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Reply #90 posted 06/22/10 5:25pm

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greatpink said:

WOW. That's a great shot. Sooooo cute. mushy

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Reply #91 posted 06/22/10 5:31pm

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he looks REALLY good with the slick short hair.

WaterInYourBath said:

dag said:

It's part of a collection of prints and outtakes from an unreleased 1999 photo shoot in Paris, which will be available as a book in October this year. The pictures were supposed to have been used to promote Invincible, but were rejected by Sony for some reason:

Early December 2010, Pierre Bergé & Associés will organize an exceptional auction of Michael Jackson’s unpublished portraits. These photographs of the pop king are the result of an extraordinary adventure lived by a young French photographer, Arno Bani, to whom the star exceptionally entrusted his image.
Arno Bani, entirely free in the production of this session, created 4 different artistic scénarii and chose the greatest fashion professionals to work with him: Yves Saint Laurent, François Lesage, Topolino, Seb Bascle, Frédérique Lorca and Maïda, etc.
During this sale, 12 unique and never disclosed portraits, numbered 1 of 1, as well as the contact boards of this photography session, among which those selected by Michael Jackson himself, will be presented for auction.
This auction, organized by Pierre Bergé & Associés, will undoubtedly give rise to considerable interest among the collectors but also the fans of the pop star.
The catalog of this sale will be available from October in co-edition with Editions du Chêne - Hachette Group, and distributed internationally.
Furthermore, a luxury box including a photograph from this session will be proposed in limited edition.

Source: http://www.pba-auctions-m...m/home.php

Some of the outtakes:

[img:$uid]http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6506/115289unemj30486.jpg[/img:$uid]

I hope there are some that will be released with him looking up (eyes open at the camera), instead of looking down like that.

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Reply #92 posted 06/22/10 5:52pm

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Moonwalkbjrain said:

he looks REALLY good with the slick short hair.

WaterInYourBath said:

He sure did. nod It's like late 80s El DeBarge hair. love Hotness.

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Reply #93 posted 06/22/10 6:05pm

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bboy87 said:

[img:$uid]http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/4103/arnobanishoot.jpg[/img:$uid]

eek I think I like it. nod

[Edited 6/22/10 18:17pm]

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Reply #94 posted 06/22/10 6:13pm

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dreamfactory313 said:

Katherine Jackson's Message to Michael's Fans:

http://abcnews.go.com/Ent...st=2898870

cry

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Reply #95 posted 06/22/10 7:26pm

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[img:$uid]http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/4103/arnobanishoot.jpg[/img:$uid]

Woooooooooooooow!!!!!!!!!!! eek eek eek

Bboy, where do you get these gems from? Do you know some people? razz

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Reply #96 posted 06/22/10 7:41pm

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dag said:

Anyways, I´ve just seen first part of that Ian Harpin documentary and I am bawling like crazy. This is so hard and the first anniversary is going to be really tough. Anyway, the first part was kinda ok even though there were small bits that irritated me, but it was just a sum up of what was in the news regarding the death. It was watchable. Second part airing next week does not look that good. I´ve seen the small clips and it showed some woman screamin he´s a typical peadophile, they showed Mike dangling Blanket and spoke about kids having DNA, so I don´t expect it to turn well.

cry Sorry, I´ve been just crying ever since it began on TV.

It will be tough seeing all the specials and hastily put together shows. However, don't rush to judgement on part two of the Halperin doco (?) as what they show on the commercial I am sure is taking the most salacious moments to draw viewers in.

It airs here in Australia on Sunday night - interesting to see how it comes out and trying to keep an open mind.

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Reply #97 posted 06/22/10 8:36pm

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WaterInYourBath said:

dag said:

It's part of a collection of prints and outtakes from an unreleased 1999 photo shoot in Paris, which will be available as a book in October this year. The pictures were supposed to have been used to promote Invincible, but were rejected by Sony for some reason:

Early December 2010, Pierre Bergé & Associés will organize an exceptional auction of Michael Jackson’s unpublished portraits. These photographs of the pop king are the result of an extraordinary adventure lived by a young French photographer, Arno Bani, to whom the star exceptionally entrusted his image.
Arno Bani, entirely free in the production of this session, created 4 different artistic scénarii and chose the greatest fashion professionals to work with him: Yves Saint Laurent, François Lesage, Topolino, Seb Bascle, Frédérique Lorca and Maïda, etc.
During this sale, 12 unique and never disclosed portraits, numbered 1 of 1, as well as the contact boards of this photography session, among which those selected by Michael Jackson himself, will be presented for auction.
This auction, organized by Pierre Bergé & Associés, will undoubtedly give rise to considerable interest among the collectors but also the fans of the pop star.
The catalog of this sale will be available from October in co-edition with Editions du Chêne - Hachette Group, and distributed internationally.
Furthermore, a luxury box including a photograph from this session will be proposed in limited edition.

