Timmy84 said:

I like to slap anyone who posted about Usher.

Just kidding but really? Like really?

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seeingvoices12 said:

dag said:

Have you heard that song?

Type of Work:	Music
Registration Number / Date:	PAu000684008 / 1985-01-14
Title:	Learned my lesson : Much too soon : 2 versions / Michael Jackson.
Description:	1 sound cassette.
Copyright Claimant:	Mijac Music
Date of Creation:	1981
Authorship on Application:	words & music: Michael Jackson.
Other Title:	Much too soon
Names:	Jackson, Michael
	Mijac Music

so learned my lesson is the alternative title for much too soon.......

Indeed. I just figured they were the same song. Thanks for that

The leaked credits for "Hollywood Tonight" says it has a spoken bridge by Teddy Riley and Taryll Jackson. So, can't be the same song as "Do You Know".

Before the other sticky got removed because of MP3 linkage, Bboy posted the credits of "Hollywood Tonight"... apparently Taryll Jackson is in some part of the song and there's some whistling and a spoken bridge by Teddy Riley.

Just so you know.

Militant said:

The leaked credits for "Hollywood Tonight" says it has a spoken bridge by Teddy Riley and Taryll Jackson. So, can't be the same song as "Do You Know".

It's not. It was written by MJ and Brad Buxer.

I wonder if Michael wrote "Do You Know" on his lonesome.

I hope there's a chance though that DYK is some kind of hidden bonus track.

Timmy84 said:

Militant said:

The leaked credits for "Hollywood Tonight" says it has a spoken bridge by Teddy Riley and Taryll Jackson. So, can't be the same song as "Do You Know".

It's not. It was written by MJ and Brad Buxer.

I wonder if Michael wrote "Do You Know" on his lonesome.

I hope there's a chance though that DYK is some kind of hidden bonus track.

According to the 1993 Mexico Depo, MJ said he wrote DYK by himself

Timmy84 said:

I like to slap anyone who posted about Usher.

Just kidding but really? Like really?

[Edited 11/17/10 10:35am]

Exactly.

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Superhot in those jeans and shirt.

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:

It's not. It was written by MJ and Brad Buxer.

I wonder if Michael wrote "Do You Know" on his lonesome.

I hope there's a chance though that DYK is some kind of hidden bonus track.

According to the 1993 Mexico Depo, MJ said he wrote DYK by himself

Thanks. I vaguely did remember hearing that name when Michael had that deposition. I've forgotten all about it.

dag said:

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Superhot in those jeans and shirt.

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Lookin at Michael's hand in that pic...do you know what year this was taken? Kinda looks like during the Bad era.

NaughtyKitty said:

dag said:

[img:$uid]http://img98.im.../img:$uid]

Superhot in those jeans and shirt.

[Edited 11/17/10 10:56am]

Lookin at Michael's hand in that pic...do you know what year this was taken? Kinda looks like during the Bad era.

Looks like '86 to me.

ali23 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Lookin at Michael's hand in that pic...do you know what year this was taken? Kinda looks like during the Bad era.

Looks like '86 to me.

I am not sure right now when Caption EO was made, but I´d say this picture was taken sometime around Captain EO.

ali23 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Lookin at Michael's hand in that pic...do you know what year this was taken? Kinda looks like during the Bad era.

Looks like '86 to me.

Most def '86

Much Too Soon is a gorgeous, beautiful haunting melody....A jewel.

I just cannot get the song out of my head........

Vanilli said:

CONFIRMED BY MJstar.com:

"Hollywood Tonight" is the leaked version of "Do You Know Where Your Children Are" without

added sound effects.

Someone posted the lyrics to Hollywood Tonight and they're drastically different to Do You Know Where Your Children Are

Plus Steve Lukather worked on Do You Know and he's not credited on the track

Lipstick in hand

Tahitian tanned

In her painted on jeans

She dreams of fame

She changed her name

To one that fits the movie screen

She’s headed for the big time, that means

She’s going Hollywood

She’s going Hollywood tonight

She’s going Hollywood

She’s going Hollywood tonight

She’s going Hollywood

She’s going Hollywood tonight

It’s true, that you, may never ever have that chance again

Militant said:

The leaked credits for "Hollywood Tonight" says it has a spoken bridge by Teddy Riley and Taryll Jackson. So, can't be the same song as "Do You Know".

bboy87 said:

Vanilli said:

CONFIRMED BY MJstar.com:

"Hollywood Tonight" is the leaked version of "Do You Know Where Your Children Are" without

added sound effects.

Someone posted the lyrics to Hollywood Tonight and they're drastically different to Do You Know Where Your Children Are

Plus Steve Lukather worked on Do You Know and he's not credited on the track

Lipstick in hand

Tahitian tanned

In her painted on jeans

She dreams of fame

She changed her name

To one that fits the movie screen

She’s headed for the big time, that means

She’s going Hollywood

She’s going Hollywood tonight

She’s going Hollywood

She’s going Hollywood tonight

She’s going Hollywood

She’s going Hollywood tonight

It’s true, that you, may never ever have that chance again

Oops @ the bold lol

Where do any of these leaks come from? Seems odd that after this track sitting around collecting dust it appears when this album is about to be released...

Well... Dang!

