i really liked the teddy riley articles from last year, really insightfull

bboy87 said:

dag said:

An off-topic question. yesterday watching that Harpin documentary, they should that in part two they are going to show some letters written by Mike to June Chandler. Does anyone ever heard of them? Do you know what´s in them? It seemed like a love letter. I´ve heard rumours about the two of them having possible romance, but I am not sure about it.

Halperin said that?

It´s going to be in the second part that will air next week. So I am not sure what exactly will turn out of that, that´s why I am asking if anyone has ever heard of them.

bboy87 said:

You haven't heard any of them?

Fall Again and Beautiful Girl were on The Ultimate Collection

Fall Again (1999)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZHsL6C3awY

Beautiful Girl (1998)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqn715zIgsI

We only have snippets of A Place With No Name and Another Day right now but it's been said that Another Day will be on the album that's coming out in November

A Place With No Name (1998)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f65xzL7ebeI

Another Day (2000 or 2001) featuring Lenny Kravitz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvjGkD5Qo00

then there's Escape

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb__DmgDeVM

Thank you!

Fall Again - Beautiful. His voice sounds incredible!

Beautiful Girl - A bit cheesy and it sounds like he's holding back vocally

A Place With No Name - I like! Sounds like Bad era MJ and very Jackson-esque.

I've heard the other two.

Love 'Another Day' - his voice is so pure and lush! Escape - Reminds me of the Dangerous album. I love it.

bboy87 said:

Reel said:

Wow Randy had a heart attack? That's sad. I always believe that one of those siblings is probably going to hold more guilt than the rest. One will feel "What if I tried to reach him harder" whether realistic or not. I don't know the reason for Randy's heart attack. But I would not be shocked if it were not stressed related. Poor Katherine seems to be in total denial about her son's multiple drug addiction even 1 year after he died. Not sure one can really expect more from an 80 year old woman. At least she sees the need to have those kids socialized with friends of their own. Jermaine's son recently tried to shoot one of them with a Bibi (beebee) gun of sorts, and Child Welfare was called a few months back. I would like to see those kids with either Janet or Rebi. But I really don't know either women, and I'm sure that if Janet wanted kids, she'd be raising her own at this time.

This isn't Randy's first health scare. He had a mild attack some years ago and then you'll remember the car accident he had back in 1980

Randy is suspicious of the people that were around Michael and feels there were more involved in his death.

I don't think she's denial, but at the same time, different family members have different accounts so who knows what was really going down

All the siblings (except for Marlon and Jackie) have given their accounts in what they think was going on with Michael and they all differ....

But I'm saying when the labs come back positive for Profotol (spelling), and you have Depack Chopra as well as other respected physicians and nurses state publically that Michael begged them to write or administer intensive Narcotics. How can you turn away from that knowledge? Michael reportedly owed a pharmacy a heavy grip of money. I think SOME members of his family, and his fans are still in denial. That although Michael was not your typical junkie on the corner, he was still a junkie. Do you know what happens when you build up a tolerance to prescription pain killers and sedatives.....you have INSOMNIA..take this from someone who suffered from chronic pain for 2 years pre surgery. Luckily I live in a State where I was able to Legally Remedy my situation with lets say NATURAL substances, and then i finally had sugery and im all better now. But that insomnia is no joke, and because he was surrounded by "yes men" he was not rehabilitated. I believe exactly what was reported by the media happened. He hired a damned Quack who administered surgical grade anesthesia for a junkie, and he carelessly overdosed Michael. He should do jail time. But as far as intentionally murdering him. Hell no!

Christina Aguilera will be performing a tribute to Michael Jackson later this week. Alongside Marc Anthony, LL Cool J, Smokey Robinson and James Morrison, the singer will be featured in an hour-long CBS special entitled ‘The King of Pop: One Year Later’. The broadcast will air at 8am ET as part of ‘The Early Show’. Check out what Aguilera had to say about The King of Pop below:

I believe it airs this Friday.

bboy87 said:

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greatpink said:

dag said:

You really remember me? Oh, that´s sweet.

Why do you feel guilty?

Cool picture, btw. Thanks for posting. I´ve never seen it.

[Edited 6/22/10 13:28pm]

*Well, it's not necessary to have an account here to read in threads

I have been around for almost a year and I had gone through all relevant threads beginning from 2001 before I ventured to say smth on my own *

I feel guilty for not paying attention before.

