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Steve Miller Is Not Happy And he's not afraid to tell someone. It's mostly about the RnR Hall of Fame, and the gangster mentality of the people who run it. This article is from Rolling Stone. While I don't know everything about the music industry, I know enough that this isn't surprising at all.
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Steve Miller's gripes against the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame — for which the rocker was inducted Friday night — extended past the podium into the backstage area later that night. "The whole process is unpleasant," Miller told reporters. "The whole process needs to be changed from the top to the bottom." Talking to Rolling Stone, Miller widened his targets, throwing barbs not just at the Rock Hall — though there were many choice words about that — but at his record label rep ("I wanted to pull him by his necktie and kick him in the nuts") and the industry in general. Was the Hall of Fame experience what you thought it would be?
In what way?
What do you mean by "amateur production"?
Tell me what you're working on.
What are you up to now?
Do you think about recording any new albums?
Really? This whole industry fucking sucks and this little get-together you guys have here is like a private boys' club and it's a bunch of jackasses and jerks and fucking gangsters and crooks who've fucking stolen everything from a fucking artist. Telling the artist to come out here and tap dance. I came out here for my fans. I came out for the people who take it seriously. And if the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame wants to be taken seriously, they need to put their books out in the public. They need to fucking become transparent. They need to stop lying. They need to stop all the bullshit and they need to clean it up and they need to expand it. They need to include a lot more people. And the most important thing is the fucking board of this organization really needs to enlarge their gene pool. I think you understand. " don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r." | |
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He's not the first music veteran who has voiced complaints about the record industry at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in recent years... "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Gene Simmons from Kiss is complaining that NWA should not be in because rap is not rock. All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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Gene, as usual, is talking out of his ass. RnR isn't about guitars, it's attitude, and bravado. And if anyone had attitude is was them.....guys from Compton.
Let's not forget NWA is the first non-rock band act to be inducted. Public Enemy, Donna Summer, Run-DMC, Abba, Madonna, Beastie Boys, and Miles Davis are a few that could be argued as not rock n' roll in genre. Like them or not, they've certainly moved & changed the music landscape.
I'm glad Ice shot back at Gene. Gene has long since needed to be put in his place. KISS is a parody of itself at this point. Same songs, same tricks, same gags. The drag, the blood, the solos, the flying guitar, the fireworks - it's so predictible. They have their place in history.
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at least steve miller holds nothing back | |
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He's got some valid points,but why waste time bitching about it? Now that he's inducted,he never really has to deal with the RRHOF ever again.Move on,do your concerts,make your money,please your fans and be happy. | |
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Yep. Gene Simmons needs a smack upside the head and leave NWA alone! Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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I can understand why people who had heavy fights with their labels would be kind of bitter about showing up to a night that's basically a big circle jerk for the industry. It is pretty weak to make the honored guests pay ten grand a head for very guest at the dinner though. Even playing my local dive bar we get like ten people in free when we're playing a show. | |
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The Executive Director of the RRHOF responded and TBH, Steve Miller sounds like the a-hole in this. At least, with respect to the RRHOF issues Miller brings up. | |
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Rock Hall President Responds to Steve Miller's Blistering Comments"For one night, look at it as a celebration of your legacy and how important you are to rock & roll," says Joel Peresman. "But you can't make people happy"
April 12, 2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame President Joel Peresman responds to Steve Miller's blistering comments about the Rock Hall.Dimitrios Kambouris/WireImage/Getty
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Most artists are pretty happy moments after their induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, but when Steve Miller came into the press room following his speech and performance, he was fuming with anger. He ripped the organization to shreds while addressing the press, and continued with his anger when speaking with Rolling Stone. We sat down with Rock and Roll Hall of Fame President and CEO Joel Peresman to hear his side of the story. . Prior to the evening of the ceremony, did you know that Steve Miller was upset? SIDEBARSteve Miller: This Whole ...' Sucks »I want to go through the things he said backstage. He said, "When they told me I was inducted, they said, 'You have two tickets - one for your wife and one for yourself. Want another one? It's $10,000 - sorry that's the way it goes.' What about my band? What about their wives? They make this so unpleasant." . . He said, "They need to respect the artists they say they're honoring, which they don't. I don't have any of my paperwork signed. I have no licensing agreements with these people. They're trying to steal footage. They're trying to make me indemnify them." . Do you know what he means by, "They're trying to steal footage?"
