laurarichardson said:

What stood out to me was first on 4-26 there was an emergency phone conferee hearing appointing Bremmer ...then Gary Hansen who was brought in by?? Did not work for Bremmer and Never having no certificate of rep filed w/ the court.
Hearing all of this I'm wondering How was Hansen able to gain access for anything? And wonder who else was able to go in under the radar..again just another doubt.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:

--I meant it is odd that some people think that Hansen did not work for Breamer. Why else would he be the one turning over the computer to the the police. Now the computer was moved from P's living quarters and it does say in the warrant that e-mail was his primary means of communicating. The laptop should have been confiscated on the 21st.

What stood out to me was first on 4-26 there was an emergency phone conferee hearing appointing Bremmer ...then Gary Hansen who was brought in by?? Did not work for Bremmer and Never having no certificate of rep filed w/ the court. Hearing all of this I'm wondering How was Hansen able to gain access for anything? And wonder who else was able to go in under the radar..again just another doubt.

With Bremer who knows what the hell was going on. They would not allow the charity events to take place because it was a crime scence yet his funeral was in PP and this joker was in the building.

How and those cancellations causes two lawsuits because apparently their was no cancellation clause in the contract not even a act of god clause. Why can't attorney's read the contract and figure out a lawsuit was coming because once again it is not their money so they do not care.

At every turn they have tried to break contracts in had in place.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:

--I meant it is odd that some people think that Hansen did not work for Breamer. Why else would he be the one turning over the computer to the the police. Now the computer was moved from P's living quarters and it does say in the warrant that e-mail was his primary means of communicating. The laptop should have been confiscated on the 21st.

What stood out to me was first on 4-26 there was an emergency phone conferee hearing appointing Bremmer ...then Gary Hansen who was brought in by?? Did not work for Bremmer and Never having no certificate of rep filed w/ the court. Hearing all of this I'm wondering How was Hansen able to gain access for anything? And wonder who else was able to go in under the radar..again just another doubt.

Probably one of the siblings (Tyka or Omarr) contacted Hansen to go to PP and meet the police there for them.

laurarichardson said:

good points....and think that someone has been playing stupid for sometime. He most likely had Ps password.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Possibly but wouldn't he still have to be certified through the court even if Tyka or Omar were involved?
I questioned it based on just reading over the mess with Bremmer in the Estate and got to thinking what else they were up to. It's unreal!

laurarichardson said:

Nothing Bremmer has done made much sense, seems they were not interested in promoting or protecting Prince but were looking to pay back certain people (they had an agenda)

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:

With Bremer who knows what the hell was going on. They would not allow the charity events to take place because it was a crime scence yet his funeral was in PP and this joker was in the building.

How and those cancellations causes two lawsuits because apparently their was no cancellation clause in the contract not even a act of god clause. Why can't attorney's read the contract and figure out a lawsuit was coming because once again it is not their money so they do not care.

At every turn they have tried to break contracts in had in place.

Nothing Bremmer has done made much sense, seems they were not interested in promoting or protecting Prince but were looking to pay back certain people (they had an agenda)

He did business with that bank for 30 years and I bet they made plenty of money with him and it just goes to show you how when it comes to money trust no one.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Probably one of the siblings (Tyka or Omarr) contacted Hansen to go to PP and meet the police there for them.

Possibly but wouldn't he still have to be certified through the court even if Tyka or Omar were involved? I questioned it based on just reading over the mess with Bremmer in the Estate and got to thinking what else they were up to. It's unreal!

No, he wouldnt need to be certified by the Court.

If he went after Bremer was appointed that day on 4-26-16

then Bremer probably contacted him as a criminal defense attorney

to meet the police at the premises to make sure the warrant was

executed properly, and that the computer was the only item taken.

Bremer used other attorneys in the past without the attorneys

formally filing a Notice of Appearance of Counsel.

If you recall, Bremer employed P's prior divorce attorney to represent

them in the unsealing of the M2 divorce records.

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People, Paisley Park was locked down IMMEDIATELY as a crime scene.
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Even chef Ray Roberts couldn't get in. People were escorted. That memorial on the weekend after his death, art Paisley, was very controlled. No one could wander around. They couldn't get into familiar places. They were limited to a certain area.
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AND EVEN if someone had managed to get into his computer x it would leave a trace. Everything you do is dated and timestamped.
Regular police do not analyze computers. Really.
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All police are educated. It's not an out of high school progessiin unless you are confusing police and low-paid security guards. QUIT MAKING SHIT UP AND QUIT BELIEVING THOSE WHO DO.
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And of course wills do not expire. That's why you are advised to review yours periodically.
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[Edited 4/28/17 9:21am]

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: Possibly but wouldn't he still have to be certified through the court even if Tyka or Omar were involved? I questioned it based on just reading over the mess with Bremmer in the Estate and got to thinking what else they were up to. It's unreal!