Source: http://www.pba-auctions-m...m/home.php

Some of the outtakes:

[img:$uid]http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6506/115289unemj30486.jpg[/img:$uid]

I hope there are some that will be released with him looking up (eyes open at the camera), instead of looking down like that.

Thanks! I really want to see more pics, especially in better resolution. I honestly thought it was photoshopped. I guess during the teen pop invasion, Sony probably thought these pics were too far from mainstream. I love it. Very artistic and magical - like him.

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Reply #98 posted 06/22/10 9:22pm

suga10

These photos are very futuristic, afterall it was done in 1999. Very much in touch with the whole Millennium and Y2K stuff.

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Reply #99 posted 06/22/10 11:35pm

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EmeraldSkies said:

bboy87 said:

[img:$uid]http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/4103/arnobanishoot.jpg[/img:$uid]

eek I think I like it. nod

[Edited 6/22/10 18:17pm]

Me too. cool

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Reply #100 posted 06/22/10 11:48pm

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MyLuv229 said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1288055/Michael-Jacksons-children-to-school-time.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

After years of living as one of the most closely protected families in the world, Michael Jackson’s three children are to attend school for the first time.

In an emotional interview to mark the first anniversary of the singer’s death, their grandmother and guardian Katherine Jackson has told The Mail on Sunday that she is determined to give Prince, Paris and Blanket a more conventional upbringing.

Until now, they have been taught at home, in keeping with Michael ’s policy of keeping them largely hidden from the outside world.

‘I’d say I’m a little less strict but I’ve tried to follow the way Michael was raising them,’ she says in her first interview since he died of a suspected heart attack on June 25 last year at his Los Angeles home.

‘But they don’t have friends. They don’t go to school. They have private lessons at home. They’ll be going to a private school in September for the first time.’

The 80-year-old great-grandmother laughs at the idea the children could ever have a wholly normal life, but says they have a healthy routine of daily schoolwork, karate and swimming.

She says there is hardly a day without visits from members of her extended family to her home in Los Angeles. ‘Having them around has helped the children immensely. They go places together and have fun. They listen to Michael’s music.’

Katherine has come under media scrutiny again in recent weeks after reported comments by her husband, Joe Jackson, who said she was in part responsible for Michael’s death – a sentiment he has now retracted.

And last week her youngest son, Randy, was rushed to hospital with a heart attack, but he seems to be recovering.

Throughout, however, she says her priority has been caring for her grandchildren Prince, 13, Paris, 12, and Blanket, eight.

Katherine was made their legal guardian in the weeks following Michael’s death, although she has no control over his estate, which is held in a trust fund.
Michael with his mother Katherine on her birthday in 1984
The three children have been deeply affected, she says. Paris has created a shrine to him in her bedroom. ‘I wanted to hang pictures of flowers or ballerinas, like I would expect a girl would.

But she went into the closet and she brought out seven or eight pictures of Michael and said, “No, I want Daddy hanging in my room. I always want to see him.”

‘So she goes to bed looking at him and wakes up looking at him. Paris has that lovely way like Michael, and I see his talent in her. Whatever she does she’s very good at it. She’s a good artist and plays the piano. She wants to be an actress.’

Katherine believes all three share something of Michael. Prince is interested in the arts, hoping to be a film producer, while Blanket has his sense of playfulness.
She says it was some time after Michael took Prince and Paris to a concert to celebrate his 30th anniversary as a solo entertainer in 2001 that they began to understand how famous he was.

‘Michael told me a story. He said the two little ones were in the audience. When he got backstage they said, “So you’re a big star, huh? When I grow up I want to be just like you!” And Michael said he got the biggest chuckle out of that.’
To help her face up to Friday’s anniversary, Katherine has put together a collection of Jackson family photographs, in Never Can Say Goodbye: The Katherine Jackson Archives.

She says: ‘I love looking at photos of my children singing and dancing together, when they looked happy. Not a day goes by I don’t think about Michael.
Prince Michael Jackson and Paris have started karate classes to keep them occupied while they grieve the passing of their father, who died in June last year
‘It’s hard for me to talk about without getting all choked up. Years will pass by and I’ll still feel the same way. I have a nephew I am very close to who I’ve have leaned on a lot. Prayer has helped me. I don’t have any regrets. I just live for the children.’

She continues: ‘Michael was so misunderstood. I remember when he brought gifts up to the house for me: a watch, a necklace and ring. I’ll never forget the way he was smiling when I opened each one. He was so generous. He’d give you the shirt off his back.

‘I want the world to know the real Michael. All these allegations in the tabloids, it’s all rubbish.

