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Reply #390 posted 08/10/11 11:12pm

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Laughable.

So because a journalist wrote that, I'm supposed to buy it? lol

I go based on what McCartney himself, did and said, not what a random writer typed up about it, probably as spin at the demand of some PR guy. Paul himself was (understandably) bothered enough by it that he actually mentioned the whole thing publically (which is almost unheard of, for one artist to bring up something like this involving another in the public domain), and after it happened he and MJ never worked together in a professional capacity again, and definitely weren't seen hanging out together anywhere, so 'remained friends', my ass.

If you doubt the journalist, why not just do your own research on the matter. If you cba to do then, I think it's time to stop talking about it. There's always more than one side to a story.

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Yes, sometimes MJ was an asshole too.

I'm pretty sure MJ had an asshole too...

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Reply #391 posted 08/10/11 11:14pm

alphastreet

I respected him for being so sweet and wanted to be like that, but sometimes I really wanted him to be an asshole and play more games. I was cheering him on for holding up his middle finger and telling gloria to go to hell lol I wanted him to sport a wacko jacko t shirt to piss people off and wear something stupid with it as usual (gosh I never thought I'd miss that, it was ridiculous)

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Reply #392 posted 08/10/11 11:17pm

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alphastreet said:

^ Arnold! It's Arnold Klein!!!! lol

Nooooooooo...that's not it either. lol

Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach
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Reply #393 posted 08/10/11 11:46pm

alphastreet

EmeraldSkies said:

alphastreet said:

^ Arnold! It's Arnold Klein!!!! lol

Nooooooooo...that's not it either. lol

I was kidding....

I know you meant michael

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Reply #394 posted 08/11/11 12:11am

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EmeraldSkies said:

Nooooooooo...that's not it either. lol

I was kidding....

I know you meant michael

I knew you were kidding. smile

When I see him,I don't even think. "He sure looks like his Dad". It's weird,he just looks familiar to me. shrug

Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach
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Reply #395 posted 08/11/11 12:44am

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Timmy84 said:

Yeah! That was it.

I've always thought of Invincible as "karma" for that incident.

TTD never said who it was. He just said he was told another artist was threatened by his success. Having been a fan of TTD's from back in the day when Hardline dropped and seeing where he was in his career I always flet that it was George Michael who was the one he was refering to, in that he too was a UK artist cracking the US market.

Frankly I've heard the "threat" being linked to Michael, George Michael and Prince, so who knows.

"I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love"
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Reply #396 posted 08/11/11 12:52am

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Seriously, anyone who wants to know the history of Northen Songs, from it's inception, to Robert Holmes Acourt buying it, to MJ buying it, to his deal with Sony - you HAVE to read this book.

Northern Songs: The True Story of the "Beatles" Publishing Empire

End of story.... and now......

"I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love"
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Reply #397 posted 08/11/11 1:03am

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back to the music....

"I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love"
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Reply #398 posted 08/11/11 3:04am

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Swa said:

back to the music....

Although this is not the concert I want to see released on DVD, I'd love to see it aired on TV, maybe VH1 Classic, Centric, or Palladia

I know if they aired it once, they'd air it all the time afterwards lol

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #399 posted 08/11/11 6:50am

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Reply #400 posted 08/11/11 7:40am

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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #401 posted 08/11/11 7:57am

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dag said:

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It not Michael , it-elena

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Reply #402 posted 08/11/11 8:18am

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mjforever said:

dag said:

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It not Michael , it-elena

Really? I was fooled then.

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #403 posted 08/11/11 8:58am

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Sexayy

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Reply #404 posted 08/11/11 9:04am

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CarineMjj posted this in the Family Planning MJ Tribute thread, so I'll post this here.

