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Lammastide

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Pharrell made Madonna cry in studio

By Henry Adaso, about.com
Tuesday May 27, 2008

Everyone has a Madonna story these days, but this one tops them all. In a recent ABC Nightline interview, Madonna revealed that hip-hop producer Pharrell Williams (of the Neptunes) brought her to tears during a recording session for Hard Candy.

"I was singing and I didn’t understand the rhythm that he wanted me to sing in," said Madonna, "and he was kind of giving me a hard time and I was sort of taken aback by the way he was talking to me, so I said 'You know what? we need to talk.'"

She adds, "We went upstairs and I said, 'You can't talk to me like that,' and burst into tears. And he said, 'Oh my god, Madonna has a heart!' I started crying even more, and we had it out. Now I love him and we make great music together, but I think we had to go through that."

The Neptunes (Pharrell & Chad Hugo) contributed 8 tracks to Madonna's hip-hop-heavy album. Timbaland produced 4 songs, while Kanye West appears on "The Beat Goes On."
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #1 posted 05/28/08 6:45am

SoulAlive

hmmm I'm dying to know what song they had the conflict over
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Reply #2 posted 05/28/08 6:49am

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Lammastide said:

By Henry Adaso, about.com
Tuesday May 27, 2008

Everyone has a Madonna story these days, but this one tops them all. In a recent ABC Nightline interview, Madonna revealed that hip-hop producer Pharrell Williams (of the Neptunes) brought her to tears during a recording session for Hard Candy.

"I was singing and I didn’t understand the rhythm that he wanted me to sing in," said Madonna, "and he was kind of giving me a hard time and I was sort of taken aback by the way he was talking to me, so I said 'You know what? we need to talk.'"

She adds, "We went upstairs and I said, 'You can't talk to me like that,' and burst into tears. And he said, 'Oh my god, Madonna has a heart!' I started crying even more, and we had it out. Now I love him and we make great music together, but I think we had to go through that."

The Neptunes (Pharrell & Chad Hugo) contributed 8 tracks to Madonna's hip-hop-heavy album. Timbaland produced 4 songs, while Kanye West appears on "The Beat Goes On."


One of the more interesting stories I have heard. You would think that Madonna would have heard far worst over her career from other people instead of a guy that sings falsetto like his nuts were being squeezed:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wIBTrN5Odbg
"Old man's gotta be the old man. Fish has got to be the fish."
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Reply #3 posted 05/28/08 6:51am

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Glad to know he wasn't walking on egg shells when dealing with her cool
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Reply #4 posted 05/28/08 6:53am

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Lammastide said:

The Neptunes (Pharrell & Chad Hugo) contributed 8 tracks to Madonna's hip-hop-heavy album. Timbaland produced 4 songs, while Kanye West appears on "The Beat Goes On."


Actually,The Neptunes contributed seven tracks to 'Hard Candy' (I don't count "Ring My Bell" since it only appears on the Japanese import) while Timbaland contributed five tracks wink
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SoulAlive said:

Lammastide said:

The Neptunes (Pharrell & Chad Hugo) contributed 8 tracks to Madonna's hip-hop-heavy album. Timbaland produced 4 songs, while Kanye West appears on "The Beat Goes On."


Actually,The Neptunes contributed seven tracks to 'Hard Candy' (I don't count "Ring My Bell" since it only appears on the Japanese import) while Timbaland contributed five tracks wink

Henry Adaso stands corrected. smile
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #6 posted 05/28/08 6:57am

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Glad to know he wasn't walking on egg shells when dealing with her cool


nod I think the friction was a good thing and it really paid off.Pharrell recently said "Madonna worked me to death but you know what? I'm glad she pushed me.It resulted in some of my best material".
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Reply #7 posted 05/28/08 9:14am

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i still think he should hook up with michael jackson the result would be better then with will.iam. anyway i think its good that he wassent star struck and told her whats up
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Reply #8 posted 05/28/08 9:24am

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And why can't he talk to her "that way"???? Bitch, if you fuckin' up, you fuckin' up! rolleyes That's what's wrong with these damn celebs now. They're so used to yes men that their lil fragile egos can't handle the truth. If I was Pharrell, (after my check cleared) I'da told her to kiss my ass and get back in the booth and try to sing on key. fight
But I love you though, Madge . . . comfort lol
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SCNDLS said:

