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Reply #510 posted 04/30/10 3:56pm

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I believe MJ is still around...in spirit.

I wanted to share a few things with the orgers who aren't
my Facebook friends. As some of you know, my little film
crew in Kansas City are putting together a MJ tribute short-film
project. Anyway, I stayed up really late the night before our shoot,
just working out different shots and things like that..anyway
That night I was about to go to bed but noticed there was a rainbow
on my script for the shoot later today.






Another thing that happened today as I'm editing the project,
I was about to take a break and stop in the middle of it, without
accomplishing all the editing I planned to today, when something
happened. I was literally about to get up, when my computer randomly
started playing "Man In The Mirror" and that familiar opening of the song
came on, and it gave me chills. For a minute, it didn't click with me
where it was coming from. Needless to say, I kept working on it after
that. Only stopped to take a break to post this. Anyway. Back to editing.
[Edited 4/30/10 12:00pm]
[Edited 4/30/10 12:01pm]


Awesome! That was definately a sign. Keep up the good work!
[Edited 4/30/10 15:57pm]
"Get up off that grey line"
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Reply #511 posted 04/30/10 3:57pm

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Timmy84 said:



I forgot it was on tonight.

I just finished watching it,,,,,damn sad

I had no interest in watching that , I don't watch anymore specials on him.
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Reply #512 posted 04/30/10 4:17pm

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babybugz said:

bboy87 said:


I just finished watching it,,,,,damn sad

I had no interest in watching that , I don't watch anymore specials on him.

This one is different though....
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #513 posted 04/30/10 4:18pm

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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #514 posted 04/30/10 4:24pm

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Reply #515 posted 04/30/10 4:32pm

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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #516 posted 04/30/10 4:42pm

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seeingvoices12 said:



Jay, should I watch this? Is it good?

yes...yes you should


SO SO SO SO SO SO Good.
Watched all parts of it on YouTube this afternoon.
GO AJ!
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Reply #517 posted 04/30/10 5:27pm

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I just finished watching it…WTF sigh sigh sigh

Why? Why they did all this to him? I just don’t understand.sigh

It was a good documentary but it made me very sad , And mad sigh
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Reply #518 posted 04/30/10 5:30pm

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Who were the other celebrities that refuse to collaborate? And pretended that they loved him when he is gone?

The bitch Lisa or who? confuse
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Reply #519 posted 04/30/10 6:10pm

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Who were the other celebrities that refuse to collaborate? And pretended that they loved him when he is gone?

The bitch Lisa or who? confuse

Bruce Swedien
I assume maybe Brooke Shields, Quincy Jones..
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #520 posted 04/30/10 7:01pm

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bboy87 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

Who were the other celebrities that refuse to collaborate? And pretended that they loved him when he is gone?

The bitch Lisa or who? confuse

Bruce Swedien
I assume maybe Brooke Shields, Quincy Jones..

Wut happened with Bruce? eek

Is he the one that said he wasnt sure MJ did it or not or somethin like that? I dont see wuts wrong wit dat, I mean if he wasnt sure, then he wasnt sure. They had a professional relationship is all, he shouldnt vouch for somethin he wasnt sure about. shrug

... and i heard somethin about Stevie refusin to duet on Invincible or some shit like that. confused
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Reply #521 posted 04/30/10 7:26pm

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A bit too one-sided for my taste. This Aphrodite chick seems to be in love with MJ or somethin. She played it cool on TV, but I'VE seen her blog. disbelief

I'm waitin for somethin OBJECTIVE. He's either an angel or a predator. Can we find some middle ground please? Nobody is sayin to invite Diane Diamond and the like, but instead of just makin him the victim 100% of the time they also need to highlight his irresponsible actions that could easily have been avoided. I cant take the blame off of him, he was an adult, and he walked right into these situations. Ppl r evil, and bein in the business for so long, MJ shoulda known dat damn well. MJ knew those kids had parents, he wasnt just dealin with innocent kids, he was dealin with adults. After 1993, he shoulda changed his behavior, but obviously, his ego and stubborness did not allow it, and look at the big mess he got himself into. It took his goddamn life, for wut? Some sleepovers with 13 YO hispanic boys? Was it really worth it?

sigh

All this is useless anyway. Uless Jordy comes forward, hes not off the hook. thats the ONLY way his name will be cleared. Otherwise, it will always be hangin over his name, his legacy is forever tainted. Its a damn shame.
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Reply #522 posted 04/30/10 8:40pm

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sleepyq said:

bboy87 said:


Bruce Swedien
I assume maybe Brooke Shields, Quincy Jones..

