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MADONNA: Greatest Hits, New Tracks, & Summer Tour continued - Round 4 Thread continued.....
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first!
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so is Dress You Up on it or not?
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xlr8r said: so is Dress You Up on it or not?
It's on there. | |
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SoulAlive said: xlr8r said: so is Dress You Up on it or not?
It's on there.  good thing I cook or else we'd starve to death...aint that a shame? | |
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"Burning Up" better stay! "I'm a lover, not a haitcher"- Pandurito
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Moonbeam said: "Burning Up" better stay!
"Dress You Up" is in this one minute commercial, so I think it's a keeper. [Edited 8/23/09 19:08pm] |
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Some songs and videos Madonna likely won't be having a celebration with...
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Not sure if this was already posted on the other thread,but apparently,this is the confirmed tracklist for the single disc:
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Who's ready to "Celebrate" with Madonna? Her new video premieres on September 1st.Come join the party!
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SoulAlive said: Not sure if this was already posted on the other thread,but apparently,this is the confirmed tracklist for the single disc:
Hung Up Music Vogue 4 Minutes Holiday Like A Virgin Into The Groove Like A Prayer Ray Of Light La Isla Bonita Frozen Material Girl Papa Don't Preach Lucky Star Express Yourself Open Your Heart Dress You Up Celebration  It's okay I guess,but it's shocking that they are leaving off "Live To Tell" and "Take A Bow".This tracklist just proves how absurb it is to release a single-disc Madonna greatest hits set.This CD is leaving off singles that actually went to Number One  "Dress You Up", "La Isla Bonita" and especially "4 Minutes" seem like strange songs to include over the likes of "Crazy for You" and "Live to Tell". I guess she wants it to be completely uptempo. "I'm a lover, not a haitcher"- Pandurito
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Moonbeam said: SoulAlive said: Not sure if this was already posted on the other thread,but apparently,this is the confirmed tracklist for the single disc:
Hung Up Music Vogue 4 Minutes Holiday Like A Virgin Into The Groove Like A Prayer Ray Of Light La Isla Bonita Frozen Material Girl Papa Don't Preach Lucky Star Express Yourself Open Your Heart Dress You Up Celebration It's okay I guess,but it's shocking that they are leaving off "Live To Tell" and "Take A Bow".This tracklist just proves how absurb it is to release a single-disc Madonna greatest hits set.This CD is leaving off singles that actually went to Number One "Dress You Up", "La Isla Bonita" and especially "4 Minutes" seem like strange songs to include over the likes of "Crazy for You" and "Live to Tell". I guess she wants it to be completely uptempo. yeah,and I guess that's okay.Casual fans will love this disc,especially since it contains most of her biggest 80s hits. | |
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Moonbeam said: SoulAlive said: Not sure if this was already posted on the other thread,but apparently,this is the confirmed tracklist for the single disc:
Hung Up Music Vogue 4 Minutes Holiday Like A Virgin Into The Groove Like A Prayer Ray Of Light La Isla Bonita Frozen Material Girl Papa Don't Preach Lucky Star Express Yourself Open Your Heart Dress You Up Celebration It's okay I guess,but it's shocking that they are leaving off "Live To Tell" and "Take A Bow".This tracklist just proves how absurb it is to release a single-disc Madonna greatest hits set.This CD is leaving off singles that actually went to Number One "Dress You Up", "La Isla Bonita" and especially "4 Minutes" seem like strange songs to include over the likes of "Crazy for You" and "Live to Tell". I guess she wants it to be completely uptempo. Awful tracklisting. No coherence in its order or selection. Lucky Star & Dress You Up over Crazy For You, Live To Tell, Secret, Justify My Love, Take A Bow. This whole project is simply proving annoying to me now. | |
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CrozzaUK said: Moonbeam said: "Dress You Up", "La Isla Bonita" and especially "4 Minutes" seem like strange songs to include over the likes of "Crazy for You" and "Live to Tell". I guess she wants it to be completely uptempo. Awful tracklisting. No coherence in its order or selection. Lucky Star & Dress You Up over Crazy For You, Live To Tell, Secret, Justify My Love, Take A Bow. This whole project is simply proving annoying to me now. lol,that's why I said it's absurd to even attempt to compile a one-disc greatest hits set.There's just no way to include the biggest hits on one CD.I wouldn't dream of leaving off "Live To Tell" or "Take A Bow" (her most successful single ever). | |
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I think it's more shocking how the 3 #1 ballad hits are left out of the single disc, she's clearly being pushed as a dance artist now...
