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TrivialPursuit

"If I Was Your Girlfriend" - street vendor source!

So, it's long been debated about where the "look at the bargains over here ladies" line came from at the beginning of IIWYG. It was traced to a rapper in 1980, Spyder D "Big Apple Rappin'". Then, it can be heard on "Meadowlands" on Jefferson Airplane's 1969 The Volunteers of Amerika album (only in the right channel).

But if you go back five years from there, to an album called Authentic Sound Effects Vol. 10 from 1964, there is a New York street vendor track. That's the same one. It's on Spotify.

Prince also used the series of albums for "Pop Life" (the crowd noise), "I Wonder U" and/or "Do U Lie?" (I think), and "Lady Cab Driver" (the traffic sounds).

So that 1964 sound effect series is the original source. Vol 10, track 8. Track 31 is a wedding recessional and sounds like the same clip on IIWYG.

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Reply #1 posted 04/06/17 8:57pm

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So all that "we can say definitively that he's talking about parking and not bargains" stuff can finally be proven wrong??? Thank Christ

Good find!
[Edited 4/6/17 20:59pm]
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Reply #2 posted 04/06/17 8:59pm

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I always thought he said..."look at the sausage over here ladies."

Ha!

Interesting find.

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Reply #3 posted 04/06/17 10:46pm

PeteSilas

wasn't there an old thread where someone said it was robin williams in Moscow on The Hudson?

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Reply #4 posted 04/06/17 11:48pm

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PeteSilas said:

wasn't there an old thread where someone said it was robin williams in Moscow on The Hudson?


Yeah, I saw that one when I searched. But it wasn't. This dates to 1964, and it's pretty obvious it's the one. Apparently, it's a popular thing because it was used at least twice that we know of before Prince used it. Crazy how something so random gets picked at so much.

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Reply #5 posted 04/07/17 2:05am

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I imagine Eye Records will do a boot of this now and we'll see people on eBay paying $70 for a pressed CD copy of it.

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Reply #6 posted 04/07/17 2:51am

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TrivialPursuit said:

So, it's long been debated about where the "look at the bargains over here ladies" line came from at the beginning of IIWYG. It was traced to a rapper in 1980, Spyder D "Big Apple Rappin'". Then, it can be heard on "Meadowlands" on Jefferson Airplane's 1969 The Volunteers of Amerika album (only in the right channel).

But if you go back five years from there, to an album called Authentic Sound Effects Vol. 10 from 1964, there is a New York street vendor track. That's the same one. It's on Spotify.

Prince also used the series of albums for "Pop Life" (the crowd noise), "I Wonder U" and/or "Do U Lie?" (I think), and "Lady Cab Driver" (the traffic sounds).

So that 1964 sound effect series is the original source. Vol 10, track 8. Track 31 is a wedding recessional and sounds like the same clip on IIWYG.

I always thought it said, "Look at the bargains offered here, ladies"... I'm happy to be wrong... I thought it was a self-deprecating joke on Prince's part.

[Edited 4/7/17 2:51am]

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Reply #7 posted 04/07/17 3:41am

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jjam said:

I imagine Eye Records will do a boot of this now and we'll see people on eBay paying $70 for a pressed CD copy of it.

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Reply #8 posted 04/07/17 2:56pm

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For anyone not using Spotify it can also be sampled for free (30-second snippet is all you need for this) on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F03E1HU/ref=dm_ws_tlw_trk8.

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Reply #9 posted 04/07/17 3:06pm

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TrivialPursuit said:


Prince also used the series of albums for "Pop Life" (the crowd noise), "I Wonder U" and/or "Do U Lie?" (I think), and "Lady Cab Driver" (the traffic sounds).


I heard that same traffic sound in All About Eve, so that one's even older. Anyway, interesting find!

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Reply #10 posted 04/07/17 3:16pm

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Circler said:

For anyone not using Spotify it can also be sampled for free (30-second snippet is all you need for this) on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F03E1HU/ref=dm_ws_tlw_trk8.

