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Reply #60 posted 01/03/16 10:08pm

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SeventeenDayze said:

Pokeno4Money said:


They were saying the same thing in the 50's with Elvis and others.

And what about the drug-filled song titles and lyrics of the 60's and 70's?

Rolling Stones singing "Sister Morphine", Velvet Underground singing "Heroin", Eric Clapton signing "Cocaine", Jefferson Airplane's "White Rabbit" ... there was a tremendous amount of mainstream music pre-1980s that promoted drug use.

Everytime someone thinks that something was "the beginning", they need to look back a bit further. Nothing is as original as it appears to be.


Should we start a discussion about the prison-industrial complex and the propagation of criminal activity by record labels that push rap & hip-hop on young men?


Rap & hip-hop isn't pushed onto young men any more than heavy metal and grunge were, you can't force people to like a certain genre. Sure, rap music is promoted ... how is that any different from any other "product"? But if enough people don't like it, the product won't last.

Let's first start a discussion on Victim Mentality wink

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Reply #61 posted 01/04/16 4:47pm

SeventeenDayze

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I used to love rap back in the day, I was constantly ridiculed here in India for liking it, but I stuck to my guns.... but I absolutely HATE modern rap - they took something that was cool and fun and rebellious and made "dance music" out of it - absolutely AWFUL dance music......

There are still a few decent acts out there, just have to dig for it. But yes, there's been a shift from rap being focused on the lyrics to just now being focused on the hooks...Future, Fetty Wap, all those guys are an example of this trend.

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Reply #62 posted 01/05/16 7:12pm

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Adorecream said:



SeventeenDayze said:




Scorp said:






big difference because with the exploitation of Hip-Hop, antagonists found the perfect tool to degrade an entire genre of music, and afflict the minds of our youth as a whole for the past 3 decades wehre the way it's been presented, our youth have been misled to believe this music is a representation of our culture and our community and it's not





Amen to that! Completely agree!



Maybe guys, but all this 1960s/1970s drug music was by established performers aimed at audience who liked to toke in some cases at the time. Drugs in the 1967 - 1977 period were almost acceptable.


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Plus most intelligent people knew these white acts, were part of the hippie/rock subculture and not representative of the white race and its musical output in general. These same people however can not do that discrimination with the Black race.


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Trap rap and rap dance songs are the only rap songs that hit the charts, very few R and B or Jazz songs hit these charts, or conscious and positive rap like Nas and Common, just "I'm going to fuck this nigga/bitch" shit. Many older White people and even other races, listen to this music and honestly think it is representative of all black people, as the music is most publicly shown is this coon ass rap shit. They guys wear gold chains, grills, jump around in silly clothes and mumble and speak in illiterate babble most of the time. There are usually references to drugs, killing people, buying expensive cars and clothes, spreading cash and singing about getting stoned and drunk.


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"This music has desensitised us a human beings, we are no longer black men and women, we are niggas and bitches" - Voridire92 on Youtube - Video the Coonery of Rap Music Part 2.


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A lot of white people, particularly racist republicans see this shit and laugh at it, make fun it of by doing black face parties and dress up as niggas, gangstas and hos. They think this is all we do, they don't care about conscious acts like Prince, Allen Kane, R and B or Jazz musicians, just this coon ass trap rap and songs like Dougie and Silento.


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70s hippy and metal head drug songs, did not lead people to think all whites are wasted hippies stoned all the time, but a lot seem to think blacks are all gangstas and hos and love drugs, wasting what little money they have on label clothes, fast cars and booze and have a whole bunch of kids they don't care about. It does not help when official statistics shows blacks more likely to be poor/in prison/on drugs/ being single parents/ smoking/drinking and shooting each other over the stupidest shit.


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That is what we have to deal with when this shitty form of music reinforces and glamourises these negative stereotypes. Not only that it reinforces the "Blacks are inferior, because they have subnormal intelligence" when these nuccas can't spell, don't speak anything other than ebonics, which in my opinion is not a language, its a politically correct babble thrown our way, its is retarded straight up niggaish talk "Dese nuts, wassup m playa" is not real language its retarded.