Wut happened with Bruce? eek

Is he the one that said he wasnt sure MJ did it or not or somethin like that? I dont see wuts wrong wit dat, I mean if he wasnt sure, then he wasnt sure. They had a professional relationship is all, he shouldnt vouch for somethin he wasnt sure about. shrug

... and i heard somethin about Stevie refusin to duet on Invincible or some shit like that. confused

I don't know all about Stevie refusing to duet with Michael on Invincible. I didn't know they worked on something in 1998-2001

Bruce and Quincy both said Michael was like a son to them but when the allegations hit, then they went with the "professional relationship"
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #523 posted 04/30/10 8:41pm

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bboy87 said:


A bit too one-sided for my taste. This Aphrodite chick seems to be in love with MJ or somethin. She played it cool on TV, but I'VE seen her blog. disbelief

I'm waitin for somethin OBJECTIVE. He's either an angel or a predator. Can we find some middle ground please? Nobody is sayin to invite Diane Diamond and the like, but instead of just makin him the victim 100% of the time they also need to highlight his irresponsible actions that could easily have been avoided. I cant take the blame off of him, he was an adult, and he walked right into these situations. Ppl r evil, and bein in the business for so long, MJ shoulda known dat damn well. MJ knew those kids had parents, he wasnt just dealin with innocent kids, he was dealin with adults. After 1993, he shoulda changed his behavior, but obviously, his ego and stubborness did not allow it, and look at the big mess he got himself into. It took his goddamn life, for wut? Some sleepovers with 13 YO hispanic boys? Was it really worth it?

sigh

All this is useless anyway. Uless Jordy comes forward, hes not off the hook. thats the ONLY way his name will be cleared. Otherwise, it will always be hangin over his name, his legacy is forever tainted. Its a damn shame.


But hasn't it all been one sided for the past 17 years? I understand what you're saying and I agree to an extent but still....
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #524 posted 04/30/10 9:10pm

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Vanilli said:

I believe MJ is still around...in spirit.

I wanted to share a few things with the orgers who aren't
my Facebook friends. As some of you know, my little film
crew in Kansas City are putting together a MJ tribute short-film
project. Anyway, I stayed up really late the night before our shoot,
just working out different shots and things like that..anyway
That night I was about to go to bed but noticed there was a rainbow
on my script for the shoot later today.




Another thing that happened today as I'm editing the project,
I was about to take a break and stop in the middle of it, without
accomplishing all the editing I planned to today, when something
happened. I was literally about to get up, when my computer randomly
started playing "Man In The Mirror" and that familiar opening of the song
came on, and it gave me chills. For a minute, it didn't click with me
where it was coming from. Needless to say, I kept working on it after
that. Only stopped to take a break to post this. Anyway. Back to editing.
[Edited 4/30/10 12:00pm]
[Edited 4/30/10 12:01pm]


I believe this as well. hug

I watched the Aphrodite Jones True Crime show Thursday. This was a positive thing. I miss Michael A lot lately..

neutral
[Edited 4/30/10 21:14pm]
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Reply #525 posted 04/30/10 9:11pm

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Seriously Michael deserves the media to be so one-sided in his favor, that he would literally be brought back from the dead because of all the love the media owes him. The media was just as responsible for killing him, as they were for making him a superstar. A double edged sword yes, but, to say, "It comes with being the biggest selling artist of all time..." That is a cop out and bullshit.

If I wished for one thing for Michael's legacy besides his kids living lives that would make him proud, its that more people like AJ are willing to admit how fucked they were. That is the least they could do it. Sure, it won't bring him back, but it is a start. If you have mud on your face, you shouldn't just go about life and pretend it isn't there. You should apoligize, admit you were wrong, as she did.

