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Reply #1110 posted 07/12/09 2:34am

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For Blackguitaristz...I remember too. cool


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Reply #1111 posted 07/12/09 2:44am

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i love these commercials




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The Fawn in the Burning Forest: Our Beloved Monster

[9 July 2009]
Unlike John Lennon’s clumsy attempts to appear working class or
Mick Jagger’s incessant chauvinist posturing, Michael Jackson had no strong desire to be “authentic” or “real”.
By Timothy Gabriele



“He’s sort of like a fawn in a burning forest”
—Steven Spielberg, on the late Michael Jackson.

It should be no shock at this point to say that Michael Jackson lived a double life. Even early in his life, the future member of the musical royal family was aware of the divide between himself and the living rooms of America.

As young Michael, he was the voice of pure joy for a nation struggling to find happiness amidst the chaos of the Civil Rights and Vietnam era, perhaps a safe black face to broadcast out to a world becoming increasingly panicked by the revolutionary momentum of the counterculture. Behind closed doors, he was the victim of both physical and emotional torture at the hands of his father, Joseph Jackson, a figure so perniciously careerist that he recently used his son’s death as a marketing tool to promote his record label. As Michael grew up, the divide between the man in the mirror and the man on stage continued to widen further and further until the moment when the bubble burst and he became the biggest-selling pop star of all time. At this point, neither the personal nor the public Michael Jackson belonged to the flesh and blood Michael Jackson any more. He was now a part of mass culture, a part of the public consciousness subject to all of our most deluded perceptions and projections. He was a new kind of star, the kind for which buying an album became like being a shareholder. We all owned stock in Jackson, Inc.

For people born when I was (1981), there is no relatable world without Michael Jackson. He was literally there at the start of my memories. And though I never purchased any of his music until I discovered the cosmic splendor of Off the Wall in college, he was a part of the first two pieces of music I ever owned. Seven-inch records of “Weird Al” Yankovich’s “Eat It”, a parody of Jackson’s “Beat It”, and USA for Africa’s “We Are the World”, the all-star fundraiser record written by Jackson and Lionel Ritchie, used to sit in my toy trunk amidst plastic records babies could chew on like “Twinkle Twinkle Little Star” and flexi-discs plucked from my older brother’s MAD Magazine stash. I never questioned why they were there. They were like air, accepted and thereby trusted—an inevitability.

As Greil Marcus’s essential writings on Jacksonism in Lipstick Traces noted, Thriller came about as if it were an inevitability too. And the Michael Jackson world post-Thriller was likewise pop culture as fact of life. Whether you liked it or not, you had to acknowledge it. When he was in the news, MJ was on the tip of everybody’s tongue. It was dumb luck on our part that much of the music happened to be phenomenal, because it didn’t have to be.

I imagine these past few weeks were a bit like what it felt like to be alive in 1984. Michael Jackson was again ubiquitous. He was on every television set, seeping out of every car radio passing down the street, in the backdrop of every conversation. The world was in love again. We had forgiven Jackson for betraying us, and were now proving our devotion the only way we knew how: by spending exorbitant amounts of cash.

The whole rotten exchange stunk. It was as if a murderer had crashed the funeral of one his victims and turned it into a fiesta. In the end, our anointed king of capitalism was broke, in debt, forced to go on tour (the grimly named This Is It tour, practically a death knell unto itself), plagued by lupus and alopecia, anorexic, addicted to prescription pills, possibly suicidal, and haunted by voice troubles. He was the butt end of every hack comedian’s ire, a broken and fractured shell of a man. Jackson may have been a weirdo creep pervert, but he had gotten a pretty shit bargain for surrendering his identity for the greater good of the church of the dollar. Now, after having sucked every ounce of life out of the man, here was the American public, stumbling down the streets like a drunken vampire ready to fuck the corpse.

