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Reply #30 posted 03/13/24 6:02am

hosemasterflex

I don't get the hostility towards the post estate regime, I just don't think it's doing anything to endear the fans to them. They might not be great or good but that's my 2 cents, might as well be civilized about it all.

Here's my want list of vinyl reissues. I realize only some of us are into that side of it.

Black Album
O+>
The B Sides!
Crystal Ball
Kamasutra
NewPower Soul
Xpectation
NEWS
C Note
Chocolate Invasion
The Slaughterhouse
Lotusflow3r & MPLS
20Ten
PlectrumElectrum
Art Official Age
HitNRun phase one
HitNRun phase two
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Reply #31 posted 03/13/24 6:09am

Vannormal

bizzie said:

Big words from the man who announced the estate would re-release Chaka Khan's Come 2 My House by the end of 2023, which of course they failed to do.

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Also, they've managed one vinyl re-release since the release of D&P, and I bet that re-release was prepared by the previous regime. Then again, I bet much of the work of the PR SDE was done by the previous regime as well.

And it would not surpise me that this new million-making 'anti-Prince-gang' will size down what the previous regime build up.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #32 posted 03/13/24 7:01am

funkbabyandthe
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psyche2 said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

may we live 2 c the PR re-release

im sure this will come out this year

if they fail to make it happen on this anniversary year, that will be a colossal fail

In all honesty, does the anniversary thingy actually means that much to you, either as a fan, casual-fan, or whatever side of the spectrum do you place at?

I'm genuinely asking with all respect.

I just don't get the hype for the anniversary re-releases, either plain or SDE or whatever. I thirst for anything new, even more at this output rate.

to me, no.

but i understand that anniversaries seem to make things an easier sell.

and as PR will likely be the estates biggest seller, it would be good if they can do it this year.

i know PR will prob sell well whatever year it is issued, but people seem to like anniversaries, or at least those selling these things (whether films, albums, etc) think they matter.

i would also be happy to have a PR super-super deluxe set.

though i would be happier to see a proper reissue/SDE campaign launched, including less obvious albums, starting with the warner years.

but that doesnt seem to be on the cards, so hey, ill take a PR anniversary release.

[Edited 3/13/24 7:01am]

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Reply #33 posted 03/13/24 8:42am

MIRvmn1

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ShellyMcG said:

I have to laugh at the "makemillions" part. If they really wanted to make millions they'd put together a coherent plan for getting out as many vault releases as they can. And maybe inform the fans (aka the ones they are trying to sell stuff to) in on those plans. And as a goodwill gesture how about releasing those songs that were played at the Celebration thingy last year so that those of us for whom it's not feasible to travel halfway around the world can actually hear them and maybe even have an opportunity to buy them.

It really brothers me that they still haven't released the celebration tracks and I honestly don't think it will ever happen at this point. Yet the estate is fully aware that we're willing to pay for it but they don't seem to care for some strange reason.
U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn
Free the prince SDE now!
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Reply #34 posted 03/13/24 10:30am

ShellyMcG

MIRvmn1 said:

ShellyMcG said:

I have to laugh at the "makemillions" part. If they really wanted to make millions they'd put together a coherent plan for getting out as many vault releases as they can. And maybe inform the fans (aka the ones they are trying to sell stuff to) in on those plans. And as a goodwill gesture how about releasing those songs that were played at the Celebration thingy last year so that those of us for whom it's not feasible to travel halfway around the world can actually hear them and maybe even have an opportunity to buy them.

It really brothers me that they still haven't released the celebration tracks and I honestly don't think it will ever happen at this point. Yet the estate is fully aware that we're willing to pay for it but they don't seem to care for some strange reason.