I'm so glad her book came out during Michael's lifetime. I hope he
knew about it.
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Reply #526 posted 04/30/10 9:16pm

tangerine7

^^^ I wondered if Michael *did know of her book> I'd like to think that he did.
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Reply #527 posted 04/30/10 10:16pm

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Didn't know if you guys knew about this contest on YouTube. AweSome Artist - Musicain of Month. I voted. Michael Jackson got #1.
CONTEST IS CLOSED. THE WINNER IS @michaeljackson WITH 15552 VOTES





Michael Jackson is YouTubes Artist of the Month!! Thanks to everyone who voted to have MJ on top. Just sending some positive light out.

http://tweeter.faxo.com/T...an/2010/04
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Reply #528 posted 04/30/10 10:47pm

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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #529 posted 04/30/10 11:04pm

tangerine7

Is it just me or has everyone been kinda missing Michael this past week a bit more?
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Reply #530 posted 04/30/10 11:26pm

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Is it just me or has everyone been kinda missing Michael this past week a bit more?

I have been missing him a lot lately.

I´ve just finished wathing the Aphrodite documentary and I am pissed at all the Bashits, Arvizos and Chandlers. It just got all that anger back to me and I am sking myself why this couldn´t have been aired when he was alive?


"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #531 posted 04/30/10 11:31pm

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^^ I know..right. I know how you are feeling,for sure. I hope atleast that the general public has been seeing this some what 'poistive' light on Michael. I also wish that they(like MSNBC) would stop airing that dang Bashir doc. I don't get why on earth they still* air that crap. Also I wish that the Larry Nimmer doc. would start to air on TV. I just gotta think like this that Michael knew that he was loved by those that stood by and for him when he was here..you know? hug to you.

Edit:
Love the pictures.
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Reply #532 posted 04/30/10 11:37pm

dag

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^^ I know..right. I know how you are feeling,for sure. I hope atleast that the general public has been seeing this some what 'poistive' light on Michael. I also wish that they(like MSNBC) would stop airing that dang Bashir doc. I don't get why on earth they still* air that crap. Also I wish that the Larry Nimmer doc. would start to air on TV. I just gotta think like this that Michael knew that he was loved by those that stood by and for him when he was here..you know? hug to you.

Edit:
Love the pictures.
[Edited 4/30/10 23:32pm]

hug to you, too.
See all that positivity now after his death makes me so mad as well knowing how much he suffered when he was alive just because of all that stupid BS. I wish Mike got to experience that some people were actually trying to understand the truth. See, last week I saw a kid trying moonwalk in my class and hear them play Thriller in another while when he was alive and I played Thriller to them their responces were "sick child-molester" and "when his nose is gonna fall off" laughing as if it was funny and they knew what they were talking about. I wish Mike got to see the new generation getting interested in him and loving his music and trying his dance-steps again. I only got to see that after his death which is so sad to me.

sad
[Edited 4/30/10 23:44pm]
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #533 posted 05/01/10 12:06am

tangerine7

dag said:

tangerine7 said:

^^ I know..right. I know how you are feeling,for sure. I hope atleast that the general public has been seeing this some what 'poistive' light on Michael. I also wish that they(like MSNBC) would stop airing that dang Bashir doc. I don't get why on earth they still* air that crap. Also I wish that the Larry Nimmer doc. would start to air on TV. I just gotta think like this that Michael knew that he was loved by those that stood by and for him when he was here..you know? hug to you.

Edit:
Love the pictures.
[Edited 4/30/10 23:32pm]

hug to you, too.
See all that positivity now after his death makes me so mad as well knowing how much he suffered when he was alive just because of all that stupid BS. I wish Mike got to experience that some people were actually trying to understand the truth. See, last week I saw a kid trying moonwalk in my class and hear them play Thriller in another while when he was alive and I played Thriller to them their responces were "sick child-molester" and "when his nose is gonna fall off" laughing as if it was funny and they knew what they were talking about. I wish Mike got to see the new generation getting interested in him and loving his music and trying his dance-steps again. I only got to see that after his death which is so sad to me.

sad
[Edited 4/30/10 23:44pm]