Michael Jackson tribute line-up revealed

By Alan Duke, CNN
August 11, 2011 11:36 a.m. EDT
Christina Aguilera is one of the artists who will be part of the "Michael Forever: The Tribute Concert" line-up.
Christina Aguilera is one of the artists who will be part of the "Michael Forever: The Tribute Concert" line-up.
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  • Fans start registering for tickets Thursday
  • "Michael Forever: The Tribute Concert" is set for October 8 in Cardiff, Wales
  • Fans gumble because of the line-up announcement delay
  • Jackson's mother, four siblings endorse the show, but two brothers object

Los Angeles (CNN) -- Acts signed for October's tribute concert for Michael Jackson include Christina Aguilera, Leona Lewis, Smokey Robinson, Cee Lo Green and JLS, the promoters told CNN Thursday.

Members of the Jackson family taking the stage October 8 in Cardiff, Wales, include several of Michael Jackson's brothers, "the next generation of Jacksons," and 3T, which consists of Tito Jackson's three sons.

Alternative rock band Alien Ant Farm and British R&B singer Craig David are also on the bill, while other artists will be added in the next few days, according to promoter Global Live Events.

"This announcement is just the beginning, we have many more to announce," Global Live Events executive Paul Ring said. "This concert will unite various generations and musical genres, reminding everyone of just how amazing a talent Michael was."

With the "Michael Forever: The Tribute Concert" line-up now known, fans can start "registering their interest for tickets" online athttp://www.michaelforevertribute.com/ beginning Thursday, the promoter said. A lottery will determine which fans will be invited to purchase tickets, it said.

The concert in the Wales Millennium Stadium in Cardiff, which seats 75,000 people, would be at least four hours long, Global Live Events CEO Chris Hunt said.

Jackson matriarch Katherine Jackson and the promoter are scheduled to discuss the show's plans in a live broadcast on CNN Monday.

The delay produced grumbling and doubts expressed on Jackson fan websites, but promoters hope the revelation of the line-up will satisfy them. "Fans of Michael's music will get the concert they've been waiting for," Hunt said in a message posted on the promoter's website last week.

Two of the five surviving Jackson brothers, Jermaine and Randy, objected to the timing of the show, issuing a sharply worded statement last month that reflected a deep division within the Jackson family.

"We want to make clear that this does not reflect the position of the entire family," the two brothers said in a joint statement after their mother and four siblings endorsed the show.

"While we wholeheartedly support the spirit of a tribute that honors our brother, we find it impossible to support an event that is due to take place during the criminal trial surrounding Michael's death," Jermaine and Randy Jackson said.

The involuntary manslaughter trial of Michael Jackson's physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, begins in September and is expected to continue into October.

While Katherine Jackson has previously said she would attend every day of Murray's trial -- as she did when her son was tried on a sex charge -- the promoter said the Jackson mother will travel to Wales for the concert.

"In light of this, we feel it is inappropriate to be involved with such an ill-timed event and its promoter, Global Live," Randy and Jermaine Jackson said.

Their statement said the idea of the October concert was presented to the entire family in April "as an idea already in its advanced stages." The decision to go ahead with it "disrespects opinions and wishes expressed in the strongest terms" by some members of the Jackson family, they said.

The Michael Jackson Fan Club agreed with the two brothers, issuing a similar statement.

"We share their concerns that this concert is taking place at a most inappropriate time when everyone's care and attention should be focused on the matter of justice. We believe that, as stated by Jermaine and Randy, the most important tribute we can give to Michael Jackson at this time is to seek justice in his name."

Jackson fans posted messages on the concert's Facebook page questioning ticket prices and the process for buying them.

Fans must register for a chance to buy a ticket. While the website initially said the higher a pledge to a charity they make while registering, the better their chances of getting a good seat. It was later revised to say that donations are not mandatory and all applications will have an equal chance.

A portion of the concert proceeds, particularly fan pledges, will go to charities, The Aids Project LA and The Prince's Trust, the promoters said.

A spokesman for Michael Jackson's estate said last month that the promoters never sought or obtained permission from the estate's executors to use the late pop singer's name or image.

"The estate has not been contacted and is not involved with Global Live Events in the UK tribute concert announced today," spokesman Jim Bates told CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/S...bute.acts/

[Edited 8/11/11 9:04am]

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Reply #405 posted 08/11/11 10:32am

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The TTD thing was definitely MJ. As much as I love Michael, it doesn't take much to work that out.