Unfortunately for Michael, his biological father was not the only abusive paternal figure that he would encounter in his life. He was host to a lifetime’s worthy of parasitic relationships with substitute fathers who would eventually turn him into the golden goose of their avaricious and exploitative yearnings, and subsequently shit down his platinum throat whenever the abrasion of living life in this ridiculous fashion began to show.

A lonely child who was never quite alone, surrounded as he was by a gaggle of siblings, insatiable fans, and omnivorous music biz vermin, Michael Jackson self-described himself as a lost boy, a la Peter Pan. Like one of the orphaned swashbucklers from J.M. Barrie’s infamous tomes on childhood, Jackson was able to live out all his fantasies and create an adventure narrative that pre-prescribed himself as the victor (as his 1984 “Victory” tour would make apparent). However, this luxury of Disney-esque fantasy-making was not elicited in Jackson’s life through the manifestation of absolute freedom. The rock n’ roll ideal in a pre-Jackson world, total freedom was a countercultural challenge posed to the American dream. To be free, as the hippies envisioned it, was to remove oneself from the unreality of systemic logic, which prescribed one’s social role based on a set of mostly arbitrary codes and dogmas.

Jackson’s fantasies never involved this kind of rebellion, nor were they prone to acknowledge the falseness the American dream. To subvert paradigms as close to the hegemonous architecture of the control superstructure as Jackson often was would involve ruffling a few tail feathers. And Michael wanted far too much for every one to love him, as his father didn’t, to do anything but appease his sponsors and puppeteers. Michael Jackson was able to live out his wildest dreams with the help of cold hard capital, blurring the lines between Michael Jackson the musician, Michael Jackson the product, Michael Jackson the event, and Michael Jackson the spectacle. The money didn’t exactly set him free as Reagan’s American dream had promised, but it did set him loose.

Years later, he would engage the Peter Pan myth further with Neverland ranch, a grotesquely puerile spectacle of capitalist excess and celebrity entitlement that morphed in the public’s eye into more of an anthropomorphic dungeon of shattered innocence than the fountain of youth Jackson had envisioned. By that time, the double life had split and re-replicated itself into so many elusive doppelganger Michael Jacksons that you were never quite sure which one you were seeing at any given time. Jackson’s dream had turned and his latent anxieties of being crushed by the simulacrum were beginning to manifest themselves in new, creepy ways. The media, led by feckless tabloid bully Martin Bashir, started to imagine a new narrative, more pied piper than Peter Pan, the psychotic pop predator luring the children who buy his albums to his lair to seduce and rape them. Never mind that the two lawsuits brought against Jackson were entirely baseless, dreamt up by a series of parents so negligent and opportunist that they made Joseph Jackson look like Phil Huxtable. I mean, Jackson seemed capable of doing those horrendous things, right?

In hindsight, Jackson’s biography more resembled a different myth, that of Frankenstar, the hideous beast of our dysfunctional molding whom we shamed for his monstrosity. His visage by the time of the child molestation allegations was so disfigured that it was barely recognizable, his iconographic face having become a battleground for both the struggle against illness (his vitiligo) and surrender to it (his persistent body dysmorphic disorder). Beyond the superficiality of his experimental face, the new flesh that came from living deep within the videodrome, presciently reflecting the thick layers between the über-celebrity reality and actual, Michael Jackson was Frankenstein’s monster because he was a life created entirely by American public consciousness, vivified by the fawning falseness of Reagan’s sociohistogenic “Morning in America” schema, an eruption of commodity fetishization and careful image manipulation substituting for democracy.

Unlike John Lennon’s clumsy attempts to appear working class, or Mick Jagger’s incessant chauvinist posturing, Michael Jackson had no strong desire to be “authentic” or “real”. Yet he had no interest in morphing into a sci-fi rock god construct like David Bowie or Alice Cooper, either. Jackson wanted the measure of his album sales to be the yardstick for his success. After all, the more people bought his albums, the more they would love him. Then, the fantasy of his conquest could replace the reality of his isolation as long as he believed in the fantasy. He forgot, of course, that the love of a consumer public is fickle, as opposed to, say, the love found within the religious cults of movements.

