Superstition said:

All I Need has those trademwark whiney, wibble-wobble vocals of all the other songs from those sessions. These sound like okay songs, but they are totally void of anything MJ to me.

Really surprised there is such a divide as to whether they are legit or not.

CPest1 said:

Vanilli said:

I've got some acapella tracks also, so if you wanna sample those, it can give it that touch

to fool the musicogoists. Maybe we can go on Oprah to. I have MJ's autograph. Is that

enough to vouch that our tracks will be REAL?

Nah we don't need an autograph, just a pen that MJ held once. Then we can write the autograph, but it was with his pen, basically the same thing! Also I can be an eyewitness that he said "these are the best songs of my career, in fact they all kick the pants off Billie Jean, even though they dont sound like me."

This is easier than I imagined

You are seriously awesome. Thank you for making my day.

The outright crazyness that these songs are really MJ is really frusterating,

and along with the leaks that came out last month, mixed with humor like

yours, make it an easier pill to swallow. I can't believe I'm going to buy this

sham album - but I'd like to think - I'm helping keep Michael's legacy alive.

Now about that duets album..no internal guilt of mine will make me buy that widget

POS album. Sorry ya'll.

I can't believe this album will be on store shelves in 9 days with these awful tracks and vocals. Music critics and the general public may or may not believe its him, but they damn sure will be able to tell the huge difference in vocals. Much Too Soon, Another Day and Hold My Hand WILL look like Billie Jean compared to Monster, Breaking News and Keep Your Head Up.

Superstition said:

I can't believe this album will be on store shelves in 9 days with these awful tracks and vocals. Music critics and the general public may or may not believe its him, but they damn sure will be able to tell the huge difference in vocals. Much Too Soon, Another Day and Hold My Hand WILL look like Billie Jean compared to Monster, Breaking News and Keep Your Head Up.

Yeah.....

Listen to 'Slave To the Rhythm' , you can instantly say that it's MJ, No doubt....maybe production-wise its weak and needs some work but vocally its 100% MJ , and it shits on any cascios tracks.

It's really bewildering how some fans on MJJC say that those fake tracks are MJ, this is a disaster.

seeingvoices12 said:

Superstition said:

I can't believe this album will be on store shelves in 9 days with these awful tracks and vocals. Music critics and the general public may or may not believe its him, but they damn sure will be able to tell the huge difference in vocals. Much Too Soon, Another Day and Hold My Hand WILL look like Billie Jean compared to Monster, Breaking News and Keep Your Head Up.

Yeah.....

Listen to 'Slave To the Rhythm' , you can instantly say that it's MJ, No doubt....maybe production-wise its weak and needs some work but vocally its 100% MJ , and it shits on any cascios tracks.

It's really bewildering how some fans on MJJC say that those fake tracks are MJ, this is a disaster.

Wait, so it is him on "STTR?" I didn't get to hear it. Orgnote me?

Vanilli said:

CPest1 said:

Nah we don't need an autograph, just a pen that MJ held once. Then we can write the autograph, but it was with his pen, basically the same thing! Also I can be an eyewitness that he said "these are the best songs of my career, in fact they all kick the pants off Billie Jean, even though they dont sound like me."

This is easier than I imagined

You are seriously awesome. Thank you for making my day.

The outright crazyness that these songs are really MJ is really frusterating,

and along with the leaks that came out last month, mixed with humor like

yours, make it an easier pill to swallow. I can't believe I'm going to buy this

sham album - but I'd like to think - I'm helping keep Michael's legacy alive.

Now about that duets album..no internal guilt of mine will make me buy that widget

POS album. Sorry ya'll.

You're too kind

I think my sense of humour will disappear when I listen to the album beginning to end and realise they actually put the tracks on it. I will make sure I'm alone so no one can see me crying!

As much as I am a fan I don't care about his legacy as much as I do making sure I'm paying money for something he actually made. I won't even listen to those other tracks for free. Ever. Same with the duets album. Unless they were recorded as duets, it's gonna be a mess.

Vanilli said:

seeingvoices12 said:

Yeah.....

Listen to 'Slave To the Rhythm' , you can instantly say that it's MJ, No doubt....maybe production-wise its weak and needs some work but vocally its 100% MJ , and it shits on any cascios tracks.