And why can't he talk to her "that way"???? Bitch, if you fuckin' up, you fuckin' up! rolleyes That's what's wrong with these damn celebs now. They're so used to yes men that their lil fragile egos can't handle the truth. If I was Pharrell, (after my check cleared) I'da told her to kiss my ass and get back in the booth and try to sing on key. fight
But I love you though, Madge . . . comfort lol



lol lol
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Reply #10 posted 05/28/08 9:29am

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Somehow Madge gets cool points for this too... She's the ultimate diva, and she knows it. That she can admit Pharrell cut through her crap and turned her world upside down (she says this wasn't a delicate, little cry; but that she was bawling bawl, spitting snot and whatnot lol) is an impressive confession. I think she knows she needed that and appreciates it on some level.
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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #11 posted 05/28/08 9:31am

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Lammastide said:

Somehow Madge gets cool points for this too... She's the ultimate diva, and she knows it. That she can admit Pharrell cut through her crap and turned her world upside down (she says this wasn't a delicate, little cry; but that she was bawling, spitting snot and whatnot lol) is an impressive confession. I think she appreciated it on some level.




I agree
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Reply #12 posted 05/28/08 9:45am

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I love it from both of them. I bet their sessions were intense. He’d probably make Michael too if MJ actually stepped into a studio with him.
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Reply #13 posted 05/28/08 11:28am

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I love it from both of them. I bet their sessions were intense. He’d probably make Michael too if MJ actually stepped into a studio with him.

make him cry just like with she's out of my life lol
anyway i still think productions inspired by michaels prime years would do michael good.
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Reply #14 posted 05/28/08 12:03pm

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motownlover said:

i still think he should hook up with michael jackson the result would be better then with will.iam. anyway i think its good that he wassent star struck and told her whats up



michael would never hook up with someone he could not intimidate
LOVE HARD.
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Evvy said:

motownlover said:

i still think he should hook up with michael jackson the result would be better then with will.iam. anyway i think its good that he wassent star struck and told her whats up



michael would never hook up with someone he could not intimidate



hmmm I believe that.


If he did decide to work with Pharrell I hope he says no. Pharrell’s moved on. Besides, despite his quirkiness, I don’t think Pharrell is down for the start-stop action of MJ. It might be exciting at first but gets old quick.
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Reply #16 posted 05/28/08 12:40pm

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Oh poor little girl sad

Anyway she still sucks lol
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She made a remark on 106th and Park about Pharrell texting while they were supposed to be working. Its obvious they had different styles and work habits.
I say FUCK PHARRELL. That sumbitch is the laziest producer in R&B/hip-hop. A lot of his collabos are straight GARBAGE.
That weak ass cheerleader shit he did with Gwen Stefani - garbage.
That lame ass "Wanna Love You Girl" bullshit he did with Robin Thicke - garbage.
The only reason he's doing the Madonna gig is because he's hot with the kids and she worships popularity. Dude has some talent but in my opinion, 85% of the time his output is JUNK. Fred Sanford wouldn't even pick that shit up. The only time he seems to put out anything that's halfway tolerable is when he's working with rappers or occasionally with his N.E.R.D. projects and even then its nothing ground-breaking. It just goes to show that just because you can play more than one instrument, it doesn't mean that you're great by any stretch. All I can say is that he seems to be somewhat prolific. Of course that's not that hard when all you ever do is make 4 bar loops and call it a finished song.
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Reply #18 posted 05/28/08 8:04pm

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Fred Sanford wouldn't even pick that shit up.


lol !!!
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She made a remark on 106th and Park about Pharrell texting while they were supposed to be working. Its obvious they had different styles and work habits.
I say FUCK PHARRELL. That sumbitch is the laziest producer in R&B/hip-hop. A lot of his collabos are straight GARBAGE.
That weak ass cheerleader shit he did with Gwen Stefani - garbage.
That lame ass "Wanna Love You Girl" bullshit he did with Robin Thicke - garbage.
The only reason he's doing the Madonna gig is because he's hot with the kids and she worships popularity. Dude has some talent but in my opinion, 85% of the time his output is JUNK. Fred Sanford wouldn't even pick that shit up. The only time he seems to put out anything that's halfway tolerable is when he's working with rappers or occasionally with his N.E.R.D. projects and even then its nothing ground-breaking. It just goes to show that just because you can play more than one instrument, it doesn't mean that you're great by any stretch. All I can say is that he seems to be somewhat prolific. Of course that's not that hard when all you ever do is make 4 bar loops and call it a finished song.