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SoulAlive said: Not sure if this was already posted on the other thread,but apparently,this is the confirmed tracklist for the single disc:
Hung Up Music Vogue 4 Minutes Holiday Like A Virgin Into The Groove Like A Prayer Ray Of Light La Isla Bonita Frozen Material Girl Papa Don't Preach Lucky Star Express Yourself Open Your Heart Dress You Up Celebration It's okay I guess,but it's shocking that they are leaving off "Live To Tell" and "Take A Bow".This tracklist just proves how absurb it is to release a single-disc Madonna greatest hits set.This CD is leaving off singles that actually went to Number One That looks suspicious. 3 "Like A Virgin" tracks (including one that has never appeared on any sets), 3 "True Blue" tracks except for the number one single and a favorite "Live To Tell". No "Erotica" or "Bedtime Stories" tracks (Thank God....wouldn't want to remind people of the early to mid nineties!). Also, I would be very surprised if "Revolver" (or whatever the second song/single is) doesn't appear on the single disc. I know the practice of the one disc/two disc sets has been done but I'm trying to think if in any cases they split up previously unreleased songs. [Edited 8/24/09 7:55am] |
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LiveToTell86 said: I think it's more shocking how the 3 #1 ballad hits are left out of the single disc, she's clearly being pushed as a dance artist now...
CrozzaUK, I didn't have a chance to respond to you in the previous thread, so doing it now: I understand you hold Erotica highly because it was your first full Madonna era, but that's a pattern I noticed, most fans who love Erotica to death have the same experience as you and many of them always go "it was so uncool to love Madonna in that era but I just got into her/was holding on". I wasn't a fan back then, so the project almost does nothing for me, apart from a couple of songs and 2 videos. I think its sound is incredibly dated and it was practically Madonna not being able to move on from a formula she mastered in 1990. Also, the re-evaluation of Erotica is kind of an exaggerated myth, it's true some publications later on admitted they never even reviewed the music itself, but it's not hard to see it never became a belated critics' darling, and even though fans disagree, her first 4 albums are her best regarded ones (plus ROL of course). And yes, I know that Slant Mag article, but they regularly revisit some albums, and they actually did the same with AL and it was almost as positive as the Erotica one (not hard to guess they were both written by the same person and by a huge fan). So I don't see a problem with having only 1 Erotica track on the GH. It has nothing to do with Madonna liking that album or not, it's one of her least relevant eras in terms of commercial success and by putting the title track on it they are at least throwing the Erotica fans a bone because something like "Rain" would have been a much safer choice and would not have represented the overall feel of the era. I know it's not fair for the fans, but I don't find it fair how AL was bashed and how Madonna's non-lead off singles barely got attention these days, we can't do much about that and Warner just has to go with the flow and find the balance. I think the 2 disc GH tracklist is a very nice representation of her career and an Evita song is the only thing missing, really. I only really become a Madonna fan right before the "Bedtime Stories" era. I got a CD player for Christmas '93 and the first Madonna album I bought was "Like A Prayer". Than I started to buy the new albums as they come out. I don't remember all that much about "Erotica" except seeing some of the videos occasionally on MTV. It's not that I have such fondess for that era. I have such fondness for the music and the art. "Hard Candy" and "American Life" IMHO are not up to snuff in comparison and the second singles chosen for them didn't perform as well (I don't even think "Die Another Day" was the great shakes). It's just absurd and is typical Madonna. It's a great album and frankly for it to have one single represented is just Madonna rewriting her past. Honestly, it was a bit off that GVH2 only gave us two singles! "Evita" I understand a bit more. There weren't any smashes (at least not in the US) and it was really a side project that took her away from pop recording for a while. It's almost easy to forget if she didn't remind us every so often by bringing those songs back on her tours. |
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The 1 disc album is alright.
