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Thread started 03/01/11 6:41am

cinnamongal

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LaToya Jackson and MJ fans

Guys i have been watching/reading documentaries related to LaToya Jackson about the way she was raised, her betrayal of the family, etc. and about her marriage to that manipulative husband of hers (i can't remember his name nor care to) and it just dawned on me: will MJ fans EVER forgive her for the way she betrayed her family especially MJ? i mean what she did to the entire Jackson family name back in the 90's was CRAZY as hell, but will we ever forgive this woman for almost throwing MJ under a train just for publicity?confused

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Reply #1 posted 03/01/11 6:49am

SoulAlive

I can't believe the way she betrayed Michael in the 90s disbelief I saw her on one of those 'Inside Edition'-type shows,talking about all these "checks" that Michael had given to the parents of the children who came to Neverland....basically,she was calling her brother a child molester! I'm surprised that he was able to forgive her.

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Reply #2 posted 03/01/11 6:54am

UncleDooDoo

Her ex husband's name is Tommy Mattola.

I don't like her. i probably will never like her nor forgive her. But Michael was a very caring and forgiving person. He forgave her a long time ago, as did the family.

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Reply #3 posted 03/01/11 7:07am

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UncleDooDoo said:

Her ex husband's name is Tommy Mattola.

I don't like her. i probably will never like her nor forgive her. But Michael was a very caring and forgiving person. He forgave her a long time ago, as did the family.

What? That was Mariah's ex. His name was Jack Gordon.

Well, since Mike seemed to forgive her, I did too.

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Reply #4 posted 03/01/11 7:07am

LightOfArt

UncleDooDoo said:

Her ex husband's name is Tommy Mattola.

No that's the ex head of Sony Music. Jack Gordon is the name of her ex husband who died couple of years ago

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Reply #5 posted 03/01/11 7:08am

LightOfArt

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What? That was Mariah's ex. His name was Jack Gordon.

Well, since Mike seemed to forgive her, I did too.

damn you're faster than me giggle

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Reply #6 posted 03/01/11 7:33am

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UncleDooDoo said:

Her ex husband's name is Tommy Mattola.

I don't like her. i probably will never like her nor forgive her. But Michael was a very caring and forgiving person. He forgave her a long time ago, as did the family.

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Reply #7 posted 03/01/11 8:14am

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I love Latoya! but only because she is this fucked up family member.

We'll never know what really goes on in a family like the Jacksons, so i don't think you should ask yourself if you can forgive her. She didn't do anything to you, so what's there to forgive?

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Reply #8 posted 03/01/11 8:25am

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I hated her for years, but the minute I learned her life was threatened, as well as michael and janet's, I forgave her too but never forgot it

And here is something else a lot of fans overlook. Latoya was saying her brother would never do that, before she started trashing him like that, Jack Gordon (or should I say Tommy?) took advantage of everything weak about her and made her do those things. It's not easy being in an abusive relationship and fearing for your life if you don't do this or that, even though it is terrible what she did.

And by the way, she's not that bad, she makes me crack up and I believe she exagerrates thinks, but she's just quirky, and I guess that just makes her latoya

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Reply #9 posted 03/01/11 8:29am

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MJ fans are nutty. They're always shitting on his family members.

I don't have anything against LaToya, I don't know the woman. Yeah, maybe she said some messed up things about her family, but they seem to have forgiven her for it and don't hold anything against her, so I think the fans need to just be quiet and worry about their own families.

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Reply #10 posted 03/01/11 9:26am

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I like LaToya. I don't hold the Jack Gordon stuff against her. Everybody makes mistakes.

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Reply #11 posted 03/01/11 9:29am

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Eh whatever lol

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Reply #12 posted 03/01/11 3:47pm

UncleDooDoo

*slaps head* i meant jack gordon. i swear. I was looking over old pictures from the 2002 Sony Demonstration in NY i was at, so i had tommy mattola on the brain.

and Michael fans aren't "nutty". that's pretty insulting and highly judgemental seeing you probably don't know many real Michael fans. I'm not nutty. My friends aren't nutty. His fans SHOULD be pissed and angry with her for saying that she KNOWS FOR A FACT that her brother molests children. why is ANYONE nutty for being upset with someone who could have played a very big part in putting her own brother in jail (if it had gone that far back in '93) for something he didn't do?! THAT is nutty.