Question guys: The beginning of Do You Know Where Children Are sounds like O.P.P., but according to wiki O.P.P. wasn't recorded and released until 1991 and this song was supposedly recorded in 1990. What's going on? Is it just a big coincidence? That seems somewhat unlikely... Was there another record both of them were sampling from?

Wonder why it says this on Michael Jackson youtube.

Google?

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paisleypark4 said:

So I was nosy and searched on ASCAP for Michael Jackson credits...what are all these songs written by Nicholas Pike and MJ...were they for some type of film project he was going to do?

ghosts

Unholyalliance said:

Question guys: The beginning of Do You Know Where Children Are sounds like O.P.P., but according to wiki O.P.P. wasn't recorded and released until 1991 and this song was supposedly recorded in 1990. What's going on? Is it just a big coincidence? That seems somewhat unlikely... Was there another record both of them were sampling from?

Yeah, I gotta found the song but it was already sampled PRIOR to Naughty By Nature.

This is what both songs sampled.

Militant said:

Wow...why the fuck did they change the name? "Do You Know" would have been fine, or even "12 O' Clock".

"Hollywood Tonight" doesn't sound like the right name for that song. Damn Sony, messing shit up again.

So, from the first posthumous MJ release we get:

3 fake songs (Breaking News, Keep Your Head Up, Monster)

1 song that's already been released (The Way You Love Me)

1 song that already leaked 2 years ago (yes the new version is better) (Hold My Hand)

1 song that already got released by three other artists (YMO, Greg P, Clapton) - altho I still am excited to hear the MJ version, but chances are it's more or less the same as Greg's version but with MJ singing. (Behind The Mask)

1 song that we've already heard the verse, bridge and chorus of, and was already released without MJ (Another Day/Storm)

2 songs that leaked out a month before the album release. (Hollywood Tonight/Do You Know and Much Too Soon)

That only leaves "Best of Joy".

This whole album is just a colossal fail on the part of both the estate AND Sony.

I mean, where the fuck is:

Xscape

Blue Gangsta

Strawberry Fields Forever

A Place With No Name

Bottle of Smoke

Bassouile

Buffalo Bill

Eaten Alive

Get Around

Hot Street

Men In Black

Serious Effect

....just for a start? Now THAT's the album they need to release.

You can't blame the company for the leaks though - you know Sony would be just as pissed with the leaks as anyone.

Swa said:

Militant said:

Wow...why the fuck did they change the name? "Do You Know" would have been fine, or even "12 O' Clock".

"Hollywood Tonight" doesn't sound like the right name for that song. Damn Sony, messing shit up again.

So, from the first posthumous MJ release we get:

3 fake songs (Breaking News, Keep Your Head Up, Monster)

1 song that's already been released (The Way You Love Me)

1 song that already leaked 2 years ago (yes the new version is better) (Hold My Hand)

1 song that already got released by three other artists (YMO, Greg P, Clapton) - altho I still am excited to hear the MJ version, but chances are it's more or less the same as Greg's version but with MJ singing. (Behind The Mask)

1 song that we've already heard the verse, bridge and chorus of, and was already released without MJ (Another Day/Storm)

2 songs that leaked out a month before the album release. (Hollywood Tonight/Do You Know and Much Too Soon)

That only leaves "Best of Joy".

This whole album is just a colossal fail on the part of both the estate AND Sony.

I mean, where the fuck is:

Xscape

Blue Gangsta

Strawberry Fields Forever

A Place With No Name

Bottle of Smoke

Bassouile

Buffalo Bill

Eaten Alive

Get Around

Hot Street

Men In Black

Serious Effect

....just for a start? Now THAT's the album they need to release.

You can't blame the company for the leaks though - you know Sony would be just as pissed with the leaks as anyone.

True but I hope the songs are put in an album soon.

Swa said:

Militant said:

Wow...why the fuck did they change the name? "Do You Know" would have been fine, or even "12 O' Clock".

"Hollywood Tonight" doesn't sound like the right name for that song. Damn Sony, messing shit up again.

So, from the first posthumous MJ release we get:

3 fake songs (Breaking News, Keep Your Head Up, Monster)

1 song that's already been released (The Way You Love Me)

1 song that already leaked 2 years ago (yes the new version is better) (Hold My Hand)

1 song that already got released by three other artists (YMO, Greg P, Clapton) - altho I still am excited to hear the MJ version, but chances are it's more or less the same as Greg's version but with MJ singing. (Behind The Mask)

1 song that we've already heard the verse, bridge and chorus of, and was already released without MJ (Another Day/Storm)

2 songs that leaked out a month before the album release. (Hollywood Tonight/Do You Know and Much Too Soon)

That only leaves "Best of Joy".

This whole album is just a colossal fail on the part of both the estate AND Sony.

I mean, where the fuck is:

Xscape

Blue Gangsta

Strawberry Fields Forever

A Place With No Name

Bottle of Smoke

Bassouile

Buffalo Bill

Eaten Alive

Get Around

Hot Street

Men In Black

Serious Effect

....just for a start? Now THAT's the album they need to release.

You can't blame the company for the leaks though - you know Sony would be just as pissed with the leaks as anyone.

I hope they all leak so they can't mess up and destroy his work.....

seeingvoices12 said:

Swa said:

You can't blame the company for the leaks though - you know Sony would be just as pissed with the leaks as anyone.

I hope they all leak so they can't mess up and destroy his work.....

Yeah I do too in alot of ways.