Still, Thriller dropped like an atom bomb. Its effects are still lingering. It re-arranged the music business model to foster multi-platinum-selling blockbuster releases filled with half of an album’s worth of single-ready tracks. It reformatted radio to accommodate more integrated playlists. It infamously launched both Epic Records and MTV. Its crossovers with Pepsi, the ad council, and, eventually, Disney paved the way for the multimedia experience. In a way, Thriller became the largest album of all time by pronouncing itself as such. It was the beginning of the marketing blitz designed to suspend all other activities of life in anticipation of the arrival of the next, new glossy thing. It practically wrote its own headlines. The only single person, black or white, to ever inspire a relatable mass-marketing craze to the one Michael Jackson did is now living in the White House

Though not directly Jackson’s making, the ripple effect is staggering when you think about it. The success of the music videos from Thriller set a new standard for the burgeoning MTV, a channel of 24-hour advertising. Music video and MTV redefined visual media, particularly Madison Avenue, rearranging how advertisers thought about image management, lifestyle branding, and visual manipulation. These tools were eventually weaned into the “perfect” science of neoliberal ideology until they conquered all television, including the major news networks, subsequently centering all aspects of American life around either the accumulation of commodities or the fulfillment of lifestyle prescriptions. The epitomical spire of this dystopian arch could be seen in George W. Bush’s use of public relations firms to help him launch the war in Iraq.

The products up for sale, whether a war or a record, took on only totemic value. Their value lied only in their appearance within the larger mainframe. “We Are the World” was charity as commodity, the idea of change available for the price of being entertained by a room full of rock stars. Soon, corporate donations were a stand-in for activism, and you could “pitch in” by donating a small portion of your money to some of the world’s richest earners. The illusion of participatory culture was further augmented by Jackson’s complicity in the cola wars, demanding of the young (“a whole new generation” as the bastardization of “Billie Jean” went) that “you’ve got to make a choice” between Coke and Pepsi, a selection process that later became an apt metaphor for the two major political parties in the U.S. as they assimilated into one another.

The media’s eventual backlash against Jackson seemed like a self-defense mechanism, like they could not believe their golden child was capable of acting in a way not befitting of the royalty bestowed upon him, dressing up chimps, spreading rumors about buying the elephant man’s bones, throwing sleepovers with kids, and filming extended montages of vehicular vandalism. When the king of pop married Lisa Marie Presley, daughter of the king of rock, it felt like an arranged marriage, another PR stunt. Any incentive beyond the advancement of himself as a brand legacy was inconceivable. Perhaps even more inexplicable to Michael Jackson himself, we had turned him into his father, scorning his careerism and practically begging him to dangle his baby out the window so that we might wag our fingers at him.

That his tickets-only funeral was to be held open casket with camera crews roving throughout the Staples center is no surprise. Jackson’s death, like his life, is to be cast in the glow of the spectacle and consumed by a public claiming ownership over his dead body. His death was a human sacrifice to appease the gods of capitalism in a downturned economy. It’s as if the executives at Sony got together in a room and said “Jesus, we’re dying out here. We need to do something drastic. Let’s kill Michael Jackson”

His death was filled with tragic irony. He was the biggest selling pop star who left a mountain of financial woes. Known for his singing and dancing skills, he was finally frail and struggled to maintain his patented range. An anti-drug spokesmodel at his peak, he succumbed to legal prescription addictions. The world Michael Jackson trusted, the one we built for him, the one we promised for him, was false. Soon, he will become mere myth, and it will be like he never existed at all—if he ever even did.
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Damn, great article. Very well written.
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Reply #1113 posted 07/12/09 2:47am

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Love this performance


[Edited 7/12/09 2:48am]
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Reply #1114 posted 07/12/09 2:51am

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Can someone tell me what happened in the '88 Grammys performance? Why was his microphone switched off twice during Man in the Mirror?
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Reply #1115 posted 07/12/09 2:57am

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Can someone tell me what happened in the '88 Grammys performance? Why was his microphone switched off twice during Man in the Mirror?


