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Thread started 01/24/09 4:23pm

tamewar

Mariah Carey: An Overrated Singer

Ok I'm watching youtube videos of the past and i just notice that Mariah Cary is so Overrated! eek

Say what you wan't about Whitney but Mariah to me is that White artist (even if she not White,whatever!!) That people like to say is better then the real talent. Vocal-wise Whitney kills her, I never knew why they compare the two Mariah is what beyonce is to me now- Love/Hate overrated talent.

I know what your going say Mariah writes all her song,She not a Crackwhore confused.

We'll i'll say this Mariah Carey is a leona lewis with a bit of luck cause none of her songs does it for me, She has no Soul and is boring.

Watch youtube and see Ms.Houston Perfrom The Greatest love all Love No gay male dancer,flashy lights,not Half dress cause she is singing i mean sanging.

I'm sorry for for rant cause i know how her LAMBs can get
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Reply #1 posted 01/24/09 5:31pm

Shango

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The Candyshop offers lotza flavors burger drink
Ya can't please everyone lol
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Reply #2 posted 01/24/09 7:19pm

alphastreet

I always thought she was the "white whitney" too until I found out she's mixed.
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Reply #3 posted 01/24/09 7:22pm

kimrachell

mariah started out singing great on her first few albums, but the whisper singing she does now just plain sucks! hrmph
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Reply #4 posted 01/24/09 7:24pm

lowkey

i always said mariah was a studio singer
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Reply #5 posted 01/25/09 7:58am

Harlepolis

Teena Marie is white and she got more soul in her clit than Whitney Houston got in her body, just saying

Personally, I think Mariah is more intersting than Whitney,,,,,Whitney tries to walk down the diva route(show up in the studio after everybody wrote her a song that CLIVE DAVIS picked rolleyes and then sing),,,,which is fine and dandy, but can we get a lil' more personal than that? shrug

Mariah's raw deal is the wack fluff that she ALWAYS sings these recent years(Touch My Body, Loverboy etc etc) but behind all that bullshit, she's a helluva song writer thats the reason why I root for her,,,,,Whitney could never come up with something like Sublte Invitation and Petals.

I love Whitney but all I see is "Clive Davis' puppet", I'll start taking notes when she drops the phony "diva" act and show us something from the gut.
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Reply #6 posted 01/25/09 8:02am

Cinnie

Harlepolis said:

she's a helluva song writer thats the reason why I root for her,,,,,Whitney could never come up with something like Sublte Invitation and Petals.


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Reply #7 posted 01/25/09 8:08am

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She's got a nice body & a passable voice, which adds up to a golden ticket in this industry of swill.
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Reply #8 posted 01/25/09 8:48am

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Mariah had an amazing voice on her earlier records. Her vocal abilities have declined recently and she doesn't sound so good anymore. She's never been a terrific live perfomer so looking at her live shows on youtube isn't really a good way to judge her singing.
I think people who say she's overrated probably aren't familiar with her earlier work and are just going by her recent recordings.
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Reply #9 posted 01/25/09 9:40am

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everyone is overrated by somebody. shrug
"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #10 posted 01/25/09 9:55am

alphastreet

I agree that her voice is at it's best on the first 2 albums and the melodies are strong. I have all of her albums and each one has a good set of songs, or at least non-released tracks that made the album worth buying, but I really think she overdid it with the hip hop a lot of times.
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Reply #11 posted 01/25/09 10:56am

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WTH? She's got an 8 octave range or some ridiculous shit like that!

I'd like to see you try that.
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Reply #12 posted 01/25/09 10:58am

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Glindathegood said:

Mariah had an amazing voice on her earlier records. Her vocal abilities have declined recently and she doesn't sound so good anymore. She's never been a terrific live perfomer so looking at her live shows on youtube isn't really a good way to judge her singing.
I think people who say she's overrated probably aren't familiar with her earlier work and are just going by her recent recordings.

co-nod Not to mention her ability as a song writer. She actually knows how to craft a song. How many of these no-talent chicks today can do that? Oh and if you want to hear soulful Mariah check out any one of MANY remixes or Jesus, What a Wonderful Child. Don't be fooled, that heffa's got soul.
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Reply #13 posted 01/25/09 11:16am

NMuzakNSoul

GetAwayFromMe said:

WTH? She's got an 8 octave range or some ridiculous shit like that!

I'd like to see you try that.


No. lol Do you know how many notes 8 octaves include? Try it on the piano when you can. Now if my cat would jump up when she opens her mouth and I give The Rock brow I don't hear shit and she goes lower than Barry White slowed down like crazy, I will believe that.
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Reply #14 posted 01/25/09 11:21am

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I'm fully aware of voice range. Can you sing as well as she?

