anyhoo, tho' i've been diggin prince 4 only a short time (comin up on...oh, 8 years now), the brotha's helped me a great deal with comin 2 realize who i am and that it's al-fuckin-right 2 be quirky. don't be afraid, letcha freak flag fly, all that.

theblueangel said:

...awright.

blueangel, lemme share sumfin with u; my mom's side of the family sorta treats me...well, odd, 2 say the least. i've always been somewhat of the black sheep of my family:
* they question how many black friends i have (i get along with everybody, no matter what color someone is)

* they always wonder why i never wear shit like fubu and whatever other 'urban'-type fashions (i'm sorta punky-retro when it comes 2 dress)

* they say i 'talk white' or 'sound white', which is really super-funny. i'm a very intelligent young woman, been readin since the age of 2, been able 2 read/spell on a college level since i wuz very young.

* i haven't been in trouble with the law, i'm still a virgin, and i stay outta other people's business. my mom's folks are proud of me 4 all that, but still i feel as if they kinna jealous of me 4 those reasons...i have several family members who've been in trouble with the law, have a few female family members who are about the same age as me and had kids when they were young, and th' folks seem 2 worry about everybody's business under the sun except their own.

that, and they're racist as well. i grew up hearin 'em refer 2 white folks as (pardon my french) 'peckerwoods' and 'honkies' and stoopid shit like that. i distance myself from all that bullshit they say and do. my mother and father raised me 2 have respect and tolerance 4 everyone, even if they disrespect u. 'don't stoop 2 their level!'

anyhoo, tho' i've been diggin prince 4 only a short time (comin up on...oh, 8 years now), the brotha's helped me a great deal with comin 2 realize who i am and that it's al-fuckin-right 2 be quirky. don't be afraid, letcha freak flag fly, all that. i agree with u, nowadays it's sorta odd 2 be a prince freek since he's bein...i dunno, scholarly or what-not. the new lyrix everybody's been trippin about?

no 'isms' 2 be found in 'em. the lyrix scream 'schoolhouse rock' more than 'scholar' 2 me, imho. fer fuck's sake, he's a high school graduate, just like i am!!! not a damned thing in the world wrong with that, but there ain't a damned thing wrong with readin up on stuff and gettin your brain food on as well. thing is, if u gonna try 2 get deep on folks with music and history...i dunno. i don't wanna say that the brotha should take his booty 2 college or sumfin, take a course or two, but still...wordage is key.

then again, some folks interpret art a bit mo' different than others. who knows?

but anyway, blueangel, my advice 2 u is this: follow yo instincts. don't listen 2 all these cats runnin around, goin ballistic over lyrical content and whatever. do what u feel is right. i'm not sure if u got turned on 2 prince on your own or somebody else turned u on 2 'im, but remember this: it's all up 2 u. hope u understand me, sorry this is so ultra-long...





phew, mine!!!

For somebody who loves Prince's freakiest LP of all time. You sure are a good girl!!!

For somebody who loves Prince's freakiest LP of all time. You sure are a good girl!!!

i think you'd find that the people who claim dirty mind as one of their favorite albums have much more loving hearts and minds than those who choose the rainbow children or newpowersoul.

chickengrease said:

rdhull said: It all boils down to Uptown is boolshet..

i've heard you say this in other threads, and i think it's the saddest thing i've ever heard. you really believe this, and somehow think that's okay?

man, i don't know. yeah i'm the same blueangel on the club, the one that PP9 keeps censoring. what did i say on there that you thought was against the "stipulations" anyway?

and why do you bring bowie into this? i never mentioned him. it's not b/c you associate him with fags, is it? i hope not, but i wonder.

so you really think uptown was all bullshit? so what was it then? he only sang "am i black or white, am i straight or gay?" to sell records? (yes i know that was on the next album!! i'm just using that lyric as an example) - because if so, then i think that makes it even worse for me...b/c that's purposefully duplicitous.

rdhull said: It all boils down to Uptown is boolshet..

i've heard you say this in other threads, and i think it's the saddest thing i've ever heard. you really believe this, and somehow think that's okay?

man, i don't know. yeah i'm the same blueangel on the club, the one that PP9 keeps censoring. what did i say on there that you thought was against the "stipulations" anyway? and why do you bring bowie into this? i never mentioned him. it's not b/c you associate him with fags, is it? i hope not, but i wonder.

i think you're a cool guy, and i REALLY dig a lot of what you write about prince's music.

so you really think uptown was all bullshit? so what was it then? he only sang "am i black or white, am i straight or gay?" to sell records? (yes i know that was on the next album!! i'm just using that lyric as an example) - because if so, then i think that makes it even worse for me...b/c that's purposefully duplicitous.

waitin 4 the disenchanted masses 2 come poke me 2 death over and pick apart my long-winded commentary...

theblueangel said:

...awright.

blueangel, lemme share sumfin with u; my mom's side of the family sorta treats me...well, odd, 2 say the least. i've always been somewhat of the black sheep of my family:
* they question how many black friends i have (i get along with everybody, no matter what color someone is)

* they always wonder why i never wear shit like fubu and whatever other 'urban'-type fashions (i'm sorta punky-retro when it comes 2 dress)

* they say i 'talk white' or 'sound white', which is really super-funny. i'm a very intelligent young woman, been readin since the age of 2, been able 2 read/spell on a college level since i wuz very young.

