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Reply #330 posted 11/29/17 3:16pm

PennyPurple

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nelcp777 said:

jstar69 said:

Anyone know what happened to the supposed new release that Sharon said we’d have before year end? Or did I dream that?

No idea, but I do wonder why Sharon's Q&A and the poll for the next release are not a sticky anymore. I was really looking forward to Part 3.

On Sept 29, June7 said he had the answers to part 3 and was working on getting them posted. I haven't seen or heard anything out of him since. I've even messaged him, and he hasn't even looked at the message. I think he is MIA

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Reply #331 posted 11/29/17 3:24pm

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nelcp777 said:

jstar69 said:

Anyone know what happened to the supposed new release that Sharon said we’d have before year end? Or did I dream that?

No idea, but I do wonder why Sharon's Q&A and the poll for the next release are not a sticky anymore. I was really looking forward to Part 3.

Yep they aren't a sticky anymore and neither is the questions for Cat. Not only are they NOT stickeys they have totally disappeared from the forum. sad


Seriously, why do they fawn all over themselves and have us ask questions if they aren't going to follow thru on their own threads & then take them totally down?

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Reply #332 posted 11/29/17 4:27pm

rogifan

New merch website: https://www.princehitnrun.com/store/

Omarr claims this is just a taste and more stuff is coming.
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Reply #333 posted 11/29/17 4:55pm

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rogifan said:

New merch website: https://www.princehitnrun.com/store/ Omarr claims this is just a taste and more stuff is coming.


Confusing. Why isn't this stuff on the officialpaisleypark.com site? Is this set up in connection with that band he put together, what was it, New Power Soul or something like that?


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Reply #334 posted 11/30/17 3:12am

rogifan

Mumio said:



rogifan said:


New merch website: https://www.princehitnrun.com/store/ Omarr claims this is just a taste and more stuff is coming.


Confusing. Why isn't this stuff on the officialpaisleypark.com site? Is this set up in connection with that band he put together, what was it, New Power Soul or something like that?


[Edited 11/29/17 17:16pm]


And why is Omarr the only one promoting it? I don’t get any of it.
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Reply #335 posted 11/30/17 3:26am

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rogifan said:

Mumio said:


Confusing. Why isn't this stuff on the officialpaisleypark.com site? Is this set up in connection with that band he put together, what was it, New Power Soul or something like that?


[Edited 11/29/17 17:16pm]

And why is Omarr the only one promoting it? I don’t get any of it.

I thought the same thing...

It appears that there are more than one or two rifts amongst the siblings

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Reply #336 posted 11/30/17 3:37am

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Mumio said:



rogifan said:


New merch website: https://www.princehitnrun.com/store/ Omarr claims this is just a taste and more stuff is coming.


Confusing. Why isn't this stuff on the officialpaisleypark.com site? Is this set up in connection with that band he put together, what was it, New Power Soul or something like that?


[Edited 11/29/17 17:16pm]



The estate members now seem to be competing against themselves. Apparently, there are now three 'official' clothing outlets.
[Edited 11/30/17 3:57am]
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Reply #337 posted 11/30/17 4:15am

rogifan

Lovejunky said:



rogifan said:


Mumio said:



Confusing. Why isn't this stuff on the officialpaisleypark.com site? Is this set up in connection with that band he put together, what was it, New Power Soul or something like that?



[Edited 11/29/17 17:16pm]



And why is Omarr the only one promoting it? I don’t get any of it.

I thought the same thing...


It appears that there are more than one or two rifts amongst the siblings


Makes it harder to know what’s really official or not. Even the twitter account PRNFamily isn’t all the sibs it’s jusr Omarr. They need to come together and stop all this competing BS.
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Reply #338 posted 11/30/17 7:17am

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rogifan said:

Lovejunky said:

I thought the same thing...

It appears that there are more than one or two rifts amongst the siblings

Makes it harder to know what’s really official or not. Even the twitter account PRNFamily isn’t all the sibs it’s jusr Omarr. They need to come together and stop all this competing BS.

If you go down to the bottom of the page you can see that it has been approved by the estate. This is Omarr working his own business with estate permission. Quite frankly this makes more sense then SNJ crying about disbursements. I do not like the NPG band he is promoting by his merchandise looks really good and I hope he sticks with this and leaves the music alone unless he is involved with unrealashed material.

Prince left his sibs about a thousand different ways to make money no reason to let other people profit.