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Reply #1116 posted 07/12/09 3:02am

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Timmy84 said:

purplesweat said:

Can someone tell me what happened in the '88 Grammys performance? Why was his microphone switched off twice during Man in the Mirror?


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Reply #1117 posted 07/12/09 3:17am

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Arguably 3 of the biggest stars of the 80's in one shot. I love this pic:-


damn I miss the eighties. sad
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Reply #1118 posted 07/12/09 3:39am

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Love this performance


[Edited 7/12/09 2:48am]


This illustrates how soulful Michael was at such a young age.
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Reply #1119 posted 07/12/09 3:45am

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I know nobody wants a nose discussion but Bboy's post got me wondering about when he actually began w/ it all. The first few changes are slight, it's not until the Off the Wall cover that the difference really becomes apparent. Might have some pics mixed up, but this seems like a decent timeline of changes...



God-given...







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Surgery #1 - shaft is thinner...








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I'm guessing this was Surgery #2, looks a bit smaller/slimmer...





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Surgery #3, starting to fuck w/ the nostrils & again the shaft is a bit slimmer...







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Surgery #4, slimmer overall...











The first surgery is what you see with OTW. Some of those pics you are posting he hasn't had any surgery yet, it was more to do with the angle and the fact that his face was still growing naturally.
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Reply #1120 posted 07/12/09 3:54am

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jn2 said:

PaisleyPark5083 said:


damn I miss the eighties. sad
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which three?

Lionel, Mike... and then? Phil or Quincy?
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Reply #1121 posted 07/12/09 3:55am

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whatsgoingon said:

CalhounSq said:

I know nobody wants a nose discussion but Bboy's post got me wondering about when he actually began w/ it all. The first few changes are slight, it's not until the Off the Wall cover that the difference really becomes apparent. Might have some pics mixed up, but this seems like a decent timeline of changes...



God-given...







star


Surgery #1 - shaft is thinner...








star


I'm guessing this was Surgery #2, looks a bit smaller/slimmer...





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Surgery #3, starting to fuck w/ the nostrils & again the shaft is a bit slimmer...







star


Surgery #4, slimmer overall...











The first surgery is what you see with OTW. Some of those pics you are posting he hasn't had any surgery yet, it was more to do with the angle and the fact that his face was still growing naturally.


He had one after the Thriller cover shooting and the Motown 25 performance?
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Reply #1122 posted 07/12/09 3:56am

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graecophilos said:

whatsgoingon said:



The first surgery is what you see with OTW. Some of those pics you are posting he hasn't had any surgery yet, it was more to do with the angle and the fact that his face was still growing naturally.

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He had one between the Thriller cover shooting and the Motown 25 performance
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Reply #1123 posted 07/12/09 4:10am

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graecophilos said:


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He had one between the Thriller cover shooting and the Motown 25 performance

I agree by the time he did Thriller which was 3 years after OTw he had robably had a couple more nose jobs however some of the pics of MJ posted depicting him as having surgery is incorrect. Some of the pics depicting surgeries 1 & 2 he hadn't had surgery at all. Some of the pics were taken in 1977 and I don't think MJ started surgery until 78 after he fell and broke his nose, even during the Wiz he still had his original nose.
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Reply #1124 posted 07/12/09 2:14pm

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whatsgoingon said:

CalhounSq said:

*pics were here*


The first surgery is what you see with OTW. Some of those pics you are posting he hasn't had any surgery yet, it was more to do with the angle and the fact that his face was still growing naturally.

