Musicslave said:

Timmy84 said:

Fuck you Katherine, fuck you Joseph, fuck you Rebbie, fuck you Jackie, fuck you Tito, fuck you Jermaine, fuck you La Toya, fuck you Marlon, fuck you Randy, fuck all of you. I feel like playing "Hit 'Em Up" by 2Pac because of this bullshit.

"Five shots but you punks didn't finish, now you're about to feel the wrath of a menace, nigga I'll hit 'em up!"

"It's been 2 years". What kind of bullshit is that?

Hey Timmy,

Why don't you tell us how you reallly feel? Na, I feel ya. It's really sad

If I was interviewing them, I would have asked for the names of the charities. If this thing blows up in their faces as an obvious ploy for money, they can forget future support from Michael's fans. Hell, it appears that that is happening already based on the inclusion of KISS.

If I had Jackson 5 or Jacksons CDs, I'd burn them up. Nah but seriously, this is disgusting.

Timmy84 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Did you watch the video Timmy? I was having a hard time believing she actually said that quote. Then I watched the video and I had to pic my jaw up off the floor. What mother says something like that about the death of their own child? A parent NEVER gets over the death of a child--it can be 20 years later and they will still feel pain. And I still dont get why Jerm and Rand were there but didnt say anything. I dont have anymore words for this!

I'm TOO DISGUSTED to watch. This woman used her son if you believe the biographies printed about the family. She was just as bad as Joe at it and then on top of it, you got some groveling so-called grown-ass men and women who don't know how to be a brother or sister trying to get him for money. They don't care about sense, dollar bills have always been their weakness since leaving Gary.

Don't no much about Katherine using her son, haven't read any of those biographies. BUT I couldn't agree with you more on your last statement. Greed is a ugly dog

Maybe she should listen to "Money" by Michael Jackson

Musicslave said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm TOO DISGUSTED to watch. This woman used her son if you believe the biographies printed about the family. She was just as bad as Joe at it and then on top of it, you got some groveling so-called grown-ass men and women who don't know how to be a brother or sister trying to get him for money. They don't care about sense, dollar bills have always been their weakness since leaving Gary.

Don't no much about Katherine using her son, haven't read any of those biographies. BUT I couldn't agree with you more on your last statement. Greed is a ugly dog

Maybe she should listen to "Money" by Michael Jackson

You have to read on how she convinced Michael to do the Victory tour and how she almost about got him convinced to do that performance with some Korean family, which was obviously a scam. There's more.

Timmy84 said:

Musicslave said:

Don't no much about Katherine using her son, haven't read any of those biographies. BUT I couldn't agree with you more on your last statement. Greed is a ugly dog

Maybe she should listen to "Money" by Michael Jackson

You have to read on how she convinced Michael to do the Victory tour and how she almost about got him convinced to do that performance with some Korean family, which was obviously a scam. There's more.

Oh damn I remember hearing about Katherine being the one with the real power in the family not Joe. She seemed to have more clout with the kids because she was "Mother" versus that mean ole man Joseph They're fucked up man To walk out of that bloodline unscathed is a miracle.

Musicslave said:

Timmy84 said:

You have to read on how she convinced Michael to do the Victory tour and how she almost about got him convinced to do that performance with some Korean family, which was obviously a scam. There's more.

Oh damn I remember hearing about Katherine being the one with the real power in the family not Joe. She seemed to have more clout with the kids because she was "Mother" versus that mean ole man Joseph They're fucked up man To walk out of that bloodline unscathed is a miracle.

Janet is probably the only one seeing as apart from "interventions", she seems to know what's really up. The rest of them though...

Timmy84 said:

Musicslave said:

Oh damn I remember hearing about Katherine being the one with the real power in the family not Joe. She seemed to have more clout with the kids because she was "Mother" versus that mean ole man Joseph They're fucked up man To walk out of that bloodline unscathed is a miracle.

Janet is probably the only one seeing as apart from "interventions", she seems to know what's really up. The rest of them though...

Yeah, Janet will always be my baby. But Joe fucked her up too with her poor body image. But I agree in regards to "knowing what's up". I couldn't take it if she ends up being apart of this travesty too. She typically stands clear of all Jackson drama, which is wise and best.

Musicslave said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm TOO DISGUSTED to watch. This woman used her son if you believe the biographies printed about the family. She was just as bad as Joe at it and then on top of it, you got some groveling so-called grown-ass men and women who don't know how to be a brother or sister trying to get him for money. They don't care about sense, dollar bills have always been their weakness since leaving Gary.