‘People with children will understand how I feel when somebody says something ugly about my son, especially when it’s not true. That’s why I’m releasing the book. I’d like him to be remembered as the loving person he was.

'People can’t understand it because of the child molestation claims falsely laid on him. It’s just greedy people who wanted money.’
Family: The singer with his children Paris (left) and Prince Michael in early 2009

A year on from his death, Michael’s mother does not accept he died of natural causes.

‘He was too young for that, but something happened. I heard from people he was taking prescription drugs but I’ve never seen my son in any way  . . .  even talking to him on the phone, he was always himself.

‘I never asked him about that as he was always normal. I don’t think he just died of natural causes. I don’t believe that. It was someone who was watching over him  . . .  and he died. If I could see him again I would ask him, “Who did this to you?”

‘One thing I hope for is the next year will be better for me and the family. I hope people continue to remember Michael and keep celebrating his legacy. I hope that things get better for me in time. His death has already brought the family closer together. I want us to be even more close.

‘I try not to regret. I try not to think like that because I don’t think Michael would have had his life any other way. Sometimes I start to tear up.

‘But I am happy about it because I know the world is missing and remembering my son. I could see the fans taking pictures, posing in front of the house. I know Michael would have been happy to see that. I just miss him every day.’

Wow Randy had a heart attack? That's sad. I always believe that one of those siblings is probably going to hold more guilt than the rest. One will feel "What if I tried to reach him harder" whether realistic or not. I don't know the reason for Randy's heart attack. But I would not be shocked if it were not stressed related. Poor Katherine seems to be in total denial about her son's multiple drug addiction even 1 year after he died. Not sure one can really expect more from an 80 year old woman. At least she sees the need to have those kids socialized with friends of their own. Jermaine's son recently tried to shoot one of them with a Bibi (beebee) gun of sorts, and Child Welfare was called a few months back. I would like to see those kids with either Janet or Rebi. But I really don't know either women, and I'm sure that if Janet wanted kids, she'd be raising her own at this time.

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Reply #101 posted 06/22/10 11:53pm

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Swa said:

luv4u said:

I caught a bit of it in Walmart one night. Worth getting.

It is a movie that is worthy of seeing, not only for a concert that would have been amongst the best ever seen, but for seeing Michael in his true element, as creative instrument.

It's the little glimpses behind the scenes that make it truly wonderful, and bittersweet.

I saw that movie the first week it hit the theaters. Michael still "Had It". Despite what everyone is saying, he did not look all that underweight to me. It wasn't like he was smoking crack, he was using other drugs. Not all addicts lose weight.

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Reply #102 posted 06/22/10 11:57pm

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greatpink said:

WaterInYourBath said:

That's Jackie, isn't it? It looks like Jackie, lol. Michael was wearing a brown sweater during that visit.

I'm not sure, honestly. And don't know any more where I got it from sad

WaterInYourBath, which visit? Please tell more.

dag, I have few rare pics here, but I can't guarantee, that some of them were not already posted in one of twenty "R.I.P." and thirteen "discuss anything" threads.

[Edited 6/20/10 11:38am]

The infamous scarecrow scene from the movie The Wiz. Michael sings "You can't win" in this movie (if you haven't heard him sing this song, youtube it). I think he sounds his most soulful in this song. BTW The lead singer for the Village People performed in The Wiz also, the play on Broadway. Those were some talented folks.

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Reply #103 posted 06/23/10 12:06am

trueiopian

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[img:$uid]http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/4103/arnobanishoot.jpg[/img:$uid]

Is this real!? love He looks gorgeoussss!!!!

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Reply #104 posted 06/23/10 12:17am

Reel

WaterInYourBath said:

greatpink said:

WOW. That's a great shot. Sooooo cute. mushy

Michael, there was absolutely nothing wrong with your appearance here. Damn you Joe Jackson! He was condemned to a lifetime of being unhappy with his appearance. Even if he did have the Vitaligro, that does not excuse the multiple nose jobs, the chisled jawline and the cleft chin. So sooo sad. Don't know if he was trying to not look black, or he was trying to not look like Joe Jackson, or if he was trying some how to escape his reality. I say all those surgeons should be in jail. The first rule "Do no harm".

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Reply #105 posted 06/23/10 12:20am

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Reel said:

MyLuv229 said:

After years of living as one of the most closely protected families in the world, Michael Jackson’s three children are to attend school for the first time.

In an emotional interview to mark the first anniversary of the singer’s death, their grandmother and guardian Katherine Jackson has told The Mail on Sunday that she is determined to give Prince, Paris and Blanket a more conventional upbringing.

Until now, they have been taught at home, in keeping with Michael ’s policy of keeping them largely hidden from the outside world.