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Reply #13 posted 03/01/11 4:00pm

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Horrible thing to say, but I have no reason to be mad at her. The only one who does is Michael.

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Reply #14 posted 03/01/11 4:03pm

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UncleDooDoo said:

*slaps head* i meant jack gordon. i swear. I was looking over old pictures from the 2002 Sony Demonstration in NY i was at, so i had tommy mattola on the brain.

and Michael fans aren't "nutty". that's pretty insulting and highly judgemental seeing you probably don't know many real Michael fans. I'm not nutty. My friends aren't nutty. His fans SHOULD be pissed and angry with her for saying that she KNOWS FOR A FACT that her brother molests children. why is ANYONE nutty for being upset with someone who could have played a very big part in putting her own brother in jail (if it had gone that far back in '93) for something he didn't do?! THAT is nutty.

C'mon, every celebrity has a section of fans who, shall we say, are overboard. We see it with the Elvis, Michael & Mariah stans. Beyonce and Lady Gaga have their share, too. Nothing for the normal fans to get upset about. smile

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Reply #15 posted 03/01/11 4:12pm

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Speaking of Latoya, she's gonna be on this season of Celebrity Apprentice, which airs this Sunday I think. I plan on watching it to see how she does smile

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Reply #16 posted 03/01/11 8:37pm

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cinnamongal said:

Guys i have been watching/reading documentaries related to LaToya Jackson about the way she was raised, her betrayal of the family, etc. and about her marriage to that manipulative husband of hers (i can't remember his name nor care to) and it just dawned on me: will MJ fans EVER forgive her for the way she betrayed her family especially MJ? i mean what she did to the entire Jackson family name back in the 90's was CRAZY as hell, but will we ever forgive this woman for almost throwing MJ under a train just for publicity?confused

I've forgiven LaToya long after Michael AND Janet had forgiven her. And beside, Jack Gordon was the one that kidnapped AND brainwashed her.

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Reply #17 posted 03/01/11 8:56pm

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Well, the beef is within the family so they have to deal with what she did as well as she does. I mean, she did do some pretty terrible things to her family, but who knows wtf was going on between them at the time and with her as well. (A lot of things sure.) Anyways, blood is thicker than water which is why I'm more than sure that they forgave her. I mean...to many of his fans she will never be in their good graces, but to them that is their family, y'know?

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Reply #18 posted 03/02/11 3:02am

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my heart does go out to la toya. i don't have anything against her. she's been through a lot. i can see where she's coming from. i think she tried to help in a lot of ways, and it backfired. but then she WAS kidnapped by gordon, and beaten. and it's been discussed elsewhere on this site, but in many ways it was with the help of her parents. and when he actually took her that's when they complained.

but yeah, when she was on israeli television saying her brother did that to children, i cringed. because she initially said he would NOT do that, then said he did.

i think michael forgave her, because he understood... he recognized the effects of abuse. she's got a whole lot of healing to do. and of course, being in that family, it's hard.

you can see, in this video, she and michael have a lot of the same mannerisms. just like janet.

i'll just say this: if mottola did to mariah carey what gordon did to la toya... whoo. i think ms. carey was kidnapped and controlled in a way as well. her behavior later on, i'm not surprised at all. but thatr's a whole different thread, eh?

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Reply #19 posted 03/02/11 3:27am

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Timmy84 said:

Eh whatever lol

so i'm guessing u will never ever forgive her right? lol

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Reply #20 posted 03/02/11 3:55am

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cinnamongal said:

Timmy84 said:

Eh whatever lol

so i'm guessing u will never ever forgive her right? lol

i think tim's just through with the conversation. HA!

