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Reply #1080 posted 02/19/17 3:35pm

206Michelle

1Sasha said:

I don't if kids today would want to watch videos of a deceased pop star. Listen to the music? Maybe. Who is buying music from The Beatles and Michael Jackson? I think that would be Prince's audience as well, in terms of age. IMO the songs have to get out into commercials, films, television in order to be heard by the younger crowd.

yeahthat to the last sentence

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Reply #1081 posted 02/19/17 4:21pm

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206Michelle said:



1Sasha said:


I don't if kids today would want to watch videos of a deceased pop star. Listen to the music? Maybe. Who is buying music from The Beatles and Michael Jackson? I think that would be Prince's audience as well, in terms of age. IMO the songs have to get out into commercials, films, television in order to be heard by the younger crowd.



yeahthat to the last sentence


-Young people do not buy music in droves. Universal will make money licensing the music to T.V and movies which Prince did actually do from time to time.
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Reply #1082 posted 02/19/17 4:39pm

206Michelle

I'm trying to keep everything straight here. So I have seen the DNA results for 6 claimants, all of whom have been excluded as heirs. These individuals are:

Jan 17, 2017: Max Stacey McCormack - excluded

October 26, 2017: Corey Simmons - excluded; Brianna Nelson - excluded; V. N. - excluded

August 8, 2016: Anthony M. Steman - excluded

June 22, 2016: Carlin Q. Williams - excluded

Unknown date: Elaine Whigham Williams - ?

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Where are the documents showing that there are 2 other persons who have undergone genetic testing? Please provide names dates for these documents regarding the other 2 persons.

[Edited 2/19/17 17:29pm]

[Edited 2/19/17 17:31pm]

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Reply #1083 posted 02/19/17 4:47pm

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206Michelle said:

I'm trying to keep everything straight here. So I have seen the DNA results for 7 claimants, all of whom have been excluded as heirs. These individuals are:






Jan 17, 2017





Max Stacey McCormack - excluded



October 26, 2017


Corey Simmons - excluded


Brianna Nelson - excluded


V. N. - excluded






August 8, 2016


Anthony M. Steman - excluded



June 22, 2016


Carlin Q. Williams - excluded



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Where are the documents showing that there are 2 other persons who have undergone genetic testing? Please provide names dates for these documents regarding the other 2 persons.












The two we are discussing were never named and at this point why would they be sealing all the info if the names of the seven are already known? Remember financial transactions in this case are sealed from public view.
[Edited 2/19/17 17:47pm]
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Reply #1084 posted 02/19/17 4:53pm

206Michelle

laurarichardson said:

206Michelle said:

yeahthat to the last sentence

-Young people do not buy music in droves. Universal will make money licensing the music to T.V and movies which Prince did actually do from time to time.

I never said that young people buy music in droves. I know that they don't. But having P's music in commercials, movies, and on TV will amount in greater exposure to the younger generation. It is hard to know exactly how much the greater exposure will generate monetarily, but this exposure will inevitably generate some revenue in music sales. And as you said, Laura, using Prince's music on TV, in movies, or in commercials, the estate would benefit from licensing money.

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Reply #1085 posted 02/19/17 4:56pm

206Michelle

laurarichardson said:

206Michelle said:

I'm trying to keep everything straight here. So I have seen the DNA results for 7 claimants, all of whom have been excluded as heirs. These individuals are:

Jan 17, 2017

Max Stacey McCormack - excluded

October 26, 2017

Corey Simmons - excluded

Brianna Nelson - excluded

V. N. - excluded

August 8, 2016

Anthony M. Steman - excluded

June 22, 2016

Carlin Q. Williams - excluded

--

Where are the documents showing that there are 2 other persons who have undergone genetic testing? Please provide names dates for these documents regarding the other 2 persons.

The two we are discussing were never named and at this point why would they be sealing all the info if the names of the seven are already known?

So I get that there are 2 that have not been named. But then there would be documents indicating that these 2 individuals underwent testing. Where are these documents? What are the names and dates of these documents from http://www.mncourts.gov/I...elson.aspx that refer to the 2 unnamed claimants?

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Reply #1086 posted 02/19/17 5:55pm

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206Michelle said:



laurarichardson said:


206Michelle said:

I'm trying to keep everything straight here. So I have seen the DNA results for 7 claimants, all of whom have been excluded as heirs. These individuals are:






Jan 17, 2017





Max Stacey McCormack - excluded



October 26, 2017


Corey Simmons - excluded


Brianna Nelson - excluded


V. N. - excluded






August 8, 2016


Anthony M. Steman - excluded



June 22, 2016


Carlin Q. Williams - excluded



--


Where are the documents showing that there are 2 other persons who have undergone genetic testing? Please provide names dates for these documents regarding the other 2 persons.