It's entirely possible that surgeries 1 & 2 were in fact one procedure, same w/ 3 & 4 - could have been 1 job. But I do see a definite progression toward smaller/thinner (be it just the shaft or just the tip) in these four photos. But people never agree on this stuff. You have mf's who think he did nothing new during stretches of years when he changed a bunch of shit lol I think it's hard to see for some, but I feel like I'm good @ spotting this stuff shrug Whatevuhz, I could be wrong. I just don't think I am smile





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Reply #1125 posted 07/12/09 2:22pm

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Michael Jackson: King of Style
The military details, red leather and black loafers made the pop singer an '80s fashion icon
07/10/09

Wearing one glove, Michael Jackson reached into the pop culture zeitgeist and influenced an entire generation, giving pieces as simple as military badges and a fedora an imprint that, for a time, was as powerful as his music.

At the height of his career in the mid-1980s, he was a fresh representation of how a male pop singer could look, with his perfectly chiseled face, long curls, white T-shirt, black pegged pants, white ankle socks and black loafers. Reminiscent of a dancer's costume, the graphic black-and-white enhanced his unbelievable moves. That rhinestone-studded glove became his signature statement.

The power of his determinedly idiosyncratic style was amplified by MTV, which beamed "Billie Jean" and "Beat It" around the world and made him its first fashion icon. Teenagers wanted what he had, taking break-dance lessons and wearing pink bow ties and single rhinestone gloves to school.

The more his popularity soared, the more he dressed to impress. The red leather, zippers and Jheri curls of "Thriller" evolved into a more regal look that was in keeping with his reputation as the King of Pop. Embellished jackets became his uniform. Festooned with gold braiding, epaulets, brass buttons, even forks and knives, each one was more elaborate than the next, and they became a kind of symbol for the more-is-more fashion era.

In 1984, when Jackson was invited to the White House to receive an award from President Reagan, he wore a blue sequined cropped jacket with gold sequined epaulets, his signature glove, black loafers with spats and aviator sunglasses.

The men behind the Man in the Mirror were L.A.-based costume designers Michael Bush and Dennis Tompkins. They quietly designed most of Jackson's personal and concert tour wardrobes -- tens of thousands of pieces, many with military details -- working from a Michael mannequin in their studio that was built to the singer's exact measurements. The pop star's directive was always, "This is what the world's wearing -- top it," the designers said in 2005. And they tried. One jacket -- worn in a 1990 L.A. Gear ad campaign -- was black suede and covered in miniature gold license plates.

Costume designer Deborah Landis designed the iconic leather "Thriller" jacket, settling on the color after learning that "there would be a huge dance with ghouls, and the ghouls would be very ragged and coming from dust," she said recently. "So I thought, what would make Michael pop? I went through the palette and came up with red."

Jackson understood the power of costume on and off the stage -- and even in court. When he appeared at the Santa Maria courthouse in 2005 to face child molestation charges, his oddly styled get-ups (the famous pajama bottoms and armbands) created a template for a kind of kooky celeb-goes-on-trial look.

It was his face, though, that seemed to hold the most fascination for the public. The never-ending speculation about his rhinoplasties fueled a cultural obsession with plastic surgery as Jackson pursued an ideal of beauty that for him was always just out of reach.

It's almost as if the fashion industry knew it was time for a Jackson tribute. The pop singer's influence was everywhere on the runway this past season, in the crystal-dusted jackets at Balmain, Givenchy's gold-studded jackets and the sequined gloves at Louis Vuitton.

Swarovski had been tapped to bedazzle the costumes for Jackson's comeback tour in London. It would have been a fashion spectacle for the ages.


