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Thread started 05/17/08 7:18am

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redone working with michael jackson..

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Producer RedOne is spending a lot of time in Las Vegas these days, supposedly working on an album with Michael Jackson, which he can’t talk about.

“Honestly, I’m not allowed to talk about Michael at all,” says RedOne, who was born Nadir Khayat in Morocco and now calls Los Angeles home. “I just love him. I’m a big fan of his. There’s something going on, but I can’t talk about it.”

What RedOne can say is he’s spending a lot of time in the recording studio at the Palms.
“The studio, it’s incredible. The sound is amazing,” he says. “And so is Las Vegas. I love Las Vegas. We get a lot of peace of mind in Las Vegas. It’s very nice. It feels good working in Vegas. It’s very convenient, so close to L.A. It’s like a dream world that helps you musically and creatively.”

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http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/ma ... real-show/



whats up with the silence , i dont get why nobody is alowed to speak about it. but if he continues this pace, dr dre , guns and roses will have there album out quicker then michael
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Reply #1 posted 05/17/08 9:46am

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here we go again lol another producer "hints" that he is working with Michael and yet he can't give out too many details,lol.

Why doesn't Michael go on his official site and issue a statement? Let fans know what's going on.Why be so secretive about it?
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Reply #2 posted 05/17/08 12:19pm

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SoulAlive said:

here we go again lol another producer "hints" that he is working with Michael and yet he can't give out too many details,lol.

Why doesn't Michael go on his official site and issue a statement? Let fans know what's going on.Why be so secretive about it?

I agree, although I think the reason may be what happened to Invincible

You want me to give you the full story?
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Reply #3 posted 05/17/08 12:25pm

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

SoulAlive said:

here we go again lol another producer "hints" that he is working with Michael and yet he can't give out too many details,lol.

Why doesn't Michael go on his official site and issue a statement? Let fans know what's going on.Why be so secretive about it?

I agree, although I think the reason may be what happened to Invincible

You want me to give you the full story?


Invincible went through a whole lot of shit. Spill it to SoulAlive. lol
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Reply #4 posted 05/17/08 12:37pm

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“The studio, it’s incredible. The sound is amazing,”
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Reply #5 posted 05/17/08 1:23pm

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Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:


I agree, although I think the reason may be what happened to Invincible

You want me to give you the full story?


Invincible went through a whole lot of shit. Spill it to SoulAlive. lol

Michael worked on Invincible from 1998 to early 2001. People were coming out of the woodwork talking about how they were were working with Michael, throwing out songtitles and everything. Sisquo said he was doing a duet with Michael called "The Gloved One", only to find out he submitted the song to Michael, but he turned it down. Coolio, Will Smith, and ALOT of acts came out saying they were working with Michael, then we found out around mid '01 that the main producers on the album were Rodney Jerkins and Teddy Riley with additional work with Babyface, R. Kelly and such

It was a mess lol
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Reply #6 posted 05/17/08 1:32pm

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bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:



Invincible went through a whole lot of shit. Spill it to SoulAlive. lol

Michael worked on Invincible from 1998 to early 2001. People were coming out of the woodwork talking about how they were were working with Michael, throwing out songtitles and everything. Sisquo said he was doing a duet with Michael called "The Gloved One", only to find out he submitted the song to Michael, but he turned it down. Coolio, Will Smith, and ALOT of acts came out saying they were working with Michael, then we found out around mid '01 that the main producers on the album were Rodney Jerkins and Teddy Riley with additional work with Babyface, R. Kelly and such

It was a mess lol

lol, but isn't that the exact same thing that's happening now? That's why I keep pointing out to the over excited fans that a lot of these names they keep throwing up have actually done nothing more than SUBMIT tracks to Michael. In the case of Akon they often get over excited and start talking in interviews about Michael, and the result is his fans get confused. That's why you've got to be able to read carefully when these people are talking.
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Reply #7 posted 05/17/08 1:39pm