For thinking that "a well-being of an extremely wealthy high profile celebrity should not be anything of my concern".

And that "he will be OK this way or another".

And that "he has a whole army of managers, advisers and stuff to take care about him" - and then all of a sudden it came out that I've been wrong: "there's been nobody home" for him apparently.

And that his suffering was real and not "just a part of his image".

And... it's too late anyway.

And now I'm collecting rare pics (what else can I do?)

[Edited 6/22/10 14:14pm]

[Edited 6/22/10 14:20pm]

I've basically been in the same place. : /

bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

GOODNESS GRACIOUS! Is this real or just a photoshop?

It's real. It's from 1999 and was intended for the Invincible album but Sony rejected it

Mike always had such artistic...just innovative ideas, but the record label just didn't support a lot of em. >

Still an amazing photo.

WOW so many tv shows, I am not sure I can watch any of them.

I am troubled that Michaels' children are spending that day in Gary, Indiana.

Please tell me this has nothing to do with that museum or whatever they are building.

And please tell me that Katherine is not succumbing to Joe.

??????????

sag10 said:

WOW so many tv shows, I am not sure I can watch any of them.

I am troubled that Michaels' children are spending that day in Gary, Indiana.

Please tell me this has nothing to do with that museum or whatever they are building.

And please tell me that Katherine is not succumbing to Joe.

??????????

Not succumbing to Joe?? I think she succumbed to him years ago

Claire73 said:

sag10 said:

WOW so many tv shows, I am not sure I can watch any of them.

I am troubled that Michaels' children are spending that day in Gary, Indiana.

Please tell me this has nothing to do with that museum or whatever they are building.

And please tell me that Katherine is not succumbing to Joe.

??????????

Not succumbing to Joe?? I think she succumbed to him years ago

This is true! I thought by him being gone, cheating on her, using her children that she would have grown stronger.

I am really frightened for Michael's children, as long as Joe is around.

sag10 said:

WOW so many tv shows, I am not sure I can watch any of them.

I am troubled that Michaels' children are spending that day in Gary, Indiana.

Please tell me this has nothing to do with that museum or whatever they are building.

And please tell me that Katherine is not succumbing to Joe.

??????????

So far, it's just been said that Katherine and Randy's daughter, Genieve (sp?), is attending some vigil in Gary.

Reel said:

MyLuv229 said:

After years of living as one of the most closely protected families in the world, Michael Jackson’s three children are to attend school for the first time.

In an emotional interview to mark the first anniversary of the singer’s death, their grandmother and guardian Katherine Jackson has told The Mail on Sunday that she is determined to give Prince, Paris and Blanket a more conventional upbringing.

Until now, they have been taught at home, in keeping with Michael ’s policy of keeping them largely hidden from the outside world.

‘I’d say I’m a little less strict but I’ve tried to follow the way Michael was raising them,’ she says in her first interview since he died of a suspected heart attack on June 25 last year at his Los Angeles home.

‘But they don’t have friends. They don’t go to school. They have private lessons at home. They’ll be going to a private school in September for the first time.’

The 80-year-old great-grandmother laughs at the idea the children could ever have a wholly normal life, but says they have a healthy routine of daily schoolwork, karate and swimming.

She says there is hardly a day without visits from members of her extended family to her home in Los Angeles. ‘Having them around has helped the children immensely. They go places together and have fun. They listen to Michael’s music.’

Katherine has come under media scrutiny again in recent weeks after reported comments by her husband, Joe Jackson, who said she was in part responsible for Michael’s death – a sentiment he has now retracted.

And last week her youngest son, Randy, was rushed to hospital with a heart attack, but he seems to be recovering.

Throughout, however, she says her priority has been caring for her grandchildren Prince, 13, Paris, 12, and Blanket, eight.

Katherine was made their legal guardian in the weeks following Michael’s death, although she has no control over his estate, which is held in a trust fund.
Michael with his mother Katherine on her birthday in 1984
The three children have been deeply affected, she says. Paris has created a shrine to him in her bedroom. ‘I wanted to hang pictures of flowers or ballerinas, like I would expect a girl would.

But she went into the closet and she brought out seven or eight pictures of Michael and said, “No, I want Daddy hanging in my room. I always want to see him.”