"I encourage the [Hall of Fame] to more inclusive of women." / "I encourage the Hall of Fame to be more transparent in your dealings with the public." . "The whole experience should be completely redesigned and become much more artist-friendly, starting from who you can invite, what you can do, how long you can play, what you can say. The whole thing is sort of an amateur production and doing this is harder than doing a 20-city tour." / I can't tell you the amount of thank you notes we got from people in Cheap Trick, Deep Purple, the guys in Chicago and N.W.A. They all sent e-mails saying how much they enjoyed the experience and they're glad they came. Some said they were embarrassed for the comments that Steve made. / Do you ever edit speeches? SIDEBARSampling Steve Miller Ban...s Guide »
"This whole industry fucking sucks and this little get-together you guys have here is kind of like a private boys club and it’s kind of a bunch of jackasses and jerks and fucking gangsters and crooks who've fucking stolen everything from a fucking artist, telling the artist to come out here and tap dance." / . "The most important thing is the fucking board of this organization really needs to enlarge their gene pool. I think you understand." . Are you disappointed and surprised about all this? . That's what we try and celebrate and overall we've tried to do that year after year. But at the end of the day, you can't make people happy. It's sad the overarching story is one person's unhappiness when he should have looked at the night as a celebration of his music and just gone from there. Watch Steve Miller blast the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame after being inducted.
"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Just sounds like a grumpy old man. Why bother attending if you disagree with it? It's only an awards ceremony, it's not that important in the grand scheme of things. 3121... Don't U Wanna Come? | |
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Unfortunately, I have heard this over and over "amateurish production" and "everyone is an asshole". Even Ice Cube said so much as why N.W.A. would not be performing at their induction. | |
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rlittler81 said: Just sounds like a grumpy old man. Why bother attending if you disagree with it? It's only an awards ceremony, it's not that important in the grand scheme of things. I agree.Steve Miller is turning into another Elton John....a bitter,grumpy old man.There are so many more important things in life to be pissed about. | |
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Black Keys: We Regret Inducting Steve Miller After Rock Hall Insults"He said, 'The whole process was unpleasant,'" Dan Auerbach says. "And for Pat and I, the most unpleasant part was being around him" | |
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Bruce Springsteen and Bryan Adams recently cancelled concerts in states that have new,discriminatory laws.They're taking a stand against things that matter.Steve Miller is whining about a stupid awards ceremony that lasted just a few hours,smh. | |
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Well, let's keep this in perspective, though. The ceremony is what was happening, and it's what he was asked about.
To our knowledge, he wasn't asked about Mississippi, or North Carolina, LGBTQA+ discrimination, or wherever bigotry is being legislated in the south. Nor do we know (or do we?) his stance on those situations.
He does have dates on July 16-17 in NC. Will he cancel those eventually? We shall see. " don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r." | |
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This article is quite interesting. It's always sort of disappointing when you hear about one of your favorites just ending up as a bitter dickhead. Was Steve having a bad night in general, and the RnRHOF was his whipping boy? I don't know. But with so much tenure and history in the business, and people somewhere are still buying tickets to see him sing the same songs over and over - he could be a bit more grateful. I don't want him to not live his truth, but is he really this cranky all the time?
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Black Keys frontman Dan Auerbach has had multiple "sleepless nights" since inducting Steve Miller into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame last Friday. Miller has become the unlikely focal point of the ceremony after calling the music industry "fuckin' gangsters and crooks" and lobbing verbal grenades at his record label rep ("I wanted to pull him by his necktie and kick him in the nuts") and the Hall of Fame itself ("Everybody is kind of a dick and an asshole.") But while many on social media have applauded the 72-year-old rocker's candor, Auerbach, who grew up a huge Miller fan, sees it differently. "He said, 'The whole process was unpleasant,'" Auerbach tells Rolling Stone. "And for [Black Keys drummer] Pat [Carney] and I, honestly, the most unpleasant part was being around him." The group left Barclays Center midway through Miller's performance and never came back. In an interview with Rolling Stone, the typically jovial Auerbach sounded despondent, using the word "disappointed" numerous times to describe his encounter with Miller and experience that night. For the first time in the Rock Hall's 30-year history, an artist has essentially recanted his induction speech, with the guitarist-singer, speaking on behalf of the group, wanting to explain his side of Friday night.
What do you think about what's happened the past four days? It was just a real eye-opener for us. Because as we get older, I hope that when I'm in my twilight years, I can look back and be grateful to the people who have appreciated me and to be able to give back. Because music is about sharing and passing on inspiration and that was his opportunity to do that; not just lashing out in a way that was just completely unfocused.
What was your initial reaction when you realized that he didn't know or care who you were? But we were there for the same reasons. Because we love music and because I felt like we had a connection just because I come from a place where I love blues music and so does he. And at least we had that connection, but that ended up not mattering in the end.
After he found out who you were, did he make any attempt before or after your speech to say anything to you?
You told Rolling Stone after the event, though, that you said, in response to him asking who you were, "That's why we love you. You don't pay attention to anything that's going on in the business."