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Yes 60s and 70s drug songs, death metal, heavy metal and even some hee haw country acts make the performers and sub types of white people look like idiots too, but people do not lump them in with all white people, as they know many can't stand that music and consider it low brow. Yet shitty rap music cliches are usually blanket banded on black people. Seriously how many African American sitcoms are not Uncle Tomming, even good ones like Cosby Show and Fresh Prince, will show the characters shucking and jiving with the dancing for the white folks. White sitcoms don't often have the characters dancing in the opening song. It is a stereotype, Black people have to have dem jungle riddims. The best Cosby show opening was season 1, as they are merely playing baseball. However besides that, I will not criticise that programme as it showed the joy of togetherness, family and education and hard work as a mantra, something positive for all races to live by. Despite what has come out about Bill Cosby, we all still need to respect the guy, the speech about him criticising rap, solo parents and ebonics (Shaniqua, Taliquah and Muhammad and they are all unemployed) is still the most honest shit we have heard in a long time.


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Then you have reality TV, Flavor or love, my babymammas that ridicule the romeo stereotype and viral fads like Antoine Dodson and Sweet Brown that portray blacks are barely literate thugs and crackheads. We are a beautiful race and we need to take back our culture and pride. Getting rid of coon rap is the beginning.


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Romeo stereotype, the idea that women choose males based on their attractiveness rather than fathering skills. Many uneducated people and Blacks will choose the most attractive partner, whereas many educated and White/Asian people choose a person more likely based on their intelligence/income/social background and potential fathering ability and child rearing skills over rugged good looks.


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Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average IQ of all white races as it was a custom, that women would marry their daughters to the son of the local rabbi or the most intelligent/successful man no matter how ugly he was.

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If old white people think that gangsta-rap is a representation of African Americans then that is due to their ignorance and bigotry, I don't get why you are mad and demanding that black people start practicing respectability politics.
Your story about how the women were all forced to marry the ugliest rabbis and men in town in a failed attempt to make a superior white race is just pure gold. Good stuff Adore.


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Reply #63 posted 01/06/16 7:02am

SeventeenDayze

hausofmoi7 said:

Adorecream said:

Maybe guys, but all this 1960s/1970s drug music was by established performers aimed at audience who liked to toke in some cases at the time. Drugs in the 1967 - 1977 period were almost acceptable.

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Plus most intelligent people knew these white acts, were part of the hippie/rock subculture and not representative of the white race and its musical output in general. These same people however can not do that discrimination with the Black race.

.

Trap rap and rap dance songs are the only rap songs that hit the charts, very few R and B or Jazz songs hit these charts, or conscious and positive rap like Nas and Common, just "I'm going to fuck this nigga/bitch" shit. Many older White people and even other races, listen to this music and honestly think it is representative of all black people, as the music is most publicly shown is this coon ass rap shit. They guys wear gold chains, grills, jump around in silly clothes and mumble and speak in illiterate babble most of the time. There are usually references to drugs, killing people, buying expensive cars and clothes, spreading cash and singing about getting stoned and drunk.

.

"This music has desensitised us a human beings, we are no longer black men and women, we are niggas and bitches" - Voridire92 on Youtube - Video the Coonery of Rap Music Part 2.

.

A lot of white people, particularly racist republicans see this shit and laugh at it, make fun it of by doing black face parties and dress up as niggas, gangstas and hos. They think this is all we do, they don't care about conscious acts like Prince, Allen Kane, R and B or Jazz musicians, just this coon ass trap rap and songs like Dougie and Silento.

.

70s hippy and metal head drug songs, did not lead people to think all whites are wasted hippies stoned all the time, but a lot seem to think blacks are all gangstas and hos and love drugs, wasting what little money they have on label clothes, fast cars and booze and have a whole bunch of kids they don't care about. It does not help when official statistics shows blacks more likely to be poor/in prison/on drugs/ being single parents/ smoking/drinking and shooting each other over the stupidest shit.

.

That is what we have to deal with when this shitty form of music reinforces and glamourises these negative stereotypes. Not only that it reinforces the "Blacks are inferior, because they have subnormal intelligence" when these nuccas can't spell, don't speak anything other than ebonics, which in my opinion is not a language, its a politically correct babble thrown our way, its is retarded straight up niggaish talk "Dese nuts, wassup m playa" is not real language its retarded.

.