‘So she goes to bed looking at him and wakes up looking at him. Paris has that lovely way like Michael, and I see his talent in her. Whatever she does she’s very good at it. She’s a good artist and plays the piano. She wants to be an actress.’

Katherine believes all three share something of Michael. Prince is interested in the arts, hoping to be a film producer, while Blanket has his sense of playfulness. She says it was some time after Michael took Prince and Paris to a concert to celebrate his 30th anniversary as a solo entertainer in 2001 that they began to understand how famous he was.

‘Michael told me a story. He said the two little ones were in the audience. When he got backstage they said, “So you’re a big star, huh? When I grow up I want to be just like you!” And Michael said he got the biggest chuckle out of that.’
To help her face up to Friday’s anniversary, Katherine has put together a collection of Jackson family photographs, in Never Can Say Goodbye: The Katherine Jackson Archives.

She says: ‘I love looking at photos of my children singing and dancing together, when they looked happy. Not a day goes by I don’t think about Michael.
Prince Michael Jackson and Paris have started karate classes to keep them occupied while they grieve the passing of their father, who died in June last year
‘It’s hard for me to talk about without getting all choked up. Years will pass by and I’ll still feel the same way. I have a nephew I am very close to who I’ve have leaned on a lot. Prayer has helped me. I don’t have any regrets. I just live for the children.’

She continues: ‘Michael was so misunderstood. I remember when he brought gifts up to the house for me: a watch, a necklace and ring. I’ll never forget the way he was smiling when I opened each one. He was so generous. He’d give you the shirt off his back.

‘I want the world to know the real Michael. All these allegations in the tabloids, it’s all rubbish.

‘People with children will understand how I feel when somebody says something ugly about my son, especially when it’s not true. That’s why I’m releasing the book. I’d like him to be remembered as the loving person he was.

'People can’t understand it because of the child molestation claims falsely laid on him. It’s just greedy people who wanted money.’
Family: The singer with his children Paris (left) and Prince Michael in early 2009

A year on from his death, Michael’s mother does not accept he died of natural causes.

‘He was too young for that, but something happened. I heard from people he was taking prescription drugs but I’ve never seen my son in any way  . . .  even talking to him on the phone, he was always himself.

‘I never asked him about that as he was always normal. I don’t think he just died of natural causes. I don’t believe that. It was someone who was watching over him  . . .  and he died. If I could see him again I would ask him, “Who did this to you?”

‘One thing I hope for is the next year will be better for me and the family. I hope people continue to remember Michael and keep celebrating his legacy. I hope that things get better for me in time. His death has already brought the family closer together. I want us to be even more close.

‘I try not to regret. I try not to think like that because I don’t think Michael would have had his life any other way. Sometimes I start to tear up.

‘But I am happy about it because I know the world is missing and remembering my son. I could see the fans taking pictures, posing in front of the house. I know Michael would have been happy to see that. I just miss him every day.’

Wow Randy had a heart attack? That's sad. I always believe that one of those siblings is probably going to hold more guilt than the rest. One will feel "What if I tried to reach him harder" whether realistic or not. I don't know the reason for Randy's heart attack. But I would not be shocked if it were not stressed related. Poor Katherine seems to be in total denial about her son's multiple drug addiction even 1 year after he died. Not sure one can really expect more from an 80 year old woman. At least she sees the need to have those kids socialized with friends of their own. Jermaine's son recently tried to shoot one of them with a Bibi (beebee) gun of sorts, and Child Welfare was called a few months back. I would like to see those kids with either Janet or Rebi. But I really don't know either women, and I'm sure that if Janet wanted kids, she'd be raising her own at this time.

This is not true. Please don't treat Jaafar, like michael was treated. All you are doing is helping a vicious cycle to continue.

EmeraldSkies said:

bboy87 said:

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I think I like it.

[Edited 6/22/10 18:17pm]

Just look at the bone structure. I adore the hair...his neck...damn, please god, in my next life, I wanna be born as any woman who slept with him. Just gorgeous

Here´s another picture.

Reel said:

bboy87 said:

This isn't Randy's first health scare. He had a mild attack some years ago and then you'll remember the car accident he had back in 1980

Randy is suspicious of the people that were around Michael and feels there were more involved in his death.

I don't think she's denial, but at the same time, different family members have different accounts so who knows what was really going down

All the siblings (except for Marlon and Jackie) have given their accounts in what they think was going on with Michael and they all differ....