Have any of you read the book "Howling At The Moon"? It's the autobiography of the former head of CBS, Walter Yetnikoff. During his time there, Walter was responsible for dealing with Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Michael, Barbara Streisand, Billy Joel and many more. There's some great stories about all of them in there, as well as dealings with other artists like Marvin Gaye and Mick Jagger.

Aaaanyway I don't think the TTD incident was mentioned specifically in Walter's book, but there's enough on Michael to get a good feel of how he went about business. It's a great read.

Anyway, John Branca already said that Michael threatened to stop working with him unless he dropped TTD as a client... which he then did. So, not a stretch to think he would have had similar conversations with the label.

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Reply #406 posted 08/11/11 12:06pm

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Militant said:

The TTD thing was definitely MJ. As much as I love Michael, it doesn't take much to work that out.

Have any of you read the book "Howling At The Moon"? It's the autobiography of the former head of CBS, Walter Yetnikoff. During his time there, Walter was responsible for dealing with Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Michael, Barbara Streisand, Billy Joel and many more. There's some great stories about all of them in there, as well as dealings with other artists like Marvin Gaye and Mick Jagger.

Aaaanyway I don't think the TTD incident was mentioned specifically in Walter's book, but there's enough on Michael to get a good feel of how he went about business. It's a great read.

Anyway, John Branca already said that Michael threatened to stop working with him unless he dropped TTD as a client... which he then did. So, not a stretch to think he would have had similar conversations with the label.

i've searched the 'net for when this allegedly happened, some quote from branca, something, but all i could find was the usual 'i heard that mj' did this, or 'john branca gave interview in which he said that mj said' blah blah blah. but never any citation. i remember ttd, and i don't understand why it's generally accepted here that his relative 'failure' is attributed to something mj did. people have hit albums all the time, and then fall off. maybe it's true that mj didn't want branca repping d'arby, but as someone who works in entertainment law, i know there's nothing sinister about that. it's called conflict of interests. if that makes mj 'an asshole', then half the counsel i deal with are assholes.
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Reply #407 posted 08/11/11 12:13pm

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Militant said:

The TTD thing was definitely MJ. As much as I love Michael, it doesn't take much to work that out.

Have any of you read the book "Howling At The Moon"? It's the autobiography of the former head of CBS, Walter Yetnikoff. During his time there, Walter was responsible for dealing with Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Michael, Barbara Streisand, Billy Joel and many more. There's some great stories about all of them in there, as well as dealings with other artists like Marvin Gaye and Mick Jagger.

Aaaanyway I don't think the TTD incident was mentioned specifically in Walter's book, but there's enough on Michael to get a good feel of how he went about business. It's a great read.

Anyway, John Branca already said that Michael threatened to stop working with him unless he dropped TTD as a client... which he then did. So, not a stretch to think he would have had similar conversations with the label.

I had that book and threw it away dammit, trying to downsize. Anyway, just read a fantastic article about TTD where the writer called columbia's neglect "criminal". http://www.zeitgeistyrepo...ent-darby/ good read although it puts it down to america just not appreciating it's own gifts.

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Reply #408 posted 08/11/11 12:56pm

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Reply #409 posted 08/11/11 12:58pm

Timmy84

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I always thought this GIF was funny lol

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Reply #410 posted 08/11/11 1:01pm

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Timmy84 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

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I always thought this GIF was funny lol

GUY: Mike, can you believe your family is still going ahead with that tribute concert?

MJ: Aw hell naw man! Oh wait, this is my family you're talking about, yeah I can believe it.

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Reply #411 posted 08/11/11 1:02pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

Timmy84 said:

I always thought this GIF was funny lol

GUY: Mike, can you believe your family is still going ahead with that tribute concert?

MJ: Aw hell naw man! Oh wait, this is my family you're talking about, yeah I can believe it.

lol

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Reply #412 posted 08/11/11 1:33pm

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mozfonky said:

Militant said:

The TTD thing was definitely MJ. As much as I love Michael, it doesn't take much to work that out.