The rest of your post I don't understand, so...yeah.
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Reply #15 posted 01/25/09 11:24am

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NMuzakNSoul said:

GetAwayFromMe said:

WTH? She's got an 8 octave range or some ridiculous shit like that!

I'd like to see you try that.


No. lol Do you know how many notes 8 octaves include? Try it on the piano when you can. Now if my cat would jump up when she opens her mouth and I give The Rock brow I don't hear shit and she goes lower than Barry White slowed down like crazy, I will believe that.

She told Entertainment Weekly: ''I'm an alto with a five-octave range,'' she says, ''and then there's my whisper register.''
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Reply #16 posted 01/25/09 11:33am

Harlepolis

HELL!!!

THEE Leontyne Price took off her hat for Mariah lol and you mofos fussing about Mariah's "octave range" lol

Even Deniece William said the chic is no joke.
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Reply #17 posted 01/25/09 12:16pm

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did Classic Whitney shut down or something? lol
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Reply #18 posted 01/25/09 12:34pm

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tamewar said:

Ok I'm watching youtube videos of the past and i just notice that Mariah Cary is so Overrated! eek

Say what you wan't about Whitney but Mariah to me is that White artist (even if she not White,whatever!!) That people like to say is better then the real talent. Vocal-wise Whitney kills her, I never knew why they compare the two Mariah is what beyonce is to me now- Love/Hate overrated talent.

I know what your going say Mariah writes all her song,She not a Crackwhore confused.

We'll i'll say this Mariah Carey is a leona lewis with a bit of luck cause none of her songs does it for me, She has no Soul and is boring.

Watch youtube and see Ms.Houston Perfrom The Greatest love all Love No gay male dancer,flashy lights,not Half dress cause she is singing i mean sanging.

I'm sorry for for rant cause i know how her LAMBs can get



Try this one and tell me what you think...
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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Reply #19 posted 01/25/09 12:42pm

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paisleypark4 said:

tamewar said:

Ok I'm watching youtube videos of the past and i just notice that Mariah Cary is so Overrated! eek

Say what you wan't about Whitney but Mariah to me is that White artist (even if she not White,whatever!!) That people like to say is better then the real talent. Vocal-wise Whitney kills her, I never knew why they compare the two Mariah is what beyonce is to me now- Love/Hate overrated talent.

I know what your going say Mariah writes all her song,She not a Crackwhore confused.

We'll i'll say this Mariah Carey is a leona lewis with a bit of luck cause none of her songs does it for me, She has no Soul and is boring.

Watch youtube and see Ms.Houston Perfrom The Greatest love all Love No gay male dancer,flashy lights,not Half dress cause she is singing i mean sanging.

I'm sorry for for rant cause i know how her LAMBs can get



Try this one and tell me what you think...

love This is my favorite Mariah vocal performance. I challenge ANY of these so-called "divas" to step up with anything remotely close to that performance. bringiton

On second thought, Vanishing is my second fave cuz she shut it down with this:


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Reply #20 posted 01/25/09 12:47pm

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^^ co- love

to me though, this is her finest moment ever


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Reply #21 posted 01/25/09 12:47pm

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Harlepolis said:

Teena Marie is white and she got more soul in her clit than Whitney Houston got in her body, just saying

Personally, I think Mariah is more intersting than Whitney,,,,,Whitney tries to walk down the diva route(show up in the studio after everybody wrote her a song that CLIVE DAVIS picked rolleyes and then sing),,,,which is fine and dandy, but can we get a lil' more personal than that? shrug

Mariah's raw deal is the wack fluff that she ALWAYS sings these recent years(Touch My Body, Loverboy etc etc) but behind all that bullshit, she's a helluva song writer thats the reason why I root for her,,,,,Whitney could never come up with something like Sublte Invitation and Petals.

I love Whitney but all I see is "Clive Davis' puppet", I'll start taking notes when she drops the phony "diva" act and show us something from the gut.
[Edited 1/25/09 7:59am]


I agree. I want Mariah to cut tradition and cut something left-base, may never happen tho. confused
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Reply #22 posted 01/25/09 12:53pm

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PricelessHo said:

^^ co- love

to me though, this is her finest moment ever


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omg That was a bad bitch. Sadly, Mariah couldn't do that shit again if she wanted to. BUT Beyonce an' nem never could.
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Reply #23 posted 01/25/09 1:04pm

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SCNDLS said:

PricelessHo said:

^^ co- love

to me though, this is her finest moment ever

http://www.youtube.com/wa...EkBcU7YZvg

omg That was a bad bitch. Sadly, Mariah couldn't do that shit again if she wanted to. BUT Beyonce an' nem never could.