No, he wouldnt need to be certified by the Court.

If he went after Bremer was appointed that day on 4-26-16

then Bremer probably contacted him as a criminal defense attorney

to meet the police at the premises to make sure the warrant was

executed properly, and that the computer was the only item taken.

Bremer used other attorneys in the past without the attorneys

formally filing a Notice of Appearance of Counsel.

If you recall, Bremer employed P's prior divorce attorney to represent

them in the unsealing of the M2 divorce records.

After googling Hansen, he is a litigation attorney out of MPLS, unless there are more than 1. I wondered who appointed him to represent Prince. I guess Bremer?

laurarichardson said:

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Those are the minimum qualifications to apply.
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Go to mdsp.maryland.gov/careers...ooper.aspx and read.
There is also an official police academy that comes next in the process.
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[Edited 4/28/17 10:10am]

There is a difference between State Troopers, City Police, and Sheriff Deputies.

Usually you only need a high school diploma to apply to City Police Departments,

and the Sheriff Department.

You go through rigorous training and education at the Police Academy after being accepted.

Before you can become a Detective you usually have to have so many years under your

belt as a police officer, and then additional training to become a Detective.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

There is a difference between State Troopers, City Police, and Sheriff Deputies.

Usually you only need a high school diploma to apply to City Police Departments,

and the Sheriff Department.

You go through rigorous training and education at the Police Academy after being accepted.

Before you can become a Detective you usually have to have so many years under your

belt as a police officer, and then additional training to become a Detective.

Thank You!!!

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

There is a difference between State Troopers, City Police, and Sheriff Deputies.

Usually you only need a high school diploma to apply to City Police Departments,

and the Sheriff Department.

You go through rigorous training and education at the Police Academy after being accepted.

Before you can become a Detective you usually have to have so many years under your

belt as a police officer, and then additional training to become a Detective.

We could be here all day because it varies across the country. One of the things that has been discussed about police misconduct is the lack of education and training. This issue has been discussed repeatedly.

I also think more education is needed than 60 credits. I also know people in law enforcement who have bachelor’s degrees.

precioux said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

There is a difference between State Troopers, City Police, and Sheriff Deputies.

Usually you only need a high school diploma to apply to City Police Departments,

and the Sheriff Department.

You go through rigorous training and education at the Police Academy after being accepted.

Before you can become a Detective you usually have to have so many years under your

belt as a police officer, and then additional training to become a Detective.

Thank You!!!

What are you thanking her for.? You do not even know what the hell you are talking about as usual.

You know what Sheriffs do in the Washington Metropolitian area?

They evict people and pick up fugitives. Not really all that brain draining. When police are dealing with much more complex matters that often result in death and destruction. With the lawsuits following because someone has a high school diploma.

Speak on what you know.

nelcp777 said:

Yes. Exactly. Bremner appointed him in all likelihood because of his criminal expertise. ( as i mentioned in previous was a former head of Criminal for Attorney General of Minnesota office). Partner at Fox Rothschild. ( the same law firm which handled the IRS audit going on of Prince 2009-12 tax returns for Bremner and the 2016 return). There is only one Hansen in the Hennepin County Bar Association. His prior firm was Oppenheimer.
[Edited 4/28/17 11:01am]

laytonian said:

. People, Paisley Park was locked down IMMEDIATELY as a crime scene. . Even chef Ray Roberts couldn't get in. People were escorted. That memorial on the weekend after his death, art Paisley, was very controlled. No one could wander around. They couldn't get into familiar places. They were limited to a certain area. . AND EVEN if someone had managed to get into his computer x it would leave a trace. Everything you do is dated and timestamped. Regular police do not analyze computers. Really. . All police are educated. It's not an out of high school progessiin unless you are confusing police and low-paid security guards. QUIT MAKING SHIT UP AND QUIT BELIEVING THOSE WHO DO. . And of course wills do not expire. That's why you are advised to review yours periodically. . [Edited 4/28/17 9:21am]

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Where you at the memorial? If you did not attend how do you know anything?

We already discussed the computer and how if someone tampered with it they would get caught. Next

We never said regular police analyze computers but most departments do have staff that can do it but Carver called in an expert from VA with the DEA. Next

Many police departments require a H.S. diploma and some 60 credits as a requirement. If that is your idea of educated good for you.

No one is making up anything. You are late to the conversation.

laytonian said:

laurarichardson said:

That is good for NYS but you would be surprised at how many states, cities and municipalities only require a high school diploma. Half the time officers do not even know the laws they are enforcing.

