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Thread started 05/01/08 1:59pm

DiamondGlove

Musican with the wisest lyrics

Which artist (or band) do you think write or have the best lyrics. Lyrics that make you think about life, love, sorrow, joy etc... Lyrics that you can learn lessons from.
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Reply #1 posted 05/01/08 2:01pm

emilio319

DiamondGlove said:

Which artist (or band) do you think write or have the best lyrics. Lyrics that make you think about life, love, sorrow, joy etc... Lyrics that you can learn lessons from.



Without a doubt, Sananda Maitreya (formerly known as Terence Trent D'arby).
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Reply #2 posted 05/01/08 2:04pm

JoeTyler

Pointless
tinkerbell
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Reply #3 posted 05/01/08 2:07pm

GangstaFam

Wisest? Probably Joni. Or Stevie.
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Reply #4 posted 05/01/08 2:10pm

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Bob Dylan
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Reply #5 posted 05/01/08 2:15pm

Miles

More a genre than a band, I'd say listening to good blues lyrics can give you a guide to most things in life ... smile
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Reply #6 posted 05/01/08 2:19pm

Imago

Gosh, a combination of folks



Mary Chapin Carpenter -- always has something to say about social and personal things. Great songwriter and singer


Vic Chestnut - when he's not being too weird, he writes some beautiful things


Peter Murphy - Subway, I'll Fall with Your Knife, Strange Kind of Love--the list goes on and on.


Tracy Chapman - You can pick out a gem from any of her albums. Any single one of them.


Bob Dylan - If he doesn't get mentioned then wacky

I'm going to get laughed at for this but Alanis Morrisette's "Supposed former Infatuation Junkie" had all manner of spiritual ponderings that spoke to me and seemed wise way way beyond her years--especially the "Would not Come" song.


Simon & Garfunkle - drool music drool


Bruce Springsteen - I can't get enough of him.




so so many though. It's not just that they pick the perfect words..I mean, Ani De Franco can do THAT. It's that they apply the words to just the right tune or just the right musical 'moment' so effortlessly most of them.

Sometimes Prince does this, but more times than not, his words...when he's trying to say something, either get muddled, or they're drowned in some silly chorus.
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Reply #7 posted 05/01/08 2:29pm

Sweeny79

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Paul Simon
Bob Dylan
Ani Difranco
In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular.
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Reply #8 posted 05/01/08 2:48pm

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The wryest, slyest and skillfull for my money...



...Steely Dan



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Reply #9 posted 05/01/08 3:44pm

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joni.bob.neil.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #10 posted 05/01/08 5:07pm

DiamondGlove

I also think PM Dawn are up there. I love most of the lyrics in their song. Very wise.
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Reply #11 posted 05/01/08 5:08pm

Cinnie

GangstaFam said:

Wisest? Probably Joni. Or Stevie.


Ditto.
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Reply #12 posted 05/01/08 5:10pm

Anxiety

david (bowie or byrne, that is) and john (lennon, that is).
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Reply #13 posted 05/01/08 5:14pm

MsLegs

Miles said:

More a genre than a band, I'd say listening to good blues lyrics can give you a guide to most things in life ... smile

thumbs up!Dig. Blues sooths and educates at the same time.
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Reply #14 posted 05/01/08 8:49pm

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Curtis Mayfield.

Marvin Gaye
"You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD
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Reply #15 posted 05/01/08 8:51pm

Timmy84

Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Curtis Mayfield, Bob Marley, Bob Dylan, John Lennon, David Bowie and Sam Cooke.
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Reply #16 posted 05/01/08 9:00pm

baroque

morrissey, sometimes arrogant, sometimes whiney, but his logic SOMETIMES does ring quite truthfully. but then again he writes with oscar wilde hand.
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Reply #17 posted 05/01/08 9:34pm

MsLegs

Cat Stevens
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Cinnie

Chuck D
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Reply #19 posted 05/02/08 2:21am

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baroque said:

morrissey, sometimes arrogant, sometimes whiney, but his logic SOMETIMES does ring quite truthfully. but then again he writes with oscar wilde hand.


Agreed- Morrissey is one of the best lyricists- you can actually sit and read the lyrics to the album "The Queen Is Dead" and it has the same emotional punch as a good book- but it's amazing what he can say in just a few lines rather than over the course of a chapter.
"There is no such thing in life as normal..."
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Reply #20 posted 05/02/08 2:33am

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Bruce Springsteen is one of the best I reckon....