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bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:



Invincible went through a whole lot of shit. Spill it to SoulAlive. lol

Michael worked on Invincible from 1998 to early 2001. People were coming out of the woodwork talking about how they were were working with Michael, throwing out songtitles and everything. Sisquo said he was doing a duet with Michael called "The Gloved One", only to find out he submitted the song to Michael, but he turned it down. Coolio, Will Smith, and ALOT of acts came out saying they were working with Michael, then we found out around mid '01 that the main producers on the album were Rodney Jerkins and Teddy Riley with additional work with Babyface, R. Kelly and such

It was a mess lol

Wasn't the Will Smith collaboration supposed to be something with Tatiana Ali and Will along with MJ? I remember reading an interview with Will where he said he hoped that the song made the album, but I see it didn't (or was never started).
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Reply #8 posted 05/17/08 1:51pm

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midnightmover said:

bboy87 said:


Michael worked on Invincible from 1998 to early 2001. People were coming out of the woodwork talking about how they were were working with Michael, throwing out songtitles and everything. Sisquo said he was doing a duet with Michael called "The Gloved One", only to find out he submitted the song to Michael, but he turned it down. Coolio, Will Smith, and ALOT of acts came out saying they were working with Michael, then we found out around mid '01 that the main producers on the album were Rodney Jerkins and Teddy Riley with additional work with Babyface, R. Kelly and such

It was a mess lol

lol, but isn't that the exact same thing that's happening now? That's why I keep pointing out to the over excited fans that a lot of these names they keep throwing up have actually done nothing more than SUBMIT tracks to Michael. In the case of Akon they often get over excited and start talking in interviews about Michael, and the result is his fans get confused. That's why you've got to be able to read carefully when these people are talking.

You're right, but it really isn't the fans. These guys go and brag about how they're working with Michael yet they're only submitting tracks. The press goes and runs with it and the fans definitely get confused, especially the young fans. The older fans say the same I'm saying, they're only SUBMITTING tracks and are used to people running to them to collaborate, but that isn't the case with Michael Jackson lol

The young fans say "OMG, he's submitting tracks! They're gonna work together! YAY!"

Me and Timmy see it ALL THE TIME lol
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Reply #9 posted 05/17/08 1:52pm

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daPrettyman said:

bboy87 said:


Michael worked on Invincible from 1998 to early 2001. People were coming out of the woodwork talking about how they were were working with Michael, throwing out songtitles and everything. Sisquo said he was doing a duet with Michael called "The Gloved One", only to find out he submitted the song to Michael, but he turned it down. Coolio, Will Smith, and ALOT of acts came out saying they were working with Michael, then we found out around mid '01 that the main producers on the album were Rodney Jerkins and Teddy Riley with additional work with Babyface, R. Kelly and such

It was a mess lol

Wasn't the Will Smith collaboration supposed to be something with Tatiana Ali and Will along with MJ? I remember reading an interview with Will where he said he hoped that the song made the album, but I see it didn't (or was never started).

I remember reading Will say they going to do a duet, but it was never released

I still want to hear the Lenny Kravitz collaborations. They did 2 songs together, "Another Day" and "Crush"
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Reply #10 posted 05/17/08 1:53pm

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bboy87 said:

daPrettyman said:


Wasn't the Will Smith collaboration supposed to be something with Tatiana Ali and Will along with MJ? I remember reading an interview with Will where he said he hoped that the song made the album, but I see it didn't (or was never started).