‘I’d say I’m a little less strict but I’ve tried to follow the way Michael was raising them,’ she says in her first interview since he died of a suspected heart attack on June 25 last year at his Los Angeles home.

‘But they don’t have friends. They don’t go to school. They have private lessons at home. They’ll be going to a private school in September for the first time.’

The 80-year-old great-grandmother laughs at the idea the children could ever have a wholly normal life, but says they have a healthy routine of daily schoolwork, karate and swimming.

She says there is hardly a day without visits from members of her extended family to her home in Los Angeles. ‘Having them around has helped the children immensely. They go places together and have fun. They listen to Michael’s music.’

Katherine has come under media scrutiny again in recent weeks after reported comments by her husband, Joe Jackson, who said she was in part responsible for Michael’s death – a sentiment he has now retracted.

And last week her youngest son, Randy, was rushed to hospital with a heart attack, but he seems to be recovering.

Throughout, however, she says her priority has been caring for her grandchildren Prince, 13, Paris, 12, and Blanket, eight.

Katherine was made their legal guardian in the weeks following Michael’s death, although she has no control over his estate, which is held in a trust fund.
Michael with his mother Katherine on her birthday in 1984
The three children have been deeply affected, she says. Paris has created a shrine to him in her bedroom. ‘I wanted to hang pictures of flowers or ballerinas, like I would expect a girl would.

But she went into the closet and she brought out seven or eight pictures of Michael and said, “No, I want Daddy hanging in my room. I always want to see him.”

‘So she goes to bed looking at him and wakes up looking at him. Paris has that lovely way like Michael, and I see his talent in her. Whatever she does she’s very good at it. She’s a good artist and plays the piano. She wants to be an actress.’

Katherine believes all three share something of Michael. Prince is interested in the arts, hoping to be a film producer, while Blanket has his sense of playfulness.
She says it was some time after Michael took Prince and Paris to a concert to celebrate his 30th anniversary as a solo entertainer in 2001 that they began to understand how famous he was.

‘Michael told me a story. He said the two little ones were in the audience. When he got backstage they said, “So you’re a big star, huh? When I grow up I want to be just like you!” And Michael said he got the biggest chuckle out of that.’
To help her face up to Friday’s anniversary, Katherine has put together a collection of Jackson family photographs, in Never Can Say Goodbye: The Katherine Jackson Archives.

She says: ‘I love looking at photos of my children singing and dancing together, when they looked happy. Not a day goes by I don’t think about Michael.
Prince Michael Jackson and Paris have started karate classes to keep them occupied while they grieve the passing of their father, who died in June last year
‘It’s hard for me to talk about without getting all choked up. Years will pass by and I’ll still feel the same way. I have a nephew I am very close to who I’ve have leaned on a lot. Prayer has helped me. I don’t have any regrets. I just live for the children.’

She continues: ‘Michael was so misunderstood. I remember when he brought gifts up to the house for me: a watch, a necklace and ring. I’ll never forget the way he was smiling when I opened each one. He was so generous. He’d give you the shirt off his back.

‘I want the world to know the real Michael. All these allegations in the tabloids, it’s all rubbish.

‘People with children will understand how I feel when somebody says something ugly about my son, especially when it’s not true. That’s why I’m releasing the book. I’d like him to be remembered as the loving person he was.

'People can’t understand it because of the child molestation claims falsely laid on him. It’s just greedy people who wanted money.’
Family: The singer with his children Paris (left) and Prince Michael in early 2009

A year on from his death, Michael’s mother does not accept he died of natural causes.

‘He was too young for that, but something happened. I heard from people he was taking prescription drugs but I’ve never seen my son in any way  . . .  even talking to him on the phone, he was always himself.

‘I never asked him about that as he was always normal. I don’t think he just died of natural causes. I don’t believe that. It was someone who was watching over him  . . .  and he died. If I could see him again I would ask him, “Who did this to you?”

‘One thing I hope for is the next year will be better for me and the family. I hope people continue to remember Michael and keep celebrating his legacy. I hope that things get better for me in time. His death has already brought the family closer together. I want us to be even more close.

‘I try not to regret. I try not to think like that because I don’t think Michael would have had his life any other way. Sometimes I start to tear up.

‘But I am happy about it because I know the world is missing and remembering my son. I could see the fans taking pictures, posing in front of the house. I know Michael would have been happy to see that. I just miss him every day.’

Wow Randy had a heart attack? That's sad. I always believe that one of those siblings is probably going to hold more guilt than the rest. One will feel "What if I tried to reach him harder" whether realistic or not. I don't know the reason for Randy's heart attack. But I would not be shocked if it were not stressed related. Poor Katherine seems to be in total denial about her son's multiple drug addiction even 1 year after he died. Not sure one can really expect more from an 80 year old woman. At least she sees the need to have those kids socialized with friends of their own. Jermaine's son recently tried to shoot one of them with a Bibi (beebee) gun of sorts, and Child Welfare was called a few months back. I would like to see those kids with either Janet or Rebi. But I really don't know either women, and I'm sure that if Janet wanted kids, she'd be raising her own at this time.