Don't no much about Katherine using her son, haven't read any of those biographies. BUT I couldn't agree with you more on your last statement. Greed is a ugly dog

Maybe she should listen to "Money" by Michael Jackson

I think the people who are blaming Katherine now are misunderstanding something! I think she is taken advantage off. That woman is 80 years old! They came to her with a great idea and totally go about it the wrong way. I don't think she is this evil mastermind... geez, at the end there of that CNN interview she doesn't even know the name of the organizer guy sitting next to her.

Katherine just sounds like she's trying not to get emotionally involved anymore, and if she has thoughts like that, that is the kind of thing she should filter on national TV, cause it doesn't put her or the family in a good light. I don't want to believe she doesn't care anymore cause I'm sure she does, but to get involved with Marc Shaffel, then Gene Simmons and now saying this just makes it look like this family loves attention, even if it means negative attention and they can't live without it. And though Michael is not like them, I can now understand why he craved attention too in his own way, though for a good cause a lot of times and not for the sake of selling his soul and making blood money, cause that's what it is.

Timmy, I'm surprised you don't have the J5 albums if I had mj's money, I'd totally ship you a whole collection or something though I know you must have mp3's or something. There's nothing like good, old-fashioned hard copies of a collection.

I'm sorry, I know Katherine's ailing and all but I think she's healthy enough to take responsibility for her actions so she's just as guilty. As hurtful as it is to say those things about her, sometimes the truth is nasty and ugly. And this is about a woman, the only relative Michael REALLY trusted. Nobody in that stupid family has sense to tell her she's being used anyways, they're just waiting for the money.

alphastreet said:

Katherine just sounds like she's trying not to get emotionally involved anymore, and if she has thoughts like that, that is the kind of thing she should filter on national TV, cause it doesn't put her or the family in a good light. I don't want to believe she doesn't care anymore cause I'm sure she does, but to get involved with Marc Shaffel, then Gene Simmons and now saying this just makes it look like this family loves attention, even if it means negative attention and they can't live without it. And though Michael is not like them, I can now understand why he craved attention too in his own way, though for a good cause a lot of times and not for the sake of selling his soul and making blood money, cause that's what it is.

Timmy, I'm surprised you don't have the J5 albums if I had mj's money, I'd totally ship you a whole collection or something though I know you must have mp3's or something. There's nothing like good, old-fashioned hard copies of a collection.

I never really was interested tbh... I always thought most Motown albums had a lot of filler in it. I mean half of the J5's material had covers in it. I always heard the non-cover album tracks on YouTube anyway. The Jacksons' albums were more cohesive though.

I think if Katherine really cared, she had put her foot down a long time ago when Joe and the other brothers basically begged on their knees to get Michael to do that concert.

Maybe no one in the family really knows who is saying what if it's really true MJ kept them at distance, and it seems like fans know more about who's sketchy and who isn't, but it's not like they will give us the time of day, they have their own life and will not bend over backwards for that. Though I believe Katherine is vulnerable too and was grieving, I feel sorry for MJ's kids the most, are THEY going to be influenced by all these people too if this is the kind of stuff we are hearing? I even sometimes question Rebbie and who she hangs with,and Marlon's nieces and so forth. Though I feel sorry for Latoya and all the abuse she endured and understand why she did what she did and she's taking responsiblity,how are those kids going to react when they know about Jack Gordon, Tel Aviv and those other appearances? I didn't think MJ would go so soon, but I didn't think he would grow to 90 either but wanted him to live at least until all the kids were adults if not longer. I thought he would live till sometime in his 60's like James Brown or something. I didn't have a good feeling about the family. I'm thankful they leave Janet alone too, and now I understand even more why she stays away and why she fell into depression all those years and had insecurities even during her creative peak years. She did the right thing being "the normal one" and that's why I respect her so much despite what MJ fans say about her. I'm not so sure about what the intervention talk was on Oprah and other shows, but I think Janet would be more fit to raise the kids though I'm sure MJ had good reasons for not putting her down. Maybe the family would have targetted her if she had them.

Timmy84 said:

alphastreet said:

Katherine just sounds like she's trying not to get emotionally involved anymore, and if she has thoughts like that, that is the kind of thing she should filter on national TV, cause it doesn't put her or the family in a good light. I don't want to believe she doesn't care anymore cause I'm sure she does, but to get involved with Marc Shaffel, then Gene Simmons and now saying this just makes it look like this family loves attention, even if it means negative attention and they can't live without it. And though Michael is not like them, I can now understand why he craved attention too in his own way, though for a good cause a lot of times and not for the sake of selling his soul and making blood money, cause that's what it is.

Timmy, I'm surprised you don't have the J5 albums if I had mj's money, I'd totally ship you a whole collection or something though I know you must have mp3's or something. There's nothing like good, old-fashioned hard copies of a collection.

I never really was interested tbh... I always thought most Motown albums had a lot of filler in it. I mean half of the J5's material had covers in it. I always heard the non-cover album tracks on YouTube anyway. The Jacksons' albums were more cohesive though.