Yes 60s and 70s drug songs, death metal, heavy metal and even some hee haw country acts make the performers and sub types of white people look like idiots too, but people do not lump them in with all white people, as they know many can't stand that music and consider it low brow. Yet shitty rap music cliches are usually blanket banded on black people. Seriously how many African American sitcoms are not Uncle Tomming, even good ones like Cosby Show and Fresh Prince, will show the characters shucking and jiving with the dancing for the white folks. White sitcoms don't often have the characters dancing in the opening song. It is a stereotype, Black people have to have dem jungle riddims. The best Cosby show opening was season 1, as they are merely playing baseball. However besides that, I will not criticise that programme as it showed the joy of togetherness, family and education and hard work as a mantra, something positive for all races to live by. Despite what has come out about Bill Cosby, we all still need to respect the guy, the speech about him criticising rap, solo parents and ebonics (Shaniqua, Taliquah and Muhammad and they are all unemployed) is still the most honest shit we have heard in a long time.

.

Then you have reality TV, Flavor or love, my babymammas that ridicule the romeo stereotype and viral fads like Antoine Dodson and Sweet Brown that portray blacks are barely literate thugs and crackheads. We are a beautiful race and we need to take back our culture and pride. Getting rid of coon rap is the beginning.

.

Romeo stereotype, the idea that women choose males based on their attractiveness rather than fathering skills. Many uneducated people and Blacks will choose the most attractive partner, whereas many educated and White/Asian people choose a person more likely based on their intelligence/income/social background and potential fathering ability and child rearing skills over rugged good looks.

.

Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average IQ of all white races as it was a custom, that women would marry their daughters to the son of the local rabbi or the most intelligent/successful man no matter how ugly he was.

[Edited 12/27/15 18:43pm]

If old white people think that gangsta-rap is a representation of African Americans then that is due to their ignorance and bigotry, I don't get why you are mad and demanding that black people start practicing respectability politics. Your story about how the women were all forced to marry the ugliest rabbis and men in town in a failed attempt to make a superior white race is just pure gold. Good stuff Adore. . [Edited 1/6/16 0:14am]

Excellent points, Haus! Glad you're in this thread!

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Reply #64 posted 01/06/16 10:27pm

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I'm not, hausofmoi7 is just a troll who follows me around eveywhere I go and like 214 ans Seventeendayze, some who is just there to harass and bully me to the detriment of any logical reason.

Unless you have anything useful to say other than namecalling, bullying me and being petty. Back da phuck off!

You are a pack of trolls and haterz on the internet are going to hate.
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Reply #65 posted 01/07/16 9:57am

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Reply #66 posted 01/07/16 5:46pm

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eek
Wait.....
What the....
I actually was waiting for the joke....
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WOW!
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Reply #67 posted 01/08/16 2:18pm

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Video post.
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Reply #68 posted 01/24/16 4:26am

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Deleted, the video was a coldplay song. I only hate them marginally less than Juicy J or Two Chainz or some other rapper.

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Reply #69 posted 01/26/16 5:16pm

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Farfunknugin said:

Never understood the appeal of RAP. Street poetry to a beat, Boooring. Half the time you can't even understand what Rappers are spewing into the mic.

Sadly, this is the case with most rap

I too did not find much taste in rap, until one day I decided do dig up on all the 80s old school hip hop! There is so much gold hidden in the depths of that decade

Public Enemy is my favorite hip hop group ever. They were so revolutional, god i love them. Listen to 'It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back'. It is often acknowledged as the best hip hop album bar none. They were a very political group. Kinda like The Clash, except that they fought for the rights of black people in America lol It might not seem true, but the 80s were hard times for the black American man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PaoLy7PHwk

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Reply #70 posted 02/02/16 8:58pm

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I have no problems with early rap and conscious rap in which the guys all had glasses and wore loud looking shirts. It is the COON ASS DRUG, GANG, TRAP AND MATERIALISTIC RAP that I can't stand.

Main artists I hate and who I consider coons. (No apologies for mispelled and incorrect names, so DON'T bother correcting me) Most are rapper, but some r and b singhas maybe here too.

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Lil Wayne

Trinidad James

Nicki Minaj

Lil Flip

Soulja Boy tellem

Any artist behind a rap dance trend song Silento, Cali Swag District

Snoop Dogg (Sorry but he is a coon)

Florida

Plies

Gucci Mane

Kanye West

Twochains

Juicy J

YC

Future

Migos

CB Milton (Respect my mfin dick Kanye imitator)

50 cents

Lloyd Banks

Jay Z

Any Dogg Pound/ G funk artitst

Any trap rapper

Ezy mo sease

2pac

Biggie

Icecube

Dr Dre (Legacy coons count too)

Waka Flocka Flame

Femy Tip or whatever his name

LMFAO

Chris Brown

Ho ass bitches like Tamiya, Tamika, Kesha and video hoes etc.

I will think of more as they come

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