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SoulAlive said: Not sure if this was already posted on the other thread,but apparently,this is the confirmed tracklist for the single disc:
Hung Up Music Vogue 4 Minutes Holiday Like A Virgin Into The Groove Like A Prayer Ray Of Light La Isla Bonita Frozen Material Girl Papa Don't Preach Lucky Star Express Yourself Open Your Heart Dress You Up Celebration It's okay I guess,but it's shocking that they are leaving off "Live To Tell" and "Take A Bow".This tracklist just proves how absurb it is to release a single-disc Madonna greatest hits set.This CD is leaving off singles that actually went to Number One just bring them on already!! 
they know some of us are going to picking up multiple copies anyway. i hope they all have different covers.  and i agree with you about leaving off "Live To Tell" and "Take A Bow"  | |
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but not such a bad single disc. for the casual fan anyway. | |
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VinnyM27 said: LiveToTell86 said: I think it's more shocking how the 3 #1 ballad hits are left out of the single disc, she's clearly being pushed as a dance artist now...
CrozzaUK, I didn't have a chance to respond to you in the previous thread, so doing it now: I understand you hold Erotica highly because it was your first full Madonna era, but that's a pattern I noticed, most fans who love Erotica to death have the same experience as you and many of them always go "it was so uncool to love Madonna in that era but I just got into her/was holding on". I wasn't a fan back then, so the project almost does nothing for me, apart from a couple of songs and 2 videos. I think its sound is incredibly dated and it was practically Madonna not being able to move on from a formula she mastered in 1990. Also, the re-evaluation of Erotica is kind of an exaggerated myth, it's true some publications later on admitted they never even reviewed the music itself, but it's not hard to see it never became a belated critics' darling, and even though fans disagree, her first 4 albums are her best regarded ones (plus ROL of course). And yes, I know that Slant Mag article, but they regularly revisit some albums, and they actually did the same with AL and it was almost as positive as the Erotica one (not hard to guess they were both written by the same person and by a huge fan). So I don't see a problem with having only 1 Erotica track on the GH. It has nothing to do with Madonna liking that album or not, it's one of her least relevant eras in terms of commercial success and by putting the title track on it they are at least throwing the Erotica fans a bone because something like "Rain" would have been a much safer choice and would not have represented the overall feel of the era. I know it's not fair for the fans, but I don't find it fair how AL was bashed and how Madonna's non-lead off singles barely got attention these days, we can't do much about that and Warner just has to go with the flow and find the balance. I think the 2 disc GH tracklist is a very nice representation of her career and an Evita song is the only thing missing, really. I only really become a Madonna fan right before the "Bedtime Stories" era. I got a CD player for Christmas '93 and the first Madonna album I bought was "Like A Prayer". Than I started to buy the new albums as they come out. I don't remember all that much about "Erotica" except seeing some of the videos occasionally on MTV. It's not that I have such fondess for that era. I have such fondness for the music and the art. "Hard Candy" and "American Life" IMHO are not up to snuff in comparison and the second singles chosen for them didn't perform as well (I don't even think "Die Another Day" was the great shakes). It's just absurd and is typical Madonna. It's a great album and frankly for it to have one single represented is just Madonna rewriting her past. Honestly, it was a bit off that GVH2 only gave us two singles! "Evita" I understand a bit more. There weren't any smashes (at least not in the US) and it was really a side project that took her away from pop recording for a while. It's almost easy to forget if she didn't remind us every so often by bringing those songs back on her tours. I do agree that Erotica is still pretty much ignored by most critics (at least the poorly informed ones), and it is also probably true that only a select set of fans identify with Erotica the most - for whatever reason. I think my problem with it being so under-represented on this set is that she put so much effort into it at the time. All the videos, photo shoots, promo spots - she really gave this record her all in terms of creativity and effort - and thats why it feels like a significant era to me. I remember upon the release of GHV2, a lot of critics cited both Deeper & Deeper, and Secret as being two gems from her 'forgotten' period. Secret has stood the test of time amazingly, and i agree Sheps house beats do sound dated, but that house sound is coming back around again so i dont think it would turn people off too much. | |
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CrozzaUK said: Moonbeam said: "Dress You Up", "La Isla Bonita" and especially "4 Minutes" seem like strange songs to include over the likes of "Crazy for You" and "Live to Tell". I guess she wants it to be completely uptempo. Awful tracklisting. No coherence in its order or selection. Lucky Star & Dress You Up over Crazy For You, Live To Tell, Secret, Justify My Love, Take A Bow. This whole project is simply proving annoying to me now. Well, maybe they'll do something a la Prince The Hits. Cd 1, Cd 2 separately, and a Box set with 3 CD'S, what, I think, would work out perfectly well. Hoping so "I WANT THE GOOD LIFE, BUT I DON'T WANT AN EASY RIDE..." madonna | |
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looking at that supposed single-disc tracklist, I'm thinking that perhaps the best thing to have done was to have 3 different single-disc compilations (a ballads, a pop, a dance -- or 80's, 90's, 00's -- or however you want to divide it) called "Celebration", each with 1 new track and 17 hits per disc.