I think if Katherine really cared, she had put her foot down a long time ago when Joe and the other brothers basically begged on their knees to get Michael to do that concert.

yeah I also prefer the epic albums as a whole, and just a few motown ones though they are worth it for the the strong tracks. I love Dancing Machine, DR Presents the J5, ABC, Get It Together, Moving Violation best

even when MJ passed and we first heard heart attack,I seriously thought he died from all the pressure from everywhere and felt he was at peace away from that and wondered if the family felt remorseful though of course at first I thought it was awful they outlived him, but then Joe at BET was the final straw....and maybe Katherine still feels controlled though I know Joe lives in Vegas now, I wonder if he still controls her. I don't agree with how she's acting at all and she's older now too and easy to be taken advantage of, even by her husband.

I almost wish I believed the hoax and this stupid ass concert was MJ's comeback and he could tell everyone to fuck off, but it's not and now we have articles making all fans look like idiots cause of "clues" And even if he was faking it, it's not like he would show himself, people will not take it well and he will be in more danger and get no sympathy from the public. And fans will not feel things are back to normal, I don't think him being will restore happiness as much as we want to believe. Some even think he'll tour again, that's delusional.

[Edited 8/15/11 14:20pm]

Sorry I don't know how to make it a link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFepMwG50jk&feature=player_embedded#at=59

Gene Simmons talking about MJ.

JoeVogel1 Joe Vogel
Gene Simmons at an MJ Tribute? Wow...How does this happen in the age of google? No excuse for this.

My message to the Jackson family...y'all need help. Seriously...

And this is the woman Michael deemed a saint...

And another reason why MJ was so damn naive. If he couldn't see through who he thought were close family members, of course he couldn't see through wolves in sheep clothing that he kept around him. All we can say is that no one can hurt him now, but I worry for those kids.

[Edited 8/15/11 15:19pm]

Timmy84 said:

I'm TOO DISGUSTED to watch. This woman used her son if you believe the biographies printed about the family. She was just as bad as Joe at it and then on top of it, you got some groveling so-called grown-ass men and women who don't know how to be a brother or sister trying to get him for money. They don't care about sense, dollar bills have always been their weakness since leaving Gary.

Someone is about to cry

manthevan said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm TOO DISGUSTED to watch. This woman used her son if you believe the biographies printed about the family. She was just as bad as Joe at it and then on top of it, you got some groveling so-called grown-ass men and women who don't know how to be a brother or sister trying to get him for money. They don't care about sense, dollar bills have always been their weakness since leaving Gary.

Someone is about to cry

Yeah them once the tribute concert is canceled.

Also it's interesting to note Global Live ain't saying a daaaaaaaaaaaamn thing. They know they fucked up now.

Timmy84 said:

manthevan said:

Someone is about to cry

Yeah them once the tribute concert is canceled.

I'ma give you a hug...just cuz I feel like it.

Yeah.. the only news we got is from Jackie... check this out:

JackieJackson5 Jackie Jackson
Just spoke to my brother Marlon and he says hello
28 minutes ago

Also, some fans have been lurking on Kiss's fanpages and their reaction is just the same as us, they don't get it at all.

MJJC will releasae a statement shortly about this mess.

And we should get a statement from the Estate too soon I guess, they said today.

MJJCommunity Official Statement about Michael Forever Tribute

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah them once the tribute concert is canceled.

I'ma give you a hug...just cuz I feel like it.

Thank ya. back.

carinemjj said:

MJJCommunity Official Statement about Michael Forever Tribute

For the last few weeks MJJCommunity maintained a neutral position towards Michael Forever Tribute due to our love and respect for Katherine Jackson. August 15th developments and the announcement of Kiss as an act in Michael Forever Tribute left us no choice but the voice our concerns.

As many of the fans had already made it clear, the timing of the concert during the middle involuntary manslaughter trial of Michael Jackson and the steep and questionable pricing / charity donation was also one of our major concerns as MJJC. Although we are happy to see any artists do a tribute to Michael, we weren’t quite satisfied with the caliber of the artists announced. However nothing was more troublesome than the involvement of Gene Simmons (Kiss) who in multiple statements mentioned that he believed Michael Jackson to be guilty of molesting kids.

There’s no justification to the involvement Gene Simmons, who said “ There’s no question in my mind he molested those kids. Not a doubt.” (Classic Rock Magazine Interview) and “Michael's children...none of whom are biologically his” (Gene Simmons Facebook) and alleged that Michael took underage boys to Brazil (Dean Blundell Show), in a tribute that’s supposed to honor Michael and where his kids will be present. Furthermore just the announcement of his participation once again brought all these negative statements to the main focus of the media. Global Live Events are guilty of not doing their homework and once again helping to drag Michael’s name through the mud. This is not something we need especially not right before the trial of Conrad Murray.

