duccichucka said:

And yet, assumedly, we have Black people in this thread proudly showing how evolved their
musical taste is as if they've achieved some type of enlightenment simply because being black
and able to enjoy white artists means you've managed to transcend your humanity: "I'm black
and I like opera! See how open minded and unique and color-blind I am?!?!? Please acknow-
ledge how cultivated and refined and sophisticated my taste in music is despite being black!!!!"

So this thread serves two functions:

1. The OP is "experimenting" as s/he wants to learn more about Black people
and appears to be doing so with a flawed study design albeit without malice

2. Some, not all, black people in this thread are simply showing off by listing all
the music they enjoy while buying into the stereotype that Blacks only enjoy
Black music

Blacks like soulful pop songs. There are a few who like Van Halen. Some who like Punk. They certainly love Kenny G but I dont' know the fuck why. lol

We should ask how many whites like soul music? I went to a Maxwell gig and I was one of the few bonified crackas.

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i dont see nothing wrong with this thread. are we gonna act like we dont have our differences when it comes to music? of course nothing applies to any entire group of people but there is a large majority of black people who prefer a certain genre of music just like whites,latinos,ect. personally i dont listen to alot of white artists thats why im able to list the ones i do like.

duccichucka said:

3rdeyedude said:

Thank you!! But yet, people respond to it like it is an actual question. Maybe he grew up not knowing much about music or the world in general. He has a thread in the General Discussion forum that admits he is clueless about women. So maybe he is just throwing it all out there for everyone to see. These days I fell like the org is becoming a place for people who need therapy but instead just post all their shit here for us to respond to. Yikes!

Right.

This thread is just as ridiculous as the thread I'm going to start called:

"Who are some female artists that men like?"

Please don't be joking! I'm scanning my library right now, up to 43 names . . .

namepeace said:

duccichucka said:

Right.

This thread is just as ridiculous as the thread I'm going to start called:

"Who are some female artists that men like?"

Please don't be joking! I'm scanning my library right now, up to 43 names . . .

Stay tuned!......

RJOrion said:

relax...im a black man who loves all kinds of music...there was really nothing demeaning or degrading about the question posed by this thread....different cultures while enjoying the art of other cultures, are also curious about the how other cultures feel about those same arts...discussing these differences and similarities in musical tastes shouldnt have to be a contentious or uncomfortable situation, unless someone is being degrading or condescending...IMO

RJ, never did I say that the thread was demeaning or degrading. I would encourage you to read
all of my posts in this thread and get back to me afterwards. Otherwise, you totally did not under-
stand my argument.

So do that before you ask me to relax.

Black people of a certain age love this song:

Oddly, even though this is a country gospel song that's white as shit, I have seen many black friends and church people go crazy for this:

Don't ask me.

MickyDolenz said:

Disclaimer: I'm white, and thus can't really contribute to this rather odd thread--just thought I'd mention that my mom had a copy of that O.B. McClinton Live at Randy's Rodeo album (I have no idea why or how), but I loved that thing as a kid. And I should have known that if he came up on Prince.org, Micky Dolenz would be the one who brought him up.

Also (I probably shouldn't ask this)--but there's been a few mentions of Phil Collins... and I've seen this in a few different interviews and such with black artists (mostly hip-hop, if I remember correctly). Can someone explain this? I know at least sometimes it's specifically "In the Air Tonight" (and seriously, I'm not just thinking about the Mike Tyson thing in The Hangover, I swear), but is there like something more to this that I'm not getting? I remember at one time valuing him higher than I do now (I really liked "One More Night" and "Separate Lives" for a while), but I can't imagine why he seems to pop up as often as he does. What chord is he hitting for people?

I'm surprised no one here has mentioned Colbie Caillat yet.

EddieC said:

Also (I probably shouldn't ask this)--but there's been a few mentions of Phil Collins... and I've seen this in a few different interviews and such with black artists (mostly hip-hop, if I remember correctly). Can someone explain this? I know at least sometimes it's specifically "In the Air Tonight" (and seriously, I'm not just thinking about the Mike Tyson thing in The Hangover, I swear), but is there like something more to this that I'm not getting? I remember at one time valuing him higher than I do now (I really liked "One More Night" and "Separate Lives" for a while), but I can't imagine why he seems to pop up as often as he does. What chord is he hitting for people?

He had some grooves. "Missed Again" and "Misunderstanding" were nice little jams. He had good hooks and harmonies.

EddieC said:

Also (I probably shouldn't ask this)--but there's been a few mentions of Phil Collins... and I've seen this in a few different interviews and such with black artists (mostly hip-hop, if I remember correctly). Can someone explain this? I know at least sometimes it's specifically "In the Air Tonight" (and seriously, I'm not just thinking about the Mike Tyson thing in The Hangover, I swear), but is there like something more to this that I'm not getting? I remember at one time valuing him higher than I do now (I really liked "One More Night" and "Separate Lives" for a while), but I can't imagine why he seems to pop up as often as he does. What chord is he hitting for people?

EddieC said:

just thought I'd mention that my mom had a copy of that O.B. McClinton Live at Randy's Rodeo album (I have no idea why or how), but I loved that thing as a kid. And I should have known that if he came up on Prince.org, Micky Dolenz would be the one who brought him up.

I made a thread about O.B. here once plus Big Jim Downing & Linda Martell too. The Beatles remade one of Arthur Alexanders's songs called Anna.

JabarR74 said:

I'm surprised no one here has mentioned Colbie Caillat yet.

Never heard of her

EddieC said:

MickyDolenz said:

Disclaimer: I'm white, and thus can't really contribute to this rather odd thread--just thought I'd mention that my mom had a copy of that O.B. McClinton Live at Randy's Rodeo album (I have no idea why or how), but I loved that thing as a kid. And I should have known that if he came up on Prince.org, Micky Dolenz would be the one who brought him up.