It's really bewildering how some fans on MJJC say that those fake tracks are MJ, this is a disaster.

Wait, so it is him on "STTR?" I didn't get to hear it. Orgnote me?

yeah its him...I'm uploading it for ya now....*cheers*

I havent played the MJ Experience video game yet, but does anyone notice some of the dance moves are reversed? For example, we all know when MJ does his pelvic thrust at the beginning of Billie Jean, he's facing to the left, but in the game, they have "MJ" facing the right. Do the moves vary depending on if you're left or right handed?

Vanilli....did it work?

seeingvoices12 said:

Superstition said:

I can't believe this album will be on store shelves in 9 days with these awful tracks and vocals. Music critics and the general public may or may not believe its him, but they damn sure will be able to tell the huge difference in vocals. Much Too Soon, Another Day and Hold My Hand WILL look like Billie Jean compared to Monster, Breaking News and Keep Your Head Up.

Yeah.....

Listen to 'Slave To the Rhythm' , you can instantly say that it's MJ, No doubt....maybe production-wise its weak and needs some work but vocally its 100% MJ , and it shits on any cascios tracks.

It's really bewildering how some fans on MJJC say that those fake tracks are MJ, this is a disaster.

Yep you guys agree 100%..

...mean the production sounds altered with on "Slave" but the vocals is Mike...and it sounds great.

really sounds like a fruityloops beat to me..So I'm guessing somehow someone got hold of a clean acapella.

Oh yeah, 'Blue Gangsta' is the sh*t.

NMuzakNSoul said:

really sounds like a fruityloops beat to me..So I'm guessing somehow someone got hold of a clean acapella.

Maybe, despite of the fruitloopness beat of the track, it destorys the fake cascios tracks...

NMuzakNSoul said:

really sounds like a fruityloops beat to me..So I'm guessing somehow someone got hold of a clean acapella.

Boy, you know Gaga got nothin' on this s**t!

seeingvoices12 said:

NMuzakNSoul said:

really sounds like a fruityloops beat to me..So I'm guessing somehow someone got hold of a clean acapella.

Maybe, despite of the fruitloopness beat of the track, it destorys the fake cascios tracks...

yeah...lol

Slave To The Rhythm” was recorded back in 1998 ?

SherryJackson said:

NMuzakNSoul said:

really sounds like a fruityloops beat to me..So I'm guessing somehow someone got hold of a clean acapella.

Boy, you know Gaga got nothin' on this s**t!

guess it would work for the clubs in the fruitloop state ye...

seeingvoices12 said:

Slave To The Rhythm” was recorded back in 1998 ?

STTR is awesome. MJ was ahead of his time as far as sound. This sounds like

a Lady GaGa/Ke$ha beat. This track would be hot if it was released - as is.

I wish the full version would leak. The 1:24 is just enough to make me want more.

NMuzakNSoul said:

SherryJackson said:

Boy, you know Gaga got nothin' on this s**t!

guess it would work for the clubs in the fruitloop state ye...

You're probably right that MJ didn't produce this (you know your "muzak" ). However...we need the full, clean version to know that.

LOL, so "Blue Gangster" got taken down from my Tumblr due to "complaint from SONY MUSIC/ESTATE OF MICHAEL JACKSON", but it was an embedded link from my youtube account, and the YouTube upload isn't tagged with anything where they would be able to find it, and still works.

Morons.

Militant said:

LOL, so "Blue Gangster" got taken down from my Tumblr due to "complaint from SONY MUSIC/ESTATE OF MICHAEL JACKSON", but it was an embedded link from my youtube account, and the YouTube upload isn't tagged with anything where they would be able to find it, and still works.

Morons.

They simply cannot control the internet when things like this happen, songs spread and leak like wild fire, they simply cannot control it..........

Damn sleep!

So I missed "Slave to the Rhythm"

What does it sound like - anyone about to vouch for it's authentic production in both music and vocals?