But I'm saying when the labs come back positive for Profotol (spelling), and you have Depack Chopra as well as other respected physicians and nurses state publically that Michael begged them to write or administer intensive Narcotics. How can you turn away from that knowledge? Michael reportedly owed a pharmacy a heavy grip of money. I think SOME members of his family, and his fans are still in denial. That although Michael was not your typical junkie on the corner, he was still a junkie. Do you know what happens when you build up a tolerance to prescription pain killers and sedatives.....you have INSOMNIA..take this from someone who suffered from chronic pain for 2 years pre surgery. Luckily I live in a State where I was able to Legally Remedy my situation with lets say NATURAL substances, and then i finally had sugery and im all better now. But that insomnia is no joke, and because he was surrounded by "yes men" he was not rehabilitated. I believe exactly what was reported by the media happened. He hired a damned Quack who administered surgical grade anesthesia for a junkie, and he carelessly overdosed Michael. He should do jail time. But as far as intentionally murdering him. Hell no!

How dare Michael go to a doctor and ask for a prescription drug? How dare Michael take medicaments? Obviously a junkie. Anyone who takes medicaments is (statistics prove 99% of elderly people are). How dare a Luppus patient (Michael's case) ask for narcotics? How dare a guy who is on excrutiating pain 24/7, a sympton of Luppus, ask for painkillers? How?

His children should have been removed from him a LONG time ago. The pedo! He was the only man on Earth who was able to get away with IT. I bet he raped Prince. And Blanket had his days numbered.

I was also operated 3 years ago to the spine. I begged doctors to prescribe painkillers. I'm, obviously, a big junkie as well, right? Damn...I should be locked in Sobral Cid (Portugal'ls equivalent to California 5051)! How dare a person, who is in pain, beg doctors for narcotics? HOW? How dare a person take medicaments? Isn't it obvious that anyone who takes a medicament is a junkie?

How dare a person be an insomniac after 45 years of public scrutiny, humiliation and multiple allegations of child abuse? Facts scream junkie, isn't it Reel?

The loving Jacksons should have put Michael on the line! Joe Jackson just wanted the best for his beloved son...but Michael wouldn't have it!!! I bet the children are now safe with the likes of Randy, Joe, Jermaine, Latoya, Tito and so on near! The ones who just wanted to save Michael are now saving his probably-raped and most-likely-targeted-by-the-pedo children!

Isn't it, Reel? Let's all cheer! The pathological-guy is now dead.

cdcgold said:

Reel said:

Wow Randy had a heart attack? That's sad. I always believe that one of those siblings is probably going to hold more guilt than the rest. One will feel "What if I tried to reach him harder" whether realistic or not. I don't know the reason for Randy's heart attack. But I would not be shocked if it were not stressed related. Poor Katherine seems to be in total denial about her son's multiple drug addiction even 1 year after he died. Not sure one can really expect more from an 80 year old woman. At least she sees the need to have those kids socialized with friends of their own. Jermaine's son recently tried to shoot one of them with a Bibi (beebee) gun of sorts, and Child Welfare was called a few months back. I would like to see those kids with either Janet or Rebi. But I really don't know either women, and I'm sure that if Janet wanted kids, she'd be raising her own at this time.

This is not true. Please don't treat Jaafar, like michael was treated. All you are doing is helping a vicious cycle to continue.

Not true???? I saw Jermaine with his son in tow with my OWN EYES say on TMZ that what the son shot at one of Michael's children with was not a Bibi gun. It was obviously something though some sort of a projectile was aimed at one of Michael's children. Jermaine never said that the entire incident was one big lie . He only said "It wasn't a bibi gun" and that his son is a good kid. Something went on there, because it caused Katherine to make Jermaine's son move out of their home. Those biological grandkids are going to feel resentful. For starters, Michaels kids may not be biological family members, and the family members that are already there in terms of children are probably jealous of the attention that Michael's children are getting.

I just wonder what kind of woman Rebi is, she seemed to be like the smartest seeing that she was like one of the first to get the hell out of that dysfunctional household. It would be good if Rebi could take those children. But obviously Michael did not want that, not sure why. I would love to see a current interview with Rebi. Biological or not, those are Michael's kids and they deserve a decent lifestyle free of danger from family and non family alike. The more I read about Katherine, allowing Joe's continuing antics, the more I question her strength. I really dont know though. I just think that an 80 year old woman raising such young kids especially when she for whatever reason was unable to protect or help her own kids just doesn't seem that great of a deal to me.