I remember reading Will say they going to do a duet, but it was never released

I still want to hear the Lenny Kravitz collaborations. They did 2 songs together, "Another Day" and "Crush"

Hell, at this point in MJ's career, he should do a vault type album that covers his career from The Jacksons to present. That way, he can get some more cashflow and possible have some big hits. "Love Never Felt So Good" could be huge with the right mix.
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Reply #11 posted 05/17/08 2:01pm

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daPrettyman said:

bboy87 said:


I remember reading Will say they going to do a duet, but it was never released

I still want to hear the Lenny Kravitz collaborations. They did 2 songs together, "Another Day" and "Crush"

Hell, at this point in MJ's career, he should do a vault type album that covers his career from The Jacksons to present. That way, he can get some more cashflow and possible have some big hits. "Love Never Felt So Good" could be huge with the right mix.

Yep

I'm also finding more unreleased songs out there, especially J5 songs.

There's an audio recording of The Victory Tour in LA that's just surfaced
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Reply #12 posted 05/17/08 2:05pm

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bboy87 said:

daPrettyman said:


Hell, at this point in MJ's career, he should do a vault type album that covers his career from The Jacksons to present. That way, he can get some more cashflow and possible have some big hits. "Love Never Felt So Good" could be huge with the right mix.

Yep

I'm also finding more unreleased songs out there, especially J5 songs.

There's an audio recording of The Victory Tour in LA that's just surfaced

I know there are tons of J5 songs that were unreleased. They recorded around 1000 songs (or more..Corey knows) during their time with Motown. That's why they released all of those MJ compilations in the 80s with new trax.

I wish they would release the Victory tour on DVD and cd. That would be soo cool. Especially to commemorate the 25th or 30th anniversary of the show.
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Reply #13 posted 05/17/08 2:44pm

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bboy87 said:

midnightmover said:


lol, but isn't that the exact same thing that's happening now? That's why I keep pointing out to the over excited fans that a lot of these names they keep throwing up have actually done nothing more than SUBMIT tracks to Michael. In the case of Akon they often get over excited and start talking in interviews about Michael, and the result is his fans get confused. That's why you've got to be able to read carefully when these people are talking.

You're right, but it really isn't the fans. These guys go and brag about how they're working with Michael yet they're only submitting tracks. The press goes and runs with it and the fans definitely get confused, especially the young fans. The older fans say the same I'm saying, they're only SUBMITTING tracks and are used to people running to them to collaborate, but that isn't the case with Michael Jackson lol

The young fans say "OMG, he's submitting tracks! They're gonna work together! YAY!"

Me and Timmy see it ALL THE TIME lol


Yeah it's like "oh for real?" and just move on to something next. It's hard to be excited about anything like this. lol
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Reply #14 posted 05/18/08 8:32am

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I think it's clear now that Akon is to MJ's new album what Rodney Jerkins was to Invincible and what Teddy Riley was to Dangerous. The majority of everyone else who have said they have worked with MJ wont make the album while some of them like will.i.am, Ne-Yo and RedOne might have one or two songs on the album. But Akon's the main dude helping out MJ. Lately we've been hearing less and less about will.i.am and more and more about Akon. Will may have been MJ's main main this time last year, but Akon has taken over now. Akon said himself something along the lines of "I'm pretty much doing everything on MJ's new album" and Ryan Seacrest (whether you agree he's a reputable source or not) said MJ has hand-picked Akon to mastermind his new album. So I think it's fair to just ignore every other fool that comes out saying they are working with MJ. Akon's working with MJ, and will.i.am has worked on some stuff that might be on MJ's new album. Everyone else are just Wyclef Jean types IMO.
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Reply #15 posted 05/18/08 8:41am

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Some people never learn. The only person who's hyping up Akon's role on MJ's album is Akon himself. He was also saying similar things about Madonna's album this time last year and nothing ever came of it. RedOne's quote sounds far more credible than Akon's over-excited nonsense. And Ryan Seacrest? Is that a joke?
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Reply #16 posted 05/18/08 9:34am

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DarlingDiana said:

I think it's clear now that Akon is to MJ's new album what Rodney Jerkins was to Invincible and what Teddy Riley was to Dangerous. The majority of everyone else who have said they have worked with MJ wont make the album while some of them like will.i.am, Ne-Yo and RedOne might have one or two songs on the album. But Akon's the main dude helping out MJ. Lately we've been hearing less and less about will.i.am and more and more about Akon. Will may have been MJ's main main this time last year, but Akon has taken over now. Akon said himself something along the lines of "I'm pretty much doing everything on MJ's new album" and Ryan Seacrest (whether you agree he's a reputable source or not) said MJ has hand-picked Akon to mastermind his new album. So I think it's fair to just ignore every other fool that comes out saying they are working with MJ. Akon's working with MJ, and will.i.am has worked on some stuff that might be on MJ's new album. Everyone else are just Wyclef Jean types IMO.


I doubt Akon will be masterminding anything. I'm not buying that Akon is gonna be the main producer on the album. I mean MJ likes to work with established producers so why would he choose Akon of all people to oversee his new album? I think Akon is much too arrogant and has talked way too much about his involvement, which is something I don't think MJ appreciates. I wouldn't be suprised if he didn't end up making it onto the album afterall.
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Reply #17 posted 05/18/08 9:39am

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Cinnamon234 said:

DarlingDiana said:

I think it's clear now that Akon is to MJ's new album what Rodney Jerkins was to Invincible and what Teddy Riley was to Dangerous. The majority of everyone else who have said they have worked with MJ wont make the album while some of them like will.i.am, Ne-Yo and RedOne might have one or two songs on the album. But Akon's the main dude helping out MJ. Lately we've been hearing less and less about will.i.am and more and more about Akon. Will may have been MJ's main main this time last year, but Akon has taken over now. Akon said himself something along the lines of "I'm pretty much doing everything on MJ's new album" and Ryan Seacrest (whether you agree he's a reputable source or not) said MJ has hand-picked Akon to mastermind his new album. So I think it's fair to just ignore every other fool that comes out saying they are working with MJ. Akon's working with MJ, and will.i.am has worked on some stuff that might be on MJ's new album. Everyone else are just Wyclef Jean types IMO.


I doubt Akon will be masterminding anything. I'm not buying that Akon is gonna be the main producer on the album. I mean MJ likes to work with established producers so why would he choose Akon of all people to oversee his new album? I think Akon is much too arrogant and has talked way too much about his involvement, which is something I don't think MJ appreciates. I wouldn't be suprised if he didn't end up making it onto the album afterall.
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Exactly.
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Reply #18 posted 05/18/08 10:17am

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Someone sent me this La Toya interview, where she talks on Michael and him working now and it does not sound like he "really" works. I don´t know when this interview took place though and she looks bad in this one.

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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #19 posted 05/18/08 10:20am

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Cinnamon234 said:

DarlingDiana said:

I think it's clear now that Akon is to MJ's new album what Rodney Jerkins was to Invincible and what Teddy Riley was to Dangerous. The majority of everyone else who have said they have worked with MJ wont make the album while some of them like will.i.am, Ne-Yo and RedOne might have one or two songs on the album. But Akon's the main dude helping out MJ. Lately we've been hearing less and less about will.i.am and more and more about Akon. Will may have been MJ's main main this time last year, but Akon has taken over now. Akon said himself something along the lines of "I'm pretty much doing everything on MJ's new album" and Ryan Seacrest (whether you agree he's a reputable source or not) said MJ has hand-picked Akon to mastermind his new album. So I think it's fair to just ignore every other fool that comes out saying they are working with MJ. Akon's working with MJ, and will.i.am has worked on some stuff that might be on MJ's new album. Everyone else are just Wyclef Jean types IMO.


I doubt Akon will be masterminding anything. I'm not buying that Akon is gonna be the main producer on the album. I mean MJ likes to work with established producers so why would he choose Akon of all people to oversee his new album? I think Akon is much too arrogant and has talked way too much about his involvement, which is something I don't think MJ appreciates. I wouldn't be suprised if he didn't end up making it onto the album afterall.
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