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Reply #120 posted 04/27/10 11:52am

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NDRU said:

shorttrini said:



If that's the case, I want my money back now. I am not going to sit through Whitney singing, "My Love Is Your Love". People who go to see Whitney, want to hear her sing those note climbing, show stoppers...It's like going to see MJ and he not singing or dancing to "Billie Jean", but singing, "Be Not Always". I told you, her best strategy, is dinner theater....Maybe Vegas, where people are too drunk by the third song to know, if you are hitting the notes correctly anyway.



I'd prefer an artist changes a little than try to preserve an illusion from 20 years ago though the audience's intoxication lol

But we can agree to disagree, because I wouldn't care if I never heard MJ sing Billie Jean or Prince sing Purple Rain or Whitney sing I will Always Love You ever again!
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Reply #121 posted 04/27/10 11:55am

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shorttrini said:

NDRU said:



I'd prefer an artist changes a little than try to preserve an illusion from 20 years ago though the audience's intoxication lol

But we can agree to disagree, because I wouldn't care if I never heard MJ sing Billie Jean or Prince sing Purple Rain or Whitney sing I will Always Love You ever again!


Making the song your own and changing up the melody is one thing, but when you are obviously having trouble hitting notes that you onced hit with ease, that is a totally different story. You saw and heard what we all, on this website saw with our own eyes....She was terrible.
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Reply #122 posted 04/27/10 12:01pm

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PDogz said:

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WOW! eek disbelief eek Poor Thing! (...she must crack herself to sleep at night thinking back on what she once had...)


...fixed!
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Reply #123 posted 04/27/10 1:35pm

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I don't buy that lol What about all the Prince fans that turned up to the One Night Alone tour wanting to hear Purple Rain? Were they wrong to be disappointed, are they entitled to a refund because they didn't get exactly what they wanted? I think not. Artists put on a show and if you're not feeling it then don't support that artist anymore, it's that simple. Personally if I see an artist live it means I like them enough to let them put on whatever show they want, maybe it will live up to my expectations or maybe it won't, but that this notion that by paying for a ticket they must give you what you want is juvenille.


Unlike Whitney, Prince was not smoking crack. While Whitney is a great singer, her voice really shines through on songs that she is able to go full out on. What allot of people don't seem to realize is what Whitney did, was very selfish. By doing drugs, she robbed everyone around her of ever hearing those songs, sung in the way that only Whitney can. Prince can always come back and sing "Purple Rain" and it will STILL sound great. Judging from what has been posted so far, Whitney may never be able to sing those songs, as only she can, ever again.


An ability to sing it again at a later concert doesn't make it any difference to you whilst you're there at the show with your £200 ticket. Yes, doing drugs is a selfish way to live, people DO realise that but that *is* addiction. Just because she can sing doesn't make her any less infallible then than anyone else. She has a right to try and make a living, former addict or not. If people don't like what she's doing then don't go! Concerts are optional, even if you are a fan.
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Reply #124 posted 04/27/10 1:38pm

Timmy84

because I wouldn't care if I never heard Whitney sing I will Always Love You ever again


Tell Whitney that. lol
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Reply #125 posted 04/27/10 1:51pm

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Timmy84 said:

because I wouldn't care if I never heard Whitney sing I will Always Love You ever again


Tell Whitney that. lol


She wore that song out. I can't take it any more!
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Reply #126 posted 04/27/10 1:56pm

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AshK said:

shorttrini said:



Unlike Whitney, Prince was not smoking crack. While Whitney is a great singer, her voice really shines through on songs that she is able to go full out on. What allot of people don't seem to realize is what Whitney did, was very selfish. By doing drugs, she robbed everyone around her of ever hearing those songs, sung in the way that only Whitney can. Prince can always come back and sing "Purple Rain" and it will STILL sound great. Judging from what has been posted so far, Whitney may never be able to sing those songs, as only she can, ever again.


An ability to sing it again at a later concert doesn't make it any difference to you whilst you're there at the show with your £200 ticket. Yes, doing drugs is a selfish way to live, people DO realise that but that *is* addiction. Just because she can sing doesn't make her any less infallible then than anyone else. She has a right to try and make a living, former addict or not. If people don't like what she's doing then don't go! Concerts are optional, even if you are a fan.


and if you are a fan, you expect that person to give their very best, especially for that price. Her ability to sing DOES not make her any less infallible, you are correct. But, it is because she sings better than most, is the reason why I hold her to a higher standard than anybody else.
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Reply #127 posted 04/27/10 2:09pm

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Tell Whitney that. lol


She wore that song out. I can't take it any more!


Girl was croaking through that motherfucker. lol
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Reply #128 posted 04/27/10 2:18pm

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WOW! eek disbelief eek Poor Thing! (...she must crack herself to sleep at night thinking back on what she once had...)


