Beyonce that is why she has all those Grammys. I think y'all are being extremely naive if you believe Solange won solely on the merit of the album. I think they gave Solange that Grammy to smooth it over with Beyonce losing to album of the year.

Whether her intentions were real or not isn't my point. The point is, the people enjoyed the album and it resonated with them because of the times and content of the music. That can't be argued.

Furthermore, I don't agree with the Billboard charts or any of that shit now days mostly due to the streaming stuff. I don't like seeing folks like Nicki talking about breaking Aretha's record because the game is so much easiest now days, but that's besides the point. The album still debuted at #1. The numbers it did are actually GOOD by 2017 standards. You know very few artists are consistently debuting at 100k+ sold. And again, the people loved it. Black folks across social media sites were raving about it. As I said, I have never cared for her, but the massive amount of attention she got made me want to check the album out. It also made many end of year best album lists with tons of publications. So I don't think i'm over-exaggerating at all. This album had the popularity necessary to carry it over into being nominated during award season.

You think Solange won that pointless performance award because Beyonce lost out? Not at all. If anything, Solanage was SNUBBED at the grammy's. The album itself deserved to be nominated as opposed to just a song considering the other albums that received nominaitons. But I believe that because of the content, she did not get a nomination for the album.

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