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Reply #150 posted 07/17/09 7:20am

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musicjunky318 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

I think it would be easier to rank them seperatley than as a whole.

Singing
1. Michael
2. Jermaine
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3. Jackie
4. Randy
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5. Marlon
6. Tito


Writing
1. Michael
2. Randy
3. Jermaine
4. Jackie
5. Tito
6. Marlon


Production
1. Michael
2. Jermaine
3. Marlon
4. Jackie
5. Tito
6. Randy (only cause we don't really know what he produced seperatley)


Janet
Rebbie
LaToya


Cool idea, let me try to break em down this way.

Singing

(Brothers)
1. Michael (His work speaks for himself. One of the best vocalist of all time.)
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2. Jermaine (Incredible though it was hard to see with MJ being in the group.)

3. Randy (Check out "One More Chance" & "Can You Feel It.") Very decent singer.
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4. Jackie (Right below average. He can carry a tune though.)
5. Marlon (Singing was never his strong suit.)
6. Tito (Terrible, terrible singer.)

(Sisters)
1. Janet
2. Rebbie
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3. Latoya (Fucking horrible.)

Writing
1. Michael (A masterful writer, incredibly versatile)
2. Randy (2nd only to Michael. A very, very underrated writer w/ several gems)
3. Janet
4. Jermaine
5. Tito (Check out "We Can Change the World" off the Victory album)
6. Jackie
7. Marlon
8. Rebbie
9. Latoya
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[Edited 7/13/09 14:00pm]


I love Janet and I do believe she can sing, but Rebbie is a better vocalist than Jan.
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Reply #151 posted 07/17/09 7:48am

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trueiopian said:

If we're talking overall talent Janet is number one. But musically- Jermaine comes in first, MJ second, Randy third, etc.


Are you serious? I'm a Janet fan and I find it comical that you would say Janet has more talent than Michael had. Janet could never hold her own vocally against Michaeal, nor is she a better dancer!
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Reply #152 posted 07/17/09 8:09am

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VoicesCarry said:



You didn't understand what I was saying. Most Janet fans, and I mean the hardcore ones, love Michael even more than they love Janet. Most Janet fans are fans of both artists.

Yeah that is so true, that describes me.
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Reply #153 posted 07/17/09 8:19am

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trueiopian said:

If we're talking overall talent Janet is number one. But musically- Jermaine comes in first, MJ second, Randy third, etc.


Are you serious? I'm a Janet fan and I find it comical that you would say Janet has more talent than Michael had. Janet could never hold her own vocally against Michaeal, nor is she a better dancer!


I didn't say her abilities are higher then MJ's! That's just all opinion we would be going in circles trying to say who's the better dancer or singer. We all have different opinions. IMO- They both are in a league of their own in dancing. Janet is by far the stronger dancer though. Singing- They both have different styles. Janet is the most talented one in the family as in she has more qualities then the rest of them.
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Reply #154 posted 07/17/09 8:30am

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1. Michael Jackson (Obviously)
2. Janet Jackson
3. Jermaine Jackson
4. Randy Jackson
5. Marlon Jackson
6. Tito Jackson
7. Jackie Jackson
8. Rebbie Jackson
9. Latoya Jackson (I do love her though, she is my third favorite jackson)
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Reply #155 posted 07/17/09 8:36am

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trueiopian said:

pynkcashmere said:



Are you serious? I'm a Janet fan and I find it comical that you would say Janet has more talent than Michael had. Janet could never hold her own vocally against Michaeal, nor is she a better dancer!


I didn't say her abilities are higher then MJ's! That's just all opinion we would be going in circles trying to say who's the better dancer or singer. We all have different opinions. IMO- They both are in a league of their own in dancing. Janet is by far the stronger dancer though. Singing- They both have different styles. Janet is the most talented one in the family as in she has more qualities then the rest of them.


Janet is not the stronger dancer and Michael's vocal talent alone would trump any talent Janet has. Again, I'm a Janet fan. Let's agree to disagree.
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Reply #156 posted 07/17/09 8:38am

trueiopian

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trueiopian said:



I didn't say her abilities are higher then MJ's! That's just all opinion we would be going in circles trying to say who's the better dancer or singer. We all have different opinions. IMO- They both are in a league of their own in dancing. Janet is by far the stronger dancer though. Singing- They both have different styles. Janet is the most talented one in the family as in she has more qualities then the rest of them.


Janet is not the stronger dancer and Michael's vocal talent alone would trump any talent Janet has. Again, I'm a Janet fan. Let's agree to disagree.


You should re-read what I wrote above lol
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Reply #157 posted 07/17/09 8:51am

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trueiopian said:

pynkcashmere said:



Are you serious? I'm a Janet fan and I find it comical that you would say Janet has more talent than Michael had. Janet could never hold her own vocally against Michaeal, nor is she a better dancer!


I didn't say her abilities are higher then MJ's! That's just all opinion we would be going in circles trying to say who's the better dancer or singer. We all have different opinions. IMO- They both are in a league of their own in dancing. Janet is by far the stronger dancer though. Singing- They both have different styles. Janet is the most talented one in the family as in she has more qualities then the rest of them.



I really have disagree here. Michael was a natural born talent, he had a natural rhythm to him, where they others especially Janet, Latoya and Marlon had to work extra hard to get to the same level as Michael. What has helped Janet is not only the Jackson name, but the fans that she has attained because of it. If you call her ability to whisper through every song, like she has done on every album since, the "Janet" album, talent, then all I have to say is, WOW!!
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Reply #158 posted 07/17/09 8:58am

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shorttrini said:

trueiopian said:



I didn't say her abilities are higher then MJ's! That's just all opinion we would be going in circles trying to say who's the better dancer or singer. We all have different opinions. IMO- They both are in a league of their own in dancing. Janet is by far the stronger dancer though. Singing- They both have different styles. Janet is the most talented one in the family as in she has more qualities then the rest of them.



I really have disagree here. Michael was a natural born talent, he had a natural rhythm to him, where they others especially Janet, Latoya and Marlon had to work extra hard to get to the same level as Michael. What has helped Janet is not only the Jackson name, but the fans that she has attained because of it. If you call her ability to whisper through every song, like she has done on every album since, the "Janet" album, talent, then all I have to say is, WOW!!


Are you saying Janet doesn't have natural talent? neutral Ok, Latoya shouldn't even be mentioned. She's just the black sheep of the family. Marlon is decent. MJ said that he struggled getting the steps and etc. during the J5 days. But from many accounts Janet is a natural talent like MJ. And Janet doesn't whisper confused And again with the last name shit! If that were the case what happenend to Jermaine's career, or how about Latoya's, Rebbie?

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Reply #159 posted 07/17/09 9:12am

midiscover

trueiopian said:

shorttrini said:




I really have disagree here. Michael was a natural born talent, he had a natural rhythm to him, where they others especially Janet, Latoya and Marlon had to work extra hard to get to the same level as Michael. What has helped Janet is not only the Jackson name, but the fans that she has attained because of it. If you call her ability to whisper through every song, like she has done on every album since, the "Janet" album, talent, then all I have to say is, WOW!!


Are you saying Janet doesn't have natural talent? neutral Ok, Latoya shouldn't even be mentioned. She's just the black sheep of the family. Marlon is decent. MJ said that he struggled getting the steps and etc. during the J5 days. But from many accounts Janet is a natural talent like MJ. And Janet doesn't whisper confused And again with the last name shit! If that were the case what happenend to Jermaine's career, or how about Latoya's, Rebbie?

beatdeadhorse


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I don't understand why these people are trying to down play Janet's talent. She's cleary the most talented one in the family and more of an artist then anyone of them will ever be!
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Reply #160 posted 07/17/09 9:19am

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shorttrini said:

trueiopian said:



I didn't say her abilities are higher then MJ's! That's just all opinion we would be going in circles trying to say who's the better dancer or singer. We all have different opinions. IMO- They both are in a league of their own in dancing. Janet is by far the stronger dancer though. Singing- They both have different styles. Janet is the most talented one in the family as in she has more qualities then the rest of them.



I really have disagree here. Michael was a natural born talent, he had a natural rhythm to him, where they others especially Janet, Latoya and Marlon had to work extra hard to get to the same level as Michael. What has helped Janet is not only the Jackson name, but the fans that she has attained because of it. If you call her ability to whisper through every song, like she has done on every album since, the "Janet" album, talent, then all I have to say is, WOW!!


Janet is a natural talent! Hello! She started acting at like 7 years old and she even said so herself that acting and music comes naturally for her. She learned the whole choregraphy for the "So Excited" video in just minutes right before the video was shot! Her influence on music and dance speaks for it self!
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Reply #161 posted 07/17/09 9:31am

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midiscover said:

shorttrini said:




I really have disagree here. Michael was a natural born talent, he had a natural rhythm to him, where they others especially Janet, Latoya and Marlon had to work extra hard to get to the same level as Michael. What has helped Janet is not only the Jackson name, but the fans that she has attained because of it. If you call her ability to whisper through every song, like she has done on every album since, the "Janet" album, talent, then all I have to say is, WOW!!


Janet is a natural talent! Hello! She started acting at like 7 years old and she even said so herself that acting and music comes naturally for her. She learned the whole choregraphy for the "So Excited" video in just minutes right before the video was shot! Her influence on music and dance speaks for it self!


The question was rank the Jackson siblings in order of talent. You placed Janet above MJ. Natural talent means from birth. Michael has been on stage since about 4 years of age, he came out singing...You just said that she started around 7 years of age, that's a three year difference. Her saying that acting and singing has come naturally to her, is NOT saying anything. Anybody can say anything....especially when it comes to themselves. I have nothing against Janet, I have seen her 4 times in concert. She is an excellent entertainer, as far as performer goes, I would place her right behind, Michael.
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Reply #162 posted 07/17/09 9:36am

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shorttrini said:

midiscover said:



Janet is a natural talent! Hello! She started acting at like 7 years old and she even said so herself that acting and music comes naturally for her. She learned the whole choregraphy for the "So Excited" video in just minutes right before the video was shot! Her influence on music and dance speaks for it self!


The question was rank the Jackson siblings in order of talent. You placed Janet above MJ. Natural talent means from birth. Michael has been on stage since about 4 years of age, he came out singing...You just said that she started around 7 years of age, that's a three year difference. Her saying that acting and singing has come naturally to her, is NOT saying anything. Anybody can say anything....especially when it comes to themselves. I have nothing against Janet, I have seen her 4 times in concert. She is an excellent entertainer, as far as performer goes, I would place her right behind, Michael.


falloff "That's 3 year difference"
Boo hoo! She recorded her first song at 5 years old, Started writing songs at 9 and started playing the piano at 6! and I don't think Janet would just say things! She was asked in a interview about acting and she said it comes naturally as music does! and other people say she's a natural! What she projects through her music and entertainment doesn't come from practice hun! That's a natural talent!
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Reply #163 posted 07/17/09 9:42am

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I knew you were going to come in here! smile
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Reply #164 posted 07/17/09 10:00am

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falloff

I knew you were going to come in here! smile


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Reply #165 posted 07/17/09 11:30am

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Michael
Jermaine
Randy
Janet
Tito
Jackie
Rebbie
Marlon
LaToya
Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart
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Reply #166 posted 07/17/09 2:55pm

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midiscover said:

shorttrini said:



The question was rank the Jackson siblings in order of talent. You placed Janet above MJ. Natural talent means from birth. Michael has been on stage since about 4 years of age, he came out singing...You just said that she started around 7 years of age, that's a three year difference. Her saying that acting and singing has come naturally to her, is NOT saying anything. Anybody can say anything....especially when it comes to themselves. I have nothing against Janet, I have seen her 4 times in concert. She is an excellent entertainer, as far as performer goes, I would place her right behind, Michael.


falloff "That's 3 year difference"
Boo hoo! She recorded her first song at 5 years old, Started writing songs at 9 and started playing the piano at 6! and I don't think Janet would just say things! She was asked in a interview about acting and she said it comes naturally as music does! and other people say she's a natural! What she projects through her music and entertainment doesn't come from practice hun! That's a natural talent!


Michael is the true talent in that family...anyone can see that. This is why Joseph acted the way he did where he was concerned. He was the family's cash cow. Janet while talented, does not have half the talent that M.J. had. It was her opinion and in her best interest that she say that it came naturally to her. What was she going to say, being the sister of M.J.? I have seen them both in concert, many times, and while Michael continued to get better, Janet didn't.
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Reply #167 posted 07/17/09 3:21pm

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shorttrini said:

midiscover said:



falloff "That's 3 year difference"
Boo hoo! She recorded her first song at 5 years old, Started writing songs at 9 and started playing the piano at 6! and I don't think Janet would just say things! She was asked in a interview about acting and she said it comes naturally as music does! and other people say she's a natural! What she projects through her music and entertainment doesn't come from practice hun! That's a natural talent!


Michael is the true talent in that family...anyone can see that. This is why Joseph acted the way he did where he was concerned. He was the family's cash cow. Janet while talented, does not have half the talent that M.J. had. It was her opinion and in her best interest that she say that it came naturally to her. What was she going to say, being the sister of M.J.? I have seen them both in concert, many times, and while Michael continued to get better, Janet didn't.

Thank you for this.
I have been telling them this, they told me that I have something against her and an obsessed MJ fan disbelief, the irony is that I have the majority of her records...I love janet.

On the org only you see these kind of absurd comaparsions, who in their right mind would say that Janet is more talented than MJ? I mean , thats absurd, if anyone prefers her music over MJ then thats musical taste and they have the right to do it,but they need to stop saying that she is more talented than him disbelief MJ was a child prodigy, his talents since the age of 5 speak for themselves.
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Reply #168 posted 07/17/09 3:38pm

midiscover

shorttrini said:

midiscover said:



falloff "That's 3 year difference"
Boo hoo! She recorded her first song at 5 years old, Started writing songs at 9 and started playing the piano at 6! and I don't think Janet would just say things! She was asked in a interview about acting and she said it comes naturally as music does! and other people say she's a natural! What she projects through her music and entertainment doesn't come from practice hun! That's a natural talent!


Michael is the true talent in that family...anyone can see that. This is why Joseph acted the way he did where he was concerned. He was the family's cash cow. Janet while talented, does not have half the talent that M.J. had. It was her opinion and in her best interest that she say that it came naturally to her. What was she going to say, being the sister of M.J.? I have seen them both in concert, many times, and while Michael continued to get better, Janet didn't.


Janet is a growing artist where as MJ never grew as one. She's the most talented one in the family and her natural talent is evident. I don't understand why you would think she isn't. I'm guessing your just one of those people that see her as a non-talented bimbo that is riding the coattails of her brothers lol Yea, dream on! She's more of an artist then MJ could ever be! and my assumption is that you're confused by the term "natural talent". For instance creativity is a natural talent and in reality, talent can only carry you so far, the rest is hard work. The two are not mutually exclusive. Janet started off her career with Control (excluding her first 2 albums in which didn't even want to do). She wrote and co-produced every track, mind you this was like her debut album. And you're telling me she's not naturally talented .... falloff
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Reply #169 posted 07/17/09 3:59pm

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I think it is hard to rank them because their strenghts are in different fields. Apart from MJ who was no doubt the most talented I am just going to post examples of each sibling's strenghts.

Jermaine - good instrumentalist (very good bass player) and a good vocalist in the style of Marvin Gaye



Tito - good blues musician and guitarist


Jackie - good songwriter



Marlon - good performer and dancer


Randy - good songwriter and multi-instrumentalist



Janet - great performer and dancer


Rebbie - good singer


La Toya - nice body
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Reply #170 posted 07/17/09 5:08pm

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I think people are entitled to the opinion that Janet is more talented than MJ, but let's be honest here: Michael was a stunning singer and dancer blessed with raw talent in both areas from the time he was a child. I can't say the same for Janet who isn't a terrible singer per se (like LaToya) but can't do much outside of the "ability to carry a tune and sound pretty doing it" realm (whereas Michael is miles beyond that). Also, take away the choreography and what can Janet do as far as dancing goes? I'm not saying it DOESN'T take talent/skill to learn choreography and then bust out those ever-choreographed moves the way she does, but does she have her own rhythm and distinguished style when you take out the choreographers out of the room (like MJ)?

And then there's songwriting... feel free to prove me wrong (because I just might be) but has Janet ever written/composed a song entirely by herself? Even if she has, I doubt she could ever write/compose anything as masterful as "Billie Jean", "Stranger in Moscow", "Who Is It", "That's What You Get...", and a shitload more.

The one talent Janet DOES possess over MJ is acting. Mikey was never much of an actor ("LEAVE ME ALONE I'M TIRED O' YOU MESSIN' WITH ME, STAHPIT!" lol ).
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Reply #171 posted 07/17/09 5:31pm

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shorttrini said:



Michael is the true talent in that family...anyone can see that. This is why Joseph acted the way he did where he was concerned. He was the family's cash cow. Janet while talented, does not have half the talent that M.J. had. It was her opinion and in her best interest that she say that it came naturally to her. What was she going to say, being the sister of M.J.? I have seen them both in concert, many times, and while Michael continued to get better, Janet didn't.


Janet is a growing artist where as MJ never grew as one. She's the most talented one in the family and her natural talent is evident. I don't understand why you would think she isn't. I'm guessing your just one of those people that see her as a non-talented bimbo that is riding the coattails of her brothers lol Yea, dream on! She's more of an artist then MJ could ever be! and my assumption is that you're confused by the term "natural talent". For instance creativity is a natural talent and in reality, talent can only carry you so far, the rest is hard work. The two are not mutually exclusive. Janet started off her career with Control (excluding her first 2 albums in which didn't even want to do). She wrote and co-produced every track, mind you this was like her debut album. And you're telling me she's not naturally talented .... falloff
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Janet grew as an artist? I could look at that from two ways, she went from singing in full voice to whispering on all of her recordings after the "Janet" CD. Unlike Michael, who has delved into many different styles of music since the the begining, as the main artist and as a backup singer, Janet's style has basically stated the same, thanks to Jimmy & Terry.
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Reply #172 posted 07/17/09 6:57pm

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midiscover said:



Janet is a growing artist where as MJ never grew as one. She's the most talented one in the family and her natural talent is evident. I don't understand why you would think she isn't. I'm guessing your just one of those people that see her as a non-talented bimbo that is riding the coattails of her brothers lol Yea, dream on! She's more of an artist then MJ could ever be! and my assumption is that you're confused by the term "natural talent". For instance creativity is a natural talent and in reality, talent can only carry you so far, the rest is hard work. The two are not mutually exclusive. Janet started off her career with Control (excluding her first 2 albums in which didn't even want to do). She wrote and co-produced every track, mind you this was like her debut album. And you're telling me she's not naturally talented .... falloff
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Janet grew as an artist? I could look at that from two ways, she went from singing in full voice to whispering on all of her recordings after the "Janet" CD. Unlike Michael, who has delved into many different styles of music since the the begining, as the main artist and as a backup singer, Janet's style has basically stated the same, thanks to Jimmy & Terry.


Yea, we get it! You don't like her rolleyes
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Reply #173 posted 07/17/09 7:52pm

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trueiopian said:

shorttrini said:



Janet grew as an artist? I could look at that from two ways, she went from singing in full voice to whispering on all of her recordings after the "Janet" CD. Unlike Michael, who has delved into many different styles of music since the the begining, as the main artist and as a backup singer, Janet's style has basically stated the same, thanks to Jimmy & Terry.


Yea, we get it! You don't like her rolleyes


No, I do like her. Like I said, I have been to most of concerts and have most of her CD's; but to say that she is more talented that her brother I just don't agree with. It seems as though, fans of Janet take that to the exteme. Janet can do no wrong. Whereas, I will be the first to say that M.J. has made mistakes, some of the songs on "Invicible", being a few. There is a certain level of disparigy between the two.
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Reply #174 posted 07/17/09 8:05pm

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shorttrini said:

midiscover said:



Janet is a growing artist where as MJ never grew as one. She's the most talented one in the family and her natural talent is evident. I don't understand why you would think she isn't. I'm guessing your just one of those people that see her as a non-talented bimbo that is riding the coattails of her brothers lol Yea, dream on! She's more of an artist then MJ could ever be! and my assumption is that you're confused by the term "natural talent". For instance creativity is a natural talent and in reality, talent can only carry you so far, the rest is hard work. The two are not mutually exclusive. Janet started off her career with Control (excluding her first 2 albums in which didn't even want to do). She wrote and co-produced every track, mind you this was like her debut album. And you're telling me she's not naturally talented .... falloff
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Janet grew as an artist? I could look at that from two ways, she went from singing in full voice to whispering on all of her recordings after the "Janet" CD. Unlike Michael, who has delved into many different styles of music since the the begining, as the main artist and as a backup singer, Janet's style has basically stated the same, thanks to Jimmy & Terry.


I said she grew as an ARTIST! Everyone declines vocally as they age. What you may think is "good singing" maybe different to others. I personally don't find belters appealing. MJ chased popularity where as Janet actually made music that's art. She did things that other pop artists weren't doing. You're just refusing to accept that MJ isn't the only talented Jackson in the family and Janet is by far the most talented on. Can MJ act? No. Tell me something that MJ can do that Janet can't? I'll wait batting eyes
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Reply #175 posted 07/18/09 4:48am

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oh janet is obviously very cool but she is not even the second best jackson
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Reply #176 posted 07/18/09 5:08am

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Michael is the only talented guy IMO, I've never cared about the brothers or Janet...

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Reply #177 posted 07/18/09 10:15am

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Shorttrini, I think these guys are just pulling your leg - I don't believe for a moment that there is ANYONE who actually believes that Janet is a greater talent than Michael. There isn't a serious discussion to be had there.

Janet's voice is ok, her dancing absolutely fine but nothing exceptional, and very few of her songs have had worldwide lasting appeal (and I was under the impression that Jam&Lewis were the driving force behind most of her music? - much more than Quincy Jones with MJ)

Michael's voice was distinctive and flexible. His dancing - well, he's probably the greatest influence on today's dancers. All the professional dancers I know cite MJ as one of the reasons they got into dancing in the first place. Janet would never get a mention.
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Reply #178 posted 07/18/09 10:37am

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trueiopian said:

If we're talking overall talent Janet is number one. But musically- Jermaine comes in first, MJ second, Randy third, etc.


Are you serious? I'm a Janet fan and I find it comical that you would say Janet has more talent than Michael had. Janet could never hold her own vocally against Michaeal, nor is she a better dancer!



Yeah,this thread is absurd lol Michael was the most talented person in that family.Janet doesn't even come close.
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Reply #179 posted 07/18/09 10:50am

leecaldon

Shorttrini, I think these guys are just pulling your leg - I don't believe for a moment that there is ANYONE who actually believes that Janet is a greater talent than Michael. There isn't a serious discussion to be had there.

Janet's voice is ok, her dancing absolutely fine but nothing exceptional, and very few of her songs have had worldwide lasting appeal (and I was under the impression that Jam&Lewis were the driving force behind most of her music? - much more than Quincy Jones with MJ)

Michael's voice was distinctive and flexible. His dancing - well, he's probably the greatest influence on today's dancers. All the professional dancers I know cite MJ as one of the reasons they got into dancing in the first place. Janet would never get a mention.
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