Oh i understand where you're coming from. Yeah I've seen this same stuff from others..and I'm not trying to be a saint over those,but heck No one should have made those sick jokes about him without really looking into what MJ was about.
I remember a guy I have known since grade school would make sick jokes about MJ all the time and he seemed to really get off on it..I would look at him and try to understand how it was so dang funny? I'd roll my eyes and walk away. Not everyone is like that about MJ. 2 Bad for them,you know..
I am hoping that the case that those younger dancer for This Is It ..that they proved to Michael in an extra way that a whole generation was really loving him discovering him..I mean no matter how we feel about the doc. of TII.. when Michael was singing I'll Be There..Those younger kids was really into him and he saw that.. His face lite up. That was real..So I believe he knew. Michael was smart like that..He sometime could see into things coming ahead,you know?..That's how I think about that. But yeah..there's a side of me as you..that still wishes that he could have wittnessed all the love now. I just have to believe that somehow he can see it..afterall on that day last year..he stop the whole world..the whole wide world stopped...and everyone danced,sang,cried,shouted,laughed & loved.. Michael did that.. He's One of The Greats..A Legend. Always has been one Always will be.
Sry..I fumble for words.



[Edited 5/1/10 0:16am]
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Reply #534 posted 05/01/10 3:23am

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A bit too one-sided for my taste. This Aphrodite chick seems to be in love with MJ or somethin. She played it cool on TV, but I'VE seen her blog. disbelief

I'm waitin for somethin OBJECTIVE. He's either an angel or a predator. Can we find some middle ground please? Nobody is sayin to invite Diane Diamond and the like, but instead of just makin him the victim 100% of the time they also need to highlight his irresponsible actions that could easily have been avoided. I cant take the blame off of him, he was an adult, and he walked right into these situations. Ppl r evil, and bein in the business for so long, MJ shoulda known dat damn well. MJ knew those kids had parents, he wasnt just dealin with innocent kids, he was dealin with adults. After 1993, he shoulda changed his behavior, but obviously, his ego and stubborness did not allow it, and look at the big mess he got himself into. It took his goddamn life, for wut? Some sleepovers with 13 YO hispanic boys? Was it really worth it?

sigh

All this is useless anyway. Uless Jordy comes forward, hes not off the hook. thats the ONLY way his name will be cleared. Otherwise, it will always be hangin over his name, his legacy is forever tainted. Its a damn shame.


Are you trying so hard to be an objective fan rolleyes

This is what MJ needed when he was alive, we have seen negative prgrams about him all the time and it was more than enough, And not when all these freaking TV programs about him are negative and biased as hell, they are not objective so why should Aphrodite Jones highlight the negativity and his irresponsible actions rolleyes we’ve has seen enough , MJ was Innocent and they killed him , May he rest in peace.
MICHAEL JACKSON
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Reply #535 posted 05/01/10 3:28am

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bboy87 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

Who were the other celebrities that refuse to collaborate? And pretended that they loved him when he is gone?

The bitch Lisa or who? confuse

Bruce Swedien
I assume maybe Brooke Shields, Quincy Jones..



Bruce ? WTF eek

Brooke ‘s acting at the memorial was outstanding , she should have been nominated for an oscar
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Reply #536 posted 05/01/10 8:48am

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dag said:


hug to you, too.
See all that positivity now after his death makes me so mad as well knowing how much he suffered when he was alive just because of all that stupid BS. I wish Mike got to experience that some people were actually trying to understand the truth. See, last week I saw a kid trying moonwalk in my class and hear them play Thriller in another while when he was alive and I played Thriller to them their responces were "sick child-molester" and "when his nose is gonna fall off" laughing as if it was funny and they knew what they were talking about. I wish Mike got to see the new generation getting interested in him and loving his music and trying his dance-steps again. I only got to see that after his death which is so sad to me.

sad
[Edited 4/30/10 23:44pm]