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EddieC said:

I don't know if the Maori's are considered "Balck" by your standards, but they generally have a predilection for Black musical tastes (Rap, reggae and R&B) and don't listen to that much "White music". The following are popular.

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Heavy Metal - Particularly AC/DC and Led Zeppelin

Elton John

David Bowie (Surprisingly)

Eurythmics

Boy Band/Justin Bieber type crap (Kids and teens)

Kenny Rogers

Tom Jones (A big one amongst older Maoris)

Engelbert Humperdinck (Rubber lipped Anglo Indian singer) a song called 10 Guitars

Adorecream said:

I don't know if the Maori's are considered "Balck" by your standards, but they generally have a predilection for Black musical tastes (Rap, reggae and R&B) and don't listen to that much "White music". The following are popular.

.

Heavy Metal - Particularly AC/DC and Led Zeppelin

Elton John

David Bowie (Surprisingly)

Eurythmics

Boy Band/Justin Bieber type crap (Kids and teens)

Kenny Rogers

Tom Jones (A big one amongst older Maoris), John Rowles was a soundalike artist (He is 1/8 Maori but seems to think he is the real deal)

Engelbert Humperdinck (Rubber lipped Anglo Indian singer) a song called 10 Guitars

Also I think

- Most country artists and music, Dolly Parton, Charlie Pride (Although I know he is black), Jim Reeves, Marty Robbins, Kenny Dale etc

- Phil Collins and Gensis

- Pink Floyd

- John Mayer

- Eric Clapton

- Beatles and Rolling Stones.

- Kevin Bloody Wilson (Obscene Aussie Comedian)

- Rodney Rude, Billy Connolly, bawdy comedy albums.

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2freaky4church1 said:

They certainly love Kenny G

Smooth jazz is basically instrumental R&B or funk. Kenny started out in a funk band in the 1970s.

Chancellor said:

My Late Grandmother LOVED, loved, Loved Country music...Back in the 80's Music was Music and just about every radio station would play ANY artist that was Hot...I never understood my Grandmother's Love for Country Music until later...I appreciate all forms of Music...

Well, next time I go to our Wed. meeting I'll ask.

Chancellor broke it down...

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Superstition said:

I think he's successful as a crossover artist for the same reason Elton John was, lots of good singles, collaborations, legitimately talented, and heavy incorporations of r&b into his music. Speaking just for me, before I had my own cassette player or CD player, I just listened to whatever they played on the system at the grocery store mall and movie theaters, and I remember hearing Phil Collins right alongside Anita Baker, Michael McDonald and all sorts of other soul/pop/rock acts.

It's not that well known to the general public, but Phil also played drums in the jazz funk band Brand X

MickyDolenz said:

2freaky4church1 said:

They certainly love Kenny G

Smooth jazz is basically instrumental R&B or funk. Kenny started out in a funk band in the 1970s.

I think Kenny Gorelick started out in an R&B band BUT he did some very good work with the Jeff Lorber Fusion which was a prototypical Jazz Fusion 1970s outfit. Kenny G can play....the 1980s smooth jazz stuff (which was watered down versions of really excellent musicians like Bob James, Ronnie Laws, Grover Washington Jr, the Jazz Crusaders, even Donald Byrd's Black Byrds ) really was a bore and Kenny became a millionaire in the process. But even with that medoicre stuff, he can play....you don't see it in live performances because he performs all that smooth jazz garbage...but listen to him on "Galaxian" from the Jeff Lorber Fusion.

mrgone777 said:

MickyDolenz said:

Smooth jazz is basically instrumental R&B or funk. Kenny started out in a funk band in the 1970s.

I think Kenny Gorelick started out in an R&B band BUT he did some very good work with the Jeff Lorber Fusion which was a prototypical Jazz Fusion 1970s outfit. Kenny G can play....the 1980s smooth jazz stuff (which was watered down versions of really excellent musicians like Bob James, Ronnie Laws, Grover Washington Jr, the Jazz Crusaders, even Donald Byrd's Black Byrds ) really was a bore and Kenny became a millionaire in the process. But even with that medoicre stuff, he can play....you don't see it in live performances because he performs all that smooth jazz garbage...but listen to him on "Galaxian" from the Jeff Lorber Fusion.

Kenny's earlier records were a bit more uptempo, but since he was on Arista, I guess Clive Davis had him change his style to a more adult contemporary sound and that's when Kenny crossed over and started selling big. Those albums were popular with the middle aged R&B crowd, the ones who were less interested in rap. The same ones who were more likely to buy Freddie Jackson, Luther Vandross, Anita Baker, & Sade.

MickyDolenz said:

Superstition said:

MickyDolenz said:

It's not that well known to the general public, but Phil also played drums in the jazz funk band Brand X

True that. I also think songs like One More Night and In Too Deep are basically R&B songs, they're just classified as pop/lite rock because a white rock artist is singing them. Hell, on Phil's first album he remixed a Genesis rock song and turned it into a funky R&B song (Behind The Lines). His cover of You Can't Hurry Love was a huge hit, Two Hearts was a Motown throwback co-written with LaMont Dozier, Against All Odds is essentially a soul song.. I could go on.

That's the same with the light rock groups from the late 1970s & early 1980s, which later had "yacht rock" jokes made about them. Some of them like Player, Ambrosia, Christopher Cross, Robbie Dupree, Steely Dan, etc. had songs that were played on R&B stations. Members of Toto and other session musicians like Jay Graydon played on and/or produced popular R&B singers records of the time too and they were called 'Westcoast'.

bigboy784 said: