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Reply #300 posted 02/12/17 9:10am

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kapo74 said:

I have been a fan for 25 years, but before last year I never heard of 'Wally'. And now it seems to be the holy grail of Prince songs. Is this all of a sudden, or did I miss something all those years? Can some one elaborate?

When Pop Life book came out (and DMSR) containing the Wally story via Susan, the holy grail myth began.

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Reply #301 posted 02/12/17 9:17am

kapo74

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kapo74 said:


I have been a fan for 25 years, but before last year I never heard of 'Wally'. And now it seems to be the holy grail of Prince songs. Is this all of a sudden, or did I miss something all those years? Can some one elaborate?


When Pop Life book came out (and DMSR) containing the Wally story via Susan, the holy grail myth began.



Thanks. I never read Poplife, or any of the Prince 'must-reads', so clearly I just missed it. I used to be on top of things in the nineties, but then the virus retired to a dorment state. Only to wake up around tours/new releases. Anyhow, I'm looking forward to track down and find Wally, eventually.
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Reply #302 posted 02/12/17 9:02pm

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Wolfie87 said:

What do the horns in the end remind you of? From another Prince song?


It reminded me of the horn on Slow Love! lol

"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
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Reply #303 posted 02/13/17 1:09am

JorisE73

Long time lurker here since the purple and black days of Prince.org, a.m.p. and the PPML and this thread finally made me register and post.

I have been reading this thread for the last few weeks and when Questlove posted his message about hearing Wally I had some cool discussions with other fans offline about it.

Some are members on here and I find it weird that none of them are participating in this thread! At least five of those members claim to have heard Wally back in 2001 when two guys Sy(?) and Malcolm C. hosted some listening parties and at the first celebration at Paisley Park in the parking lot and some said they thought they got the track from old school amper -T-. A couple of these member said they also heard it via Skype in the last years from Neversin. I have read a lot of posts of Neversin on here and knew he was busy trading on some onion site with other fans from here and the old HouseQuake forums. Sadly he shut it down last April and went AWOL lol . And even though that Broken Faucet thread list he posted here didn't even have Wally on it, I heard from some members here that Wally has been offered to Sabotage and Eye, so we will see. I truly hope it leaks because I would love to finally hear it fully. Anyway cool thread and I understand BigChick on now that Prince isn't around anymore we are in a new era concerning the release of unreleased stuff, but I also understand why people keep this stuff to themselve when there are pirates on the coast and simply keep it so they can trade for other uncirculating stuff. The only answer seems to be the estate but that will probably take years upon years when all the in-fighting is done, so in all honesty I am glad it was sold to bootleggers so we all finally can hear it! If it wasn’t for Sabotage and the like I would never heard any of the unreleased stuff. The sample sounds like it is also mono like the last couple of leaks and probably was sold to bootleggers by the same people. Super exited about the PR Deluxe with the rumoured 2 full concerts.

Nice to meet everyone!

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Reply #304 posted 02/13/17 1:19am

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JorisE73 said:

Long time lurker here since the purple and black days of Prince.org, a.m.p. and the PPML and this thread finally made me register and post.


I have been reading this thread for the last few weeks and when Questlove posted his message about hearing Wally I had some cool discussions with other fans offline about it.


Some are members on here and I find it weird that none of them are participating in this thread! At least five of those members claim to have heard Wally back in 2001 when two guys Sy(?) and Malcolm C. hosted some listening parties and at the first celebration at Paisley Park in the parking lot and some said they thought they got the track from old school amper -T-. A couple of these member said they also heard it via Skype in the last years from Neversin. I have read a lot of posts of Neversin on here and knew he was busy trading on some onion site with other fans from here and the old HouseQuake forums. Sadly he shut it down last April and went AWOL lol . And even though that Broken Faucet thread list he posted here didn't even have Wally on it, I heard from some members here that Wally has been offered to Sabotage and Eye, so we will see. I truly hope it leaks because I would love to finally hear it fully. Anyway cool thread and I understand BigChick on now that Prince isn't around anymore we are in a new era concerning the release of unreleased stuff, but I also understand why people keep this stuff to themselve when there are pirates on the coast and simply keep it so they can trade for other uncirculating stuff. The only answer seems to be the estate but that will probably take years upon years when all the in-fighting is done, so in all honesty I am glad it was sold to bootleggers so we all finally can hear it! If it wasn’t for Sabotage and the like I would never heard any of the unreleased stuff. The sample sounds like it is also mono like the last couple of leaks and probably was sold to bootleggers by the same people. Super exited about the PR Deluxe with the rumoured 2 full concerts.


Nice to meet everyone!





u are right.....i can confirm others things but i keep 4 myself. ...promise i made to some guys is very very important
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Reply #305 posted 02/13/17 1:27am

Neversin

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JorisE73 said:

Long time lurker here since the purple and black days of Prince.org, a.m.p. and the PPML and this thread finally made me register and post.

I have been reading this thread for the last few weeks and when Questlove posted his message about hearing Wally I had some cool discussions with other fans offline about it.

Some are members on here and I find it weird that none of them are participating in this thread!



There might be a fucking reason for that, don't you think?
It seems ever since Prince died this forum has been taken over by fucking idiot newbie fans...

Neversin.

[Edited 2/13/17 1:27am]

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Reply #306 posted 02/13/17 1:31am

JorisE73

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JorisE73 said:

Long time lurker here since the purple and black days of Prince.org, a.m.p. and the PPML and this thread finally made me register and post.

I have been reading this thread for the last few weeks and when Questlove posted his message about hearing Wally I had some cool discussions with other fans offline about it.

Some are members on here and I find it weird that none of them are participating in this thread! At least five of those members claim to have heard Wally back in 2001 when two guys Sy(?) and Malcolm C. hosted some listening parties and at the first celebration at Paisley Park in the parking lot and some said they thought they got the track from old school amper -T-. A couple of these member said they also heard it via Skype in the last years from Neversin. I have read a lot of posts of Neversin on here and knew he was busy trading on some onion site with other fans from here and the old HouseQuake forums. Sadly he shut it down last April and went AWOL lol . And even though that Broken Faucet thread list he posted here didn't even have Wally on it, I heard from some members here that Wally has been offered to Sabotage and Eye, so we will see. I truly hope it leaks because I would love to finally hear it fully. Anyway cool thread and I understand BigChick on now that Prince isn't around anymore we are in a new era concerning the release of unreleased stuff, but I also understand why people keep this stuff to themselve when there are pirates on the coast and simply keep it so they can trade for other uncirculating stuff. The only answer seems to be the estate but that will probably take years upon years when all the in-fighting is done, so in all honesty I am glad it was sold to bootleggers so we all finally can hear it! If it wasn’t for Sabotage and the like I would never heard any of the unreleased stuff. The sample sounds like it is also mono like the last couple of leaks and probably was sold to bootleggers by the same people. Super exited about the PR Deluxe with the rumoured 2 full concerts.

Nice to meet everyone!

u are right.....i can confirm others things but i keep 4 myself. ...promise i made to some guys is very very important

I can fully respect that.

But I would love to hear more about it wink

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Reply #307 posted 02/13/17 1:32am

JorisE73

Neversin said:

JorisE73 said:

Long time lurker here since the purple and black days of Prince.org, a.m.p. and the PPML and this thread finally made me register and post.

I have been reading this thread for the last few weeks and when Questlove posted his message about hearing Wally I had some cool discussions with other fans offline about it.

Some are members on here and I find it weird that none of them are participating in this thread!



There might be a fucking reason for that, don't you think?
It seems ever since Prince died this forum has been taken over by fucking idiot newbie fans...

Neversin.

[Edited 2/13/17 1:27am]

If this is a attack on my post then let me tell you this: het nergens voor nodig om je als een lul te gedragen. We are all fans here.

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Reply #308 posted 02/13/17 1:37am

Neversin

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JorisE73 said:

If this is a attack on my post then let me tell you this: het nergens voor nodig om je als een lul te gedragen. We are all fans here.


Says the newbie posting on an English language forum...
As a "Long time lurker" since "the purple and black days of Prince.org, a.m.p. and the PPML" you should fucking know better...
Plus the fact that it's highly likely the people you spoke to told you not to post anything on here about your "discussions"...

Neversin.

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Reply #309 posted 02/13/17 1:38am

JorisE73

Neversin said:

JorisE73 said:

If this is a attack on my post then let me tell you this: het nergens voor nodig om je als een lul te gedragen. We are all fans here.


Says the newbie posting on an English language forum...
As a "Long time lurker" since "the purple and black days of Prince.org, a.m.p. and the PPML" you should fucking know better...
Plus the fact that it's highly likely the people you spoke to told you not to post anything on here about your "discussions"...

Neversin.

Whatever.

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Reply #310 posted 02/13/17 1:40am

Neversin

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JorisE73 said:

Whatever.


Yeah... Welcome to a lot of shitlists...

Neversin.


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Reply #311 posted 02/13/17 1:40am

paulludvig

love2thenines2003 said:

mushmackalenta said:
My hopes of this leaking are fading. I agree with the theory that eye records probably don't have the full song.
The World of collector circles is à special world...u Will b surprised by the songs that no one has ever heard even not mentioned in The vault site. ..what is coming next. ...is in the hands of those Who own these jewels....they are free to do what they want.....everything is a question of time!

Shouldn't they just leak the tracks now before they get an official release?

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #312 posted 02/13/17 1:47am

JorisE73

paulludvig said:

love2thenines2003 said:

mushmackalenta said: The World of collector circles is à special world...u Will b surprised by the songs that no one has ever heard even not mentioned in The vault site. ..what is coming next. ...is in the hands of those Who own these jewels....they are free to do what they want.....everything is a question of time!

Shouldn't they just leak the tracks now before they get an official release?

Maybe they are waiting to see what is on the two discs of unreleased material on the PR Deluxe release and go from there and then hopefully release stuff from the same era that isn't on there? the PR Deluxe edition could be an example of what is to follow for the other albums once they will be remasterd.

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Reply #313 posted 02/13/17 1:48am

udo

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paulludvig said:

love2thenines2003 said:

mushmackalenta said: The World of collector circles is à special world...u Will b surprised by the songs that no one has ever heard even not mentioned in The vault site. ..what is coming next. ...is in the hands of those Who own these jewels....they are free to do what they want.....everything is a question of time!

Shouldn't they just leak the tracks now before they get an official release?

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That is the only way to extract something from them.

But do we assume the Estate has a strategy w.r.t. relasing all of it?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #314 posted 02/13/17 2:23am

Friskykitty

The rerecorded version 2 of Wally is doing the rounds now .... as for the original I've never heard it
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Reply #315 posted 02/13/17 7:18am

injuredpinky

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paulludvig said:

love2thenines2003 said:

mushmackalenta said: The World of collector circles is à special world...u Will b surprised by the songs that no one has ever heard even not mentioned in The vault site. ..what is coming next. ...is in the hands of those Who own these jewels....they are free to do what they want.....everything is a question of time!

Shouldn't they just leak the tracks now before they get an official release?

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Bootleg value is probably still high now, but it's days are definitely numbered. Now that the Universal deal is in place, in addition to whatever WB can do, the Vault sounds to be pretty exposable. Everyone will soon be getting all those songs and more...and in many cases with far better quality.

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I imagine if any of those collectors hope to make any money off their stash, it will need to happen sooner rather than later. I don't think Universal has to wait for the Estate members to be sharing a Coca Cola in perfrect harmony for the releases to begin. It's certainly not that far off in any case.

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EDIT: Removed duplicated word VAULT.

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Reply #316 posted 02/13/17 8:30am

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Friskykitty said:

The rerecorded version 2 of Wally is doing the rounds now .... as for the original I've never heard it

eek pc U lie! lol

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Reply #317 posted 02/13/17 9:52am

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fakkin hell lol disbelief

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #318 posted 02/14/17 10:45am

Romeoblu

Friskykitty said:

The rerecorded version 2 of Wally is doing the rounds now .... as for the original I've never heard it



I've not come across it yet. Have you seen it somewhere?
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Reply #319 posted 02/14/17 1:07pm

IstenSzek

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Romeoblu said:

Friskykitty said:
The rerecorded version 2 of Wally is doing the rounds now .... as for the original I've never heard it
I've not come across it yet. Have you seen it somewhere?


no they haven't. they've heard the snippet we've all heard.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #320 posted 02/14/17 5:23pm

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It is not doing the rounds, and the user who just posted that it was, is a alternate account of a member who was permanently banned.

So..... Don't feed the troll

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Reply #321 posted 02/14/17 6:02pm

CandaceS

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lol popcorn

"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
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Reply #322 posted 02/14/17 9:45pm

masaba

Neversin said:

JorisE73 said:

If this is a attack on my post then let me tell you this: het nergens voor nodig om je als een lul te gedragen. We are all fans here.