This isn't Randy's first health scare. He had a mild attack some years ago and then you'll remember the car accident he had back in 1980

Randy is suspicious of the people that were around Michael and feels there were more involved in his death.

I don't think she's denial, but at the same time, different family members have different accounts so who knows what was really going down

All the siblings (except for Marlon and Jackie) have given their accounts in what they think was going on with Michael and they all differ....

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Reply #106 posted 06/23/10 12:21am

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bboy87 said:

[img:$uid]http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/4103/arnobanishoot.jpg[/img:$uid]

eek I think I like it. nod

It's beautiful photography with a very interesting (and amazingly current) concept....But, the more I look at this one....I don't know, besides his hair, I'm not crazy about it....However, I think I would have loved it in 2001 had it been used then, even though it doesn't look like it was taken in 1999 (he looks older, like it was taken last year).

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Reply #107 posted 06/23/10 12:21am

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trueiopian said:

bboy87 said:

[img:$uid]http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/4103/arnobanishoot.jpg[/img:$uid]

Is this real!? love He looks gorgeoussss!!!!

yep, it was considered for the Invincible album

I'm getting a David Bowie vibe cool

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Reply #108 posted 06/23/10 12:23am

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Lyrics to an unreleased song from 1979 titled "In The Life of Chico"

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A really cool article from last year

Michael Jackson: recording Dangerous with Teddy Riley
Producer reveals King Of Pop's studio secrets

http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/michael-jackson-studio-secrets-from-teddy-riley-211776

Future Music, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 1:24 pm BST


Released in 1991, Dangerous was the follow-up to 1987's Bad.

VIEW IN GALLERY
Much has been written about Michael Jackson over the past week – possibly too much – but one of the few things we know for certain about this most mysterious and controversial of characters is that he leaves us with an amazing body of work.

Dangerous, his 1991 album, may not have been his biggest release, but it's still managed to shift more units than most artists manage in their entire careers.

In an interview conducted last year, super-producer Teddy Riley spoke about his work with Jackson on Dangerous, providing some revealing insight into how the King Of Pop operated when he was in the studio.

HOW IT HAPPENED
"I got the call to produce some tracks on Michael Jackson's Dangerous around 1991," Riley begins, as if recalling a matter of fact phone conversation with a telesales marketer – it's not like it happens every day!

"No, it sure doesn't," confesses Riley, reflecting on the shear magnitude of the topic. But being a Michael Jackson record, Dangerous was always going to sell, right? So, where's the pressure?

"There was more pressure," he says. "I didn't want to be the one to fail Michael. And I'm so grateful it didn't. It thankfully went on to become a success, selling about 34 million records, I think ."

"Thriller is a massive album, Bad is a big album, but Dangerous sits in the middle." Teddy Riley, speaking in 2008Teddy isn't quick to compare Dangerous to the rest of Jackson's mammoth cannon of world-changing work, but will admit that it was what he considers to be his 'last great record': "It's not a comparison to Thriller," says Riley. "Thriller is a massive album, Bad is a big album, but Dangerous sits in the middle."

The Jackson camp wanted a producer who had his ear to the street. It wasn't like the new wonder of MTV could be exploited again as with Thriller. What Jackson needed was a 'hot' sound, and a producer who understood what the icon needed to avoid becoming irrelevant in the wake of the scores of young, black and urban artists stepping up to fill Jackson's sequined glove.





"For Dangerous, I brought RnB back to Michael in its barest form; RnB and Funk," says Riley. "We recorded it in California, at Record One, and then we ended up in Larrabee Studios. I was using a lot of vintage stuff to get the sound we needed. Reeds and SSL XLs were mainly the boards we used – I always loved vintage better than digital. It's way better… much warmer."

Scan the credits on Dangerous and you'll see that Jackson gets a lot of co-production dues: "On every album Michael does, he has some sort of input," says Riley, "so I didn't mind him getting a co-production." Well, you can't exactly tell the King Of Pop he can't, can you?




JAM

"Jam was a track that Michael had the idea for. He told me to see what I could do with it so I took it and created some more instruments and reproduced the record – and he loved it.

"That's the way it worked a lot of the time. He'd come in with an idea and I'd flesh it out in the studio. He bought it to me as a DAT, and he told me there were things he wanted done, and I did them. It was my idea to get the rapper Heavy D to perform on there as well. He was Michael's favourite rapper at the time."