Looking back on the whole event and its aftermath, do you regret accepting the invitation to induct him?
Was there anything he said to us or backstage that rang true?
Did you stick around after the induction to... That was the conversation like between you and Pat after you guys go offstage?
You know Pat and I, we don't do that kind of shit! We don't do speeches. We've never done a speech! We put ourselves out there to begin with. That's not our comfort zone. So we weren't wanted by him there, so we sure as fuck weren't going to hang around. That's about what it was like. Everybody at the Rock Hall was great. It's always so easy for a fucking artist to rag on a big institution. It really is. And a lot of times you have to do that and it's necessary. But me personally, the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame has only ever really brought me joy since I was a teenager! I used to go there with my dad [when] they would do workshops. They're responsible for a lot of really positive things in my life. So when they asked us to do this, as much as I wanted to do it for Steve Miller, I wanted to do it for the Rock Hall. Because it has been a form of inspiration for me. It really has. I don't care if it sounds corny or not, but they have been. It just all felt pretty terrible. You know what happens in this business, the longer Pat and I are in it? When you get wealthy, when you get famous, it doesn't change you. It only amplifies who you are deep down inside. If you're just a grumpy guy, then you're just an extra grumpy guy [laughs]. But we learned just as much from that as we do from meeting nice people.
So it was a "teachable moment." Yeah, of course! Of course. I just want to know that I can look back and be grateful to people and help people to be excited about music. I guess that's what it should have all been about. We were genuine fans and we didn't sugarcoat it! We didn't sugarcoat it! We definitely feel the connection because we were from the Midwest and we're making blues-based music. I don't know. It was just, I don't know. I just had a couple sleepless nights. He really disappointed us.
Anything else to add?
Would you induct someone again if asked? " don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r." | |
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Steve Miller was right in not acknowledging The Black Keys as they are a weak example of industry circlejerking and one of the most useless bands to emerge since Coldplay. They exist to "prove" that bands are relevant in the "industry" yet churn out album after album of filler. Ubiquitous nobodies. . I love Steve Miller more than I ever did after this rant. He knows he could record a slamming record, but whats the point when the 'recorded music industry' is a joke that backfires on its pioneers. If this were 90s P saying his truth you'd all be bowing down. Your music industry is in shambles, never to recover. Time for a new system. | |
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At least Ice Cube said something in his speech that writers could publish about. | |
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THIS RIGHT HERE!!!! Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman | |
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Preach | |
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"It's weird. He called the whole thing "a boys' club." The Steve Miller band has had 35 members and no women." | |
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getxxxx said:
THIS RIGHT HERE!!!! | |
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RodeoSchro said: "It's weird. He called the whole thing "a boys' club." The Steve Miller band has had 35 members and no women." Ouch,indeed I'm a huge fan of Steve Miller but I think he's overreacting | |
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He could have declined to show up like Johnny Rotten & the Sex Pistols. If the Hall knew anything about the group, they'd know that the Sex Pistols would not want to be in a museum anyway You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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my new hero steve miller and thesex pistols. fuck the hall of fame | |
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He was spot on about the industry, tho. Call him a cranky old man all you want, but he was speaking the truth about that. "It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
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In defense of the mono-gender criticism of the Steve Miller Band personnel over the years, Steve asked my very talented wife Diane Steinberg Lewis to join the band back in 1983 to play keyboards and sing but she had prior commitments.Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman | |
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You are such a prince of the pen among thieves and the disingenuous. Thanks for your righteous and profound words about our beloved Joker. Fuck the whining Black Keys. They will be day old bread by next decade. But The Joker will be playing in space stations into the next millennia like in Guardians of the Galaxies!
"He's Steve Miller and Dan Auerbach is not." Steve Miller acting like a rock and roll star at the rock and roll hall of fame and Dan Auerbach is acting like he's some kind of a bad, bad man for being rock and roll. Go fuck yourself, Dan.
Bwahhh!! It's an insult to Steve that the Hall asked two hipster stooges to introduce him.
SO glad you wrote this. 100% correct. These dudes were butt hurt that a legend didn't know who they were. Steve Miller achieved the status of master of freak flag psychedelic white blues by 1969, and he progressed, regressed, and kept on keepin' on for the next 46 years. More than likely, Black Keys will be forgotten within ten years, as their songs have very little (or in my opinion, no) longevity. They come across as entitled, pitiful, corporate lackeys in this article who appear eager to stroke the corporate dong. About as far away from rock n roll as one can get.[Edited 4/14/16 7:56am] Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman | |
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This is crazy Steve Miller should have just stayed home,lol. His induction into the RRHOF has been ruined by all of these ugly comments,accusations,finger-pointing and insults. | |
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