Imagine running a business and your customers tell you what they want and are willing to pay top dollar for it. But rather than take the easy decision of actually selling the fans what they want you instead decide to focus on a bunch of crap like bed sheets and candles and other stuff that nobody asked for. How long do you think you would last in that job?
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Reply #35 posted 03/13/24 10:57am

nayroo2002

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This is actually nice!!!1999 Lined All Season Leather Jacket

...but, then again, dick on your jacket neutral

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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #36 posted 03/15/24 10:54pm

Vannormal

What's wrong with having a dick on your jacket...

Honestly, I think it's not even a very good effort to look like one. wink

I always wondered what he drew on it, lower, is it sperm?

nayroo2002 said:

This is actually nice!!!1999 Lined All Season Leather Jacket

...but, then again, dick on your jacket neutral

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #37 posted 03/16/24 12:17am

SoulAlive

that's actually a nice jacket smile and so is this one

Anthology: 1978-1991 Lined All Season Leather Jacket

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Reply #38 posted 03/16/24 1:50am

ghostof82

They don't want our money.

It's slowly dawned on me (Welcome to the Dawn indeed).

They could release... Well, we all have a huge list of faves we'd like to see, SDEs or live sets... Another return to Purple Rain seems inevitable but I can't help but fear it's just another wasted year.

The Estate is somehow, incredibly, making Prince seem irrelevant.Its mind-boggling how they are miss managing his legacy.
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Reply #39 posted 03/16/24 1:41pm

Vannormal

psyche2 said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

may we live 2 c the PR re-release

im sure this will come out this year

if they fail to make it happen on this anniversary year, that will be a colossal fail

In all honesty, does the anniversary thingy actually means that much to you, either as a fan, casual-fan, or whatever side of the spectrum do you place at?

I'm genuinely asking with all respect.

I just don't get the hype for the anniversary re-releases, either plain or SDE or whatever. I thirst for anything new, even more at this output rate.

I only 'thirst' for something new from his earlier 1977-1989 releases we never heard.

Therefor the PR-SDE re-issue would be good (for me), if they really make it worth a while.

To me, Prince's music after The Rainbow Children wasn't all that interesting.

I even doubt if "Black Is The new Black" (unfinished) is worth a release. If it was worth it they would've released it instead of that mediocre "Welcome 2 America" for example.

One thing I don't understand, is Prince's last P&M-tour, which shoud've been release already a long time ago. Like right after his death, that would've been a perfect closure for his whole body of work & legacy imho.

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #40 posted 03/18/24 9:41am

LILpoundCAKE

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I have this hunger for more, but not just for the sake of it, I just want to expand the scope
on what we know from him.

Even the D&P SDE is nice in that regard as in it makes his discography that much broader.

And so I want that expansion to continue in multiple places at once. Not in just one era or
one defined album per year.

I really do wish we would get 3 releases each year: 1 SDE release of an 80s album, 1 SDE
of a post WB album and one release of something we don't know yet, like an album he did
some work on but ultimately shelved or a great live release, like a box with a rehearsal or
soundcheck, a full show and an aftershow. like a series that also continues to build.

Surely the market can handle 3 of such?

May U Live 2 See The Release of Parade SDE
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Reply #41 posted 03/18/24 9:54am

MIRvmn1

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LILpoundCAKE said:

I have this hunger for more, but not just for the sake of it, I just want to expand the scope
on what we know from him.

Even the D&P SDE is nice in that regard as in it makes his discography that much broader.

And so I want that expansion to continue in multiple places at once. Not in just one era or
one defined album per year.

I really do wish we would get 3 releases each year: 1 SDE release of an 80s album, 1 SDE
of a post WB album and one release of something we don't know yet, like an album he did
some work on but ultimately shelved or a great live release, like a box with a rehearsal or
soundcheck, a full show and an aftershow. like a series that also continues to build.

Surely the market can handle 3 of such?



I agree. They should release both PR SDE and prince SDE this year and a full Musicology show since it's Musicology 20th anniversary this year.
U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn
Free the prince SDE now!
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Reply #42 posted 03/18/24 10:37am

WhiteSandsHide
away11

LILpoundCAKE said:

I have this hunger for more, but not just for the sake of it, I just want to expand the scope
on what we know from him.