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Reply #1126 posted 07/12/09 2:44pm

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whatsgoingon said:

graecophilos said:




He had one between the Thriller cover shooting and the Motown 25 performance

I agree by the time he did Thriller which was 3 years after OTw he had robably had a couple more nose jobs however some of the pics of MJ posted depicting him as having surgery is incorrect. Some of the pics depicting surgeries 1 & 2 he hadn't had surgery at all. Some of the pics were taken in 1977 and I don't think MJ started surgery until 78 after he fell and broke his nose, even during the Wiz he still had his original nose.


I don't think it's impossible that he could have had something done before he broke it, but that's just me... The Wiz was shot in '77, released in '78.








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Reply #1128 posted 07/12/09 2:58pm

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I just realized that was Leif Garrett on the right of MJ...
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Reply #1129 posted 07/12/09 3:03pm

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Here's some video/pictures of the coverage from Gary, IN.. their tribute to their native son. The late Michael Jackson.

Video: Part 1 (25 minutes)
http://www.cltv.com/video...&src=front

Video: Part 2 (22 minutes)
http://www.cltv.com/video...&src=front

Photos:
http://www.cltv.com/news/...otogallery
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TD3 said:

Here's some video/pictures of the coverage from Gary, IN.. their tribute to their native son. The late Michael Jackson.

Video: Part 1 (25 minutes)
http://www.cltv.com/video...&src=front

Video: Part 2 (22 minutes)
http://www.cltv.com/video...&src=front

Photos:
http://www.cltv.com/news/...otogallery


Thanks.....

Pics of one of the dancers falloff lol


Timmy , save this lol
MICHAEL JACKSON
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Reply #1131 posted 07/12/09 3:15pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

TD3 said:

Here's some video/pictures of the coverage from Gary, IN.. their tribute to their native son. The late Michael Jackson.

Video: Part 1 (25 minutes)
http://www.cltv.com/video...&src=front

Video: Part 2 (22 minutes)
http://www.cltv.com/video...&src=front

Photos:
http://www.cltv.com/news/...otogallery


Thanks.....

Pics of one of the dancers falloff lol


Timmy , save this lol


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Reply #1132 posted 07/12/09 3:24pm

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Timmy84 said:



I just realized that was Leif Garrett on the right of MJ...

Yep. Leif always stated that he and his sister were HUGE J5 and then Michael fans. Michael in this pic though looks like he very much wants to get out of there! He looks like "Damn, WHO talked me into THIS shit here?!" lol
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Reply #1133 posted 07/12/09 3:27pm

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Timmy84 said:



I just realized that was Leif Garrett on the right of MJ...

Yep. Leif always stated that he and his sister were HUGE J5 and then Michael fans. Michael in this pic though looks like he very much wants to get out of there! He looks like "Damn, WHO talked me into THIS shit here?!" lol


Yeah MJ doesn't look too comfortable to be there. lol
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Reply #1134 posted 07/12/09 3:29pm

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Yeah all those pictures just showed me his first nose job was slightly before Off The Wall, I think the 'third' nose job in the pictures was actually his first. The nose can look different depending on too many factors. Angle, makeup, smiling/not smiling. And some of the pictures posted after the 'first' and 'second' nose job were taken in reality before some 'before' nose job shots, which proves the angle theory. And I know the minute Michael started wearing make up, he used the 'slim down the nose' technique, which could make people think another nose job. I know he was overkilling this technique in the late 90's
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Reply #1135 posted 07/12/09 3:33pm

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blackguitaristz said:

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What do you guys think of this image.