The two we are discussing were never named and at this point why would they be sealing all the info if the names of the seven are already known?

So I get that there are 2 that have not been named. But then there would be documents indicating that these 2 individuals underwent testing. Where are these documents? What are the names and dates of these documents from http://www.mncourts.gov/I...elson.aspx that refer to the 2 unnamed claimants?


--Two of the names were given to the courts by Tyka. If you go back in this thread you would see when the list was nine.
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Reply #1087 posted 02/19/17 6:12pm

206Michelle

laurarichardson said:

206Michelle said:

So I get that there are 2 that have not been named. But then there would be documents indicating that these 2 individuals underwent testing. Where are these documents? What are the names and dates of these documents from http://www.mncourts.gov/I...elson.aspx that refer to the 2 unnamed claimants?

--Two of the names were given to the courts by Tyka. If you go back in this thread you would see when the list was nine.

I did see a mention of the two names when you made the following comment in reply #1018:

laurarichardson said:

-- I thought there was a rumor that two names were given to the judge by Tkya but I thought there was uncertainty about this as we only saw 5 names. So far they have only mentioned the sibs as potential heirs.

So Laura can you provide me with the name and/or date of the document on the http://www.mncourts.gov/InReTheEstateofPrinceRogersNelson.aspx page. I am guessing that if Tyka gave the court 2 names, these names are under seal.

--

And then another question: Why would Tyka wait so long to provide the court with these 2 names?

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Reply #1088 posted 02/19/17 6:56pm

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206Michelle said:



laurarichardson said:


206Michelle said:


So I get that there are 2 that have not been named. But then there would be documents indicating that these 2 individuals underwent testing. Where are these documents? What are the names and dates of these documents from http://www.mncourts.gov/I...elson.aspx that refer to the 2 unnamed claimants?



--Two of the names were given to the courts by Tyka. If you go back in this thread you would see when the list was nine.

I did see a mention of the two names when you made the following comment in reply #1018:



laurarichardson said:




-- I thought there was a rumor that two names were given to the judge by Tkya but I thought there was uncertainty about this as we only saw 5 names. So far they have only mentioned the sibs as potential heirs.




So Laura can you provide me with the name and/or date of the document on the http://www.mncourts.gov/InReTheEstateofPrinceRogersNelson.aspx page. I am guessing that if Tyka gave the court 2 names, these names are under seal.


--


And then another question: Why would Tyka wait so long to provide the court with these 2 names?



--Someone replied to me to let me know about the two names and that Tyka had given the court those names back at the begining of the probate. Let me fool around with the search key and see what I can find. I can tell you this the two names have never been known to the public and at some point all of the names would have been public now they are all going to be sealed.
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Reply #1089 posted 02/19/17 7:12pm

rap

Militant said:

So....... as some of you who follow the org (or Londell) on Twitter already know - I had a meeting with Londell in Beverly Hills on Friday night, on behalf of the org and the fan community as a whole.

There were several questions that I put to him and I'm pleased to say he was very honest and upfront with me about how things are playing out from his perspective.

I made it very clear that the most important thing we need as a fan community is consistent dialog and interaction. He understands that and has a great deal of respect for the org, and our independence. I made it clear that if there's no dialog, then that's where untruths, speculation and misinformation comes from, and so we are working on ways to make that happen in better ways.

To be clear, what's happening right now is that Londell is representing 4 of the 6 heirs. My understanding from speaking with Londell (and others) is that the heirs largely feel that they want be in control of a lot of decisions as and when appropriate, but also understand (to some degree) that they lack the experience. Which of course is where Londell, Charles, and others come in. There are also several conversations being had about other advisors - namely, people who were close to Prince for a long time like certain bandmembers, engineers, etc. That's an ongoing process.

I made it clear to Londell that there's concern about short-term thinking amongst the heirs and the administrators, and that it's very important that all decisions are made with the thinking of what we want Prince's legacy to look like in 50 years, and 100 years - not just 5 or 10. He agreed, but one thing that is a major issue right now is making sure this large tax bill get paid. Prince's assets would be getting seized if that bill didn't get paid, so he has made sure that happens. There are people who will criticize and feel this or that should have been done differently - that's always gonna happen. But arguing doesn't get that bill paid - making the deals does.