I have a feeling that before this thing is over, some money grubbing "somebody" will have legal custody of all of Michael's children and have a half billion dollars to show for it. Sad story. Michael needed help so that he could have still been here for those children. At least he had a will though.

MOL said:

Reel said:

But I'm saying when the labs come back positive for Profotol (spelling), and you have Depack Chopra as well as other respected physicians and nurses state publically that Michael begged them to write or administer intensive Narcotics. How can you turn away from that knowledge? Michael reportedly owed a pharmacy a heavy grip of money. I think SOME members of his family, and his fans are still in denial. That although Michael was not your typical junkie on the corner, he was still a junkie. Do you know what happens when you build up a tolerance to prescription pain killers and sedatives.....you have INSOMNIA..take this from someone who suffered from chronic pain for 2 years pre surgery. Luckily I live in a State where I was able to Legally Remedy my situation with lets say NATURAL substances, and then i finally had sugery and im all better now. But that insomnia is no joke, and because he was surrounded by "yes men" he was not rehabilitated. I believe exactly what was reported by the media happened. He hired a damned Quack who administered surgical grade anesthesia for a junkie, and he carelessly overdosed Michael. He should do jail time. But as far as intentionally murdering him. Hell no!

How dare Michael go to a doctor and ask for a prescription drug? How dare Michael take medicaments? Obviously a junkie. Anyone who takes medicaments is (statistics prove 99% of elderly people are). How dare a Luppus patient (Michael's case) ask for narcotics? How dare a guy who is on excrutiating pain 24/7, a sympton of Luppus, ask for painkillers? How?

His children should have been removed from him a LONG time ago. The pedo! He was the only man on Earth who was able to get away with IT. I bet he raped Prince. And Blanket had his days numbered.

I was also operated 3 years ago to the spine. I begged doctors to prescribe painkillers. I'm, obviously, a big junkie as well, right? Damn...I should be locked in Sobral Cid (Portugal'ls equivalent to California 5051)! How dare a person, who is in pain, beg doctors for narcotics? HOW? How dare a person take medicaments? Isn't it obvious that anyone who takes a medicament is a junkie?

How dare a person be an insomniac after 45 years of public scrutiny, humiliation and multiple allegations of child abuse? Facts scream junkie, isn't it Reel?

The loving Jacksons should have put Michael on the line! Joe Jackson just wanted the best for his beloved son...but Michael wouldn't have it!!! I bet the children are now safe with the likes of Randy, Joe, Jermaine, Latoya, Tito and so on near! The ones who just wanted to save Michael are now saving his probably-raped and most-likely-targeted-by-the-pedo children!

Isn't it, Reel? Let's all cheer! The pathological-guy is now dead.

^

MOL said:

Reel said:

But I'm saying when the labs come back positive for Profotol (spelling), and you have Depack Chopra as well as other respected physicians and nurses state publically that Michael begged them to write or administer intensive Narcotics. How can you turn away from that knowledge? Michael reportedly owed a pharmacy a heavy grip of money. I think SOME members of his family, and his fans are still in denial. That although Michael was not your typical junkie on the corner, he was still a junkie. Do you know what happens when you build up a tolerance to prescription pain killers and sedatives.....you have INSOMNIA..take this from someone who suffered from chronic pain for 2 years pre surgery. Luckily I live in a State where I was able to Legally Remedy my situation with lets say NATURAL substances, and then i finally had sugery and im all better now. But that insomnia is no joke, and because he was surrounded by "yes men" he was not rehabilitated. I believe exactly what was reported by the media happened. He hired a damned Quack who administered surgical grade anesthesia for a junkie, and he carelessly overdosed Michael. He should do jail time. But as far as intentionally murdering him. Hell no!

How dare Michael go to a doctor and ask for a prescription drug? How dare Michael take medicaments? Obviously a junkie. Anyone who takes medicaments is (statistics prove 99% of elderly people are). How dare a Luppus patient (Michael's case) ask for narcotics? How dare a guy who is on excrutiating pain 24/7, a sympton of Luppus, ask for painkillers? How?