Very cool.

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Reply #11 posted 04/07/17 4:23pm

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eyewishuheaven said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Prince also used the series of albums for "Pop Life" (the crowd noise), "I Wonder U" and/or "Do U Lie?" (I think), and "Lady Cab Driver" (the traffic sounds).


I heard that same traffic sound in All About Eve, so that one's even older. Anyway, interesting find!

for the longest time, in the media, books and mags, the crowd noise in poplife was said to be from the infamous live fiasco where he opened for the rolling stones.

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Reply #12 posted 04/07/17 5:07pm

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PeteSilas said:

for the longest time, in the media, books and mags, the crowd noise in poplife was said to be from the infamous live fiasco where he opened for the rolling stones.


Yeah, I remember those stories, but it was never true. That sampler might have it in there somewhere. The Wrestling Match track sorta feels like it, but there are cheers or "throw the bum out".

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Reply #13 posted 04/08/17 1:20am

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jjam said:

I imagine Eye Records will do a boot of this now and we'll see people on eBay paying $70 for a pressed CD copy of it.

lol

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Reply #14 posted 04/08/17 1:26am

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TrivialPursuit said:

...But if you go back five years from there, to an album called Authentic Sound Effects Vol. 10 from 1964...

The track "Jungle Drums" at around 0:30 was used for the intro on "Ta Mara and the Seen - Everybody Dance".

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Reply #15 posted 04/08/17 1:38am

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TrivialPursuit said:

So, it's long been debated about where the "look at the bargains over here ladies" line came from at the beginning of IIWYG. It was traced to a rapper in 1980, Spyder D "Big Apple Rappin'". Then, it can be heard on "Meadowlands" on Jefferson Airplane's 1969 The Volunteers of Amerika album (only in the right channel).

But if you go back five years from there, to an album called Authentic Sound Effects Vol. 10 from 1964, there is a New York street vendor track. That's the same one. It's on Spotify.

Prince also used the series of albums for "Pop Life" (the crowd noise), "I Wonder U" and/or "Do U Lie?" (I think), and "Lady Cab Driver" (the traffic sounds).

So that 1964 sound effect series is the original source. Vol 10, track 8. Track 31 is a wedding recessional and sounds like the same clip on IIWYG.

.

Why don't you link to the place where this was discovered, i.e. the Twitter thread that ended with this message: https://twitter.com/anild...3434454017 ?

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Reply #16 posted 04/08/17 2:16am

monkeytennis

You can also hear the traffic sounds in the background of the Paul Newman, Robert Redford movie The Sting.
Grits and gravy, cheese eggs and jam...
Butterscotch clouds, a tangerine and a side order of ham.
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Reply #17 posted 04/08/17 2:38am

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I can't imagine Prince listening to Sound Effects Albums. So does anyone know Whether it was Prince or maybe even Susan Rogers that found these samples?
Grits and gravy, cheese eggs and jam...
Butterscotch clouds, a tangerine and a side order of ham.
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Reply #18 posted 04/08/17 3:37am

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From same series, wedding march?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/...ts+wedding

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Reply #19 posted 04/08/17 3:42am

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The wedding march referenced in the first post in the thread, yes.


Also, HAY UFOCLUB, where did you get that story about parking from in the old thread?
[Edited 4/8/17 3:44am]
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Reply #20 posted 04/08/17 4:16am

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monkeytennis said:

I can't imagine Prince listening to Sound Effects Albums. So does anyone know Whether it was Prince or maybe even Susan Rogers that found these samples?


Idk though, what about that bit in Movie Star where he says "do you like environmental records?" razz
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Reply #21 posted 04/08/17 7:02am

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eyewishuheaven said:

TrivialPursuit said:


Prince also used the series of albums for "Pop Life" (the crowd noise), "I Wonder U" and/or "Do U Lie?" (I think), and "Lady Cab Driver" (the traffic sounds).


