mjscarousal said:

Dakarai said:

Never really cared much for Solange before her last project, but it won a grammy and received the critical acclaim it did for good reason. Call it the timing if you'd like, but the content of the album, combined with the pain many of us were/are feeling from the killing of unarmed black men and women, resonated with people. I wouldn't trip over the grammy anyway. Janelle's album has been nominated and lost. Solange only got nominated for best video.

You call it reasonating, I call it taking advantage of what is popularly accepted. Because when Trayvon Martin got shot and Michael Brown, Beyonce Solange Jay Z did not say NOT one thing about it until it became popularly accepted and safe too. The fact of the matter is the Archandroid was the best album in its category (far better than Solange 2.0 badu rip off album) whenit was nominated but did not win because Janelle is not Beyonce's sister. The Knowles have been apart of that good boy network at the Grammy committee. Matthew was on the committee for all those years when he was managing Beyonce that is why she has all those Grammys. I think y'all are being extremely naive if you believe Solange won solely on the merit of the album. I think they gave Solange that Grammy to smooth it over with Beyonce losing to album of the year.

Whether her intentions were real or not isn't my point. The point is, the people enjoyed the album and it resonated with them because of the times and content of the music. That can't be argued.

Furthermore, I don't agree with the Billboard charts or any of that shit now days mostly due to the streaming stuff. I don't like seeing folks like Nicki talking about breaking Aretha's record because the game is so much easiest now days, but that's besides the point. The album still debuted at #1. The numbers it did are actually GOOD by 2017 standards. You know very few artists are consistently debuting at 100k+ sold. And again, the people loved it. Black folks across social media sites were raving about it. As I said, I have never cared for her, but the massive amount of attention she got made me want to check the album out. It also made many end of year best album lists with tons of publications. So I don't think i'm over-exaggerating at all. This album had the popularity necessary to carry it over into being nominated during award season.

You think Solange won that pointless performance award because Beyonce lost out? Not at all. If anything, Solanage was SNUBBED at the grammy's. The album itself deserved to be nominated as opposed to just a song considering the other albums that received nominaitons. But I believe that because of the content, she did not get a nomination for the album.

mjscarousal said:

Dakarai said:

Whether her intentions were real or not isn't my point. The point is, the people enjoyed the album and it resonated with them because of the times and content of the music. That can't be argued.

Furthermore, I don't agree with the Billboard charts or any of that shit now days mostly due to the streaming stuff. I don't like seeing folks like Nicki talking about breaking Aretha's record because the game is so much easiest now days, but that's besides the point. The album still debuted at #1. The numbers it did are actually GOOD by 2017 standards. You know very few artists are consistently debuting at 100k+ sold. And again, the people loved it. Black folks across social media sites were raving about it. As I said, I have never cared for her, but the massive amount of attention she got made me want to check the album out. It also made many end of year best album lists with tons of publications. So I don't think i'm over-exaggerating at all. This album had the popularity necessary to carry it over into being nominated during award season.

You think Solange won that pointless performance award because Beyonce lost out? Not at all. If anything, Solanage was SNUBBED at the grammy's. The album itself deserved to be nominated as opposed to just a song considering the other albums that received nominaitons. But I believe that because of the content, she did not get a nomination for the album.

I respect your opinion but I guess we can agree to disagree because statically her album was not massively popular (whether you agree with that or not it just wasn't) I think it's a bit naive to argue the album won solely off the merit of the album and her being Beyonce's sister had nothing to do with her nomination and win. There are albums that sell and go to number one but don't win a Grammy or get a nomination, just ask Rihanna. I still don't see how you believe her album reasonated with a lot of people when statistically it does not show that and looking at the pure sales of the album should be considered especially when you tout something as "massively popular" the numbers show it wasn't.

You're going off of the old days when albums used to sell hundreds of thousands in the first week and that was used as the primary metric of popularity. That's not how things work in 2017, you know that. Breaking 100k first week is an accomplishment now lol. I'm not arguing that it was nominated solely off the quality. That's why I told the other person to read my entire statement in it's context. Again, the grammys are mostly about popularity. Her album beat out a white act with two gold albums to land at #1, tons of publications had it on their album of the year lists at the #1 spot, and the word of mouth was so big online, several publications noted it. Sure, you can say her being Bey's sister had something to do with it, but she didn't even get a nomination for the album, just a song on the album. So yes, it was a good album and the popularity was certainly there. There were albums that were actually nominated that Solange out sold and out performed in reviews. You can't measure how much an album resonated with people on sales. Resonate only means that you find something important or meanigful to you. So yes, songs like "Don't Touch My Hair" might not be hit singles on the radio, but that song made a statement for black women everywhere. It's the same way with a lot of hip-hop. You have guys like Kendrick out here making meanigful music that sells well, but there are more artists who can't even crack 70k first week making great music with a message. But yes, we can agree to disagree. Good discussion as always.