Scorp said:
everything you mentioned in the section I highlighted carries great credence and u made awesome points......
yes, Reagan did allot of damage, but ironically the man who's in office now said during his 2008 presidential campaign said that he patterned his political ideology after Reagan and Lincoln, and the entire country overlooked that, but they won't soon when the full measure of his policies kick in by 2014, and by 2016, the country will be singing a different tune, the handwriting is on the wall...
sorry I got off track, but I'm to the point now, I don't trust any politician......
but yes, Reaganomics went full tilt by 1982 where funding for music schools had dissipated, but this is the thing, inner city youth dealt and those growing up in rural america dealt w/the same disparities that confronted the 80s generation during the turn of the 20th century, but because of their ingenuity, because of the strong presence of culture, they were able to bring forth evolving expression each and generation that would follow..Prince is a self taught musician
.the 20s and 30s we saw blues, the 40s brought forth jazz, the 50s brought forth rhythm and blues (the pretext to what history now identifies as rock n roll, the 60s brought forth soul music, and the 70s brought forth even more distinct forms of music including hip-hop, and the 80s stood on the foundation that preceded that decade, making it possible for culture to be embraced on a global scale...reaching the pinnacle before the establishment took over and stole the virtue by staging the pop ascension movement
culture produced those musical notes, it gave life to the music, where the expression became intuitive, that's what made hip-hop so groundbreaking as it was being crafted, they weren't sampling as much as it was creating something out of nothing
and the forefathers of hip-hop warned the people if the music was ever exploited commercially, it would be destroyed, this was declared as early as 1978.....so they saw something that people needed to take heed to....
the establishment could have cultivated the talent...they could have provided the means to learn to how to craft music, I'm sure they carried access to those means but that's not what it wanted, as it sought to take advantage of the excitement, entertainment value and ultimately, the profitably one's talent could bring, talent cultivated by culture, as we entered the age of the music video...it wanted to maximize sales by mass producing records, and to accomplish that goal, it relied on the concept of sampling
culture is the key......
Yes I know and why should anyone be surprised, when the president lived in a sheltered world from a young age untill he went to NYC and Chicago as an adult, those ideals and figures came from his home but yeah... He changed drastically tho, I remember seeing him talk back in 06 and he was very inspiring but I dont know what happened to him after he became president Obama.
I agree to a certain extent, but not all the way because comparing the early generations before 1965 is quite unfair with the generations that came after, because african-american culture was able to create a unique sound because of the struggles of not having freedom and had to create something new that reflected the problems and their own society. American music has always been biracial since the early 18th century and the first music in the states started to be created, but in the beginning of the 20th century, a more personal sound that had its roots in african-american culture started to develop because there was a sense of pride and revolt against old ideals. Generations post 1965, have another world view and there's optimism that opens new doors and there's a cultural shift for african-americans. The changes and the ideas of africanism and pride are reclaimed in the 60s and 70s, it's a politcal period (as seen not only in black culture but everywhere around the world) and in the 80s that changes, because the door had been opened and african-american music was now part of american culture and not longer only a sub-culture.
Prince interest in music comes from his parents that are jazz musicians and if I'm not mistaken I believe he knows how to read sheet music as well (not to the standard of his father perhaps, but he knows the baisc of it) he also took saxophone lessons in high school for a short period and I think he also learned music theory from his teachers. He also knows the function of different keys and this develops an understanding of melody and harmony. Again, you notice how even Prince was involved with music from a very young age (and was exposed to his parents musicianship) and this developes the ear and him learning to play an instrument in school, proves again my point that taking away music classes and making instruments too expensive has diminished the interest in instruments in african-american culture, music isn't dead at all but it has changed because of various reasons. Many kids want to be rappers because that's something they see other black artists doing. This can be said in latin american culture as well, where there has always been a strong musical culture but in recent yrs has diminished because instruments are too expensive which has meant that music has shifted into more sampled and computer made music. Blame society for taking away the things that a culture needs to cultivate itself, not the culture itself. It's interesting that prior to the 60s many singers in black culture didn't come from the church and after the 80s almost every singer comes from the church and they have a very generic sound (I hope nobody gets offended just my opinion). I much prefer jazz singers to gospel singers anyday though.
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Tell use how you really feel mjscarousal. It's been a long time since I've heard the word "wack", God, love that word. When I catch my breath I'll offer an opinion.
The Drake's, Little Wayne's of the world emerge without any input of these legendary musicians and they'll fade out and another group of crap will emerge. There is some poetic justice in that... 