As for MJ owning his masters - I believe the arrangement was set up that he would get them in the late 90s early 2000s *if* (and here's the fine print) he continued a steady flow of release for Sony. With every album delay years were added onto the hand over date. With the way MJ recorded, with years between albums, time was extended. I do believe though that he did get the rights to them before his died though. So now the estate owns them and in a sense leases the rights back to Sony.

angel345 said:

bboy87 said:

If they have plans to release it, they have rights to it. and since it looks like it's going to be on the follow up to Michael, they definitely can

Do You Know Where Your Children Are was taken down on various sites too

One more question. Since MJ was a free agent, wasn't there a deal whereas he was supposed to get his master recordings back, but he never got it? If so, it sounds like Sony reneged on that deal, correct?

From what this new detail said, Michael was originally supposed to get full ownership of his masters in 2011. this new deal extended to 2017

" Slave To the Rhythm" is an infectious song , Goregous and a grower

Swa said:

Damn sleep!

So I missed "Slave to the Rhythm"

What does it sound like - anyone about to vouch for it's authentic production in both music and vocals?

Vocals are 100% MJ. No questions at all, and they are original.

Beat is questionable. It is an infections but generic club beat. It's not a bad song, but I'm not crazy about the techno beat (think one of the remixes from Blood On The Dancefloor).

Militant said:

LOL, so "Blue Gangster" got taken down from my Tumblr due to "complaint from SONY MUSIC/ESTATE OF MICHAEL JACKSON", but it was an embedded link from my youtube account, and the YouTube upload isn't tagged with anything where they would be able to find it, and still works.

Morons.

Ay, this is one of the reasons I love sharing music with you guys. I think MJ would want us to enjoy his music, albeit not the greatest way...but what to do when Sony is trying to screw you over? I take personally pleasure sticking it to Sony and the Estate. For the fake songs they're tryin' to pass off as MJ, they deserve it.

[Edited 12/1/10 15:22pm]

I just ordered the Vision , MJ new album doesn't seem to be a must have I will probably take my sweet time getting it.

I swear something is seriously going wrong with our world, people. We used to live in a time when things were simpler...when you went out to buy a Michael Jackson album, Michael Jackson would actually be on it.

I was thinkin' the other day...with all this new stuff comin' out, the video game, Vision, and so on...we're entering some sorta Renaissance. Things we grew up with are becoming new again. It makes you feel happy you're alive, to see this happening. And then I sat and thought....all this means nothing...because he's not here. And with all these questionably tracks goin' round...aside from us who know they're fake, the only other person who knows is gone. *sigh....Michael would always tell us never accept what the media says, or our first impressions. Always look for the truth between the lies...and if anything needs clarification......he'd give us the truth. But where do we turn now for answers? The family is messed up, the estate is lying...and Sony never was reliable for all they've done to him.

Where do we go from here?

SherryJackson said:

I swear something is seriously going wrong with our world, people. We used to live in a time when things were simpler...when you went out to buy a Michael Jackson album, Michael Jackson would actually be on it.

I was thinkin' the other day...with all this new stuff comin' out, the video game, Vision, and so on...we're entering some sorta Renaissance. Things we grew up with are becoming new again. It makes you feel happy you're alive, to see this happening. And then I sat and thought....all this means nothing...because he's not here. And with all these questionably tracks goin' round...aside from us who know they're fake, the only other person who knows is gone. *sigh....Michael would always tell us never accept what the media says, or our first impressions. Always look for the truth between the lies...and if anything needs clarification......he'd give us the truth. But where do we turn now for answers? The family is messed up, the estate is lying...and Sony never was reliable for all they've done to him.

Where do we go from here?

I think it’s just more sad for this stuff to come out when he died I would love to have these things when he was here either be shirts or books. The video game I have no interest in it unless maybe and this is a strong maybe if they did a rockband on him. And I been saying alot of these things are pointless since he's not here but it's to be expected because at the end of the day he was a brand and people see the new bandwagoners are interested they are going to release these things to make money. It's no different from elvis , tupac I wished they still stop taking advantage of him even in death but it is what it is.

[Edited 12/1/10 17:03pm]

what i know is that am supporting this album no matter weather or not its him on it!!! what do you think the media will say if it flops??" loyal mj fans boycott album becos vocals are not mj" or WACKO JACKSON FLOPS!!FANS HAVE ABANDONED HIM A YEAR AFTER DEATH? think of the headline they will go for?