In order to become a Maryland State Trooper, you must:

• Be a United States citizen.
• Possess a high school diploma or GED.
• Possess a valid driver's license in any state and have a satisfactory driving record.
• Possess visual acuity correctable to 20/20, binocularly.
• Be at least 20 years of age but not older than 59.

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The duties include but are not limited to: enforcing the laws of the Commonwealth of Virginia; investigating criminal and traffic offenses; effecting arrests; communicating effectively both orally and in writing; testifying in court; safely operating a law enforcement vehicle; effectively interviewing individuals; performing lifesaving functions; safely and effectively utilizing firearms; performing effective searches of people and property; and reading and comprehending a variety of legal and administrative documents.

The minimum qualifications for State Trooper are:

• APPLICANTS MUST BE RESIDENTS IN A STATE EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI WITHIN THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES
• MILITARY APPLICANTS MUST LIVE IN OR HOME OF RECORD MUST BE IN ONE OF THE STATES EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI
• must be at least 21 years of age on date of hire
• must be a high school graduate or have a GED
• college coursework and/or related experience PREFERRED
• must be a United States citizen on day of testing
• must be of good character and reputation as established by a background investigation to include but not limited to: a polygraph examination, educational achievements, prior work experience, character and reputation, credit history and police record
• must be in possession of a valid driver’s license and a good driving record
• must be willing to relocate anywhere in the state based on department needs
• must be willing to travel at your own expense to Virginia State Police Headquarters located at 7700 Midlothian Turnpike, North Chesterfield,

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. Those are the minimum qualifications to apply. . Go to mdsp.maryland.gov/careers...ooper.aspx and read. There is also an official police academy that comes next in the process. . . [Edited 4/28/17 10:10am]

Brain trust I live in the area. Trust me they have people with the min qualifications.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: Possibly but wouldn't he still have to be certified through the court even if Tyka or Omar were involved? I questioned it based on just reading over the mess with Bremmer in the Estate and got to thinking what else they were up to. It's unreal!

No, he wouldnt need to be certified by the Court.

If he went after Bremer was appointed that day on 4-26-16

then Bremer probably contacted him as a criminal defense attorney

to meet the police at the premises to make sure the warrant was

executed properly, and that the computer was the only item taken.

Bremer used other attorneys in the past without the attorneys

formally filing a Notice of Appearance of Counsel.

If you recall, Bremer employed P's prior divorce attorney to represent

them in the unsealing of the M2 divorce records.

They employed more lawyers so they could keep billing the estate.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

My best educated guess is given that the computer warrant came prior to the physical court hearing enough urgency legally speaking arose that allowed for the telephone conference providing special letters of administration. Given the warrants accompanying affidavit stating the officer met with Gary Hansen at Paisley- in all likelihood once Bremner brought him in on limited retainer ( as they did with other lawyers and experts) an appointment was made so the warrant could be carried out same day. Nothing unusual, just smart of Bremner to ensure competent representation in the criminal component.hopefully that clarifies for anyone confused.

sablepom said:

Thanks for clarifying

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

Thank You!!!

What are you thanking her for.? You do not even know what the hell you are talking about as usual.

You know what Sheriffs do in the Washington Metropolitian area?

They evict people and pick up fugitives. Not really all that brain draining. When police are dealing with much more complex matters that often result in death and destruction. With the lawsuits following because someone has a high school diploma.

Speak on what you know.

What you fail to realize, LR is that I was actually agreeing with YOU as well....in my state it is the same as yours and what you posted. What the hell are you talking about??? Seriously, get a life.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Yes:)

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

Thank You!!!

What are you thanking her for.? You do not even know what the hell you are talking about as usual.

You know what Sheriffs do in the Washington Metropolitian area?

They evict people and pick up fugitives. Not really all that brain draining. When police are dealing with much more complex matters that often result in death and destruction. With the lawsuits following because someone has a high school diploma.

Speak on what you know.

Oh my... Detectives are trained. They just don't graduate from the academy and become detectives. They utilize training and on the job experience (years not months). Even if PP was "compromised", in my personal opinion, and I am not LE, never have been, the compromise/contamination is at most minimal.

I understand many defending Prince's honor and character. I get it. At one time, in my eyes, he could do no wrong. He is human. He had flaws/issues, whatever you want to call it. But, in my opinion, Prince can not be excused. His legacy will not be tarnished.

It doesn't matter if he was addicted or had a dependency. It doesn't matter why he took pain pills. The reality is, Prince od on illegal pills. I am supportive of the investigation on who and how the illegal pills were obtained.

I was shocked at the information that has been released. I would never have expected Prince to have addiction/dependency on pain meds. All it shows to me, no one is above this epidemic. It does not lessen his work, legacy or him as a person. It is tragic and sad.