WHY YOU WANNA TRIP ON ME

"The element I'm most proud of in this song is my guitar playing. I thought he was going to get another person to play on it but he wanted my good self playing! That was something special to me. I was using an acoustic Ovation guitar.

"The whole song didn't take long to produce, actually. I think the longest part was writing everything and getting everything formatted. There's no studio trickery either, really. When you're doing analogue it's pretty much, you know, getting everything on tape, you know? It's very warm. That's basically it."

IN THE CLOSET

"Now, In the Closet was something Michael came up with, and it came out exactly as he wanted the track to be. He kind of put his vocals on a Dictaphone when he was in another room. He'd often record the vocals on a Dictaphone and take them into the studio and then see how it would all work out.

"This is some of Michael's more explicit material on there, in terms of lyrical content ! But it didn't surprise you at the time. No, not at all."


SHE DRIVES ME WILD

"My biggest memory from that recording was that we used all car sounds as drum sounds and it came out perfectly. I didn't go out into the field and record actual car sounds and take back to the studio – I had a sample CD that was really cool. It wasn't something I'd done before; it was the first time I went for unusual sounds in the place of drums."

REMEMBER THE TIME

"One of the biggest things Michael really surprised me with on the Dangerous album was his vocal deliverance on Remember The Time. That really blew me away. I came to the project with this track. That was the sound I was thinking of for this album. Basically it was the sound I wanted on Dangerous and he loved it – loved it from the beginning. I'd describe that sound as, really, like the New Jack Swing sound.

"He'd often record the vocals on a Dictaphone and take them into the studio and then see how it would all work out." Teddy Riley, speaking in2008
"The elements on this song that give it that New Jack Swing sound are the ones that I used when I recorded with Guy and Bobby Brown to pioneer it. Sort of like the twisted samples I brought in. There were no samples of other people on that; what I did was make the sounds myself – I was sampling myself. I'd just jam with a riff and think, 'That's a cool bit there…' Yeah, it kinda really brought a lot to the production side. It worked."

CAN'T LET HER GET AWAY

"This was mostly from a sample CD that I just put together myself, and it kind of reminded me of the James Brown sound. I could feel it. I thought I'd bring a shadow of some of the greatness of the James Brown production sound to this. I made the sample CD myself – that was me playing instruments, then looping them up and having them lying around for potential projects. Back then I just had them lying around and I hadn't used them… But I really wanted to use them!

"Throughout the album I was drawing off a lot of CDs I had hanging around, all played by myself. I'm a multi-instrumentalist."


HEAL THE WORLD

"This has strong global issues – it was a big song. I didn't produce it though, all I did to that song was complement it. Heal The World had a lot more instrumentation on it before I got to it. I thought it needed different things that would really appeal. I did quite a lot of the percussion on there. I did that on there to bring something extra to the mix."

BLACK OR WHITE

"Again I didn't produce this. But again, I added the percussion to the track. I used wood percussion – cow bells, shakers and things like that. Producer Bill Bottrell had an EIII drum machine playing loops. I sat with the track for a while then I said, 'OK, this is a good track. But what it needs is instrumentation'. It had the guitars and Slash from Guns N' Roses on there but I felt if it was going to play live and acoustical, then we'd need to add some acoustical percussion. It was the case that I'd find the tracks very studio sounding and I wanted to add the live funk to them."

WHO IS IT

"This reminds me so much of Dirty Diana. I think he recaptured that sound on this song. You know, I think he went back to his roots of recording with this song to record an incredible track. I thought it would take someone like Quincy Jones to really put an incredible track like that together. I thought it would take someone like Quincy to get that sound, but Michael came up with it.

"Quincy Jones was like a quality controller for Michael. If Michael had the chance he'd keep working on songs forever." Teddy Riley, speaking in2008 "It was really difficult for me having to follow in Quincy Jones' footsteps. He left big footsteps! He did hear this album and he really gave me a great compliment on my production. He heard it before it was released and he said this was a masterpiece, and that it's ready to come out.

"Michael was taking so long and he brought Quincy in to hear it – he was like a quality controller for Michael. If Michael had the chance he'd keep working on songs forever."

GIVE IN TO ME

"Bill Bottrell put in some great production on this track. Because he had his hand in there it ended up sounding perfect. He had the magic touch and had everything levelled up nicely. He's been doing it for so long. He's the best with microphones, and knowing where to sit the instruments on the track. He's really good.

"I also like Bruce Swedien who mixed some tracks on this album. I'd never worked with Brucey before that. But I always ask for him as an engineer after working with him on this."



WILL YOU BE THERE

"This is Michael again. Bringing a vocal choir in on the track was a stroke of genius. It's something I'd consider doing since hearing him do it. It's a long song as well, a lot of this album really clocks in. This nearly hits eight minutes, I think – it's not a punchy radio edit! Yes, it's long but it came across really well for the album. A lot of the songs on the album are long. That's what makes the album I think."

