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Thread started 01/26/07 7:03pm

GangstaFam

David Bowie's "The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars" Album Survivor Round 1...He was the Nazz!!

What can I even say about this album?

Early in Bowie's career he jumped from style to style covering Anthony Newley styled dancehall ditties, unwashed and somewhat slightly dazed hippy schlock and Mod-ish pop-rock. Even with the proto-metal paranoia of "The Man Who Sold The World" and the singer-songwriter cabaret pop confection of "Hunky Dory", his genre shifting came off as a desperate attempt to fit into ANY musical niche. This wasn't the restless experimentalism of his late 70's. This was Bowie trying to distinguish himself and find his voice.

Sometime in early '72, he chopped off the Garbo do, ditched the bipperty bopperty hats and took on his first fully formed character. Although much of the Ziggy material was conceived concurrently with Hunky Dory, the music has its own theme, mood and vision. Long before the red hair dye, the kabuki constumes, the shaved eyebrows and the guitar fellatio, he clearly was on a mission and knew what he wanted to do with this beast called Ziggy. So complete was this persona that it took him nearly 3 years to shake it off.

The music was leaner, sharper and at the same time more universal than anything he'd created so far. The razor guitars, shrill Cockney vocals and nearly punk energy would define a genre and a million followers. If Bolan invented 'Glam Rock', Bowie perfected it. The themes of future dystopia, gender politics and sexual freedom are as radical and relevant now as they were in 1972. Although the storyline seems a bit quaint today, the epic scope and sheer theatricality put his message across in a way that few other albums, or artists can. Any stage fright or artistic self-doubt had clearly disappeared.

I had a religious experience with this album. I won't get into that now, and I'll save any further rambling for future posts. But aside from Low, this is MY Bowie. He would go on to make smarter, tougher rock music. His image would become even wilder and more daring over the following years. But there is an innocence and beauty found on Ziggy Stardust missing from all of his future work. He would never make something this crystal clear again, and for that it stands as his most important and perhaps most influential work. Perfection.


So on with the show! I'm assuming that you all know how to play.

*Choose the 1 song that you like the least and want voted off.

Here are the contestants:

1. Five Years
2. Soul Love
3. Moonage Daydream
4. Starman
5. It Ain't Easy
6. Lady Stardust
7. Star
8. Hang Onto Yourself
9. Ziggy Stardust
10. Suffragette City
11. Rock 'N' Roll Suicide


You know it's a classic album when you don't even have to look at the packaging to know the exact titles and tracklist. wink

Here we have a fresh-faced Ziggy debuting his new thing on the Old Grey Whistle Test. This was well before the heavy makeup and rooster mullet. Things would only get more interesting from here...




love love love


ROUND CLOSED
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Reply #1 posted 01/26/07 7:25pm

GangstaFam



worship
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Reply #2 posted 01/26/07 7:52pm

NorthernLad

I guess I'll start cool


It Ain't Easy
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Reply #3 posted 01/26/07 7:52pm

GangstaFam

NorthernLad said:

It Ain't Easy

yes it is.
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Reply #4 posted 01/26/07 7:53pm

NorthernLad

GangstaFam said:

NorthernLad said:

It Ain't Easy

yes it is.


well this one was. After that... it ain't. cool
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Reply #5 posted 01/26/07 7:54pm

GangstaFam

NorthernLad said:

well this one was. After that... it ain't. cool

I was thinking the same thing.

"Hunky Dory" was easy to call. I had the top 5 and bottom 3 almost nailed. I have no idea how this one will go.
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Reply #6 posted 01/26/07 7:57pm

NorthernLad

GangstaFam said:

NorthernLad said:

well this one was. After that... it ain't. cool

I was thinking the same thing.

"Hunky Dory" was easy to call. I had the top 5 and bottom 3 almost nailed. I have no idea how this one will go.



Yeah this one will be VERY interesting near the end... I really have no idea what to predict. I'm not even sure at this point what I will pick for my faves, heh. Such a strong album.

I wish he had used "Velvet Goldmine" in place of "It Ain't Easy" though. Or was "All the Young Dudes" written at that point? maybe that was later....
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Reply #7 posted 01/26/07 8:01pm

damosuzuki

it ain't easy
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Reply #8 posted 01/26/07 8:06pm

sallysassalot

lady stardust
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Reply #9 posted 01/26/07 8:06pm

GangstaFam

NorthernLad said:

Yeah this one will be VERY interesting near the end... I really have no idea what to predict. I'm not even sure at this point what I will pick for my faves, heh. Such a strong album.

