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Thread started 04/18/24 3:06am

Vannormal

Start dreaming about Purple Rain SDE

Nothing can prevent us from dreaming what we want on this SDE.

IF THEY RELEASE IT (one day... soon)

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I for one would love more rehearsal tracks 'for the first time' on this SDE.

Plus, if they do a book, (they always do a book), Prince's drawings for ideas, and script changes for the movie.

Include three full live recordings, we all know what we want the most.

And why the hell not make it BIG, with the inclusion of :

- The Time's Ice Cream Castles album

- Apollonia's 6 album

- Modernaire's contribution, etc...

MAKE IT BIG.

But make the package affordable,

and provide donwloads to complete the era for the true completist fans.

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What would you guys like to see released?

Dream out loud.

It's for free.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #1 posted 04/18/24 3:32am

Mindbells9

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My dream Purple Rain set would be if they

*Include video footage of the 8/3/83 First Avenue benefit show as well as the 6/7/84 birthday show at First Avenue, and (if it exists) the mini concert performed at the MTV premiere party for Purple Rain on 7/27/84. Include some of the rehearsal footage seen in the Nothing Compares 2 U and Manic Monday videos. Include the footage from the June 29, 1983 Minnesota Black Music Awards as well as the May 21, 1984 Minnesota Music Awards.

*Release audio of the Purple Rain shows from 2/23/85 in Inglewood and 3/28/85 in Worcester since these are 2 shows where the setlist varies and there are songs that were either rarely played on that tour or were debuted and played for the first time.

*There are tons of soundchecks and rehearsals to choose from this era. Include a couple of cds that have the most interesting performances and songs, including Prince teaching the band "Sister Fate", early renditions of "Strange Relationship", the rehearsal of "The Ladder" which ended up on ATWIAD with some overdubs,etc.

* And of course multiple cds of uncirculating outtakes, demos, alternate/extended versions, etc. Make this a massive Purple Rain: The Super Deluxe Torrential Downpour Edition and then they can finally move the fuck away from Purple Rain
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Reply #2 posted 04/18/24 4:49am

lustmealways

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Prediction:

This set won't be done anywhere near as it should be and it will have 3 discs of outtakes and 1 live show and we'll all be terribly sad.

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Reply #3 posted 04/18/24 4:57am

JorisE73

Mindbells9 said:

My dream Purple Rain set would be if they *Include video footage of the 8/3/83 First Avenue benefit show as well as the 6/7/84 birthday show at First Avenue, and (if it exists) the mini concert performed at the MTV premiere party for Purple Rain on 7/27/84. Include some of the rehearsal footage seen in the Nothing Compares 2 U and Manic Monday videos. Include the footage from the June 29, 1983 Minnesota Black Music Awards as well as the May 21, 1984 Minnesota Music Awards. *Release audio of the Purple Rain shows from 2/23/85 in Inglewood and 3/28/85 in Worcester since these are 2 shows where the setlist varies and there are songs that were either rarely played on that tour or were debuted and played for the first time. *There are tons of soundchecks and rehearsals to choose from this era. Include a couple of cds that have the most interesting performances and songs, including Prince teaching the band "Sister Fate", early renditions of "Strange Relationship", the rehearsal of "The Ladder" which ended up on ATWIAD with some overdubs,etc. * And of course multiple cds of uncirculating outtakes, demos, alternate/extended versions, etc. Make this a massive Purple Rain: The Super Deluxe Torrential Downpour Edition and then they can finally move the fuck away from Purple Rain



I think Apple has the rights to the First Avenue 83 show and First Avenue 84 (Birthday Show) should be a standalone release or be kept for a release of that in between Purple Rain and ATWIAD album becaues that show has the basic tracks of some of the songs on that album that was replaced by ATWIAD.
With SOTT SDE and D&P SDE they added a show that wasn't really part of the tour so they could also do that by adding the First Avenue 84 try out show (August 14).
But they'll proabbaly add Syracuse 85 again because it's rumored that they found a new source for it.