His children should have been removed from him a LONG time ago. The pedo! He was the only man on Earth who was able to get away with IT. I bet he raped Prince. And Blanket had his days numbered.

I was also operated 3 years ago to the spine. I begged doctors to prescribe painkillers. I'm, obviously, a big junkie as well, right? Damn...I should be locked in Sobral Cid (Portugal'ls equivalent to California 5051)! How dare a person, who is in pain, beg doctors for narcotics? HOW? How dare a person take medicaments? Isn't it obvious that anyone who takes a medicament is a junkie?

How dare a person be an insomniac after 45 years of public scrutiny, humiliation and multiple allegations of child abuse? Facts scream junkie, isn't it Reel?

The loving Jacksons should have put Michael on the line! Joe Jackson just wanted the best for his beloved son...but Michael wouldn't have it!!! I bet the children are now safe with the likes of Randy, Joe, Jermaine, Latoya, Tito and so on near! The ones who just wanted to save Michael are now saving his probably-raped and most-likely-targeted-by-the-pedo children!

Isn't it, Reel? Let's all cheer! The pathological-guy is now dead.

So go and get yourself a doctor to administer surgical grade anesthesia each night for you to sleep then, since your sarcasm indicates that you are ok with this. People don't seem to get it... THE MAN DIED AS A RESULT OF DRUG ABUSE!!!!! If there is no other way to manage insomnia than lethal means leading to DEATH then we have a big big problem on this earth.

I'm just pissing in the wind here. Time to move back to the other crazy fans on this site.

Claire73 said:

MOL said:

How dare Michael go to a doctor and ask for a prescription drug? How dare Michael take medicaments? Obviously a junkie. Anyone who takes medicaments is (statistics prove 99% of elderly people are). How dare a Luppus patient (Michael's case) ask for narcotics? How dare a guy who is on excrutiating pain 24/7, a sympton of Luppus, ask for painkillers? How?

His children should have been removed from him a LONG time ago. The pedo! He was the only man on Earth who was able to get away with IT. I bet he raped Prince. And Blanket had his days numbered.

I was also operated 3 years ago to the spine. I begged doctors to prescribe painkillers. I'm, obviously, a big junkie as well, right? Damn...I should be locked in Sobral Cid (Portugal'ls equivalent to California 5051)! How dare a person, who is in pain, beg doctors for narcotics? HOW? How dare a person take medicaments? Isn't it obvious that anyone who takes a medicament is a junkie?

How dare a person be an insomniac after 45 years of public scrutiny, humiliation and multiple allegations of child abuse? Facts scream junkie, isn't it Reel?

The loving Jacksons should have put Michael on the line! Joe Jackson just wanted the best for his beloved son...but Michael wouldn't have it!!! I bet the children are now safe with the likes of Randy, Joe, Jermaine, Latoya, Tito and so on near! The ones who just wanted to save Michael are now saving his probably-raped and most-likely-targeted-by-the-pedo children!

Isn't it, Reel? Let's all cheer! The pathological-guy is now dead.

^

May God descend to Earth.

I was being SARCASTIC! Is it that tough to understand?

Geez...is IQ available on ebay?

MOL said:

Claire73 said:

May God descend to Earth.

I was being SARCASTIC! Is it that tough to understand?

Geez...is IQ available on ebay?

Sarcasm doesn't come across very well online.....maybe you should check out ebay

This should be a time of reflection on what Michael gave to us when he was alive.

There isn't one person on this earth that is not struggling with some sort of issue..and we are all aware of his pain.

sag10 said:

This should be a time of reflection on what Michael gave to us when he was alive.

There isn't one person on this earth that is not struggling with some sort of issue..and we are all aware of his pain.

(...and memories)

June 25 is a cause of celebration for me for everything he gave us. He went out a trooper IMHO. I just wished he had finished the job but what he left us we can't ever forget that. So on June 25, instead of being sad, let's just celebrate his life.

(the full footage is somewhere on the youtube)

Anyone know who are those two sistas on that photo?

I choose to celebrate his life as well, and I cannot promise without a tear.

sag10 said:

I choose to celebrate his life as well, and I cannot promise without a tear.

Tears will flow, that's guaranteed.

Reel said:

bboy87 said:

This isn't Randy's first health scare. He had a mild attack some years ago and then you'll remember the car accident he had back in 1980

Randy is suspicious of the people that were around Michael and feels there were more involved in his death.