Even the D&P SDE is nice in that regard as in it makes his discography that much broader.

And so I want that expansion to continue in multiple places at once. Not in just one era or
one defined album per year.

I really do wish we would get 3 releases each year: 1 SDE release of an 80s album, 1 SDE
of a post WB album and one release of something we don't know yet, like an album he did
some work on but ultimately shelved or a great live release, like a box with a rehearsal or
soundcheck, a full show and an aftershow. like a series that also continues to build.

Surely the market can handle 3 of such?






Especially live content. How they haven’t set up some sort of online platform for monthly live releases is astounding. They will simply not be able to get the amount of brilliant live shows out if they limit it to 1 show included in and SDE once a year… unless they really believe that there is going to be a huge market for a 1994 Prince aftershow 200 years from now…
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Reply #43 posted 03/18/24 10:48am

WhiteSandsHide
away11

https://live.brucespringsteen.net/

That is exactly what the estate should be doing.
[Edited 3/18/24 10:48am]
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Reply #44 posted 03/18/24 11:20am

nayroo2002

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WhiteSandsHideaway11 said:

https://live.brucespringsteen.net/ That is exactly what the estate should be doing. [Edited 3/18/24 10:48am]

Selling merch from the Boss?

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #45 posted 03/18/24 12:08pm

LILpoundCAKE

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MIRvmn1 said:

LILpoundCAKE said:

I have this hunger for more, but not just for the sake of it, I just want to expand the scope
on what we know from him.

Even the D&P SDE is nice in that regard as in it makes his discography that much broader.

And so I want that expansion to continue in multiple places at once. Not in just one era or
one defined album per year.

I really do wish we would get 3 releases each year: 1 SDE release of an 80s album, 1 SDE
of a post WB album and one release of something we don't know yet, like an album he did
some work on but ultimately shelved or a great live release, like a box with a rehearsal or
soundcheck, a full show and an aftershow. like a series that also continues to build.

Surely the market can handle 3 of such?

I agree. They should release both PR SDE and prince SDE this year and a full Musicology show since it's Musicology 20th anniversary this year.


100% on all of that nod


May U Live 2 See The Release of Parade SDE
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Reply #46 posted 03/18/24 3:17pm

WhiteSandsHide
away11

nayroo2002 said:



WhiteSandsHideaway11 said:


https://live.brucespringsteen.net/ That is exactly what the estate should be doing. [Edited 3/18/24 10:48am]

Selling merch from the Boss?



lol - no.

but a consistent stream of live Prince releases every few weeks for purchase? Yes.
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Reply #47 posted 03/18/24 8:44pm

RODSERLING

One thing is for sure, is that they already missed the anniversary date ( june 25).
That means that, when all the industry and medias will praise and remember the 40th anniversary, there will be no release in stores that could have been marketed for free.
Well done MakeMillions.
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Reply #48 posted 03/19/24 9:27am

funkbabyandthe
babysitters

Film came out in july. Still time....
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Reply #49 posted 03/19/24 10:05am

RODSERLING

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

Film came out in july. Still time....


It s the album they are re-releasing, not the movie.
This is so lame to miss the album release anniversary, with the only few buzzes they could have.

It s not like they had to make Prince record an album, they have already the tracks on The Vault.
That's incredible.
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Reply #50 posted 03/19/24 10:29am

nayroo2002

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i realize there is a slight time difference between Europe and the USA, but isn't it still March, not June?

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we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #51 posted 03/19/24 11:01am

MIRvmn1

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It could still be an announcement next month for a June release but it's worrying that there still haven't been any kind of leaks.
U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn
Free the prince SDE now!
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Reply #52 posted 03/19/24 2:31pm

nayroo2002

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leaks = ads = hype = no release = sadface

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #53 posted 03/19/24 4:13pm

RODSERLING

nayroo2002 said:

i realize there is a slight time difference between Europe and the USA, but isn't it still March, not June?