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Reply #4 posted 04/18/24 5:28am

psyche2

JorisE73 said:

Mindbells9 said:

My dream Purple Rain set would be if they *Include video footage of the 8/3/83 First Avenue benefit show as well as the 6/7/84 birthday show at First Avenue, and (if it exists) the mini concert performed at the MTV premiere party for Purple Rain on 7/27/84. Include some of the rehearsal footage seen in the Nothing Compares 2 U and Manic Monday videos. Include the footage from the June 29, 1983 Minnesota Black Music Awards as well as the May 21, 1984 Minnesota Music Awards. *Release audio of the Purple Rain shows from 2/23/85 in Inglewood and 3/28/85 in Worcester since these are 2 shows where the setlist varies and there are songs that were either rarely played on that tour or were debuted and played for the first time. *There are tons of soundchecks and rehearsals to choose from this era. Include a couple of cds that have the most interesting performances and songs, including Prince teaching the band "Sister Fate", early renditions of "Strange Relationship", the rehearsal of "The Ladder" which ended up on ATWIAD with some overdubs,etc. * And of course multiple cds of uncirculating outtakes, demos, alternate/extended versions, etc. Make this a massive Purple Rain: The Super Deluxe Torrential Downpour Edition and then they can finally move the fuck away from Purple Rain



I think Apple has the rights to the First Avenue 83 show and First Avenue 84 (Birthday Show) should be a standalone release or be kept for a release of that in between Purple Rain and ATWIAD album becaues that show has the basic tracks of some of the songs on that album that was replaced by ATWIAD.
With SOTT SDE and D&P SDE they added a show that wasn't really part of the tour so they could also do that by adding the First Avenue 84 try out show (August 14).
But they'll proabbaly add Syracuse 85 again because it's rumored that they found a new source for it.

What ?

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Reply #5 posted 04/18/24 5:39am

JorisE73

psyche2 said:

JorisE73 said:



I think Apple has the rights to the First Avenue 83 show and First Avenue 84 (Birthday Show) should be a standalone release or be kept for a release of that in between Purple Rain and ATWIAD album becaues that show has the basic tracks of some of the songs on that album that was replaced by ATWIAD.
With SOTT SDE and D&P SDE they added a show that wasn't really part of the tour so they could also do that by adding the First Avenue 84 try out show (August 14).
But they'll proabbaly add Syracuse 85 again because it's rumored that they found a new source for it.

What ?


Yeah, that's what we all thought when this rumor popped up late last year

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Reply #6 posted 04/18/24 7:06am

olb99

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Mindbells9 said:

then they can finally move the fuck away from Purple Rain


This.

We can dream...

But I predict they will milk that period for the next 20-30 years. At least.

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Reply #7 posted 04/18/24 7:21am

JoeyCococo

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Prediction:

This set won't be done anywhere near as it should be and it will have 3 discs of outtakes and 1 live show and we'll all be terribly sad.

So, if they release 3 vault discs and a live album, you'll be terribly sad???????? Isn't this the typical fan response? The man's been gone for nearly 8 years, still blowing us away year after year, and we have people complaining.

Come on!

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Reply #8 posted 04/18/24 7:23am

JoeyCococo

I think they have done Syracuse to death...great job but, enough.

I would not mind the OMNI Atlanta show OR, a collection of songs from the tour from different cities.

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Reply #9 posted 04/18/24 8:53am

bozojones

lustmealways said:

Prediction:

This set won't be done anywhere near as it should be and it will have 3 discs of outtakes and 1 live show and we'll all be terribly sad.

Honestly, if we manage to get 3 whole discs of outtakes without any botched sound quality or mono mixes, I'll consider that a success far beyond my expectations lol

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Reply #10 posted 04/18/24 9:00am

JorisE73

JoeyCococo said:

I think they have done Syracuse to death...great job but, enough.

I would not mind the OMNI Atlanta show OR, a collection of songs from the tour from different cities.


if they ad Sheila E's support act and release the broadcast version instead of the home video version of the main show than it might be nice.

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Reply #11 posted 04/18/24 9:11am

RODSERLING

What would be the point in finding another source for Syracuse lol ? That would be the same show, and that show was awful in its content.
First avenue 83 in HD as promised 7 years ago or Something new in HD.

Doing Syracuse again would be so lame.
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Reply #12 posted 04/18/24 1:44pm

Vannormal

JorisE73 said:

psyche2 said:

What ?