Have any of you read the book "Howling At The Moon"? It's the autobiography of the former head of CBS, Walter Yetnikoff. During his time there, Walter was responsible for dealing with Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Michael, Barbara Streisand, Billy Joel and many more. There's some great stories about all of them in there, as well as dealings with other artists like Marvin Gaye and Mick Jagger.

Aaaanyway I don't think the TTD incident was mentioned specifically in Walter's book, but there's enough on Michael to get a good feel of how he went about business. It's a great read.

Anyway, John Branca already said that Michael threatened to stop working with him unless he dropped TTD as a client... which he then did. So, not a stretch to think he would have had similar conversations with the label.

I had that book and threw it away dammit, trying to downsize. Anyway, just read a fantastic article about TTD where the writer called columbia's neglect "criminal". http://www.zeitgeistyrepo...ent-darby/ good read although it puts it down to america just not appreciating it's own gifts.

TTD/Sanada said this on his blog in 2009

Me and the Master Jackson’s relationship was unfortunately far too complicated for digestible print concerning mass consumption. Be all of that as it may, may his Eternal Spirit rest in peace!

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #413 posted 08/11/11 1:37pm

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Interesting, I am a myspace friend of his, in fact he posted on my page, very generous guy.

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Reply #414 posted 08/11/11 1:47pm

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mozfonky said:

Interesting, I am a myspace friend of his, in fact he posted on my page, very generous guy.

He's struck me as a really cool person

I'm trying to decipher and analyze that statement lol What do you think he means?

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Reply #415 posted 08/11/11 1:51pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

Timmy84 said:

I always thought this GIF was funny lol

GUY: Mike, can you believe your family is still going ahead with that tribute concert?

MJ: Aw hell naw man! Oh wait, this is my family you're talking about, yeah I can believe it.

falloff Love that gif.

Catching the news after being away to Budapest to see Prince, I thought this was funny. Look at the way Prince claps at 0:50. lol Where the hell have I already seen it?

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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #416 posted 08/11/11 1:51pm

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mozfonky said:

Interesting, I am a myspace friend of his, in fact he posted on my page, very generous guy.

He's struck me as a really cool person

I'm trying to decipher and analyze that statement lol What do you think he means?

In layman's terms: "I had problems with dude in terms of ever forming a relationship but he was real cool and I love him. Rest in peace." lol

Terence seems to have gotten real spiritual since moving to Italy. lol

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Reply #417 posted 08/11/11 1:53pm

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bboy87 said:

mozfonky said:

Interesting, I am a myspace friend of his, in fact he posted on my page, very generous guy.

He's struck me as a really cool person

I'm trying to decipher and analyze that statement lol What do you think he means?

who knows, very vague and cryptic and D'arby/maitreya has always been out there. I think he thought he was a prophet during the fish stuff, which actually, some of us artists are. Recently, Bruce Springsteen said that him and his sax man lived in past lives together and would in the future. Musicians are on different wavelengths. TTD could be meaning that MJ sabotaged him or that he had some kind of ESP type of relationship with him. I'm telling you, most of us nuttier than a fruitcake, Prince thought he had ESP and that he had a girl living in him.

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Reply #418 posted 08/11/11 1:56pm

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bboy87 said:

mozfonky said:

Interesting, I am a myspace friend of his, in fact he posted on my page, very generous guy.

He's struck me as a really cool person

I'm trying to decipher and analyze that statement lol What do you think he means?

Translation: I'm batshit insane and I need help. lol

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Reply #419 posted 08/11/11 1:56pm

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bboy87 said:

mozfonky said:

Interesting, I am a myspace friend of his, in fact he posted on my page, very generous guy.

He's struck me as a really cool person

I'm trying to decipher and analyze that statement lol What do you think he means?

and he has always been one of my main vocal influences, always, not saying i'm even close to the guy because i'm not. But playing his music for a dueling pianist I worked with he closed his eyes and said "that's you", it would be hard to hear that for most people though because of different ranges etc..,

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