KEEP THE FAITH

"I really admire the work that went into this track. Anything Michael does, I can admire. It doesn't really remind you of any of his other songs; this one's a bit different to his usual tracks but it stands out. Michael's always innovative. With this track, I just think he went another way due to the structure of the track and the instruments used. Well, that and him working with Glen Ballard with the writing on it – they kind of went head-on with that track."

GONE TOO SOON

"Another innovative track. I think he was trying to reinvent himself and become more credible; more commercial and he achieves that here. It reminds me of a more worldly version of She's Out Of My Life. With this album he's hinting at his past songs as well as trying to reinvent himself."

DANGEROUS

"Dangerous was about a woman who was just so beyond, you know, beyond the best girl he's ever been with. That was the name of the album, so we thought about doing a song called Dangerous, and Michael came up with the hook. So I said, 'Let me get into the music'. I went to my lab and put the track together.

"The track evolved: Michael came in with the hook, I did the music and then we finalised the song. We used a drum machine, the Akai MPC-60, and a lot of the sounds from that and samples I had on my sample CDs. There's no science to it, I just feel my way through the production. I always feel my way – I never do anything the same."


TEDDY RILEY ON WORKING WITH MICHAEL JACKSON

"We talked regularly before I produced the album and he described everything he was looking for, sound-wise. He pulled out one of my songs from the Guy album, which I sing, and he said he wanted that sound. He wanted something driving like that.

"He always pushed me to be different and innovative and strong. He was demanding and we'd work on songs for a long time; we always had to get the mix right. We had the elements, but we had to get the mix right.

"With the sessions, he'd spend a long time doing vocals and sometimes he'd do it on his own. I didn't even have to be there at every session, because he likes to do stuff on his own. He was an inspiration to work with. I kinda learned his way of working and stuck with that formula – so he changed the way I worked on production with artists.

"Since the Dangerous project I've learned to get the writing done before I even approach a song on tape. The writing must be right, you know? Perfect. Before you even start.

"It's difficult to pick out the strongest elements on the album. Is it my music or his lyrics? In the end, I'd say it's both. There was nothing weaker than the other. That's why it was such a perfect album and such a big seller."

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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http://www.victoriaadvocate.com/news/2010/jun/22/bc-mi-jackson-exhibit1st-ld-writethru/?features&national-entertainment

DETROIT (AP) - Reproduced black-and-white Jackson 5 photographs hang on the Motown Historical Museum's walls. Across the room, a glass case holds mannequins wearing colorful concert uniforms from group performances in the 1960s and '70s.

It all leaves Esperanza Pena, who was among the first Tuesday to see the Detroit museum's new Jackson 5 exhibit, feeling nostalgic.

"It was emotional," said Pena, 51, of Austin, Texas. "The memories, it just brings everything back to life."

Coming a year after Michael Jackson's death last June, the display - situated in a corner of the two-story museum - includes trophies, plaques from the Jackson 5 and Ebony magazine covers featuring the group.

Michael Jackson donated a black top hat, a shiny silver glove and a Jackson 5 uniform when he visited the museum in 1988. He also gave the museum $125,000 during the same visit.

Museum chief curator Lina Stephens said she decided to gather materials and create the exhibit after the public requested it.

"Since they are part of the Motown family, we need to celebrate and acknowledge their contribution to the Motown story," she said.

Sharon Gammey and a friend sat outside the museum Tuesday discussing the group's videos and singing songs by Michael Jackson and the Jackson 5.

Gammey, 45, of Eastpointe, said the displays reminded her of the Jackson 5 vinyl records she owned when she was younger.

"It was interesting," she said. The Jackson 5 "brought in a younger generation of viewers."

The museum welcomes the public to stop by and pay their respects to Michael Jackson on the anniversary of his death Friday. Stephens said no official program is set up, but a Jackson impersonator will be outside the museum from 10 a.m. to 1 p.m.

Last year, mourners gathered in front of the museum after Jackson's death and left notes, stuffed animals and pictures on the front steps.

Stephens said the Jackson 5 exhibit will be open through October.

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #112 posted 06/23/10 12:41am

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bboy87 said:

trueiopian said:

Is this real!? love He looks gorgeoussss!!!!

yep, it was considered for the Invincible album

I'm getting a David Bowie vibe cool

Yea, I'm getting that vibe too. Looks like it was shot in the late 90's. HIStory era?

Do you have more? mushy

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Reply #113 posted 06/23/10 12:54am

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MyLuv229 said:

WaterInYourBath said:

Thanks! I really want to see more pics, especially in better resolution. I honestly thought it was photoshopped. I guess during the teen pop invasion, Sony probably thought these pics were too far from mainstream. I love it. Very artistic and magical - like him.

eek eek eek WOW! THEY LOOK AMAZING! Love the hair. Wish he wore it like that all the time. love love I want more, more, more.....

