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Thread started 04/21/04 2:10pm

Meloh9

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Listen to...

On The Couch and Sly and The Family Stone's Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be) back to back. Come back and tell me what you think.
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Reply #1 posted 04/21/04 2:29pm

okaypimpn

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Meloh9 said:

On The Couch and Sly and The Family Stone's Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be) back to back. Come back and tell me what you think.


Okay, they're both in 3/4 time. confused
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Reply #2 posted 04/21/04 2:50pm

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OKAYPIMPIN'...

U must B a musician...

That was cool.

Although I dig checkin' other peoples' musical comparisons, sometimes I don't hear what they do even though I have a musical ear, and I am a musician.

There have been many comparisons with tracks on Musicology on the org, and I generally don't agree with them.

It's funny, with a diverse musician like Prince, folks want 2 connect 2 the past. U can take nearly any artist (and their songs), and make connections 2 their previous work 'cause every artist has their own style (or should).

It's funny because Prince's work is so extensive AND diverse.

MUCH respect 2 Meloh9 4 listening, and 4 diggin' Sly and the Fam.

Peace Bruh.

G.
[This message was edited Wed Apr 21 14:52:05 2004 by Giovanni777]
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #3 posted 04/21/04 3:04pm

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Oh... This could end up being a thread of Prince song comparisons...
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #4 posted 04/21/04 4:45pm

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QSS was one song that actually made me embarrassed for Sly. I mean, a fucking Doris Day cover? Whateva.
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Reply #5 posted 04/22/04 8:19am

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Giovanni777 said:

OKAYPIMPIN'...

U must B a musician...

That was cool.

Although I dig checkin' other peoples' musical comparisons, sometimes I don't hear what they do even though I have a musical ear, and I am a musician.

There have been many comparisons with tracks on Musicology on the org, and I generally don't agree with them.

It's funny, with a diverse musician like Prince, folks want 2 connect 2 the past. U can take nearly any artist (and their songs), and make connections 2 their previous work 'cause every artist has their own style (or should).

It's funny because Prince's work is so extensive AND diverse.

MUCH respect 2 Meloh9 4 listening, and 4 diggin' Sly and the Fam.

Peace Bruh.

G.


Not to toot my own horn (lol), but I did play trumpet from 6th grade to my senior year in high school, so I know a lil' sumptin' sumptin.' wink
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Reply #6 posted 04/22/04 8:24am

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QSS was one song that actually made me embarrassed for Sly. I mean, a fucking Doris Day cover? Whateva.

You're shitting me? It is a seriously cool number.
Ain't nothing wrong with Doris' version, either!
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Reply #7 posted 04/22/04 8:39am

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gsh said:

freakebear said:

QSS was one song that actually made me embarrassed for Sly. I mean, a fucking Doris Day cover? Whateva.

You're shitting me? It is a seriously cool number.
Ain't nothing wrong with Doris' version, either!


Co-sign. I like how Sly freaked it and gave it a gospel vibe. Especially the pentecostal church-like reference he makes when he shouts out "Sing Rose!" The women in my church are forever telling someone to "Sang that song" lol
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Reply #8 posted 04/22/04 11:16am

Meloh9

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okaypimpn said:

Meloh9 said:

On The Couch and Sly and The Family Stone's Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be) back to back. Come back and tell me what you think.


Okay, they're both in 3/4 time. confused







a lot of songs are in 3/4 time. Is that all you hear?
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Reply #9 posted 04/22/04 11:37am

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Meloh9 said:

okaypimpn said:



Okay, they're both in 3/4 time. confused


a lot of songs are in 3/4 time. Is that all you hear?


Okay,

a) they both resemble gospel songs
b) we now know where where D'Angelo drew his inspiration for "Untitled (How Does It Feel)
from.
c) Did I miss anything else?
[This message was edited Thu Apr 22 11:38:09 2004 by okaypimpn]
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Reply #10 posted 04/22/04 1:17pm

Meloh9

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okaypimpn said:

Meloh9 said:



a lot of songs are in 3/4 time. Is that all you hear?


Okay,

a) they both resemble gospel songs
b) we now know where where D'Angelo drew his inspiration for "Untitled (How Does It Feel)
from.
c) Did I miss anything else?
[This message was edited Thu Apr 22 11:38:09 2004 by okaypimpn]





It's just that you make it seem like the whole analogy was stupid or something. I like tracing back influences and discussing them. We all know Prince is a Sly fanatic. The whole Musicology album seems to be a tribute to the masters, and a getting back to the basics kind of album.
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Reply #11 posted 04/22/04 1:22pm

okaypimpn

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Meloh9 said:

okaypimpn said:



Okay,

a) they both resemble gospel songs
b) we now know where where D'Angelo drew his inspiration for "Untitled (How Does It Feel)
from.
c) Did I miss anything else?
[This message was edited Thu Apr 22 11:38:09 2004 by okaypimpn]





It's just that you make it seem like the whole analogy was stupid or something. I like tracing back influences and discussing them. We all know Prince is a Sly fanatic. The whole Musicology album seems to be a tribute to the masters, and a getting back to the basics kind of album.


Not at all. I was just merely answering your question. Sorry if you took it that way. And I agree that the album is a throwback to the basics...the real essence of music. thumbs up!
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Reply #12 posted 04/22/04 1:28pm

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okaypimpn said:

Meloh9 said:






It's just that you make it seem like the whole analogy was stupid or something. I like tracing back influences and discussing them. We all know Prince is a Sly fanatic. The whole Musicology album seems to be a tribute to the masters, and a getting back to the basics kind of album.


Not at all. I was just merely answering your question. Sorry if you took it that way. And I agree that the album is a throwback to the basics...the real essence of music. thumbs up!