Says the newbie posting on an English language forum...
As a "Long time lurker" since "the purple and black days of Prince.org, a.m.p. and the PPML" you should fucking know better...
Plus the fact that it's highly likely the people you spoke to told you not to post anything on here about your "discussions"...

Neversin.

Man, in all honesty, fuck all that.

I watched the Prince omnibus video for the first time the other day (seen it around a while, just never watched it) and seeing all that footage made me realise something. I don't just like Prince, I don't just revere the dude, it's not just fascination, it's obsession. That video made me so happy, and the prospect of there being hours of footage like that excites me in a weird way. I would pay a lot of money for that kind of stuff, and why, because I fucking love it.

That being said, I'm probably far from the biggest fan. There's thousands and thousands of people who get even more out of stuff like that than I do. Basically, that shit is important to us fans. And going even a step further than that, with Prince gone, it belongs to us man. That dude made this stuff for us, and it needs to be in the hands of the thousands and thousands of people who will be moved and changed for the better by it.

Fuck all these secret circles and backdoor meetings and blood oaths and shit. That shit is cool when the artist is alive, but unless I had a gun to my head, if I had a hold of this kind of stuff on April 21st or 22nd or whenever he died, I'd let it go.

Building and basking in and celebrating the legacy of Prince is more important than anything else at this point.

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Reply #323 posted 02/15/17 6:34am

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masaba said:

I watched the Prince omnibus video for the first time the other day (seen it around a while, just never watched it) and seeing all that footage made me realise something. I don't just like Prince, I don't just revere the dude, it's not just fascination, it's obsession.

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They will not release it all.

They will not release it soon.

They will not release it often.

They will not release it in complete form.

Or at a nice price.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #324 posted 02/15/17 6:44am

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Militant said:

It is not doing the rounds, and the user who just posted that it was, is a alternate account of a member who was permanently banned.



So..... Don't feed the troll


I think there is really only 5 people on this whole website talking to themselves.

:popcorn:
What?
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Reply #325 posted 02/15/17 8:01am

EddieC

iZsaZsa said:

Militant said:

It is not doing the rounds, and the user who just posted that it was, is a alternate account of a member who was permanently banned.

So..... Don't feed the troll

I think there is really only 5 people on this whole website talking to themselves. popcorn

And some of them do it while eating popcorn. popcorn Next to a toaster. toaster

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Reply #326 posted 02/15/17 10:42am

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EddieC said:

iZsaZsa said:

Militant said: I think there is really only 5 people on this whole website talking to themselves. popcorn

And some of them do it while eating popcorn. popcorn Next to a toaster. toaster


i hope some of them are doing it from the bath pray

lol

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Reply #327 posted 02/15/17 12:37pm

jaawwnn

Just to disagree with some of this thread because why not,

1. In a large room with no light is a great track, top tier.
2. Susan Rogers was right about Adonis & Bathsheba except where she thought the absolute over the topness of it all was in any way a bad thing; it's a brilliant track because of that.
3. Purple Rain is great cinema. Sure it has piles of bad acting, but it's still great cinema.

carry on.

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Reply #328 posted 02/15/17 12:47pm

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jaawwnn said:

Just to disagree with some of this thread because why not,

1. In a large room with no light is a great track, top tier.
2. Susan Rogers was right about Adonis & Bathsheba except where she thought the absolute over the topness of it all was in any way a bad thing; it's a brilliant track because of that.
3. Purple Rain is great cinema. Sure it has piles of bad acting, but it's still great cinema.

carry on.

[Edited 2/15/17 12:37pm]

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This thread is about Wally. How do your three points disagree with Wally? You mean carry on with how this thread is supposed to be about Wally? Yeah it would be nice to carry on about Wally.

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Reply #329 posted 02/15/17 1:05pm

fen

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jaawwnn said:

Just to disagree with some of this thread because why not,

1. In a large room with no light is a great track, top tier.
2. Susan Rogers was right about Adonis & Bathsheba except where she thought the absolute over the topness of it all was in any way a bad thing; it's a brilliant track because of that.
3. Purple Rain is great cinema. Sure it has piles of bad acting, but it's still great cinema.

carry on.

[Edited 2/15/17 12:37pm]

I agree with your first 2 points wholeheartedly. I’ve always loved Prince’s lush, OTT and slightly tongue-in-cheek ballads, tracks that are just shy of sounding saccharine but speak of his sly sense of humour (International Lover, Adore etc). No one else could pull it off.

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