....its been said that he can say more with one line than most others can say in one song.
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Reply #21 posted 05/02/08 2:36am

Cinnie

stevenpottle said:

baroque said:

morrissey, sometimes arrogant, sometimes whiney, but his logic SOMETIMES does ring quite truthfully. but then again he writes with oscar wilde hand.


Agreed- Morrissey is one of the best lyricists- you can actually sit and read the lyrics to the album "The Queen Is Dead" and it has the same emotional punch as a good book- but it's amazing what he can say in just a few lines rather than over the course of a chapter.


Totally with ya there, Pottle. smile
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Reply #22 posted 05/02/08 5:06am

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Joan Armatrading. smile
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Reply #23 posted 05/02/08 5:16am

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"The government is coming and it wants to be your friend,
It wants to show you how to be a snitch
Inform upon your children, the inevitable end,
Is everyone's a victim but the filthy fucking rich,
And religion, like the monster that it is
Keeps telling you to turn the other cheek
God is on your side, but I don't think that you're on his,
If Jesus showed up now he'd be in jail by next week"



That's a sample lyric from, of all people, Lemmy.

I actually think he's a damn fine lyricist, it's just that all most people remember is "Ace of Spades"
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Reply #24 posted 05/02/08 5:21am

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theAudience said:

The wryest, slyest and skillfull for my money...



...Steely Dan



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peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431


You beat me to it.....some of he wisest and most intellectual lyrics.....

cool
"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive."
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Reply #25 posted 05/02/08 5:49am

DarlingDiana



Some children died the other day
We fed machines and then we prayed
Puked up and down in morbid faith
You should have seen the ratings that day
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Reply #26 posted 05/02/08 6:08am

midnightmover

Well, I have to admit, the single wisest line I ever heard in a song was written by Liverpudlian wife beater John Lennon. In "All You Need Is Love" he said, "There's nowhere you can be that isn't where you're meant to be". No-one else has written a single line as profound and true as that, but on a general level I'd have to say Joni, Paul Simon, and Stevie are the wisest writers I can think of.
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
- Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #27 posted 05/02/08 6:26am

RipHer2Shreds

There are a lot of great lyricists, but the first one off the tip of my tongue is Leonard Cohen.
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Reply #28 posted 05/02/08 6:30am

midnightmover

stevenpottle said:

baroque said:

morrissey, sometimes arrogant, sometimes whiney, but his logic SOMETIMES does ring quite truthfully. but then again he writes with oscar wilde hand.


Agreed- Morrissey is one of the best lyricists- you can actually sit and read the lyrics to the album "The Queen Is Dead" and it has the same emotional punch as a good book- but it's amazing what he can say in just a few lines rather than over the course of a chapter.

The thread is about wise lyrics. Morrissey writes great lyrics, but I wouldn't call them wise. I'd call them arch, funny, clever, honest, but not wise.
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
- Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #29 posted 05/02/08 6:36am

midnightmover

Imago said:

Gosh, a combination of folks



Mary Chapin Carpenter -- always has something to say about social and personal things. Great songwriter and singer


Vic Chestnut - when he's not being too weird, he writes some beautiful things


Peter Murphy - Subway, I'll Fall with Your Knife, Strange Kind of Love--the list goes on and on.


Tracy Chapman - You can pick out a gem from any of her albums. Any single one of them.


Bob Dylan - If he doesn't get mentioned then wacky

I'm going to get laughed at for this but Alanis Morrisette's "Supposed former Infatuation Junkie" had all manner of spiritual ponderings that spoke to me and seemed wise way way beyond her years--especially the "Would not Come" song.


Simon & Garfunkle - drool music drool


Bruce Springsteen - I can't get enough of him.




so so many though. It's not just that they pick the perfect words..I mean, Ani De Franco can do THAT. It's that they apply the words to just the right tune or just the right musical 'moment' so effortlessly most of them.

Sometimes Prince does this, but more times than not, his words...when he's trying to say something, either get muddled, or they're drowned in some silly chorus.

I love Dylan, but he's written some dumb, wrongheaded songs like "Joey", "Lenny Bruce" and dozens more, which disqualify him from being listed as too wise a lyricist.

I agree that Alanis Morrisette is/was a BRILLIANT lyricist. It's shocking how overlooked she is when people talk about great songwriters. Her work went downhill in the '00s, but for a while there, she was bringing the heat big time.
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
- Thomas Jefferson
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