Very beautiful and ironically sad image. I think it captures Michael's youth perfectly. Since Michael's death, I couldn't bring myself to post anything on here. On Michael or anything else for that matter. Personally, I just wasn't ready to share any of my feelings about his death on a site. But someone actually orged me the link to this specific page to see this picture, asking me if I had ever seen it. I had not. Seeing this picture somehow eased my reservations/resistence of sharing some of my feelings about Michael and his death. I, like millions of others, grew up listening to the Jackson 5. They came into my life when I was only 3 years old. I vividly remember watching the Jackson 5 cartoons, running alongside the television, like I was actually a part of the show, pretending to be either Michael or just one of the brothers. "Come on Michael, let's go!" I would say as I would be running in the living room, all the while keeping my eyes glued to the screen. The very first concert I had ever been to was to see the Jackson Five. My mother took me. The second concert was the Stax Watts Festival and I went with my mom and my dad. I, like millions of others, from a very very young age, ADORED the Jackson 5. I had and still have, every single one of their 45's and albums. I have all of Michael's solo albums while he was still in the group as well as Jermaine's and one of Jackie from 73. I, like millions of other's witnessed Michael shoot up in height, going from the smallest in the group (it varied between Michael and Marlon) to the tallest. I witnessed his voice change and his complete domination of the stage as a performer. I saw him reveal The Robot on Soul Train. At that time, EVERYBODY marvelled in that like the WORLD marvelled later when Michael revealed the Moonwalk on Motown's Special. I witnessed when Jermaine left the J5 and many in the press questioned could the Jacksons stay the powerhouse that they once were. When they hit with "Enjoy Yourself" that answered all of them. I witnessed, like millions of others, Michael's higher rise to fame during "The Wiz" and with "Off The Wall". I witnessed his massive meteoric rise with Thriller. I witnessed all of his ups and downs that would come later in the man's career and life. To me, I felt like Michael was a spiritual relative being that he had been in my life since I was 3. I felt totally stunned and physically ill when I heard he had died. At first, I didn't believe it. And me living out here in L.A., there are no words to describe what it was like. Once I realized it was true, I felt like someone had shot me in my stomach. The man has been a huge influence on me as an artist and like millions of others, I am DEEPLY saddened by the man's passing. Michael, you will be forever greatly missed.[Edited 7/11/09 22:47pm]


co-sign, co-sign, co-sign. everything you said except i was 5, not 3. i would be mad at myself for not waking up in time to catch the j5 cartoon. i'm still in a state of disbelief.
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Yep. Leif always stated that he and his sister were HUGE J5 and then Michael fans. Michael in this pic though looks like he very much wants to get out of there! He looks like "Damn, WHO talked me into THIS shit here?!" lol


Yeah MJ doesn't look too comfortable to be there. lol

Nah, not at all. And you know back then, Michael was athletic. So it wasn't that. Regarding Leif and him being a fan of Michael, at the 1980 AMA's, Leif was the presenter of Michael winning Favorite Male Soul Artist for "Don't Stop Till You Get Enough". Leif was hella hyped and was waaaay more excited than Michael was.
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Yeah MJ doesn't look too comfortable to be there. lol

Nah, not at all. And you know back then, Michael was athletic. So it wasn't that. Regarding Leif and him being a fan of Michael. at the 1980 AMA's, Leif was the presenter of Michael winning Favorite Male Vocalist Soul for "Don't Stop Till You Get Enough". Leif was hella hyped and was waaaay more excited than Michael was.


lol

Andy Gibb also presented him with an award too, if I'm not mistaken.
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Timmy84 said:

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Nah, not at all. And you know back then, Michael was athletic. So it wasn't that. Regarding Leif and him being a fan of Michael. at the 1980 AMA's, Leif was the presenter of Michael winning Favorite Male Vocalist Soul for "Don't Stop Till You Get Enough". Leif was hella hyped and was waaaay more excited than Michael was.


lol

Andy Gibb also presented him with an award too, if I'm not mistaken.

I believe that was the very next year in 81 at the AMA's when Andy presented it to him. Michael won 2 that year.
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lol

Andy Gibb also presented him with an award too, if I'm not mistaken.

I believe that was the very next year in 81 at the AMA's when Andy presented it to him. Michael won 2 that year.


AH! Ok, thanks for clearing that up. lol biggrin

I do remember seeing MJ accepting one of the awards, probably the award you were talking about and MJ going "man I don't know what else to say...thank you very much!" lol
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