Yeah, that's what we all thought when this rumor popped up late last year

I heard that rumour too, but it seems quite unlikely to me, since there was no other new information to support this rumour. Because by now everything is already decided, ànd kept very well as a secret this time. My guess is, if it is the PR SDE, it will be for the end of this year. Between now and Celebration'24, not much will happen except for two new songs on a cassette in poor quality... Hope i'm dead wrong. wink

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Reply #13 posted 04/18/24 3:40pm

rap

JorisE73 said:

Mindbells9 said:

My dream Purple Rain set would be if they *Include video footage of the 8/3/83 First Avenue benefit show as well as the 6/7/84 birthday show at First Avenue, and (if it exists) the mini concert performed at the MTV premiere party for Purple Rain on 7/27/84. Include some of the rehearsal footage seen in the Nothing Compares 2 U and Manic Monday videos. Include the footage from the June 29, 1983 Minnesota Black Music Awards as well as the May 21, 1984 Minnesota Music Awards. *Release audio of the Purple Rain shows from 2/23/85 in Inglewood and 3/28/85 in Worcester since these are 2 shows where the setlist varies and there are songs that were either rarely played on that tour or were debuted and played for the first time. *There are tons of soundchecks and rehearsals to choose from this era. Include a couple of cds that have the most interesting performances and songs, including Prince teaching the band "Sister Fate", early renditions of "Strange Relationship", the rehearsal of "The Ladder" which ended up on ATWIAD with some overdubs,etc. * And of course multiple cds of uncirculating outtakes, demos, alternate/extended versions, etc. Make this a massive Purple Rain: The Super Deluxe Torrential Downpour Edition and then they can finally move the fuck away from Purple Rain



I think Apple has the rights to the First Avenue 83 show and First Avenue 84 (Birthday Show) should be a standalone release or be kept for a release of that in between Purple Rain and ATWIAD album becaues that show has the basic tracks of some of the songs on that album that was replaced by ATWIAD.
With SOTT SDE and D&P SDE they added a show that wasn't really part of the tour so they could also do that by adding the First Avenue 84 try out show (August 14).
But they'll proabbaly add Syracuse 85 again because it's rumored that they found a new source for it.

Since when, and why?

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Reply #14 posted 04/18/24 10:39pm

psyche2

JorisE73 said:

psyche2 said:

What ?


Yeah, that's what we all thought when this rumor popped up late last year

Perhaps the "new found source" is a Sabotage bootleg lol

(pardon my sarcasm)

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Reply #15 posted 04/18/24 11:55pm

olb99

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I'm all for releasing new sources for previously released material if the source is better. Ultimately, it's a good thing.

Now it would be better if this was a new source for "Wally" and not for Syracuse 1985, i.e. for released recordings that are really suffering from obvious/annoying problems.

And it would be even better if it was done in a context where they're releasing a ton of previously unreleased stuff. This is not the case, so if (if!) they're re-re-releasing Syracuse 1985, this is a bit underwhelming. (But good at the same time.)

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Reply #16 posted 04/19/24 12:08am

JorisE73

rap said:

JorisE73 said:



I think Apple has the rights to the First Avenue 83 show and First Avenue 84 (Birthday Show) should be a standalone release or be kept for a release of that in between Purple Rain and ATWIAD album becaues that show has the basic tracks of some of the songs on that album that was replaced by ATWIAD.
With SOTT SDE and D&P SDE they added a show that wasn't really part of the tour so they could also do that by adding the First Avenue 84 try out show (August 14).
But they'll proabbaly add Syracuse 85 again because it's rumored that they found a new source for it.

Since when, and why?



Since 2017 I think. Apple was said to do a documentary for it for a anniversary release, I never heard anything more about it again. But if they have some rights to it then maybe they can block it for the Estate until Apple has released it first. Otherwise it would be perfect for a Purple Rain SDE

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Reply #17 posted 04/19/24 1:28am

Vannormal

JorisE73 said:

rap said:

Since when, and why?



Since 2017 I think. Apple was said to do a documentary for it for a anniversary release, I never heard anything more about it again. But if they have some rights to it then maybe they can block it for the Estate until Apple has released it first. Otherwise it would be perfect for a Purple Rain SDE

Yeah but, since it didn't happen (the documentary), is it for sure in their (Apple) hands?

Apple doesn't easily let these things go unused.. or am i wrong?

Don't forget, sometimes rumours are being spread to give an up coming deal a push.

That's a way of negotiating. So, nothing is sure...

Of course it HAS TO BE on the PR SDE. I fully agree.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #18 posted 04/19/24 2:58am

JorisE73

Vannormal said:

JorisE73 said:



Since 2017 I think. Apple was said to do a documentary for it for a anniversary release, I never heard anything more about it again. But if they have some rights to it then maybe they can block it for the Estate until Apple has released it first. Otherwise it would be perfect for a Purple Rain SDE

Yeah but, since it didn't happen (the documentary), is it for sure in their (Apple) hands?