Preach it!!! thumbs up!
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Reply #20 posted 05/28/08 9:15pm

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It was during Spanish Lesson eek LOL!


SoulAlive said:

hmmm I'm dying to know what song they had the conflict over
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Reply #21 posted 05/28/08 10:51pm

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Pharrell got his groove back with this album. His songs shit all over Timbos. He'd been in a creative slump until now and I REALLY hope they release Incredible as a single (shortened of course). I'm glad Give It To Me is the next single, although most probably wouldn't even realise Pharrell did it until he speaks lol
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I like Pharrell. The stuff with Kelis is incredible. Protect My Heart is beautiful!!

I think Madonna and Pharrell benefited from each other. While MadonnaÄs sound became more funky and black, Pharrell made some of his best pop songs ever.

I love Pharrell, he's innovative. And I like the PW songs on HC much more. I mean, the songs with Timber-lake are lame.

4 Minutes = commercial but has no soul or depth
Miles Away = i love it but it doesn't sound like Timbaland was heavily involved with it (expect for the beats)
Dance 2night = Nite Runner rip off
Devil and & VOices: ballads...

And there must be a reason why the other 5 songs didn't make the final cut (Madonna wrote 10 songs with Timber-land)

I wonder how many she wrote with Pharrell.
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btw, I was happy to hear that Pharrell wasn't shy to speak his mind and to torture Madonna if necessary.
That was posible because Pharrell doesn't depend on Madonna while Orbit, Mirwais and Stuart Price became rich because of Madonna. One bad word and the could have been fired and earned less money...
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Reply #24 posted 05/29/08 2:16am

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Pharrell got his groove back with this album. His songs shit all over Timbos. He'd been in a creative slump until now and I REALLY hope they release Incredible as a single (shortened of course). I'm glad Give It To Me is the next single, although most probably wouldn't even realise Pharrell did it until he speaks lol


I agree,the Pharrell songs are excellent.He came through with some amazing grooves.Still,my favorite song on the album is "Miles Away",which Timbaland produced wink

"Incredible" is my second favorite song on the album but I'm not sure if it should be a single.After "Give It To Me",the next two singles should be "Miles Away" (released in the fall just before the tour begins) and then "Beat Goes On".
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graecophilos said:

I think Madonna and Pharrell benefited from each other. While Madonna's sound became more funky and black, Pharrell made some of his best pop songs ever. I love Pharrell, he's innovative. And I like the PW songs on HC much more. I mean, the songs with Timber-lake are lame.
4 Minutes = commercial but has no soul or depth
Miles Away = i love it but it doesn't sound like Timbaland was heavily involved with it (expect for the beats)
Dance 2night = Nite Runner rip off
Devil and & VOices: ballads...
And there must be a reason why the other 5 songs didn't make the final cut (Madonna wrote 10 songs with Timber-land)
I wonder how many she wrote with Pharrell.


The Timbaland songs are good,but very "safe".It's interesting that Madonna worked with him on the slower,mellower songs on the album ("Devil Wouldn't Recognize You"..."Miles Away"...."Voices").I guess she's a big fan of his slower material? I would love to hear the five rejected tracks that she did with him.We know of two songs: "Across The Sky",which has been described as midtempo with lots of acoustic guitar.It's probably very similiar (musically) to "Miles Away" which is probably why it was left off the album.The other song is "La La",which Tim bragged about last summer.

