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PrintableCloudbuster said: LightOfArt said: There are great songs on invincible. But many craps too. Like 2000 Watts. It's the first time MJ sang that low I think. But song sucks
Whatever Happens Speechless Butterflies Unbreakable You Rock My World the keepers I like 2000 Watts. True, when I first heard it I was like 
But then I played it LOUD.  i love that track. Loud is essential. i'm assuming he recorded it at a higher speed and then slowed it down for the album, right? | |
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TheFrog said: Cloudbuster said: I like 2000 Watts. True, when I first heard it I was like
But then I played it LOUD. i love that track. Loud is essential. Maybe I should give it a chance. | |
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TheFrog said: Cloudbuster said: I like 2000 Watts. True, when I first heard it I was like
But then I played it LOUD. i love that track. Loud is essential. i'm assuming he recorded it at a higher speed and then slowed it down for the album, right? Dunno. It's possible, but he does actually have a lower register. He just don't use it often.  | |
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LightOfArt said: Maybe I should give it a chance.
The music is much better than the actual song. That's what you should be listening to.  | |
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Cloudbuster said: jayaredee said: I dont mind invincible...
Funny. I remember you saying it was crap. funny, i dont know who the hell you are | |
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jayaredee said: Cloudbuster said: Funny. I remember you saying it was crap.
funny, i dont know who the hell you are Funny, neither do I. | |
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TheFrog said: jayaredee said: I disagree with you here, "Cry" was a bautiful track written by R.Kelly, much better than "one more chance." And it was a singles as well and a video was made for it (crappy one at that.) And i like the lost children, and he brings up a great point at the beginning at how "we sing songs for the wishing, for those who are kissing but not for the missing." IT shows how MJ really feels about kids.
That pretty much sums up why I think The Lost Children is   And naturally i disagree about Cry. It was a single true, but so was Mr Blobby. 
I dont mind invincible, i just think it was overproduced and too many friggin writers. There were some tracks where it took 5 people to write a song.
see, i don't care how many people write a song if it kicks ass. But those songs didn't kick ass.... | |
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Cloudbuster said: jayaredee said: funny, i dont know who the hell you are Funny, neither do I. then why did you mention what i said in the past? | |
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jayaredee said: then why did you mention what i said in the past?
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jayaredee said: TheFrog said: see, i don't care how many people write a song if it kicks ass. But those songs didn't kick ass.... okay. | |
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TheFrog said: okay.
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It think "Invincible" is the most underrated albums he has ever done. I'm thinking and I hope everyone agrees with me....even just as good as Thriller, which is the most overrated album. "It's not what they call you, it's what you respond to." - Mabel "Madea" Simmons | |
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one2three said: It think "Invincible" is the most underrated albums he has ever done. I'm thinking and I hope everyone agrees with me....even just as good as Thriller, which is the most overrated album.
Have you been to looney ville? Sorry this statement looks so wrong, so friggin wrong | |
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one2three said: It think "Invincible" is the most underrated albums he has ever done. I'm thinking and I hope everyone agrees with me....even just as good as Thriller, which is the most overrated album.
I think Bad is his most overrated album. And yet most "serious" music critics reckon that was his last decent work. Each to their own, I guess. | |
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one2three said: It think "Invincible" is the most underrated albums he has ever done. I'm thinking and I hope everyone agrees with me....even just as good as Thriller, which is the most overrated album.
I somewhat agree. He did better albums than Thriller. | |
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LightOfArt said: one2three said: It think "Invincible" is the most underrated albums he has ever done. I'm thinking and I hope everyone agrees with me....even just as good as Thriller, which is the most overrated album.
I somewhat agree. He did better albums than Thriller. Which ones? Dangerous yes but no others.... Thriller will always be the most highly remembered | |
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jayaredee said: LightOfArt said: I somewhat agree. He did better albums than Thriller.
Which ones? Dangerous yes but no others.... Thriller will always be the most highly remembered Off The Wall and Invincible are better albums. Or at least have more genuinely outstanding tracks. Possibly Dangerous, too. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin', Beat It and Billie Jean are the only real gems for me. The Girl Is Mine aside, the rest of Thriller is great pop music but not really outstanding songwriting. Just my opinion, of course. | |
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Cloudbuster said: one2three said: It think "Invincible" is the most underrated albums he has ever done. I'm thinking and I hope everyone agrees with me....even just as good as Thriller, which is the most overrated album.
I think Bad is his most overrated album. And yet most "serious" music critics reckon that was his last decent work. Each to their own, I guess. Oh no you didn't. Bad is like my favourite album of all time. Look past the 80's drum sounds people!