* i haven't been in trouble with the law, i'm still a virgin, and i stay outta other people's business. my mom's folks are proud of me 4 all that, but still i feel as if they kinna jealous of me 4 those reasons...i have several family members who've been in trouble with the law, have a few female family members who are about the same age as me and had kids when they were young, and th' folks seem 2 worry about everybody's business under the sun except their own.

that, and they're racist as well. i grew up hearin 'em refer 2 white folks as (pardon my french) 'peckerwoods' and 'honkies' and stoopid shit like that. i distance myself from all that bullshit they say and do. my mother and father raised me 2 have respect and tolerance 4 everyone, even if they disrespect u. 'don't stoop 2 their level!'

anyhoo, tho' i've been diggin prince 4 only a short time (comin up on...oh, 8 years now), the brotha's helped me a great deal with comin 2 realize who i am and that it's al-fuckin-right 2 be quirky. don't be afraid, letcha freak flag fly, all that. i agree with u, nowadays it's sorta odd 2 be a prince freek since he's bein...i dunno, scholarly or what-not. the new lyrix everybody's been trippin about?

no 'isms' 2 be found in 'em. the lyrix scream 'schoolhouse rock' more than 'scholar' 2 me, imho. fer fuck's sake, he's a high school graduate, just like i am!!! not a damned thing in the world wrong with that, but there ain't a damned thing wrong with readin up on stuff and gettin your brain food on as well. thing is, if u gonna try 2 get deep on folks with music and history...i dunno. i don't wanna say that the brotha should take his booty 2 college or sumfin, take a course or two, but still...wordage is key.

then again, some folks interpret art a bit mo' different than others. who knows?

but anyway, blueangel, my advice 2 u is this: follow yo instincts. don't listen 2 all these cats runnin around, goin ballistic over lyrical content and whatever. do what u feel is right. i'm not sure if u got turned on 2 prince on your own or somebody else turned u on 2 'im, but remember this: it's all up 2 u. hope u understand me, sorry this is so ultra-long...





phew, mine!!!

i don't think it's good enough though to just say that "everyone knows that's how the club is, so there's no point in complaining" - how is that any different than saying "well everyone knows that country club doesn't accept black members, so there's no point in even trying to get in or complaining about it"?

honestly. i think that's a pretty reasonable comparison.

(along with what lovebizarre said)Ive always thought of Uptown as a place where all folks reaspected each other and could get down (live) with each other..whites blacks hispanics, polish, irish, gay, baptist, catholic, etc etc etc... and I have lived that life and so do my friends and family for the most part and that was innate AND engrained in me by my family, NOT Prince..so when this Prince mf-er came along I tought cool..someone else. Thats what Uptown was/is to me.

And when I say it was fake or not fully honest I mean HIS and THE AUDIENCE OF PRINCES UPTOWN ..NOT mine. My shit has never waned.. Im still living that freedom etc for all life regardless of what or who comes into my life. So thats why I could give two fucks if Prince writes what he writes because my own self is strong enough for anything much less an artist (evena great one) to fuck with it (or fuck it up rather)


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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

i don't think it's good enough though to just say that "everyone knows that's how the club is, so there's no point in complaining" - how is that any different than saying "well everyone knows that country club doesn't accept black members, so there's no point in even trying to get in or complaining about it"?

honestly. i think that's a pretty reasonable comparison.

as for dirty mind being bullshit (i gotta admit i find it amusing that you never had any problem writing actual cuss words until prince stopped) from the audience's perspective...well, it was NEVER bullshit for me, and it still ain't. y'all cynical "realist" motherfuckers can shit on it all you want...but for me it WAS and IS a way of life. yer gonna have to fight yer own damn war, cuz we don't wanna fight no more.

Supernova said:

hee heee, that tickles!

rdhull, i'd love to hang out with you sometime, b/c you seem like a fucking cool guy.

i don't think it's good enough though to just say that "everyone knows that's how the club is, so there's no point in complaining" - how is that any different than saying "well everyone knows that country club doesn't accept black members, so there's no point in even trying to get in or complaining about it"?

honestly. i think that's a pretty reasonable comparison. maybe you think differently..in which case, cool..let me know why...just know that i think you rock and i dig your posts and the fact that you're not afraid to speak your mind.

as for dirty mind being bullshit (i gotta admit i find it amusing that you never had any problem writing actual cuss words until prince stopped) from the audience's perspective...well, it was NEVER bullshit for me, and it still ain't. y'all cynical "realist" motherfuckers can shit on it all you want...but for me it WAS and IS a way of life. yer gonna have to fight yer own damn war, cuz we don't wanna fight no more.

i agree with rd--hell, been holdin my personal aspect of uptown since birth, i s'pose. don't depend on a song 4 rides, cuz hell...u may awready be awright where u at (hope i worded that okay).

and yup, dirty mind shall remain my jonathan livingston seagull 4 life, far as i'm concerned.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Just in case we never meet etc. I want to say that I love you.

i'm a very intelligent young woman,

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

that's an understatement if i've ever heard one

lovebizzare said: