My situation was a bit different. When deaths of famous entertainers, particularly music legends, especially icons as big as Michael or as influential at least, I tend to get shocked, sad and then wipe my tears and say RIP and move on, like I did when James Brown died. That one shook me up a bit because it came out of left field but after everything was said and done, I turned my volume up to a James Brown joint I heard.

With Michael, I felt like my spirit had left my body. My heart jumped in like fifteen places and all I kept saying was "wow... wow... wow." It took about three hours for it to HIT ME like "wow, Michael is gone for good." It was real unsettling. Almost like someone told me that my grandma died and I'm like "wow." I had to seriously reflect on what was one of the most shocking days in history. Farrah Fawcett had died earlier that day so I was mourning her death and wasn't thinking when I saw "helicopter above Holmby Hills, CA home of Michael Jackson" and "Michael Jackson sent to hospital". It was like "what the hell?" Then when all those reports of Michael being in the hospital and then dying, I almost wanted to fight anyone who said "he's dead" until it was confirmed. And when it was, like I said, I had to take a few hours for it to set in. I think by the 28th, when I began looking at his videos and listening to his music, instead of this anger or sadness that everyone felt when playing his music, a smile went over my face and I began to relax. I finally was like "see ya Mike!" But it took a minute.

I have never cried because of any celebrity passing. I might have been sad, but never cried. With Mike that's a whole another story. I learned about his death upon coming to work. My collegue told me, I didn't believe it. I ran to my office, turned on PC. It was everywhere. Still didn't believe it till I saw Jermaine uttering first words at the conference, I lost it. And the next vide was of Mike's covered body being taken out of an ambulance just froze me. I had to keep my feelings together because I was at work, but I was still walking around with tears in my eyes and the idea of 8 hours ahead and having to control myself were unbearable. When I got home, I started crying histerically and I wept till I fell asleep. The next days I was walking around with unstoppable tears in my eyes feeling as if my soul, my heart has left me - totally empty. It took weeks before I stopped feeling numb.

Timmy, I was all over the place just as you were too and though I wanted to cry right away and feel shock, though I was feeling those things, it wasn't registering that he was gone. Even Amy W. dying felt like a punch in the stomach and then I was ok with Michael, it was like no way, he's not dead and I started comforting other fans and shaking my head at texts and messages everyone was sending me, and was in a daze when people were talking about it, getting flashes of enjoying him with friends,having the posters,wondering how the hell it happened, but also feeling now he's at peace and no one can bother him. I couldn't watch tv it was so scary for me, I couldn't watch his videos, I was talking to different people all night and reading fan boards for updates. The minute we heard about Murray, I felt destroyed. The emotions got worse over the weeks and months, but I also started getting weird and giddy too during this time though I was anything but happy.....I totally wanted to believe this was a joke. I still have my moments of crying and getting angry today and can admit he's gone but it took lots and lots of tears and anger all for two years, though I'm really trying to live life too and put my focus elsewhere, and think I'll be okay, but it's so painful too knowing he left this way.

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Anyone hear about Gene Simmons performing at the tribute?? Gene fuckin' Simmons...

The Jacksons need help....this is getting TOO crazy even for them!

We're all talking about it in the Jacksons tribute thread Right now, I wish Janet would publicly announce she disowns her family and misses Michael. It's come down to that.

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Anyone hear about Gene Simmons performing at the tribute?? Gene fuckin' Simmons...

The Jacksons need help....this is getting TOO crazy even for them!

I've tried to give the family the benefit of the doubt on most things - but this, if true, is ridiculous.

"You'll do anything for money".

alphastreet said:

We're all talking about it in the Jacksons tribute thread Right now, I wish Janet would publicly announce she disowns her family and misses Michael. It's come down to that.

Obviously she's using the "we're still close" tag as publicity, which Michael still used until he died btw.

I thought with July 2011 now passing the conspiracy theory folks would finally let MJ rest - but alas looks like NOW they are saying he will make his "come back" on Oct 8 at the Cardiff show.

Bet when he doesn't show they'll put it down to stage fright and say he will appear at the Crique Show on Opening Night.... then at Vegas when that show hits there....

Ridiculous

Swa said:

I thought with July 2011 now passing the conspiracy theory folks would finally let MJ rest - but alas looks like NOW they are saying he will make his "come back" on Oct 8 at the Cardiff show.

Bet when he doesn't show they'll put it down to stage fright and say he will appear at the Crique Show on Opening Night.... then at Vegas when that show hits there....

Ridiculous

Seriously it's getting redundant, tired and sad now. Back in 2009, they were comic relief, now it looks like these fools are in need to enter a mental ward.

Swa said:

I thought with July 2011 now passing the conspiracy theory folks would finally let MJ rest - but alas looks like NOW they are saying he will make his "come back" on Oct 8 at the Cardiff show.

Bet when he doesn't show they'll put it down to stage fright and say he will appear at the Crique Show on Opening Night.... then at Vegas when that show hits there....

Ridiculous

im a beLIEver in the conspiracy theory...

but im not going to start that debate... however... i dont think the shows a good idea.. i think they should just let the cirque du soliel show be the tribute.. because that is going to be a spectacular show.

Although I am not a hoax believer, I got hopeful for a short while and kept an open mind, though I know I was just doing it to keep from crying, and knew deep down inside that implying MJ doing that was an insult to his family and too cruel to do to his kids. A few things I heard of made me think it's possible, but I highly doubt it though when it comes to MJ, you never know. Those boards and believers are dealing with some sort of post-traumatic stress and that's how they are coping, it's not healthy in the long run.

And you guys, I think the Immortal World Tour is really him, in disguise can you imagine....

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dm3857 said:

Swa said:

I thought with July 2011 now passing the conspiracy theory folks would finally let MJ rest - but alas looks like NOW they are saying he will make his "come back" on Oct 8 at the Cardiff show.

Bet when he doesn't show they'll put it down to stage fright and say he will appear at the Crique Show on Opening Night.... then at Vegas when that show hits there....

Ridiculous

im a beLIEver in the conspiracy theory...

but im not going to start that debate... however... i dont think the shows a good idea.. i think they should just let the cirque du soliel show be the tribute.. because that is going to be a spectacular show.

I don't know why people even buy conspiracies, not talking directly to you, just in general.

Timmy84 said:

Swa said:

I thought with July 2011 now passing the conspiracy theory folks would finally let MJ rest - but alas looks like NOW they are saying he will make his "come back" on Oct 8 at the Cardiff show.

Bet when he doesn't show they'll put it down to stage fright and say he will appear at the Crique Show on Opening Night.... then at Vegas when that show hits there....

Ridiculous

Seriously it's getting redundant, tired and sad now. Back in 2009, they were comic relief, now it looks like these fools are in need to enter a mental ward.

I'm all for theories if they are based in reality.

The main issue with most conspiracies is that they are all house of cards. Often one point to prove something, disproves another.

Also the shifting of goal posts is another trick. Oh when we said MJ would return in July 2011, we meant he would start his return.... blah blah blah.

Swa said:

Timmy84 said:

Seriously it's getting redundant, tired and sad now. Back in 2009, they were comic relief, now it looks like these fools are in need to enter a mental ward.

I'm all for theories if they are based in reality.

The main issue with most conspiracies is that they are all house of cards. Often one point to prove something, disproves another.

Also the shifting of goal posts is another trick. Oh when we said MJ would return in July 2011, we meant he would start his return.... blah blah blah.

Yeah now that just sounds crazy...

Swa said:

Timmy84 said:

Seriously it's getting redundant, tired and sad now. Back in 2009, they were comic relief, now it looks like these fools are in need to enter a mental ward.

I'm all for theories if they are based in reality.

The main issue with most conspiracies is that they are all house of cards. Often one point to prove something, disproves another.

Also the shifting of goal posts is another trick. Oh when we said MJ would return in July 2011, we meant he would start his return.... blah blah blah.

well..as a hoax beLIEver, i will say i have never heard of anyone saynig exact dates when he would return.. some people like to make there own consumptions about when he may return, but no.. and from someone who has researched the hoax like crazy, i will say that no one knows any dates..

You guys are horrible fans for not realizing this circus of a concert/KISS BS is the REAL start of his comeback. Keep beLIEving!

In fact, MJ will perform with KISS, HIStory armor and all

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alphastreet said:

You guys are horrible fans for not realizing this circus of a concert/KISS BS is the REAL start of his comeback. Keep beLIEving!

In fact, MJ will perform with KISS, HIStory armor and all

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You fool.

dm3857 said:

Swa said:

I'm all for theories if they are based in reality.

The main issue with most conspiracies is that they are all house of cards. Often one point to prove something, disproves another.

Also the shifting of goal posts is another trick. Oh when we said MJ would return in July 2011, we meant he would start his return.... blah blah blah.

well..as a hoax beLIEver, i will say i have never heard of anyone saynig exact dates when he would return.. some people like to make there own consumptions about when he may return, but no.. and from someone who has researched the hoax like crazy, i will say that no one knows any dates..