I heard that same traffic sound in All About Eve, so that one's even older. Anyway, interesting find!

It's also heard a few times in 'The Sting'.

Walking alone in the dark, I see nothing u see
I can be in a park, or flying in the…in the deep sea
I wish u’d hold my hand; then everything could b
There’s nothing strange, we’re not deranged
We only want everyday 2 b a Cosmic Day
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Reply #22 posted 04/08/17 8:02am

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jazzz said:

From same series, wedding march?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/...ts+wedding


I think the wedding march track in there is the same, too, yes.

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Reply #23 posted 04/08/17 9:11am

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It would also seem that the edit mix of 'Good Love', appearing on Crystal Ball '97 (but likely assembled much earlier), uses an excerpt from this sound library at the end of the track.

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The beginning of 'Play in the Sunshine' samples (and distorts) a portion of the stock street noise.

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What about parts of the background to the intro to 'The Ball', the club 'ambience' on 'Chili Sauce', and certain sound effects on 'Bob George'?

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[Edited 4/8/17 9:23am]

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Reply #24 posted 04/08/17 9:46am

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imprimis said:

It would also seem that the edit mix of 'Good Love', appearing on Crystal Ball '97 (but likely assembled much earlier), uses an excerpt from this sound library at the end of the track.

.

The beginning of 'Play in the Sunshine' samples (and distorts) a portion of the stock street noise.

.

What about parts of the background to the intro to 'The Ball', the club 'ambience' on 'Chili Sauce', and certain sound effects on 'Bob George'?

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[Edited 4/8/17 9:23am]


While I know they're not the same, the woman walking at the beginning of "Chili Sauce" reminds me of the walking sound on The Gold Experience.

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Reply #25 posted 04/08/17 9:48am

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monkeytennis said:

I can't imagine Prince listening to Sound Effects Albums. So does anyone know Whether it was Prince or maybe even Susan Rogers that found these samples?

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He used one album. One. All of these sounds discovered so far are from one and the same album.

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Reply #26 posted 04/08/17 9:53am

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jaawwnn said:

The wedding march referenced in the first post in the thread, yes. Also, HAY UFOCLUB, where did you get that story about parking from in the old thread? [Edited 4/8/17 3:44am]

Wow, we were talking about this in 2006: http://prince.org/msg/7/208126



I don't even remember! But it sounds like I got info from the original fan discussions on the newsgroup? But 2006 is way after the newsgroup.

[Edited 4/8/17 10:59am]

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Reply #27 posted 04/08/17 10:39am

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monkeytennis said:

I can't imagine Prince listening to Sound Effects Albums. So does anyone know Whether it was Prince or maybe even Susan Rogers that found these samples?


You should study up on your Prince history. It's well documented that when he was making 1999, he had access to a large sound effect library, and had fun using it. It's why you hear the baby at the end of "Delirious", the traffic sounds on "Lady Cab Driver", etc.

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Reply #28 posted 04/08/17 10:40am

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jjam said:

I imagine Eye Records will do a boot of this now and we'll see people on eBay paying $70 for a pressed CD copy of it.

I used to edit porn back around 1999 or so. Our music guy came in with a sound effect set that was branded from Sony. It had the boxing sample from Pop Life, and the baby sample from Delirious. I think the sound effect set is still available.

[Edited 4/8/17 10:42am]

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ufoclub said:

jaawwnn said:

The wedding march referenced in the first post in the thread, yes. Also, HAY UFOCLUB, where did you get that story about parking from in the old thread? [Edited 4/8/17 3:44am]

Wow, we were talking about this in 2006: http://prince.org/msg/7/208126



I don't even remember! But it sounds like I got info from the original fan discussions on the newsgroup? But 2006 is way after the newsgroup.

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Back then amp was still easily searchable on Google Groups. It's a shame that whole history is now lost...

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