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Reply #120 posted 07/16/15 8:52am

mancabdriver

My 2 cents:

Bigger:

Michael Jackson

Madonna

Whitney

Better:

Prince

Janet

George Michael

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Reply #121 posted 07/16/15 8:58am

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As far as sales & success, its a debate that will never end or be answered. As far as personal accomplishments and overall happiness I'd say Madonna won with Prince at a close 2nd, soley based on how well received their projects are and have been received. Both continue to challenge and inspire, maintaing some semblence of "normalcy" in their careers for decades upon decades. MJ, Whitney, and George have had devastating personal issues. I consider Janet more of a 90s Icon.

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Reply #122 posted 07/16/15 9:23am

Free2BMe

mancabdriver said:

My 2 cents:



Bigger:



Michael Jackson


Madonna


Whitney



Better:



Prince


Janet


George Michael


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My 10 cents:

Bigger and better-

1. Michael Jackson
2. Madonna
3. Prince
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Reply #123 posted 07/16/15 9:31am

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I'm pretty sure Def Leppard & Lionel Richie sold more than Janet in the 1980s

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Reply #124 posted 07/16/15 9:31am

Free2BMe

TheGoldStandard said:

As far as sales & success, its a debate that will never end or be answered. As far as personal accomplishments and overall happiness I'd say Madonna won with Prince at a close 2nd, soley based on how well received their projects are and have been received. Both continue to challenge and inspire, maintaing some semblence of "normalcy" in their careers for decades upon decades. MJ, Whitney, and George have had devastating personal issues. I consider Janet more of a 90s Icon.



As far as personal accomplishments:

1. Michael achieved more than any other artist, even with all of the s### that he was dealt.
2. Madonna continues to be successful.
3. Prince continues to be put out music that he and his fans care about.
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Reply #125 posted 07/16/15 9:51am

NorthC

Why is no one here ever mentioning U2? They were as big as Madonna, Jackson or Prince in the 80s and 90s.
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Reply #126 posted 07/16/15 10:07am

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I don't think U2 was any more popular than other 1980s acts like Motley Crue, Billy Joel, Hall & Oates, Phil Collins, Foreigner, Van Halen, Pat Benatar, Journey, Don Henley, Huey Lewis And The News, ZZ Top, Poison, Bruce Springsteen, Bryan Adams, Whitesnake, Guns & Roses, etc.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #127 posted 07/16/15 10:24am

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Journey was so popular they got a video game. I think they might have been the first act to get one.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #128 posted 07/16/15 10:27am

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You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #129 posted 07/16/15 10:29am

NorthC

MickyDolenz said:

I don't think U2 was any more popular than other 1980s acts like Motley Crue, Billy Joel, Hall & Oates, Phil Collins, Foreigner, Van Halen, Pat Benatar, Journey, Don Henley, Huey Lewis And The News, ZZ Top, Poison, Bruce Springsteen, Bryan Adams, Whitesnake, Guns & Roses, etc.


Oh yes, they were. Pat Benatar and Billy Joel didn't sell out football stadiums in Europe. Springsteen and Guns N Roses did, but in Europe, U2 was the biggest band of the decade. Maybe it took them a little longer to break through in America and we just like different things on both sides of the Atlantic. Just like Kate Bush never had big hits in America, but over here, she did.
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Reply #130 posted 07/16/15 10:40am

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NorthC said:

MickyDolenz said:

I don't think U2 was any more popular than other 1980s acts like Motley Crue, Billy Joel, Hall & Oates, Phil Collins, Foreigner, Van Halen, Pat Benatar, Journey, Don Henley, Huey Lewis And The News, ZZ Top, Poison, Bruce Springsteen, Bryan Adams, Whitesnake, Guns & Roses, etc.