Cool, I think it was the confused that looked a little sarcastic.
But you know to my ears Cinemon Girl has a U2 kind of vibe but nobody got back to me on that.... the blood red sky lyric really does it. The tone he sings in. Very 80's Im not hearing Dolphin in that one. That's just me.
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Reply #13 posted 04/22/04 1:51pm

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Meloh9 said:

okaypimpn said:



Not at all. I was just merely answering your question. Sorry if you took it that way. And I agree that the album is a throwback to the basics...the real essence of music. thumbs up!




Cool, I think it was the confused that looked a little sarcastic.
But you know to my ears Cinemon Girl has a U2 kind of vibe but nobody got back to me on that.... the blood red sky lyric really does it. The tone he sings in. Very 80's Im not hearing Dolphin in that one. That's just me.


I get the U2 vibe from that song as well, but only from the first few intro seconds, where the drums and bass start...definitely reminds me one one of there songs in particular...maybe Sunday Bloody Sunday or Without You (don't have my U2 at hand and I havent listened to them for ages). And when he mentions Blood Red Sky, the U2 album springs to mind, but that's where the similarity stops. Maybe he did it on purpose. neutral
[This message was edited Thu Apr 22 13:55:16 2004 by Taureau]
jerkoff.....drool BULLSEYE! cool
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Reply #14 posted 04/22/04 2:02pm

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Meloh9 said:

okaypimpn said:



Not at all. I was just merely answering your question. Sorry if you took it that way. And I agree that the album is a throwback to the basics...the real essence of music. thumbs up!




Cool, I think it was the confused that looked a little sarcastic.
But you know to my ears Cinemon Girl has a U2 kind of vibe but nobody got back to me on that.... the blood red sky lyric really does it. The tone he sings in. Very 80's Im not hearing Dolphin in that one. That's just me.


When I heard Cinnemon Girl I thought exacty the same - U2. Remember Prince saying that he could do what U2 with his eyes closed. Alot of people on the org don't like it but it's very radio friendly - as are most of the track (hence not ground breaking rather easy listening with a hint of MPLS! Musically it's not on a par with TRC but it is for the masses and with the RnR Hall of Fame, Grammies, Purple Rain 20th anniversary he just wants to remind people he is still around - but he has grown up.
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Reply #15 posted 04/22/04 2:04pm

okaypimpn

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Meloh9 said:

okaypimpn said:



Not at all. I was just merely answering your question. Sorry if you took it that way. And I agree that the album is a throwback to the basics...the real essence of music. thumbs up!




Cool, I think it was the confused that looked a little sarcastic.
But you know to my ears Cinemon Girl has a U2 kind of vibe but nobody got back to me on that.... the blood red sky lyric really does it. The tone he sings in. Very 80's Im not hearing Dolphin in that one. That's just me.


I hear a bit of "Dolphin" (or some ballad probably taken from the Gold Experience album) in that song and also "A Million Days."
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Reply #16 posted 04/22/04 2:34pm

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okaypimpn said:

Meloh9 said:

On The Couch and Sly and The Family Stone's Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be) back to back. Come back and tell me what you think.


Okay, they're both in 3/4 time. confused


BTW, depending on fast you're keepign time on this one, it could be 12/8 time. Funny time, I know, but hey, it used to always be fun to sightread to. smile
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Reply #17 posted 04/22/04 2:37pm

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xpsiter said:

okaypimpn said:



Okay, they're both in 3/4 time. confused


BTW, depending on fast you're keepign time on this one, it could be 12/8 time. Funny time, I know, but hey, it used to always be fun to sightread to. smile


Or 6/8! lol
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Reply #18 posted 04/22/04 2:44pm

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On the song Animal Kingdom and a touch on Welcome 2 the Dawn, there are these guitar and vocal effects that I had never heard before. But just like any sound on a Prince record I thought were completely original to him, I heard a VERY similar sound that he more than likely stole it from. If any of yall know what I'm talkin' about, some feedback would be cool. I heard similar sounds to the ones I was talking about on a Sly Record. The name of the record is Stand and the name of the song I'm talking about is Sex Machine. That record and Animal Kingdom are the only time I've ever heard those guitar effects. It's always wonderful finding out where Prince stole something from.


I hope this post makes some kind of sense. I'm a bit blunt right now.
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Reply #19 posted 04/22/04 2:49pm

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Yer def right about On The Couch and Que Sera...and it makes sense, too!! I've loved Que Sera Sera ever since I first heard it.....and the same goes for On The Couch.

Doris Day song or not, Sly and The Fam's rendition of that is SO GODDAMN SLINKY I WANNA DIE. wink
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Reply #20 posted 04/23/04 9:00am

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Madhouse6 said:

Meloh9 said:





Cool, I think it was the confused that looked a little sarcastic.
But you know to my ears Cinemon Girl has a U2 kind of vibe but nobody got back to me on that.... the blood red sky lyric really does it. The tone he sings in. Very 80's Im not hearing Dolphin in that one. That's just me.


When I heard Cinnemon Girl I thought exacty the same - U2. Remember Prince saying that he could do what U2 with his eyes closed. Alot of people on the org don't like it but it's very radio friendly - as are most of the track (hence not ground breaking rather easy listening with a hint of MPLS! Musically it's not on a par with TRC but it is for the masses and with the RnR Hall of Fame, Grammies, Purple Rain 20th anniversary he just wants to remind people he is still around - but he has grown up.





I dont get why people are not feeling this album. Sometimes a stripped down sound is better than over production. When Doves Cry is not over produced at all, and Little Red Corvette is radio friendly and it's considered to be a classic. A million days was cut in the same style of that song. This record reminds me that music is supposed to be fun. It's traditional Prince sounding like Prince in many ways. I cant stop playing if eye was the man in ur life.
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