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errant said: looking at that supposed single-disc tracklist, I'm thinking that perhaps the best thing to have done was to have 3 different single-disc compilations (a ballads, a pop, a dance -- or 80's, 90's, 00's -- or however you want to divide it) called "Celebration", each with 1 new track and 17 hits per disc.
and then sell them together as a collected edition around the holidays. seems like the best way to cover all the ground, let the casual purchaser pick & choose what they wanted and give the hardcore fans something collectible and thorough. of course you still have the problem of selecting which versions to go on, but then if they'd put some more (as in any) thought and effort into the project, we wouldn't be having that conversation at all. the lazy hodge-podge nature of the tracks/versions they've picked is what is the major problem. what a waste all around. only for hardcore fans Jesus still loves you if you get divorce just not as much as before
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SoulAlive said: Who's ready to "Celebrate" with Madonna? Her new video premieres on September 1st.Come join the party!
 Based on this .gif her look is very Gaga.. even though she preceded her, the similarities are there. "The same freedom you feel, is what's been blowing in my sail, since I arrived here." | |
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Tortilla said: SoulAlive said: Who's ready to "Celebrate" with Madonna? Her new video premieres on September 1st.Come join the party!
Based on this .gif her look is very Gaga.. even though she preceded her, the similarities are there. that is this season's D&G Jesus still loves you if you get divorce just not as much as before
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the dress is by the designer BALMAIN | |
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CHIC0 said: the dress is by the designer BALMAIN
 well look at you  you don't call you don't text but you have to go around and correct me Jesus still loves you if you get divorce just not as much as before
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such a waste | |
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TRON said: such a waste
Agreed. It should have been at least 3 discs. Let's hope the DVD is worth it. Here's my attempt at a 3-disc comp, including everything that's going to be on there (although with different versions where appropriate) and stuff that's missing. I went with 18 songs per disc as they are doing, although I'm sure we could squeeze another 4-5 songs on there. Pop: 1 Borderline 2 Like a Virgin 3 Material Girl 4 Papa Don't Preach 5 True Blue 6 La Isla Bonita 7 Who's That Girl 8 Like a Prayer 9 Cherish 10 Secret 11 Beautiful Stranger 12 Don't Tell Me 13 What It Feels Like for a Girl 14 Die Another Day 15 Hollywood 16 Jump 17 4 Minutes 18 Revolver Dance: 1 Everybody 2 Burning Up 3 Holiday 4 Lucky Star 5 Angel 6 Into the Groove 7 Dress You Up 8 Gambler 9 Open Your Heart 10 Causing a Commotion 11 Express Yourself 12 Vogue 13 Deeper and Deeper 14 Ray of Light 15 Music 16 Hung Up 17 Sorry 18 Celebration Ballads: 1 Crazy for You 2 Live to Tell 3 The Look of Love 4 Oh Father 5 Justify My Love 6 Erotica 7 This Used to Be My Playground 8 Bad Girl 9 Rain 10 I'll Remember 11 Take a Bow 12 You'll See 13 You Must Love Me 14 Frozen 15 The Power of Goodbye 16 Substitute for Love 17 Nothing Fails 18 Miles Away "I'm a lover, not a haitcher"- Pandurito
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