Oh yes, they were. Pat Benatar and Billy Joel didn't sell out football stadiums in Europe. Springsteen and Guns N Roses did, but in Europe, U2 was the biggest band of the decade. Maybe it took them a little longer to break through in America and we just like different things on both sides of the Atlantic. Just like Kate Bush never had big hits in America, but over here, she did. [Edited 7/16/15 10:34am]

I don't know about Europe. I'm talking about the USA. The US is a bigger market. Platinum in the US is more than it is in other countries.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #131 posted 07/16/15 2:10pm

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MickyDolenz said:

I don't think U2 was any more popular than other 1980s acts like Motley Crue, Billy Joel, Hall & Oates, Phil Collins, Foreigner, Van Halen, Pat Benatar, Journey, Don Henley, Huey Lewis And The News, ZZ Top, Poison, Bruce Springsteen, Bryan Adams, Whitesnake, Guns & Roses, etc.

Not all of them were quite on the same level of popularity though. Bruce is probably the hottest act of the bunch with Phil Collins as a close second overall. I wouldn't know how to rank the rest though if I'd have to guess, acts like Pat Benatar and ZZ Top would be at the low end of the popularity spectrum.

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Reply #132 posted 07/16/15 2:50pm

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MotownSubdivision said:

Not all of them were quite on the same level of popularity though. Bruce is probably the hottest act of the bunch with Phil Collins as a close second overall. I wouldn't know how to rank the rest though if I'd have to guess, acts like Pat Benatar and ZZ Top would be at the low end of the popularity spectrum.

I don't know about other countries, but hair metal bands were really popular in the US at the time. MTV constantly played Bon Jovi videos. Ratt had an album that sold 3 million and they had others that went at least platinum, and they weren't even the biggest of the bunch. Metal Health by Quiet Riot was a popular album too.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #133 posted 07/16/15 3:03pm

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Alabama, the country band, had several multiplatinum albums in the 1980s and so did Randy Travis. The Dirty Dancing soundtrack was popular too and maybe the ones for Beverly Hills Cop The Big Chill and Miami Vice as well. Both Dirty Dancing & Miami Vice had more than one album released.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #134 posted 07/16/15 4:25pm

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Billboard puts out an issue every year of the most popular acts & records of the year for each chart. It's only for that year and not for any future sales. So some might have sold more in the long run. These are the biggest pop albums for each year. The lists goes to either 100 or 50 depending on the year, but I only got the 1st 25. In order, the years are 1980 - 1981 - 1982 - 1984 - 1985 - 1986. I couldn't find the issues for the other years.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #135 posted 07/16/15 4:27pm

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You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #136 posted 07/16/15 4:43pm

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I found 1987.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #137 posted 07/17/15 7:48am

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I think the problem with looking up sales in Wiki or whatever is that you're not seeing the contemporary popularity when the albums were released. You're seeing total sales. Some acts & albums kept selling throughout the decades like Bruce Springsteen and others not so much like Kim Carnes. Those lists was published during the years in question, so are more accurate in telling what was bought and who was popular.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #138 posted 07/17/15 8:01am

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I'm really surprised to see Billy Ocean and Bryan Adams above Prince. eyepop

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Reply #139 posted 07/17/15 8:16am

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kitbradley said:

I'm really surprised to see Billy Ocean and Bryan Adams above Prince. eyepop

I listened to pop radio and watched MTV, so I'm not surprised about Bryan Adams. Like a few other albums on the lists, Purple Rain was popular in 2 different years. That it's up that high the 1984 list at all, when it came out later in the year than others can tell you it sold pretty well.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #140 posted 07/17/15 9:38am

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MickyDolenz said:

I think the problem with looking up sales in Wiki or whatever is that you're not seeing the contemporary popularity when the albums were released. You're seeing total sales. Some acts & albums kept selling throughout the decades like Bruce Springsteen and others not so much like Kim Carnes. Those lists was published during the years in question, so are more accurate in telling what was bought and who was popular.


That's true. I remember Dire Straits had an album that stayed on the album charts for years. Prince's albums usually sky-rocketed to # 1 and then dropped just as quickly. Anyway, thanks for posting these lists. I used to collect them too, but I don't have them anymore. It's fun to see and like I said, it also shows the difference between Europe and the US. I have to do it all from memory and Bon Jovi had hits in Holland, but they surely did not have the best selling album of 1987.
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Reply #141 posted 07/17/15 2:35pm

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Prince was obviously bigger in the 80's. In fact, Only, I mean ONLY Michael Jackson was bigger, and even that was subject to debate. Now my personal opinion on the matter, as much as I LOVE Michael Jackson, he never had an album that sounded as perfect as Purple Rain. Not even his Legendary Thriller album. In fact, I say Purple Rain by itself beats Michael Jackson's entire career! Speaking of which.......nevermind.