You need three months between the announcement and the release.
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Reply #54 posted 03/19/24 4:17pm

RODSERLING

nayroo2002 said:

leaks = ads = hype = no release = sadface



There were leaks for every estate releases months before the thing was even officially announced.

Here, we have absolutely nothing on the boxset.
N.O.T.H.I.N.G.
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Reply #55 posted 03/20/24 3:53am

JorisE73

RODSERLING said:

nayroo2002 said:

leaks = ads = hype = no release = sadface

There were leaks for every estate releases months before the thing was even officially announced. Here, we have absolutely nothing on the boxset. N.O.T.H.I.N.G.



depends on where you look for info, I think.

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Reply #56 posted 03/20/24 4:11am

ghostof82

Warner Bros are releasing the Purple Rain movie on 4K UHD for the 40th, looks like that may be the first announcement of what's coming.
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Reply #57 posted 03/20/24 5:59am

RODSERLING

JorisE73 said:



RODSERLING said:


nayroo2002 said:

leaks = ads = hype = no release = sadface



There were leaks for every estate releases months before the thing was even officially announced. Here, we have absolutely nothing on the boxset. N.O.T.H.I.N.G.



depends on where you look for info, I think.



And where do you look to have the information it will be released by June 25 ?
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Reply #58 posted 03/20/24 7:28am

JorisE73

RODSERLING said:

JorisE73 said:



depends on where you look for info, I think.

And where do you look to have the information it will be released by June 25 ?


I don't know, I didn't say anything of the like about your made up date.
In the last 6 to 12 months enough info has been shared on things regarding this years releases on other places than here (as usual for the last 8 years) and this is what you were discussing and not your made up date so stay on this topic please, because your questin above doesn't make sense.

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Reply #59 posted 03/20/24 7:42am

Vannormal

LILpoundCAKE said:

I have this hunger for more, but not just for the sake of it, I just want to expand the scope
on what we know from him.

Even the D&P SDE is nice in that regard as in it makes his discography that much broader.

And so I want that expansion to continue in multiple places at once. Not in just one era or
one defined album per year.

I really do wish we would get 3 releases each year: 1 SDE release of an 80s album, 1 SDE
of a post WB album and one release of something we don't know yet, like an album he did
some work on but ultimately shelved or a great live release, like a box with a rehearsal or
soundcheck, a full show and an aftershow. like a series that also continues to build.

Surely the market can handle 3 of such?

Honestly, about that (mediocre release of the) D&P SDE (imho)... yes it makes the whole Prince spectrum broader, true.

For me, they should make those edit versions and (known) extended versions plus (known) remixes, only available in super high quality via downloads.

I don't need 10 vinyls or 7 CD's (that were not even completely full) that to be honest. (I don't think I'm the only one here). I know it's for vinyl lovers and completists.

While the live DVD was so much more interesting, original and fun to have, and the CD verison of it as well.

During each new album release, Prince did so much more that is interesting to have for fans and new fans.

Like unreleased video material, unseen clips, rehearsals, short performances, TV appearances, other live shows, after shows, work done for others, maybe even scetches of songs, piano rehearasals, etc. Alternative artwork choices, graphic ideas, etc.

A SDE-package for me would be so much more fun if the SURPIRSE element was there, instead of these edits etc. Use these vinyls and CD's or more DVD's for surprises. Why not even sum up a chronological list of what he did per project? And what he didn't do? Ideas he had that never got materialised? Information like that would make the whole spectrum of every album project so much more richer and fun for everyone.

With every SDE, there is 75% we all already heard and have. And i also know tha most want to have a better quality of the known material. Remastering these days is not expensive anymore, and is a must so to say fo rmost, although I care less for remastered versions.

The Dolby Atmos was far more interesting. It gave you another perspective on the sound, the mix, the layers of never before heard elements.

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