The Pharrell songs are more experimental and uptempo,with more bells and whistles.And his songs have all these little fun surprises (the "get stupid" segment in "Give It To Me".....the frenzied second part of "Incredible" which could be another whole song....the extended portion at the end of "She's Not Me").Pharrell supplied the "hard" tracks while Tim supplied the "candy" lol
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SoulAlive said:

graecophilos said:

I think Madonna and Pharrell benefited from each other. While Madonna's sound became more funky and black, Pharrell made some of his best pop songs ever. I love Pharrell, he's innovative. And I like the PW songs on HC much more. I mean, the songs with Timber-lake are lame.
4 Minutes = commercial but has no soul or depth
Miles Away = i love it but it doesn't sound like Timbaland was heavily involved with it (expect for the beats)
Dance 2night = Nite Runner rip off
Devil and & VOices: ballads...
And there must be a reason why the other 5 songs didn't make the final cut (Madonna wrote 10 songs with Timber-land)
I wonder how many she wrote with Pharrell.


The Timbaland songs are good,but very "safe".It's interesting that Madonna worked with him on the slower,mellower songs on the album ("Devil Wouldn't Recognize You"..."Miles Away"...."Voices").I guess she's a big fan of his slower material? I would love to hear the five rejected tracks that she did with him.We know of two songs: "Across The Sky",which has been described as midtempo with lots of acoustic guitar.It's probably very similiar (musically) to "Miles Away" which is probably why it was left off the album.The other song is "La La",which Tim bragged about last summer.

The Pharrell songs are more experimental and uptempo,with more bells and whistles.And his songs have all these little fun surprises (the "get stupid" segment in "Give It To Me".....the frenzied second part of "Incredible" which could be another whole song....the extended portion at the end of "She's Not Me").Pharrell supplied the "hard" tracks while Tim supplied the "candy" lol


What an excellent way to put it!

And I agree about the "surprises" too - one reason why I LOVE Pharrell's music/production, you have to wait it out for the good stuff so it lasts longer!
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Reply #27 posted 05/29/08 3:13am

SoulAlive

purplesweat said:

SoulAlive said:



The Timbaland songs are good,but very "safe".It's interesting that Madonna worked with him on the slower,mellower songs on the album ("Devil Wouldn't Recognize You"..."Miles Away"...."Voices").I guess she's a big fan of his slower material? I would love to hear the five rejected tracks that she did with him.We know of two songs: "Across The Sky",which has been described as midtempo with lots of acoustic guitar.It's probably very similiar (musically) to "Miles Away" which is probably why it was left off the album.The other song is "La La",which Tim bragged about last summer.

The Pharrell songs are more experimental and uptempo,with more bells and whistles.And his songs have all these little fun surprises (the "get stupid" segment in "Give It To Me".....the frenzied second part of "Incredible" which could be another whole song....the extended portion at the end of "She's Not Me").Pharrell supplied the "hard" tracks while Tim supplied the "candy" lol


What an excellent way to put it!

And I agree about the "surprises" too - one reason why I LOVE Pharrell's music/production, you have to wait it out for the good stuff so it lasts longer!



nod the first time I heard the "get stupid" part in "Give It To Me",I was like "wtf are Madonna and Pharrell doing?!" lol Now that's my favorite part of the song,lol.I felt the same way when I first heard the second part of "Incredible".
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SoulAlive said:

purplesweat said:



What an excellent way to put it!

And I agree about the "surprises" too - one reason why I LOVE Pharrell's music/production, you have to wait it out for the good stuff so it lasts longer!



nod the first time I heard the "get stupid" part in "Give It To Me",I was like "wtf are Madonna and Pharrell doing?!" lol Now that's my favorite part of the song,lol.I felt the same way when I first heard the second part of "Incredible".


The "get stupid" bit reminds me of Gwen Stefani a bit, I wonder if it was meant to be similar to her since Pharrell worked with Gwen and Gwen's been ripping off Madge's style since day one...

The second part of Incredible is...well...incredible! It's a shame it takes so long to get to that part because I'm sure a lot of people will skip it because of the BORING ASS first bit.
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Reply #29 posted 05/29/08 6:13am

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So basically, Madonna wasn't talented enough to sing it right, Pharrell called her on it, and she cried. Obviously after their little face to face Pharrell realized he was going to have to lower his standards and just accept that he was working with a lesser talent.
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