TotalAlisa said:

We have 2 consider also that Janet wasn't going to foot the bill of traveling across the country to promote an album on her own dime. I still think she could have done more creative things to promote the cd (Skype interviews/exclusive online performances/q&a with fans/more television interviews/etc).

banks said:

so no European dates?

daPrettyman said:

It's possible that the first-week sales (which weren't really that great) discouraged Janet and the record company.The entire project seems like it was rushed,with no game plan or valid promotional strategy.Same with the tour.It took forever for them just to announce all the dates.This is why I say Janet should look for a new management team....someone more aggressive,who will kick ass if necessary.Whoever is managing her right now is doing a lousy job.

janet to me was finished when she stopped playing Penny !
Ok...I'll take that back...She was Still Superbad when she played Willis' girlfriend...But, after that IE: when the singing thing got serious...
It was all Downhill !

SoulAlive said:

agree... well janet better hurry soon cause she is getting to be too old..

at this stage in her career... honestly she should have best treatment and priority...

Discipline is my favorite album this year so far.

I can't believe she is having label woes again. I thought IDJ really knew what they were doing - it seemed at the beginning that "Feedback" and its initial heat, the video, the hype were all on point...I don't know what happened. Three singles at once? "Rock With U," "Luv," "Cant Be Good?"

I find it curious that she chose to be on the same label as Mariah. They have their queen, their 90s diva that sells ridiculously well to the Wal Mart crowd. Why do they need Janet? To them, it was probably lets roll the dice, see what happens, and if she doesn't move X amount of units in X amount of time based on what we are willing to do, lets jump ship. I doubt she will do another LP for them.

I'm glad she's going back on the road and I'm glad she is diversifying - doing a book is a good start. She can act. I'm glad she's not just disappearing like she did on the last two projects that didn't match expectations.

From the start it seemed to me that Island had no idea what they were doing. First of L.A said this is an 'experiment' than the Feedback video came out and became a joke and there was no promotion at all in Europe, so most people did not know and still don't know the albums out. Virgin did a better job promoting 20Y0, there was posters on the Underground. A for me the album is not very pop/dance, so I waiting for it to go on sale, not to far.

badujunkie said:

It's tempting to blame the record company and their flawed promotional strategy but there are other problems as well.I think people are just tired of what Janet is offering.If she would go in a whole new direction and try some new sounds,who knows? It could reinvigorate her career.I also think Janet is surrounded by ineffective people who are giving her the wrong advice,including her boyfriend.



Yeah she made a huge mistake by going to Def Jam.LA Reid is alot like Clive Davis.....he's a control freak who only cares about selling alot of records.He takes total control of a project,picks the songs and producers,etc.But if the artist isn't selling alot of records,he pushes it aside.In his mind,'Discipline' isn't worthy of any more promotion.It's already forgotten and buried.Why would Janet wanna align herself with someone like that? Someone who gives up on a project when it doesn't sell X amount of copies during the first week.



In this era of declining CD sales,she would be wise to do other projects.She should tour more often and maybe do a Broadway stint.It would also be a good idea to not release a new CD for awhile.Take some time,travel the world,listen to other producers and sounds.

she should have a baby - make it a reality show

paper said:

JD works for Island. Janet would do better not to let JD make her business decisions.

TotalAlisa said:

you must be like 18 or 20 because youngins are the only ones who think 40 is "old"

Evvy said:

Uh...no

ehuffnsd said:

Ever since she's been listening to JD,her career has been going downhill.He wants her to abandon her pop base and become an "urban" artist.I bet it was his brilliant idea to have Khia (a worthless one-hit wonder rapper) appear on one of her recent singles.

SoulAlive said:

Janet isn't urban and it would be a fake. She's a child of privilage grew up in Encio and has never had to worry or go without. She should stick with what works with for her and thats RnB flavored Dance/Pop

Urban Janet is as convincing as I was playing straight in high school the only person i was fooling was myself.
[Edited 6/9/08 6:24am]

ehuffnsd said:

it's like when she starred in that movie with Tupac....I was like "wtf....this girl grew up Encino,California!!" With maids and butlers, lol

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[Edited 6/9/08 6:32am]

ButterscotchPimp said:

Plus, she has youngsters delving into the Minneapolis Sound while Janet and Prince abandon it....to sound like everyone else..

They better get back to there sound before its too late.

Really... Nobody is selling CDs like the 90's anymore.. Now that the record companies are getting some of the tour $$$$, why even stress promotion and videos..

The videos are the CD! Why go to the store, when hit videos can be had by remote?

"Video Killed The Radio Star!"

SoulAlive said:

According to Janet and Rebbie, they didn't have a big staff. Their Mom made them all do housework....inside and out.

daPrettyman said:

Except La Toya, right?

Timmy84 said:

I'm sure LaToya was included in that too. She may be a "ho", but the girl knows how to hustle and make a dollar....hell, all of them adopted that philosophy.

Def Jam issued the following statement on June 9 through a company spokesperson:

"Unfortunately, we haven't experienced the results we would have liked with this new album. But we respect and support Janet. The label has nothing to do with Janet's tour."

(Source: Reuters)

Copycat said:

Damn.

JackieBlue said:

i wonder what does she do from here

ehuffnsd said:

Same here. I really don't know. I guess touring is better than nothing.

Copycat said:

here is the whole article:

http://www.billboard.com/...1003813980

this whole project seemed weird to begin with. automatically going to her boyfriends label who was forced to quit at Virgin. Janet not having any input on the song writing, and Reid stating in an interview how much guidance Janet needed cuz she was not sure what she wanted., no assistance from JJ and TL?????
[Edited 6/9/08 14:51pm]

What a mess! Janet is gonna have to think about where she goes from here.She's on a record label that doesn't give a damn about her.

SoulAlive said:

i don't think any record label cares. they want numbers and if you don't produce the numbers, they shut it down.

Did she sign for many years? I wonder if we're going to see them prematurely part ways and if so, where will she go then?

'Discipline' hasn't even reached gold status here in the States.Even in this era of declining CD sales,that's pretty bad.After the tour ends,Janet's gonna have to sit down and re-evaluate alot of things.She's gonna have to make some drastic changes.

I don't see why she can't tour Europe,despite the "dwindling label support".The label has nothing to do with her tour

SoulAlive said:

FYI, the original quote:

"I've heard people talking about me not coming to Europe in support of the record just to let them know that it was definitely in my heart to go to Europe and to support this album but it's about teamwork, it's not something I can totally do on my own. Unfortunately things have turned out the way that they have with the differences between the label and myself, which we have been having for the most part from the beginning. So I just want to tell them again thank you very much for all the love and all the support and I they understand the entire situation and I'm really excited to see everybody on tour. I'm really looking forward to that it's going to be a lot of fun."

She was talking about the European promotional tour for the album, not the Rock Witchu tour. The article can't even get the tour kickoff date correct, so why should any of the quotes be in their proper context?

The album is eligible for gold certification (it's shipped 500k). The label simply hasn't bothered.
[Edited 6/9/08 15:20pm]

JackieBlue said:

For some reason, I don't think the label offered her a big contract.

This situation reminds me of Mariah when she first signed to IDJ. Charmbracelet was FLOP. IDJ tried to do the damage control after the Glitter disaster, but didn't make it. It wasn't until Mimi that they found the right combination. Remember, Mimi didn't start off selling well either. It wasn't until after We Belong Together skyrocketed that the album took off.

If IDJ wants to continue to work with J, they are going to have to use the same strategy. Come up with some good songs, change her image and get HIT songs and not mediocre songs/videos.