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Reply #21 posted 03/02/11 6:45am

SoulAlive

UncleDooDoo said:

Michael fans aren't "nutty". that's pretty insulting and highly judgemental seeing you probably don't know many real Michael fans. I'm not nutty. My friends aren't nutty. His fans SHOULD be pissed and angry with her for saying that she KNOWS FOR A FACT that her brother molests children. why is ANYONE nutty for being upset with someone who could have played a very big part in putting her own brother in jail (if it had gone that far back in '93) for something he didn't do?! THAT is nutty.

Very good point.Whatever happened to family loyalty? In the 90s,LaToya turned on Michael,forgetting about all the things he had done to help out her useless career (casting her in a few music videos,having her sing backup vocals on "PYT",writing a song for her first album,etc).

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Reply #22 posted 03/02/11 9:02am

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Y'all can say whatever y'all want to about that crazy bitch but I remember her telling one of the talk show hosts back in the 1990s, I think it was Geraldo, that Janet was secretly married and years later it came out that it was true.

Latoya said she had met Janet somewhere in Minneapolis and that she (Latoya) still had on her microphone from an interview she had just finished. She said that when Janet saw the microphone, she hit the roof and started screaming...."Are you taping this!" Then she told Geraldo (I think) that Janet was secretly married which we later found out was true.

If she was telling the truth about this, who knows what else she was telling the truth about and people may have dismissed it because she was such a crazy bitch.

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Reply #23 posted 03/02/11 9:05am

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MJJstudent said:

cinnamongal said:

so i'm guessing u will never ever forgive her right? lol

i think tim's just through with the conversation. HA!

Yeah. lol

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Reply #24 posted 03/02/11 9:37am

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...cuz Michael was the epitomy of sanity and fair play. I loved Michael, but he was just a man at the end of the day, a man with some wicked insomnia. The real question is can we forgive Katherine? Can we forgive Katherine for allowing all of Joe's bullshit to eat at those Jackson kids for year after year? Latoya is just a small fry in the scheme of things.

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Reply #25 posted 03/02/11 9:48am

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allsmutaside said:

...cuz Michael was the epitomy of sanity and fair play. I loved Michael, but he was just a man at the end of the day, a man with some wicked insomnia. The real question is can we forgive Katherine? Can we forgive Katherine for allowing all of Joe's bullshit to eat at those Jackson kids for year after year? Latoya is just a small fry in the scheme of things.

Joe and Katherine come from another planet I'm convinced. confused

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Reply #26 posted 03/02/11 9:52am

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Just a quick question:

would you all give a damn about this lady and his crappy music if she wasn't a member of the Jackson family? I mean, something like LaToya Williams, for example

I mean, this lady is not even worth talking about... neutral

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Reply #27 posted 03/02/11 10:09am

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JoeTyler said:

Just a quick question:

would you all give a damn about this lady and his crappy music if she wasn't a member of the Jackson family? I mean, something like LaToya Williams, for example

I mean, this lady is not even worth talking about... neutral

I don't give her a damn about her now. Fuck her name. That name ain't even worth it nowadays. It's more of a laughingstock now that Michael's left. Only Janet can keep it from being a full laughingstock.

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Reply #28 posted 03/02/11 10:22am

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Timmy84 said:

allsmutaside said:

...cuz Michael was the epitomy of sanity and fair play. I loved Michael, but he was just a man at the end of the day, a man with some wicked insomnia. The real question is can we forgive Katherine? Can we forgive Katherine for allowing all of Joe's bullshit to eat at those Jackson kids for year after year? Latoya is just a small fry in the scheme of things.

Joe and Katherine come from another planet I'm convinced. confused

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Wow! That's all you had to say, I understand everything now.

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Reply #29 posted 03/02/11 10:32am

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allsmutaside said:

Timmy84 said:

Joe and Katherine come from another planet I'm convinced. confused

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Wow! That's all you had to say, I understand everything now.

I mean anybody that excuse the type of "punishment" inflicted on them and not get advised psychologically says a lot about a family's well being. They've proven to be ill-equipped when it comes to the trappings of fame. Joe's dealings with Leonard Rowe and Katherine's current dealings with Howard Mann have proven that.

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