These are my opinions. I am not forcing them on anyone. I believe the evidence is there. I use to want to believe there was some underlying medical condition, but the more that is released/leaked and the more I read, the less likely I believe it.

I am not going to criticize the LE and invesitgators. Who am I to tell them their jobs? I would not want someone without any accounting experience telling me how to balance my clients books. There is a difference in trying to determine what happened and criticizing everyone and there actions. It is almost to the point of getting old and making me want to withdraw from the negativity on here.

I respect everyone's take on what is going on and have been respectful to those who engage in discussions. As time goes on, more people will talk. The Prince image we have in our head, from him being mysterious and silent, may not be the same Prince image. I think we are beginning to see a little of that. Just my 2 cents. Sorry for the ramble.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

There is a difference between State Troopers, City Police, and Sheriff Deputies.

Usually you only need a high school diploma to apply to City Police Departments,

and the Sheriff Department.

You go through rigorous training and education at the Police Academy after being accepted.

Before you can become a Detective you usually have to have so many years under your

belt as a police officer, and then additional training to become a Detective.

+1 for my state as well.

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

What are you thanking her for.? You do not even know what the hell you are talking about as usual.

You know what Sheriffs do in the Washington Metropolitian area?

They evict people and pick up fugitives. Not really all that brain draining. When police are dealing with much more complex matters that often result in death and destruction. With the lawsuits following because someone has a high school diploma.

Speak on what you know.

What you fail to realize, LR is that I was actually agreeing with YOU as well....in my state it is the same as yours and what you posted. What the hell are you talking about??? Seriously, get a life.

I am sorry but you are saying Thank you to LIJAG comments so why would I think you are agreeing with me? In addtion, you spend so much time not agreeing with me I expect push back.

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

Thank You!!!

What are you thanking her for.? You do not even know what the hell you are talking about as usual.

You know what Sheriffs do in the Washington Metropolitian area?

They evict people and pick up fugitives. Not really all that brain draining. When police are dealing with much more complex matters that often result in death and destruction. With the lawsuits following because someone has a high school diploma.

Speak on what you know.

nelcp777 said:

laurarichardson said:

What are you thanking her for.? You do not even know what the hell you are talking about as usual.

You know what Sheriffs do in the Washington Metropolitian area?

They evict people and pick up fugitives. Not really all that brain draining. When police are dealing with much more complex matters that often result in death and destruction. With the lawsuits following because someone has a high school diploma.

Speak on what you know.

Oh my... Detectives are trained. They just don't graduate from the academy and become detectives. They utilize training and on the job experience (years not months). Even if PP was "compromised", in my personal opinion, and I am not LE, never have been, the compromise/contamination is at most minimal.

I understand many defending Prince's honor and character. I get it. At one time, in my eyes, he could do no wrong. He is human. He had flaws/issues, whatever you want to call it. But, in my opinion, Prince can not be excused. His legacy will not be tarnished.

It doesn't matter if he was addicted or had a dependency. It doesn't matter why he took pain pills. The reality is, Prince od on illegal pills. I am supportive of the investigation on who and how the illegal pills were obtained.

I was shocked at the information that has been released. I would never have expected Prince to have addiction/dependency on pain meds. All it shows to me, no one is above this epidemic. It does not lessen his work, legacy or him as a person. It is tragic and sad.

These are my opinions. I am not forcing them on anyone. I believe the evidence is there. I use to want to believe there was some underlying medical condition, but the more that is released/leaked and the more I read, the less likely I believe it.

I am not going to criticize the LE and invesitgators. Who am I to tell them their jobs? I would not want someone without any accounting experience telling me how to balance my clients books. There is a difference in trying to determine what happened and criticizing everyone and there actions. It is almost to the point of getting old and making me want to withdraw from the negativity on here.

I respect everyone's take on what is going on and have been respectful to those who engage in discussions. As time goes on, more people will talk. The Prince image we have in our head, from him being mysterious and silent, may not be the same Prince image. I think we are beginning to see a little of that. Just my 2 cents. Sorry for the ramble.

I did not say anything about detectives.

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

What you fail to realize, LR is that I was actually agreeing with YOU as well....in my state it is the same as yours and what you posted. What the hell are you talking about??? Seriously, get a life.

I am sorry but you are saying Thank you to LIJAG comments so why would I think you are agreeing with me? In addtion, you spend so much time not agreeing with me I expect push back.

My response was to ISLIJAG, where the fuck did that concern you?

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

I am sorry but you are saying Thank you to LIJAG comments so why would I think you are agreeing with me? In addtion, you spend so much time not agreeing with me I expect push back.

My response was to ISLIJAG, where the fuck did that concern you?

Because this is an open message board.