she was just madly into it love

and you can say the last part again. and again. and again lol


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Reply #24 posted 01/25/09 2:40pm

alphastreet

She has so many underrated ballads and several midtempos as well.
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Reply #25 posted 01/25/09 3:15pm

NMuzakNSoul

I'm just saying a 8 octave range doesn't exist nor count. lol 5 octave range she has and it's right, (which is sick EITHER way trust me) anything else doesn't count. cool

A quote here:

"If you’ve been musically trained you know that octaves are arranged C D E F G A B and then C’. There are 8 octaves on the piano and to count octaves you start with the lowest note and count to the same note in the next octave until you get the range. Now in order for Mariah to sing all eight octaves she’d have to be able to sing several notes lower than what any man can which is impossible even for someone with her range. The lowest most men can sing is a G2 while there are those like Viktor Wichniakov (a male opera singer) who can sing C2 (C1 in European standard). Mariah’s lowest note she ever sung was C3 at the end of My All, and the beginning of Emotions, and You’re So Cold–not A2 or D3 like some people keep saying.

A singer’s true range is measured by the number of notes they can actually SING–not necessarily HIT"

But moving on from that...

When Mariah started out she sounded real real real good, now she doesn't sound as good live but can still belt out some sick notes.
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Reply #26 posted 01/25/09 3:41pm

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NMuzakNSoul said:

I'm just saying a 8 octave range doesn't exist nor count. lol 5 octave range she has and it's right, (which is sick EITHER way trust me) anything else doesn't count. cool

A quote here:

"If you’ve been musically trained you know that octaves are arranged C D E F G A B and then C’. There are 8 octaves on the piano and to count octaves you start with the lowest note and count to the same note in the next octave until you get the range. Now in order for Mariah to sing all eight octaves she’d have to be able to sing several notes lower than what any man can which is impossible even for someone with her range. The lowest most men can sing is a G2 while there are those like Viktor Wichniakov (a male opera singer) who can sing C2 (C1 in European standard). Mariah’s lowest note she ever sung was C3 at the end of My All, and the beginning of Emotions, and You’re So Cold–not A2 or D3 like some people keep saying.

A singer’s true range is measured by the number of notes they can actually SING–not necessarily HIT"

But moving on from that...

When Mariah started out she sounded real real real good, now she doesn't sound as good live but can still belt out some sick notes.
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rolleyes

You do understand the point I was making. correct?
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Reply #27 posted 01/25/09 3:43pm

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Harlepolis said:

Teena Marie is white and she got more soul in her clit than Whitney Houston got in her body, just saying

Personally, I think Mariah is more intersting than Whitney,,,,,Whitney tries to walk down the diva route(show up in the studio after everybody wrote her a song that CLIVE DAVIS picked rolleyes and then sing),,,,which is fine and dandy, but can we get a lil' more personal than that? shrug

Mariah's raw deal is the wack fluff that she ALWAYS sings these recent years(Touch My Body, Loverboy etc etc) but behind all that bullshit, she's a helluva song writer thats the reason why I root for her,,,,,Whitney could never come up with something like Sublte Invitation and Petals.

I love Whitney but all I see is "Clive Davis' puppet", I'll start taking notes when she drops the phony "diva" act and show us something from the gut.
[Edited 1/25/09 7:59am]

Aw damn! spit

You deserve a hug for that one

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Reply #28 posted 01/25/09 3:48pm

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PricelessHo said:

^^ co- love

to me though, this is her finest moment ever


[Edited 1/25/09 12:48pm]


Amazing performance.
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Reply #29 posted 01/25/09 4:00pm

Harlepolis

bboy87 said:

Harlepolis said:

Teena Marie is white and she got more soul in her clit than Whitney Houston got in her body, just saying

Personally, I think Mariah is more intersting than Whitney,,,,,Whitney tries to walk down the diva route(show up in the studio after everybody wrote her a song that CLIVE DAVIS picked rolleyes and then sing),,,,which is fine and dandy, but can we get a lil' more personal than that? shrug

Mariah's raw deal is the wack fluff that she ALWAYS sings these recent years(Touch My Body, Loverboy etc etc) but behind all that bullshit, she's a helluva song writer thats the reason why I root for her,,,,,Whitney could never come up with something like Sublte Invitation and Petals.

I love Whitney but all I see is "Clive Davis' puppet", I'll start taking notes when she drops the phony "diva" act and show us something from the gut.
[Edited 1/25/09 7:59am]

Aw damn! spit

You deserve a hug for that one



I'm gonna squeeze out the gif source from you if its the LAST fuckin' thing I do evillol
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