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #114 posted 06/23/10 12:55am

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trueiopian said:

bboy87 said:

yep, it was considered for the Invincible album

I'm getting a David Bowie vibe cool

Yea, I'm getting that vibe too. Looks like it was shot in the late 90's. HIStory era?

Do you have more? mushy

Just these

[img:$uid]http://i49.tinypic.com/nasyc.jpg[/img:$uid]

They're gonna be part of a book that's coming out in October

They were done in 1999 in France. Sony apparently didn't like them. I can kinda see why too although I think they're great pictures

I think Invincible in the beginning was more promising than the resulting released version. He had done the demo to Fall Again, A Place With No Name, Beautiful Girl, and Another Day. Some of the outtakes that have come out sound better than the songs that made the album lol

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An off-topic question. yesterday watching that Harpin documentary, they showed that in part two they are going to show some letters written by Mike to June Chandler. Has anyone ever heard of them? Do you know what´s in them? It seemed like a love letter. I´ve heard rumours about the two of them having possible romance, but I am not sure about it.

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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #116 posted 06/23/10 1:00am

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bboy87 said:

trueiopian said:

Yea, I'm getting that vibe too. Looks like it was shot in the late 90's. HIStory era?

Do you have more? mushy

Just these

[img:$uid]http://i49.tinypic.com/nasyc.jpg[/img:$uid]

They're gonna be part of a book that's coming out in October

They were done in 1999 in France. Sony apparently didn't like them. I can kinda see why too although I think they're great pictures

I think Invincible in the beginning was more promising than the resulting released version. He had done the demo to Fall Again, A Place With No Name, Beautiful Girl, and Another Day. Some of the outtakes that have come out sound better than the songs that made the album lol

I don't see why they wouldn't like them razz

HOLD UP! falloff whofarted I've never heard of these demos. I got A LOT of catching up to do since I got banned off that butt hurt MJ forum. Direct me to these demos, puhleseeeee! lol

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trueiopian said:

bboy87 said:

Just these

[img:$uid]http://i49.tinypic.com/nasyc.jpg[/img:$uid]

They're gonna be part of a book that's coming out in October

They were done in 1999 in France. Sony apparently didn't like them. I can kinda see why too although I think they're great pictures

I think Invincible in the beginning was more promising than the resulting released version. He had done the demo to Fall Again, A Place With No Name, Beautiful Girl, and Another Day. Some of the outtakes that have come out sound better than the songs that made the album lol

I don't see why they wouldn't like them razz

HOLD UP! falloff whofarted I've never heard of these demos. I got A LOT of catching up to do since I got banned off that butt hurt MJ forum. Direct me to these demos, puhleseeeee! lol

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You haven't heard any of them? eek

Fall Again and Beautiful Girl were on The Ultimate Collection

Fall Again (1999)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZHsL6C3awY

Beautiful Girl (1998)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqn715zIgsI

We only have snippets of A Place With No Name and Another Day right now but it's been said that Another Day will be on the album that's coming out in November

A Place With No Name (1998)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f65xzL7ebeI

Another Day (2000 or 2001) featuring Lenny Kravitz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvjGkD5Qo00

then there's Escape

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb__DmgDeVM

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Reply #118 posted 06/23/10 1:22am

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trueiopian said:

bboy87 said:

Just these

[img:$uid]http://i49.tinypic.com/nasyc.jpg[/img:$uid]

They're gonna be part of a book that's coming out in October

They were done in 1999 in France. Sony apparently didn't like them. I can kinda see why too although I think they're great pictures

I think Invincible in the beginning was more promising than the resulting released version. He had done the demo to Fall Again, A Place With No Name, Beautiful Girl, and Another Day. Some of the outtakes that have come out sound better than the songs that made the album lol

I don't see why they wouldn't like them razz

HOLD UP! falloff whofarted I've never heard of these demos. I got A LOT of catching up to do since I got banned off that butt hurt MJ forum. Direct me to these demos, puhleseeeee! lol

[Edited 6/23/10 1:01am]

GIRL YOU GOT A LOT OF CATCHING UP TO DO! Those songs been out for a LONG time! lol GET TO IT! YOUTUBE NOW! lol

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Reply #119 posted 06/23/10 1:25am

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dag said:

An off-topic question. yesterday watching that Harpin documentary, they should that in part two they are going to show some letters written by Mike to June Chandler. Does anyone ever heard of them? Do you know what´s in them? It seemed like a love letter. I´ve heard rumours about the two of them having possible romance, but I am not sure about it.

Halperin said that? neutral

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