Well actually, many MJ beLIEver sites would often post a image of reportedly MJ's signature that read "see you in July 2011" and used it as the date MJ would come back. That was what I was referring to.

If someone could forge MJ's signature for a supposed All Good Entertainment signature too, then I think I've made myself clear that shit ain't real and these people were probably not fans before the death to know that, or have a selective memory

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Swa said:

dm3857 said:

well..as a hoax beLIEver, i will say i have never heard of anyone saynig exact dates when he would return.. some people like to make there own consumptions about when he may return, but no.. and from someone who has researched the hoax like crazy, i will say that no one knows any dates..

Well actually, many MJ beLIEver sites would often post a image of reportedly MJ's signature that read "see you in July 2011" and used it as the date MJ would come back. That was what I was referring to.

yeh.. i know what you mean.. i dont mess with sites to much.. the only one i really like is michaeljackosndeathhoaxforum, but i really dont visit it often, i do most of my research on youtube (not just any old "michael jackson is not dead" video) there are 3 users on there that i watch.. but yeah, i get what your saying.

alphastreet said:

If someone could forge MJ's signature for a supposed All Good Entertainment signature too, then I think I've made myself clear that shit ain't real and these people were probably not fans before the death to know that, or have a selective memory

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what do you mean?

I don't believe it's his signature and anyone can forge it. Fans, people he knows, etc.

Check out Marlon's big ass house.

http://bestofmichaeljacks...n-jackson/

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Check out Marlon's big ass house.

http://bestofmichaeljacks...n-jackson/

Are there mirror's on the ceiling of that dining area? What the hell for? so you can sit back,look up,and watch yourself eat?

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i too remember the 25th very wel.

i had some kind of premonition. I didnt catch the news and i have a paper round and i have to get up aat 4 am , and i woke up and i felt that he was gone some how, and i noticed i got 2 texts andd before i read them i KNEW that my premonition was right. I cried only when i saw paris cry, and this is the only artist im so emotionally attached to. Listen to his music all theway to grandma's house on casette tape (history) and mtv MJ weekends aah those where the days

I had some too but ignored them cause I have made MJ predictions before, and didn't think they meant anything and was still in shock. Even when I went on the computer before learning of the final announcement, I knew KOP wasn't working cause mj collapsed and would die, and I was right and came on here instead which confirmed my fears and knew it was the end, still freaking out though strangely calm and quiet and also going back and forth on msn and facebook to find out wtf was happening. When Farrah died, I right away thought of MJ too and thought of how he thought he would die when Diana did and prayed for him. Even a few days when that guy from the tonight show died and someone at work brought it up, I got a thought of wondering what they would say if it were mj and not him and told the thought to go away cause I was not getting these before, and thought I was just being paranoid. I was worried someone would kill him on this tour too or harm fans and would develop paranoid thoughts too. But I never, ever thought it would actually happen, I convinced myself he's healthy enough, has enough security etc.

Statement from the Estate

motownlover said:

i too remember the 25th very wel.

i had some kind of premonition. I didnt catch the news and i have a paper round and i have to get up aat 4 am , and i woke up and i felt that he was gone some how, and i noticed i got 2 texts andd before i read them i KNEW that my premonition was right. I cried only when i saw paris cry, and this is the only artist im so emotionally attached to. Listen to his music all theway to grandma's house on casette tape (history) and mtv MJ weekends aah those where the days

I don't think it was just you who felt that. The minute Farrah Fawcett's death was announced I felt something wasn't right about that day. Also there was some strange posts on KOP the day when Michael died. Talk about eerie. It was as if I knew Michael was in trouble but just didn't know what.

I didn't know he would die but something was off too. I was supposed to feel relieved I resolved something bad going on but still didn't feel good. Was supposed to go to a funeral but missed it and it was raining a lot, and that reminded me of a family funeral from over a decade ago and how it rained, but didn't think much of it. Even 2 hours before I learned, shortly after Farrah, I felt awful and then when coming online, I was calm and freaking out all weird at the same time with a thousand thoughts in my head, yet silenced as it was unfolding. It was not the first time I would get MJ warnings but it still shocked me. I had a premonition the night before the 2003 neverland raid too. I know a lot of mj fans have spoke of having a sixth sense about him, I wonder what it all means.

Other mj fans I lost touch with for years told me that even a week before the death, they connected out of fluke and then it happened.

But I was still shocked, I wondered why I didn't feel it right away that he was gone when it was happening, I guess I was in a daze and shocked to believe it or feel it at all. It was becoming clear over the days that I did get signs but ignored them.

Timmy, what were these strange posts? I was on, but can't recall.

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