We want to make it known that we as MJJC do not support Michael Forever Tribute for the above mentioned reasons. We urge the fans not to attend and make a statement to the organizers to show that we aren’t happy about the conditions of this tribute and how the memory of Michael is treated.

Sincerely

MJJCommunity.com

About damn time...

carinemjj said:

MJJCommunity Official Statement about Michael Forever Tribute

For the last few weeks MJJCommunity maintained a neutral position towards Michael Forever Tribute due to our love and respect for Katherine Jackson. August 15th developments and the announcement of Kiss as an act in Michael Forever Tribute left us no choice but the voice our concerns.

As many of the fans had already made it clear, the timing of the concert during the middle involuntary manslaughter trial of Michael Jackson and the steep and questionable pricing / charity donation was also one of our major concerns as MJJC. Although we are happy to see any artists do a tribute to Michael, we weren’t quite satisfied with the caliber of the artists announced. However nothing was more troublesome than the involvement of Gene Simmons (Kiss) who in multiple statements mentioned that he believed Michael Jackson to be guilty of molesting kids.

There’s no justification to the involvement Gene Simmons, who said “ There’s no question in my mind he molested those kids. Not a doubt.” (Classic Rock Magazine Interview) and “Michael's children...none of whom are biologically his” (Gene Simmons Facebook) and alleged that Michael took underage boys to Brazil (Dean Blundell Show), in a tribute that’s supposed to honor Michael and where his kids will be present. Furthermore just the announcement of his participation once again brought all these negative statements to the main focus of the media. Global Live Events are guilty of not doing their homework and once again helping to drag Michael’s name through the mud. This is not something we need especially not right before the trial of Conrad Murray.

We want to make it known that we as MJJC do not support Michael Forever Tribute for the above mentioned reasons. We urge the fans not to attend and make a statement to the organizers to show that we aren’t happy about the conditions of this tribute and how the memory of Michael is treated.

Sincerely

MJJCommunity.com

I HATE MJJC, but the community is huge and maybe they can make a difference.

[Edited 8/15/11 15:50pm]

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah them once the tribute concert is canceled.

I'ma give you a hug...just cuz I feel like it.

He seems to need all the hugs he can get He seems devastated over the state of the Jacksons.

Personally I don't think this tribute will take place but if it somehow will see the ligth of day I don't care. I will not attend but if the Jacksons get some money I don't mind. Maybe that will make them stop making some of those pointless interviews.

carinemjj said:

MJJCommunity Official Statement about Michael Forever Tribute

For the last few weeks MJJCommunity maintained a neutral position towards Michael Forever Tribute due to our love and respect for Katherine Jackson. August 15th developments and the announcement of Kiss as an act in Michael Forever Tribute left us no choice but the voice our concerns.

As many of the fans had already made it clear, the timing of the concert during the middle involuntary manslaughter trial of Michael Jackson and the steep and questionable pricing / charity donation was also one of our major concerns as MJJC. Although we are happy to see any artists do a tribute to Michael, we weren’t quite satisfied with the caliber of the artists announced. However nothing was more troublesome than the involvement of Gene Simmons (Kiss) who in multiple statements mentioned that he believed Michael Jackson to be guilty of molesting kids.

There’s no justification to the involvement Gene Simmons, who said “ There’s no question in my mind he molested those kids. Not a doubt.” (Classic Rock Magazine Interview) and “Michael's children...none of whom are biologically his” (Gene Simmons Facebook) and alleged that Michael took underage boys to Brazil (Dean Blundell Show), in a tribute that’s supposed to honor Michael and where his kids will be present. Furthermore just the announcement of his participation once again brought all these negative statements to the main focus of the media. Global Live Events are guilty of not doing their homework and once again helping to drag Michael’s name through the mud. This is not something we need especially not right before the trial of Conrad Murray.

We want to make it known that we as MJJC do not support Michael Forever Tribute for the above mentioned reasons. We urge the fans not to attend and make a statement to the organizers to show that we aren’t happy about the conditions of this tribute and how the memory of Michael is treated.

Sincerely

MJJCommunity.com

One of the few times I commend MJJF/MJJC...

manthevan said:

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

I'ma give you a hug...just cuz I feel like it.

He seems to need all the hugs he can get He seems devastated over the state of the Jacksons.

Personally I don't think this tribute will take place but if it somehow will see the ligth of day I don't care. I will not attend but if the Jacksons get some money I don't mind. Maybe that will make them stop making some of those pointless interviews.

Nah I'm not devastated, I'm pissed off. I stopped crying about these fools years ago.