Apple doesn't easily let these things go unused.. or am i wrong?

Don't forget, sometimes rumours are being spread to give an up coming deal a push.

That's a way of negotiating. So, nothing is sure...

Of course it HAS TO BE on the PR SDE. I fully agree.


I can't really rememebr but wasn't this something that Tyka hinted at, that they sold it to Apple for a documentary ? it could be maybe to hype up the 2017 Purple Rain Deluxe Edition but, I don't know.
Maybe it's the same deal as the Netflix doc that the Estate have to run it by them first before they release it.

If it;s not with Apple than I really hope it;s on teh SDE because it belongs on there.

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Reply #19 posted 04/19/24 7:54am

nayroo2002

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Purple Rain, Purple Rain

Purple Rain, Puh-hurple Rayne

Purple Rain, Perrrpahlll Reeehahnaaaah

Wooooo!!!

Y'all know what i'm typin' 'bout, raise yo' phone!!!

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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #20 posted 04/19/24 11:38am

Vannormal

Honestly, this year, i really want a new (nd much better, bigger) PR SDE.

And i mean BIIIIIIIG! wink

I don't care for the price this time. Really not.

Call me crazy, I don' t care.

It would be more complete for me if they did an effort to include 'The Time' and 'Apollonia Six' (unreleased) tracks or different versions we never heard.

For sure i want a Dolby Atmos of the album, cause that was my surprise with the D&P SDE release.

A cleaned up verision of the movie WITH extended deleted scenes.

And audio surprises like demo-ideas,

or Prince fooling around on the piano or any other instrument.

Rehearsals (video footage) from the bands in the movie.

His involvement with the outfits of The Revolution etc... Prince was good in making drawings of his ideas, why not these.

Alternative artwork. Advertisement, whatever... (in case they make a book / they always make a book.)

It would be nice to have more info how Prince himself put all the flowers in some studio on the floor for the album cover. For sure there are more pictures of that, maybe even video.

Shots, pictures of the making of the movie.

More stories on the poster, small interesting things like that.

Maybe even have a few great contemporary remixes. And I know how much most people hate this idea here. It doesn't need to be on the SDE, rather as a download, to get youngsters more into it.

I would't mind at all.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #21 posted 04/19/24 11:53am

nayroo2002

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Vannormal said:

all that

you realize that it would be a massive, bloody car crash that you could never unsee, yes?

That's probably why i would actually never want to hear the unabashed WDC bit.

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Reply #22 posted 04/19/24 12:40pm

Vannormal

nayroo2002 said:

Vannormal said:

all that

you realize that it would be a massive, bloody car crash that you could never unsee, yes?

That's probably why i would actually never want to hear the unabashed WDC bit.

Why does it need to be a massive bloody car crash? When they do a good job, it simply won't be a bloody mess. My idea is that not everything needs to be on a SDE.

It can be available via download, instagram, facebook, TikfuckingTok, Telegram... you name it. Isn't it about time they give some real interesting goodies for free imho. Things only die hards would love to see and have. Plus you make it also available for study.

I for one want to hear the unabashed WDC, and honestly, when it's a avilable, I bet you too. Every Prince fan wants to hear that.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #23 posted 04/19/24 4:27pm

rap

Does anyone know if the music from the basement scene "She's crying, it's backwards", is a fully fledged song and has a name?

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Reply #24 posted 04/19/24 5:38pm

SoulAlive

Prince’s 1983 version of “G-spot” has got to be included.It appears in an early script of Purple Rain.One of my favorite outtakes from this era!
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Reply #25 posted 04/19/24 5:47pm

SoulAlive

and how about “Modernaire”? Let’s have that song and any possible early versions/demos of it.
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Reply #26 posted 04/19/24 6:03pm

SoulAlive

the early version of “17 Days” with Brenda Bennet on lead vocals.
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Reply #27 posted 04/19/24 6:08pm

SoulAlive

“Wednesday” by Jill Jones
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Reply #28 posted 04/19/24 6:22pm

SoulAlive

Seriously,let’s go all out! Make this a massive,10-disc box set! biggrin Give us several live shows (not Syracuse again).
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Reply #29 posted 04/19/24 10:31pm

Landonfunkmonk
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I'm not to bothered about the live content. For me it's all about the vault material.

I really want to hear Blue Love.
Something BIG Is Coming.
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