I wish he had used "Velvet Goldmine" in place of "It Ain't Easy" though. Or was "All the Young Dudes" written at that point? maybe that was later....

Velvet Goldmine would be awesome on there. I'd put it somewhere near "Hang Onto Yourself".

"Dudes" I believe was written more with the Aladdin batch.
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Reply #10 posted 01/26/07 8:07pm

Untouchable

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Kooks, that was def alot of work to have timeout. So glad it's back. There's nothing like being a specatator for survivor. Moonsong must come forward and choose!
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Reply #11 posted 01/26/07 8:09pm

NorthernLad

sallysassalot said:

lady stardust



eek I didn't think i'd see Ms. Stardust this early cool
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Reply #12 posted 01/26/07 8:11pm

GangstaFam

Untouchable said:

Kooks, that was def alot of work to have timeout. So glad it's back. There's nothing like being a specatator for survivor. Moonsong must come forward and choose!

I believe she's doing her homework as we speak. wink
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Reply #13 posted 01/26/07 8:11pm

GangstaFam

NorthernLad said:

eek I didn't think i'd see Ms. Stardust this early cool

Strangely a lot of people hate that song. I don't get it.
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Reply #14 posted 01/26/07 9:00pm

MoonSongs

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This truly hurts my heart
It Ain't Easy
Music is the language of the spirit. It opens the secret of life bringing peace, abolishing strife. --Kahlil Gibran
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Reply #15 posted 01/26/07 9:02pm

GangstaFam

MoonSongs said:

This truly hurts my heart
It Ain't Easy

You're playing!

woot!

hug
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Reply #16 posted 01/26/07 9:08pm

MoonSongs

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GangstaFam said:

MoonSongs said:

This truly hurts my heart
It Ain't Easy

You're playing!

woot!

hug


unhappily ~ how in the world can anybody CHOOSE a song to kick outta here? I mean, seriously! cool
Music is the language of the spirit. It opens the secret of life bringing peace, abolishing strife. --Kahlil Gibran
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Reply #17 posted 01/26/07 9:31pm

Moonbeam

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"It Ain't Easy" is the easy choice.
Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you!
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Reply #18 posted 01/26/07 9:51pm

Axchi696

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It Ain't Easy.
I'm the first mammal to wear pants.
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Reply #19 posted 01/26/07 10:32pm

sallysassalot

NorthernLad said:

sallysassalot said:

lady stardust



eek I didn't think i'd see Ms. Stardust this early cool

and i didn't realize it ain't easy was the low man on this totum pole. i've always really liked it.
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Reply #20 posted 01/26/07 10:34pm

CinisterCee

K. West
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Reply #21 posted 01/26/07 10:58pm

NDRU

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Oh how I wish It Ain't Easy was the weakest of 11 of my songs
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Reply #22 posted 01/27/07 12:12am

GangstaFam

CinisterCee said:

K. West

Yes. Please get rid of Kanye West!
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Reply #23 posted 01/27/07 12:15am

GangstaFam

sallysassalot said:

and i didn't realize it ain't easy was the low man on this totum pole. i've always really liked it.

I really like it too. But it's a cover. And it sounds a little out of place. It fits more with some of the bluesier moments on "The Man Who Sold The World" and the Arnold Corns stuff. It's hard to understand how and why it was included on Ziggy.

He once said of an outtake called "Black Hole Kids" that he must've been high when compiling the album because he has no idea why it wasn't included.

I'm highly intrigued.
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Reply #24 posted 01/27/07 12:16am

GangstaFam

MoonSongs said:

unhappily ~ how in the world can anybody CHOOSE a song to kick outta here? I mean, seriously! cool

Ian's brainwashed me to think like a statistician! lol
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Reply #25 posted 01/27/07 3:08am

Anx

sallysassalot said:

NorthernLad said:




eek I didn't think i'd see Ms. Stardust this early cool

and i didn't realize it ain't easy was the low man on this totum pole. i've always really liked it.


ya don't say. i've never pictured you as the contrarian type. lol

that said, i'm choosing 'lady stardust' too...i love everything on this album, but this one does the least for me.
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Reply #26 posted 01/27/07 3:31am

novabrkr

It Ain't Easy

Has no place on this album, sounds like a Space Oddity session outtake.
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Reply #27 posted 01/27/07 3:43am

calldapplwonde
ry83

Soul Love


nana
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Reply #28 posted 01/27/07 7:09am

Shapeshifter

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Easy: It Ain't Easy.
There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently
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Reply #29 posted 01/27/07 8:21am

pacey68

It Ain't Easy. Some classics on this album, not much filler so who knows how this will play out?
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