Oh i understand where you're coming from. Yeah I've seen this same stuff from others..and I'm not trying to be a saint over those,but heck No one should have made those sick jokes about him without really looking into what MJ was about.
I remember a guy I have known since grade school would make sick jokes about MJ all the time and he seemed to really get off on it..I would look at him and try to understand how it was so dang funny? I'd roll my eyes and walk away. Not everyone is like that about MJ. 2 Bad for them,you know..
I am hoping that the case that those younger dancer for This Is It ..that they proved to Michael in an extra way that a whole generation was really loving him discovering him..I mean no matter how we feel about the doc. of TII.. when Michael was singing I'll Be There..Those younger kids was really into him and he saw that.. His face lite up. That was real..So I believe he knew. Michael was smart like that..He sometime could see into things coming ahead,you know?..That's how I think about that. But yeah..there's a side of me as you..that still wishes that he could have wittnessed all the love now. I just have to believe that somehow he can see it..afterall on that day last year..he stop the whole world..the whole wide world stopped...and everyone danced,sang,cried,shouted,laughed & loved.. Michael did that.. He's One of The Greats..A Legend. Always has been one Always will be.
Sry..I fumble for words.



[Edited 5/1/10 0:16am]

I think that apart from making money, he wanted to do TII because he wanted to feel loved again and to show his kids who´s the king, of course.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #537 posted 05/01/10 9:02am

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Isn't this the cutest? biggrin
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Reply #538 posted 05/01/10 10:46am

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sleepyq said:

bboy87 said:


A bit too one-sided for my taste. This Aphrodite chick seems to be in love with MJ or somethin. She played it cool on TV, but I'VE seen her blog. disbelief

I'm waitin for somethin OBJECTIVE. He's either an angel or a predator. Can we find some middle ground please? Nobody is sayin to invite Diane Diamond and the like, but instead of just makin him the victim 100% of the time they also need to highlight his irresponsible actions that could easily have been avoided. I cant take the blame off of him, he was an adult, and he walked right into these situations. Ppl r evil, and bein in the business for so long, MJ shoulda known dat damn well. MJ knew those kids had parents, he wasnt just dealin with innocent kids, he was dealin with adults. After 1993, he shoulda changed his behavior, but obviously, his ego and stubborness did not allow it, and look at the big mess he got himself into. It took his goddamn life, for wut? Some sleepovers with 13 YO hispanic boys? Was it really worth it?

sigh

All this is useless anyway. Uless Jordy comes forward, hes not off the hook. thats the ONLY way his name will be cleared. Otherwise, it will always be hangin over his name, his legacy is forever tainted. Its a damn shame.

lol

I agree with what you said. MJ should have known better and have a tougher fist not only when it came to "13 YO hispanic boys", but also when it came to slanderous "news",tabloid crap, Poppa Joe and Good Ol' Randy Jackson, plastic surgery and so on. But his IQ doesn't seem to have been normal, does it? Well, nothing is normal when we're talking about MJ anyway.
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Reply #539 posted 05/01/10 11:03am

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MOL said:

sleepyq said:


A bit too one-sided for my taste. This Aphrodite chick seems to be in love with MJ or somethin. She played it cool on TV, but I'VE seen her blog. disbelief

I'm waitin for somethin OBJECTIVE. He's either an angel or a predator. Can we find some middle ground please? Nobody is sayin to invite Diane Diamond and the like, but instead of just makin him the victim 100% of the time they also need to highlight his irresponsible actions that could easily have been avoided. I cant take the blame off of him, he was an adult, and he walked right into these situations. Ppl r evil, and bein in the business for so long, MJ shoulda known dat damn well. MJ knew those kids had parents, he wasnt just dealin with innocent kids, he was dealin with adults. After 1993, he shoulda changed his behavior, but obviously, his ego and stubborness did not allow it, and look at the big mess he got himself into. It took his goddamn life, for wut? Some sleepovers with 13 YO hispanic boys? Was it really worth it?

sigh

All this is useless anyway. Uless Jordy comes forward, hes not off the hook. thats the ONLY way his name will be cleared. Otherwise, it will always be hangin over his name, his legacy is forever tainted. Its a damn shame.

lol

I agree with what you said. MJ should have known better and have a tougher fist not only when it came to "13 YO hispanic boys", but also when it came to slanderous "news",tabloid crap, Poppa Joe and Good Ol' Randy Jackson, plastic surgery and so on. But his IQ doesn't seem to have been normal, does it? Well, nothing is normal when we're talking about MJ anyway.
[Edited 5/1/10 10:51am]

You're talking as if he was stupid neutral
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