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Reply #339 posted 11/30/17 7:17am

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The site states at the bottom of the page "The Prince Estate"

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Reply #340 posted 11/30/17 8:12am

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laurarichardson said:

If you go down to the bottom of the page you can see that it has been approved by the estate. This is Omarr working his own business with estate permission. Quite frankly this makes more sense then SNJ crying about disbursements. I do not like the NPG band he is promoting by his merchandise looks really good and I hope he sticks with this and leaves the music alone unless he is involved with unrealashed material.

Prince left his sibs about a thousand different ways to make money no reason to let other people profit.


laura, there's a lot you said here that does make sense. For me personally, if he drops that bs with that band he was promoting, then I'll look at what he's selling and maybe get something. Otherwise....nope. I've got a few things from the officialpaisleypark site, and in general like what they are selling. There's a couple more things on my Christmas wish list smile


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Reply #341 posted 11/30/17 8:13am

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OperatingThetan said:

Mumio said:


Confusing. Why isn't this stuff on the officialpaisleypark.com site? Is this set up in connection with that band he put together, what was it, New Power Soul or something like that?


[Edited 11/29/17 17:16pm]

The estate members now seem to be competing against themselves. Apparently, there are now three 'official' clothing outlets. [Edited 11/30/17 3:57am]



OperatingThetan, what is the third site please?

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Reply #342 posted 11/30/17 9:08am

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Mumio said:



OperatingThetan said:


Mumio said:



Confusing. Why isn't this stuff on the officialpaisleypark.com site? Is this set up in connection with that band he put together, what was it, New Power Soul or something like that?



[Edited 11/29/17 17:16pm]



The estate members now seem to be competing against themselves. Apparently, there are now three 'official' clothing outlets. [Edited 11/30/17 3:57am]



OperatingThetan, what is the third site please?



BravadoUSA, Paisley Park and now, the Prince Estate. At least as I have read it by someone more informed.
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Reply #343 posted 11/30/17 9:30am

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OperatingThetan said:

Mumio said:



OperatingThetan, what is the third site please?

BravadoUSA, Paisley Park and now, the Prince Estate. At least as I have read it by someone more informed.


Thank you, I'm gonna check it out. We have PP, Omarr, so is this gonna be SNJ lol

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Reply #344 posted 11/30/17 10:40am

rogifan

laurarichardson said:



rogifan said:


Lovejunky said:


I thought the same thing...


It appears that there are more than one or two rifts amongst the siblings



Makes it harder to know what’s really official or not. Even the twitter account PRNFamily isn’t all the sibs it’s jusr Omarr. They need to come together and stop all this competing BS.

If you go down to the bottom of the page you can see that it has been approved by the estate. This is Omarr working his own business with estate permission. Quite frankly this makes more sense then SNJ crying about disbursements. I do not like the NPG band he is promoting by his merchandise looks really good and I hope he sticks with this and leaves the music alone unless he is involved with unrealashed material.



Prince left his sibs about a thousand different ways to make money no reason to let other people profit.




Enough with the competing agendas. There should be ONE official website for all things Prince. This would include the ability to buy Paisley Park tour tickets, merchandise and music. Having all these different websites run by different entities is ridiculous. Someone needs to take the time to put together a proper official website. Bring Sam Jennings back on board if necessary.
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #345 posted 11/30/17 11:21am

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rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

If you go down to the bottom of the page you can see that it has been approved by the estate. This is Omarr working his own business with estate permission. Quite frankly this makes more sense then SNJ crying about disbursements. I do not like the NPG band he is promoting by his merchandise looks really good and I hope he sticks with this and leaves the music alone unless he is involved with unrealashed material.

Prince left his sibs about a thousand different ways to make money no reason to let other people profit.

Enough with the competing agendas. There should be ONE official website for all things Prince. This would include the ability to buy Paisley Park tour tickets, merchandise and music. Having all these different websites run by different entities is ridiculous. Someone needs to take the time to put together a proper official website. Bring Sam Jennings back on board if necessary.

If you go to Bravdo's website nothing is listed under Prince's name at all. There are a couple of cheap shirts at Kohl's The whole deal was a complete waste of time but look who put it together.

The Paisley Park stuff is attached to the museum and makes sense.

I suspect when the family takes over we will get one good site for music and merchadise.

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Reply #346 posted 11/30/17 11:46am

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laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said: Enough with the competing agendas. There should be ONE official website for all things Prince. This would include the ability to buy Paisley Park tour tickets, merchandise and music. Having all these different websites run by different entities is ridiculous. Someone needs to take the time to put together a proper official website. Bring Sam Jennings back on board if necessary.

If you go to Bravdo's website nothing is listed under Prince's name at all. There are a couple of cheap shirts at Kohl's The whole deal was a complete waste of time but look who put it together.

