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Thread started 05/09/15 10:54pm

CynicKill

Is This The Album D'Angelo Detractors Were Hoping For?

By now we all know that even though "Black Messiah" got overwhelmingly positive reviews, many music fans felt that there wasn't much adventure in D's 14 year wait back into the spotlight, and the comeback has been pretty low key.

Now there's a new album out that might just steal "Black Messiah's" thunder. The reviews are overwhelmingly positive and all the buzzwords are there. Five years in the making, did Kamasi Washington pull off what D'Angelo couldn't do in 14?

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Reply #1 posted 05/10/15 6:54am

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I'll check this out.

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Reply #2 posted 05/10/15 7:12am

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cool Live Concert Stream of the whole KW album: http://www.npr.org/event/...paign=jazz

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Reply #3 posted 05/10/15 9:04am

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iTunes snippets sound pretty good. I might buy this.

Not sure what it has to do with D.
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Reply #4 posted 05/10/15 12:31pm

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controversy99 said:

iTunes snippets sound pretty good. I might buy this. Not sure what it has to do with D.

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D was hinting at new methods and experimentation as to some of the reasons why he wasn't ready to release his album sooner, things some don't feel evident in the resulting material.

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Reply #5 posted 05/10/15 12:43pm

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CynicKill said:

controversy99 said:

iTunes snippets sound pretty good. I might buy this. Not sure what it has to do with D.

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D was hinting at new methods and experimentation as to some of the reasons why he wasn't ready to release his album sooner, things some don't feel evident in the resulting material.

Maybe so, but at heart D's album was always going to be an RnB album I think, not a jazz one, that's just not the field in which he operates in (obviously his best music in the past has blurred the lines between the various styles of African-American music in the past, but generally speaking I think people were expecting a more pop-oriented album as opposed to a Jazz one.)

Were you disappointed in Black Messiah? Thanks for letting me know about this one btw, sounds good, I'll check it out.

Ooh, looks like this is available really cheap from the website, £7 for a lossless version, I think I might definitely get this: http://ninjatune.net/rele...n/the-epic

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Reply #6 posted 05/10/15 12:50pm

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CynicKill said:

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D was hinting at new methods and experimentation as to some of the reasons why he wasn't ready to release his album sooner, things some don't feel evident in the resulting material.

Maybe so, but at heart D's album was always going to be an RnB album I think, not a jazz one, that's just not the field in which he operates in (obviously his best music in the past has blurred the lines between the various styles of African-American music in the past, but generally speaking I think people were expecting a more pop-oriented album as opposed to a Jazz one.)

Were you disappointed in Black Messiah? Thanks for letting me know about this one btw, sounds good, I'll check it out.

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When it first came out I was one of its biggest cheerleaders. But I was hesitant to rate it a classic and I'm happy I was. I don't think "Black Messiah" will be a classic like "VooDoo" is.

The truth is I barely listen to "Black Messiah" now. And that's telling from someone who was really looking forward to it.

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Reply #7 posted 05/10/15 1:10pm

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CynicKill said:

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

Maybe so, but at heart D's album was always going to be an RnB album I think, not a jazz one, that's just not the field in which he operates in (obviously his best music in the past has blurred the lines between the various styles of African-American music in the past, but generally speaking I think people were expecting a more pop-oriented album as opposed to a Jazz one.)

Were you disappointed in Black Messiah? Thanks for letting me know about this one btw, sounds good, I'll check it out.

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When it first came out I was one of its biggest cheerleaders. But I was hesitant to rate it a classic and I'm happy I was. I don't think "Black Messiah" will be a classic like "VooDoo" is.

The truth is I barely listen to "Black Messiah" now. And that's telling from someone who was really looking forward to it.

That's fair enough. honestly I haven't listened to Black Messiah for a while either, but that's more to do with my discovering a huge amount of music over the past three months, so I just haven't really had the listening time to go back to it. I'm seeing D in July though so I'll probably spin it some more around then.

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Reply #8 posted 05/10/15 4:21pm

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Cynic, thank you so much!

I'm listening to "Re Run Home" and it's really fucking excellent.

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Reply #9 posted 05/10/15 6:50pm

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Did BM go gold yet? Is it sitll on the charts??

Anyways...a lot of forward thinking records have surpassed that record this year already.

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Reply #10 posted 05/11/15 9:16am

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I'm gonna give it a shot. From what I've read sounds like it could be tight. But with that many hours of music in one release it can't be bad. As for D' experimentation on BM, There are a couple of tracks that are kinda different but not what I was expecting after 14yrs. I was kinda hoping for experimental and different like how Maxwell's Embrya was way different than UHS or how all Bilal's albums since his debut have all been very different. Yet at the same time I was expecting Voodoo #2. But I still listen to it often. Vocally he's one of the most soulful and skilled out today.
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Reply #11 posted 05/21/15 7:07am

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wowsers....

I (pre)ordered this two weeks ago, 3 discs for only 17 Euro (!) and I'm still desperately waiting for the physical copy which should arrive any day, but over the Amazon cloud I've enjoyed it for quite some time now

and oh dear, I'm pretty speechless. 172 minutes in all... songs with 8, 10 or 12 minutes in length, and not one minute I would edit out. mindblowing!


I especially enjoy his take on Cherokee, also Rhythm Changes, Malcolm's Theme, Magnificent 7, Re Run Home.... oh shit ... at this point it's a bit unfair to single out certain tracks, cause the exploration is still going on.. but my current fave is Debussys Clair de Lune, it just elevates me to another dimension, some kinda out-of-body-experience. seriously music cloud9





HELL YEAH!!!! woot!


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Reply #12 posted 05/21/15 7:23am

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oh, and for D'Angelo... I've listened to Black Mesissah more often in the last 14 weeks than to Voodoo in the last 14 years smile but that's beside the point... I don't see the connection to this, except for outstanding musicianship

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Reply #13 posted 05/24/15 5:54am

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I think the connection was that after 14yrs were D'Angelo fans looking for something a little more epic like this album, or something as large as Jessie Johnson's Verbal Penetration or Prince's Emancipation.
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Reply #14 posted 05/25/15 2:27pm

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I don't know this brother, but I'm impressed at first listen. I look forward to the NPR live stream.


Thanks, Cynic.

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Reply #15 posted 05/25/15 6:15pm

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two different types of music tho...

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Reply #16 posted 05/25/15 7:42pm

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Apples to oranges. Both are great!
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Reply #17 posted 05/27/15 6:09pm

CynicKill

NPR webcast on now!

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