...fixed!

lol ...I'm thinking that might be the case, sadly. And that pipe is telling her... "Go on out there and SANG Girl!". And Whitney leaves the stage thinking... "Yeah, I just ROCKED that shit! They LOVED me!"
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Reply #129 posted 04/27/10 2:21pm

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shorttrini said:

AshK said:



An ability to sing it again at a later concert doesn't make it any difference to you whilst you're there at the show with your £200 ticket. Yes, doing drugs is a selfish way to live, people DO realise that but that *is* addiction. Just because she can sing doesn't make her any less infallible then than anyone else. She has a right to try and make a living, former addict or not. If people don't like what she's doing then don't go! Concerts are optional, even if you are a fan.


and if you are a fan, you expect that person to give their very best, especially for that price. Her ability to sing DOES not make her any less infallible, you are correct. But, it is because she sings better than most, is the reason why I hold her to a higher standard than anybody else.


As a fan you should realise your expectations of her are unfair; I think Whitney is out there giving her best to her current ability, and that's all you can ask from any performer.
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Reply #130 posted 04/27/10 2:25pm

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Well blame her management company. The so-called greatest singer of her generation can't even sing any of her classics out of a high school auditorium anymore.

Either that or she needs to fix the way the songs are done or just don't do them at all.

I don't know how long she can go on praying God she gets her "God-given" voice back. It wasn't like when Marvin started his final tour all raspy and croaky until the last month and a half of it or whenever his voice gave out on him. And it's hard to compare Whitney to Prince, two different performers entirely.

Just saying.
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Reply #131 posted 04/27/10 2:26pm

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...fixed!

lol ...I'm thinking that might be the case, sadly. And that pipe is telling her... "Go on out there and SANG Girl!". And Whitney leaves the stage thinking... "Yeah, I just ROCKED that shit! They LOVED me!"


lol Like Richard Pryor's crack pipe telling him he loved him. lol
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Reply #132 posted 04/27/10 2:34pm

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Reply #133 posted 04/27/10 2:38pm

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Well blame her management company. The so-called greatest singer of her generation can't even sing any of her classics out of a high school auditorium anymore.

Either that or she needs to fix the way the songs are done or just don't do them at all.

I don't know how long she can go on praying God she gets her "God-given" voice back. It wasn't like when Marvin started his final tour all raspy and croaky until the last month and a half of it or whenever his voice gave out on him. And it's hard to compare Whitney to Prince, two different performers entirely.

Just saying.


It's not like I'm comparing The Bodygaurd and Purple Rain lol. I'm comparing the actual concert experience, the fans, disappointment etc.
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Reply #134 posted 04/27/10 2:56pm

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lol ...I'm thinking that might be the case, sadly. And that pipe is telling her... "Go on out there and SANG Girl!". And Whitney leaves the stage thinking... "Yeah, I just ROCKED that shit! They LOVED me!"


lol Like Richard Pryor's crack pipe telling him he loved him. lol

giggle Oh wow! I forgot about that, lol. yeahthat Richard took control of his whole situation by making better jokes about himself than anyone else could come up with. I think people may be less forgiving of Whitney because she seems to be in such denial.
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Reply #135 posted 04/27/10 3:15pm

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Timmy84 said:

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She wore that song out. I can't take it any more!


Girl was croaking through that motherfucker. lol


And it sounded like they already lowered the key a few steps for her, too shake
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Reply #136 posted 04/27/10 3:28pm

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Timmy84 said:



Girl was croaking through that motherfucker. lol


And it sounded like they already lowered the key a few steps for her, too shake


Yeah and when she got to the "...AND I" part, she forgot the key altogether before realizing it, she went from, what is it, B flat to G major? I forget. lol
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Reply #137 posted 04/27/10 3:55pm

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lol Like Richard Pryor's crack pipe telling him he loved him. lol

giggle Oh wow! I forgot about that, lol. yeahthat Richard took control of his whole situation by making better jokes about himself than anyone else could come up with. I think people may be less forgiving of Whitney because she seems to be in such denial.


People gave Richard a pass because he was a badass and drugs were expected coming from him. People expect drugs from known badasses like Rick James and damn near all rock and heavy metal bands.

What makes it so funny with Shitney, is that she was the little goodie goodie, pom pom cheerleader, black valley girl, barbie doll, sweet little wholesome, apple pie baking, goodie two shoes. When a goodie two shoes gets involved in drugs, it's as funny as a Republican getting caught sucking dicks in a public men's room. lol
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Reply #138 posted 04/27/10 4:32pm

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AshK said:

shorttrini said:



and if you are a fan, you expect that person to give their very best, especially for that price. Her ability to sing DOES not make her any less infallible, you are correct. But, it is because she sings better than most, is the reason why I hold her to a higher standard than anybody else.


As a fan you should realise your expectations of her are unfair; I think Whitney is out there giving her best to her current ability, and that's all you can ask from any performer.