The Paisley Park stuff is attached to the museum and makes sense.

I suspect when the family takes over we will get one good site for music and merchadise.

The BravadoUSA is a division of UMG.

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Reply #347 posted 11/30/17 12:05pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

If you go to Bravdo's website nothing is listed under Prince's name at all. There are a couple of cheap shirts at Kohl's The whole deal was a complete waste of time but look who put it together.

The Paisley Park stuff is attached to the museum and makes sense.

I suspect when the family takes over we will get one good site for music and merchadise.

The BravadoUSA is a division of UMG.

I know that is the reason you would think the website would have tons of merchandise.

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Reply #348 posted 11/30/17 12:26pm

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laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The BravadoUSA is a division of UMG.

I know that is the reason you would think the website would have tons of merchandise.

I think when the contract was rescinded UMG stopped doing everything for the Estate.

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Reply #349 posted 11/30/17 12:29pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

I know that is the reason you would think the website would have tons of merchandise.

I think when the contract was rescinded UMG stopped doing everything for the Estate.

I think so as well. They could care less about his publishing or merchandise. Remember Prince cut ties with UMG and Lonnie was close to people at UMG. The remaining parts of the deal are a big nothing burger.

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Reply #350 posted 11/30/17 12:35pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

I know that is the reason you would think the website would have tons of merchandise.

I think when the contract was rescinded UMG stopped doing everything for the Estate.

But would that constitute breach of contract?

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Reply #351 posted 11/30/17 12:39pm

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laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I think when the contract was rescinded UMG stopped doing everything for the Estate.

I think so as well. They could care less about his publishing or merchandise. Remember Prince cut ties with UMG and Lonnie was close to people at UMG. The remaining parts of the deal are a big nothing burger.

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Reply #352 posted 11/30/17 12:52pm

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nelcp777 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I think when the contract was rescinded UMG stopped doing everything for the Estate.

But would that constitute breach of contract?

Nelcp I dont think there is a contract in place any longer.

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Reply #353 posted 11/30/17 1:20pm

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nelcp777 said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




laurarichardson said:



I know that is the reason you would think the website would have tons of merchandise.



I think when the contract was rescinded UMG stopped doing everything for the Estate.



But would that constitute breach of contract?


—There is a co tract for merchandise and adminstration of publishing. Not sure what sort of merchandise contract allows for 3 designed shirts being sold and no other merchandise.
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Reply #354 posted 11/30/17 2:24pm

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laurarichardson said:

nelcp777 said:

But would that constitute breach of contract?

—There is a co tract for merchandise and adminstration of publishing. Not sure what sort of merchandise contract allows for 3 designed shirts being sold and no other merchandise.

Where is the contract because it was my understanding all contracts were rescinded?

Just asking.

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Reply #355 posted 11/30/17 3:07pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



laurarichardson said:


nelcp777 said:


But would that constitute breach of contract?



—There is a co tract for merchandise and adminstration of publishing. Not sure what sort of merchandise contract allows for 3 designed shirts being sold and no other merchandise.

Where is the contract because it was my understanding all contracts were rescinded?


Just asking.


I have to find it but the licensing deal was the only thing rescinded. The deal with Bravodo was kept and UMG died adminstration for his catalogue although they appear to spend no time actually dealing with copyright infringement which according to Dr. Funkenberry was the reason Prince took the adminstration of his music from them and brought in house.
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Reply #356 posted 11/30/17 4:38pm

rogifan

Omarr tweeted this today:

PRNFamily® (@PRNFamily)
11/30/17, 8:49 AM
This experience is the first of many Official Prince Estate online offers.
Possibilities are limitless 💜
Suggestions are always welcomed - it’s important to spread the word as this directly benefits the estate.
✌🏽
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #357 posted 11/30/17 4:40pm

morningsong

So one benefits PP and the other the Estate. shrug

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Reply #358 posted 11/30/17 4:49pm

rogifan

morningsong said:

So one benefits PP and the other the Estate. shrug


Isn’t PP part of the estate?
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Reply #359 posted 11/30/17 5:18pm

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laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Where is the contract because it was my understanding all contracts were rescinded?

Just asking.

I have to find it but the licensing deal was the only thing rescinded. The deal with Bravodo was kept and UMG died adminstration for his catalogue although they appear to spend no time actually dealing with copyright infringement which according to Dr. Funkenberry was the reason Prince took the adminstration of his music from them and brought in house.

It may have been part of the settlement with Comerica that all ties with UMG would be severed.

So we are not really sure UMG is working on copyright infringement although we know MarkMonitor is working online copyright infringement.

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