I don't think she's denial, but at the same time, different family members have different accounts so who knows what was really going down

All the siblings (except for Marlon and Jackie) have given their accounts in what they think was going on with Michael and they all differ....

But I'm saying when the labs come back positive for Profotol (spelling), and you have Depack Chopra as well as other respected physicians and nurses state publically that Michael begged them to write or administer intensive Narcotics. How can you turn away from that knowledge? Michael reportedly owed a pharmacy a heavy grip of money. I think SOME members of his family, and his fans are still in denial. That although Michael was not your typical junkie on the corner, he was still a junkie. Do you know what happens when you build up a tolerance to prescription pain killers and sedatives.....you have INSOMNIA..take this from someone who suffered from chronic pain for 2 years pre surgery. Luckily I live in a State where I was able to Legally Remedy my situation with lets say NATURAL substances, and then i finally had sugery and im all better now. But that insomnia is no joke, and because he was surrounded by "yes men" he was not rehabilitated. I believe exactly what was reported by the media happened. He hired a damned Quack who administered surgical grade anesthesia for a junkie, and he carelessly overdosed Michael. He should do jail time. But as far as intentionally murdering him. Hell no!

But at the same time, this was man who not only suffered insomnia, but had lupus and from the autopsy said, minor arthiritus, inflammed lungs, and an enlarged prostate, and you have to remember, they didn't find any narcotics...

And Michael had insomnia way before he began using prescription drugs. I don't believe he was someone who was some junkie demanding drugs, but someone who because he had a history with addiction, was taken advantage of by a series of people. I'm not gonna take the media's or Murray's word for anything right now until the trial is over and done with

Drug addict or not, Michael died because negligence

That's just my opinion, though

But come on, ya'll, let's not dwell on all this. Let's celebrate Michael

sag10 said:

This should be a time of reflection on what Michael gave to us when he was alive.

There isn't one person on this earth that is not struggling with some sort of issue..and we are all aware of his pain.

Reel said:

MOL said:

How dare Michael go to a doctor and ask for a prescription drug? How dare Michael take medicaments? Obviously a junkie. Anyone who takes medicaments is (statistics prove 99% of elderly people are). How dare a Luppus patient (Michael's case) ask for narcotics? How dare a guy who is on excrutiating pain 24/7, a sympton of Luppus, ask for painkillers? How?

His children should have been removed from him a LONG time ago. The pedo! He was the only man on Earth who was able to get away with IT. I bet he raped Prince. And Blanket had his days numbered.

I was also operated 3 years ago to the spine. I begged doctors to prescribe painkillers. I'm, obviously, a big junkie as well, right? Damn...I should be locked in Sobral Cid (Portugal'ls equivalent to California 5051)! How dare a person, who is in pain, beg doctors for narcotics? HOW? How dare a person take medicaments? Isn't it obvious that anyone who takes a medicament is a junkie?

How dare a person be an insomniac after 45 years of public scrutiny, humiliation and multiple allegations of child abuse? Facts scream junkie, isn't it Reel?

The loving Jacksons should have put Michael on the line! Joe Jackson just wanted the best for his beloved son...but Michael wouldn't have it!!! I bet the children are now safe with the likes of Randy, Joe, Jermaine, Latoya, Tito and so on near! The ones who just wanted to save Michael are now saving his probably-raped and most-likely-targeted-by-the-pedo children!

Isn't it, Reel? Let's all cheer! The pathological-guy is now dead.

THE MAN DIED AS A RESULT OF DRUG ABUSE!!!!! If there is no other way to manage insomnia than lethal means leading to DEATH then we have a big big problem on this earth.

That's what you haven't understood, Reel. He didn't die as a result of drug abuse. He died because he wanted to sleep, since he was an insomniac and therefore hired a doctor to put him to sleep safely. One night, the doctor administered 40x more Propofol than he should so Jackson died. His death has absolutely nothing to do with drug addiction. Even if he was an addict, that has nothing to to with his death. And that's what you haven't understood yet. I will be the first one to point the finger at him...when there are reasons to do so. But, it seems, I am the one who is pissing in the wind.

He didn't die as a result of drug addiction, but you are so hard headed that no evidence will ever be enough. Try the "piss on the wind" and the "worshipper" arguments. I imagine you going far in life, shall the sarcasm continue.