As a fan, I expect to get my money's worth. An artist of Whitney's caliber should be able to give 100% every night,(she would tell you that herself), so I don't think that my expectations are unfair. Timmy is correct, when he says that her management is to blame. They are exploiting her for the sake of their pockets.
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Reply #139 posted 04/27/10 4:41pm

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Some of her delusional fans are still insisting that there were parts of this current tour where she has sounded fantastic! However, they are unable to provide me any evidence that it's actually happened. How strange. lol
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Reply #140 posted 04/27/10 4:53pm

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What makes it so funny with Shitney, is that she was the little goodie goodie, pom pom cheerleader, black valley girl, barbie doll, sweet little wholesome, apple pie baking, goodie two shoes.

Ooooh, I so NEVER bought into THAT one, lol. I hear what you're saying though. nod

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...it's as funny as a Republican getting caught sucking dicks in a public men's room. lol

boxed ...and he's STILL denying THAT one, lol.
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Reply #141 posted 04/27/10 6:04pm

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Timmy84 said:

NDRU said:



And it sounded like they already lowered the key a few steps for her, too shake


Yeah and when she got to the "...AND I" part, she forgot the key altogether before realizing it, she went from, what is it, B flat to G major? I forget. lol


On the record the song goes from A major to B major.

On this version it went from Q to K.
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Reply #142 posted 04/27/10 6:09pm

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Timmy84 said:



Yeah and when she got to the "...AND I" part, she forgot the key altogether before realizing it, she went from, what is it, B flat to G major? I forget. lol


On the record the song goes from A major to B major.

On this version it went from Q to K.


lol
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Reply #143 posted 04/27/10 6:11pm

Timmy84

Oh I think I know what it was initially:

It started on D major, then her note was at B flat, but the music went to G major. lol
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Reply #144 posted 04/27/10 6:26pm

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Oh I think I know what it was initially:

It started on D major, then her note was at B flat, but the music went to G major. lol


Some very sophisticated jazz is being sung here. We'll understand it in years to come.
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Reply #145 posted 04/27/10 6:27pm

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Timmy84 said:

Oh I think I know what it was initially:

It started on D major, then her note was at B flat, but the music went to G major. lol


Some very sophisticated jazz is being sung here. We'll understand it in years to come.


Mmhmm it's some sophisticated jazz alright. lol
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Reply #146 posted 04/27/10 8:38pm

Timmy84

Whitney struggles to hit high note

Tuesday, 27 April 2010

Whitney Houston struggled to hit the high notes in the second of her London gigs.

The diva, who once topped the charts with her impressive vocals, had to pause as she attempted to reach the top notes during her classic ballad I Will Always Love You, before turning to her keyboardist and asking him to lower it an octave at the concert at the O2 Arena.

But the 46-year-old - who is recovering from a respiratory infection which forced her to cancel the first three UK dates - managed it and received applause from the crowds, who supported her throughout her performance, as she held the note.

"I love you all, thank you London," she gushed in return.

Whitney's second London show, part of her Nothing But Love world comeback tour, turned out to be a family affair. Mum Cissy was watching her daughter from the audience and brother Gary sang during her first costume change, but it was 17-year-old daughter Bobbi who got rapturous cheers when she took the mic for My Love Is Your Love.

Whitney, who has battled troubles with substance abuse, admitted her vocal problems at her previous London show, where she told the audience: "She doesn't want to come, my soprano friend. Sometimes the old girl sings, but not tonight."

It is her first tour in the UK since 1999.
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Reply #147 posted 04/27/10 9:20pm

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Man, I know when a star falls, they fall hard...but to continue to add fuel to the fire is just nuts! neutral
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Reply #148 posted 04/27/10 11:27pm

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YIKES @ 3:50! eek

faint


faint

I would not get up and sing Karaoke if my voice was flat as that. How can she stand up in front of all those THOUSANDS of people and sound that off??

Such a sad sad turn of events... I sound better singing this song in my shower than Whitney Houston!

I guess Dolly should claim her song back... once again she sings it best. sad
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Reply #149 posted 04/27/10 11:33pm

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Whitney should embrace who she is now and sing really well with her new voice instead of trying to summon the old voice.

Give herself some realness, let go of the fantasy.


This might be her best strategy going forward,if she even decides to tour again.She'll have to concentrate on the songs that she can still sing,and leave out the big,showy numbers like "I Will Always Love You".Embrace her 'new' voice.



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I also blame whoever is producing/arranging the songs for her tour.

I have gone to see Prince and heard him sing Little Red Corvette. The song was arranged so differently that it took awhile before I recognized this WELL recognized song. It was great to hear it so differently. Made me appreciate Prince's talent so much more.

If Whitney could sing her songs in such a while... slow it down if it was a dance song or jazz up I will always love you the way Jill Scott alters her hits would work for Whitney embracing her new voice.
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