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Reply #142 posted 07/18/15 10:40am

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NorthC said:

I have to do it all from memory and Bon Jovi had hits in Holland, but they surely did not have the best selling album of 1987.

I think performers usually have more success in their home country. Maybe a small percentage get any sort of international fame. Like Bollywood singers are probably more popular in India than in the US.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #143 posted 07/18/15 6:31pm

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Scarfo said:

Prince was obviously bigger in the 80's. In fact, Only, I mean ONLY Michael Jackson was bigger, and even that was subject to debate. Now my personal opinion on the matter, as much as I LOVE Michael Jackson, he never had an album that sounded as perfect as Purple Rain. Not even his Legendary Thriller album. In fact, I say Purple Rain by itself beats Michael Jackson's entire career! Speaking of which.......nevermind.

[Edited 7/17/15 14:42pm]

Don't get carried away now... lol

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Reply #144 posted 07/19/15 5:48pm

SoulAlive

No,I don't think that is subject to debate hmmm Thriller is the biggest selling-album of all-time.It's not really debatable.

Scarfo said:

Prince was obviously bigger in the 80's. In fact, Only, I mean ONLY Michael Jackson was bigger, and even that was subject to debate.

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Reply #145 posted 07/19/15 6:01pm

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SoulAlive said:



No,I don't think that is subject to debate hmmm Thriller is the biggest selling-album of all-time.It's not really debatable.



Scarfo said:


Prince was obviously bigger in the 80's. In fact, Only, I mean ONLY Michael Jackson was bigger, and even that was subject to debate.



Actually it is subject 2 debate. Thriller musically can't touch Princes 1980's work. It is the video concepts that got thriller over. Not the music.
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Reply #146 posted 07/19/15 7:04pm

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the media, commercial media and urban media and then the greater public at large crushed Whitney Houston and drove her to the brink after the 80s ended.....

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Reply #147 posted 07/19/15 8:03pm

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Graycap23 said:

Actually it is subject 2 debate. Thriller musically can't touch Princes 1980's work. It is the video concepts that got thriller over. Not the music.

There were 7 singles released and 4 of them had no videos, including the 1st one with Paul McCartney. What about Off The Wall? It is the 3rd most popular album of 1980. There was no MTV in 1980. What about Whitney? Her videos weren't flashy. Or the 7 acts (not counting the Miami Vice soundtrack) who are ahead of Prince in 1985. I don't think Bruce Springsteen, Bryan Adams, Wham!, Tina Turner, and Phil Collins were really known for concept videos. Other than Purple Rain & 1999, Prince's other albums didn't even make the Top 25 popular albums of the years posted. Kenny Rogers and Kool & The Gang has more albums on them.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #148 posted 07/19/15 8:26pm

SoulAlive

Graycap23 said:

SoulAlive said:

No,I don't think that is subject to debate hmmm Thriller is the biggest selling-album of all-time.It's not really debatable.

Actually it is subject 2 debate. Thriller musically can't touch Princes 1980's work. It is the video concepts that got thriller over. Not the music.

that's subjective lol I'm talking about sales and impact only.Thriller was HUGE and its impact is indisputable.

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Reply #149 posted 07/19/15 8:30pm

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Graycap23 said:

SoulAlive said:



No,I don't think that is subject to debate hmmm Thriller is the biggest selling-album of all-time.It's not really debatable.



Scarfo said:


Prince was obviously bigger in the 80's. In fact, Only, I mean ONLY Michael Jackson was bigger, and even that was subject to debate.



Actually it is subject 2 debate. Thriller musically can't touch Princes 1980's work. It is the video concepts that got thriller over. Not the music.
It was both the videos and the music.
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