Invincible up to about track 8 is great. Flows well, great tracks. After that it gets a little messy. By the last 2 tracks the album starts kickin' again. | |
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WildStyle said: Oh no you didn't. Bad is like my favourite album of all time. Look past the 80's drum sounds people!
It ain't really the 80's production. It's just that apart from Smooth Criminal, The Way You Make Me Feel & Man In The Mirror I don't hear any truly great songs. It's a nice pop album, just a little too contrived. Too perfect, even. And extremely safe. The only real horrors on there are Leave Me Alone and Just Good Friends. Glad you like it, tho'. | |
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jayaredee said: LightOfArt said: I somewhat agree. He did better albums than Thriller. Which ones? Dangerous yes but no others.... Thriller will always be the most highly remembered Bad,Dangerous, HIStory and maybe Off The Wall too, are all better than Thriller in my honest opinion Oh no you didn't. Bad is like my favourite album of all time. Look past the 80's drum sounds people!
I agree. There's not ONE filler on it. Maybe Just Good Friends, but even that is listenable | |
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Cloudbuster said: WildStyle said: Oh no you didn't. Bad is like my favourite album of all time. Look past the 80's drum sounds people!
It ain't really the 80's production. It's just that apart from Smooth Criminal, The Way You Make Me Feel & Man In The Mirror I don't hear any truly great songs. It's a nice pop album, just a little too contrived. Too perfect, even. And extremely safe. The only real horrors on there are Leave Me Alone and Just Good Friends. Glad you like it, tho'. What about Liberian Girl? Dirty Diana? Speed Demon is a dope composition. Another Part Of Me? It wasn't safe. Safe would have been Thriller part II. Bad was anything but that. nah, that's cool. I just love that album too much | |
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"butterflies" doesnt do it for me like "another part of me" or "give in to me" | |
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WildStyle said: What about Liberian Girl? Dirty Diana? Speed Demon is a dope composition. Another Part Of Me? It wasn't safe. Safe would have been Thriller part II. Bad was anything but that.
nah, that's cool. I just love that album too much The songs are good, just not great, in my opinion. All the songs you mentioned I actually like, I just think he's done much better. And I'm comparing it more to what came later when his work took on a darker tone. He seemed to favour art over commerce in his post Bad material and that's the stuff I'm most drawn to. | |
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jayaredee said: one2three said: It think "Invincible" is the most underrated albums he has ever done. I'm thinking and I hope everyone agrees with me....even just as good as Thriller, which is the most overrated album.
Have you been to looney ville? Sorry this statement looks so wrong, so friggin wrong And how does it LOOK so wrong. Please explain. "It's not what they call you, it's what you respond to." - Mabel "Madea" Simmons | |
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Put the 9 best tracks on Invincible against the 9 tracks on Thriller and Vince would give Thriller a run for it's money. | |
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WildStyle said: Put the 9 best tracks on Invincible against the 9 tracks on Thriller and Vince would give Thriller a run for it's money.
I challenge you to find 9 solid tracks and match them song for song. "Butterflies" is hot but Floetry wrote it. No matter what way you dice it, Invincible is a clunker. | |
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WildStyle said: Put the 9 best tracks on Invincible against the 9 tracks on Thriller and Vince would give Thriller a run for it's money.
Easily. | |
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Cloudbuster said: WildStyle said: Put the 9 best tracks on Invincible against the 9 tracks on Thriller and Vince would give Thriller a run for it's money.
Easily. I fucking challenge you!! List those 9 songs that are so unbreakable! lol | |
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CinisterCee said: WildStyle said: Put the 9 best tracks on Invincible against the 9 tracks on Thriller and Vince would give Thriller a run for it's money.
I challenge you to find 9 solid tracks and match them song for song. "Butterflies" is hot but Floetry wrote it. No matter what way you dice it, Invincible is a clunker. Unbreakable Heartbreaker Break Of Dawn Heaven Can Wait You Rock My World Butterflies Speechless Don't Walk Away Whatever Happens There's my nine. 
Then there's Invincible, Threatened and 2000 Watts which I also like. So there's a twelve track album for you.
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Cloudbuster said: CinisterCee said: I challenge you to find 9 solid tracks and match them song for song. "Butterflies" is hot but Floetry wrote it. No matter what way you dice it, Invincible is a clunker. Unbreakable Heartbreaker Break Of Dawn Heaven Can Wait You Rock My World Butterflies Speechless Don't Walk Away Whatever Happens There's my nine.
Then there's Invincible, Threatened and 2000 Watts which I also like. So there's a twelve track album for you.
I really don't like the ones you left off, so thank you sir That album don't look so bad now , but it still don't look Bad or much of a Thriller. | |
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