But the main thing, really, is the transparency and ensuring releases are done properly. I explained that vague press releases ain't gonna cut it. I explained that if this Purple Rain Deluxe thing isn't done properly, all trust from the fanbase is lost. It has to be right. We have to be on the same page, and whilst you can't please everybody - as long as we're all trying to do right by Prince, then there's no reason we can't make this work and no reason we can't get future generations to understand what we know - that Prince's catalog is the greatest catalog in pop music.








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Reply #1090 posted 02/19/17 7:26pm

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206Michelle said:

laurarichardson said:

206Michelle said: The two we are discussing were never named and at this point why would they be sealing all the info if the names of the seven are already known?

So I get that there are 2 that have not been named. But then there would be documents indicating that these 2 individuals underwent testing. Where are these documents? What are the names and dates of these documents from http://www.mncourts.gov/I...elson.aspx that refer to the 2 unnamed claimants?

Brianna Nelson and VN never took a DNA test.

[Edited 2/19/17 19:28pm]

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Reply #1091 posted 02/19/17 7:51pm

rogifan

Militant said:

So..... as some of you who follow the org (or Londell) on Twitter already know - I had a meeting with Londell in Beverly Hills on Friday night, on behalf of the org and the fan community as a whole.

There were several questions that I put to him and I'm pleased to say he was very honest and upfront with me about how things are playing out from his perspective.

I made it very clear that the most important thing we need as a fan community is consistent dialog and interaction. He understands that and has a great deal of respect for the org, and our independence. I made it clear that if there's no dialog, then that's where untruths, speculation and misinformation comes from, and so we are working on ways to make that happen in better ways.



To be clear, what's happening right now is that Londell is representing 4 of the 6 heirs. My understanding from speaking with Londell (and others) is that the heirs largely feel that they want be in control of a lot of decisions as and when appropriate, but also understand (to some degree) that they lack the experience. Which of course is where Londell, Charles, and others come in. There are also several conversations being had about other advisors - namely, people who were close to Prince for a long time like certain bandmembers, engineers, etc. That's an ongoing process.

I made it clear to Londell that there's concern about short-term thinking amongst the heirs and the administrators, and that it's very important that all decisions are made with the thinking of what we want Prince's legacy to look like in 50 years, and 100 years - not just 5 or 10. He agreed, but one thing that is a major issue right now is making sure this large tax bill get paid. Prince's assets would be getting seized if that bill didn't get paid, so he has made sure that happens. There are people who will criticize and feel this or that should have been done differently - that's always gonna happen. But arguing doesn't get that bill paid - making the deals does.



But the main thing, really, is the transparency and ensuring releases are done properly. I explained that vague press releases ain't gonna cut it. I explained that if this Purple Rain Deluxe thing isn't done properly, all trust from the fanbase is lost. It has to be right. We have to be on the same page, and whilst you can't please everybody - as long as we're all trying to do right by Prince, then there's no reason we can't make this work and no reason we can't get future generations to understand what we know - that Prince's catalog is the greatest catalog in pop music.









Thanks so much for sharing.
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Reply #1092 posted 02/19/17 7:53pm

rogifan

laurarichardson said:

How about stop tweeting altogether and put out press releases. I am glad that a communication was made to him from a segment of the fanbase.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Every deal that's been done has had an official press release tied to it.
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Reply #1093 posted 02/19/17 8:29pm

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rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

How about stop tweeting altogether and put out press releases. I am glad that a communication was made to him from a segment of the fanbase.

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Every deal that's been done has had an official press release tied to it.

--I am talking about Londell if he has something to say it should all been in the form of a press release. One if the things Tyka and Omarr asked is that he stop tweeting about estate business.
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Reply #1094 posted 02/19/17 10:01pm

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laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:
I'm not sure what you're talking about. Every deal that's been done has had an official press release tied to it.
--I am talking about Londell if he has something to say it should all been in the form of a press release. One if the things Tyka and Omarr asked is that he stop tweeting about estate business.

Laura speaks the truth.

blunt

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Reply #1095 posted 02/20/17 2:25am

rogifan

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:


I'm not sure what you're talking about. Every deal that's been done has had an official press release tied to it.

--I am talking about Londell if he has something to say it should all been in the form of a press release. One if the things Tyka and Omarr asked is that he stop tweeting about estate business.

I agree about the tweets. But I don't think he needs to be issuing press releases outside of official deals. Also Tyka and Omarr are free to tell their side of the story to the media as well.
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Reply #1096 posted 02/20/17 9:59am

1Sasha

I guess we can assume that the four non-excluded heirs he represents would like to cash out as soon as possible. I don't blame them.

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Reply #1097 posted 02/20/17 11:21am

morningsong

1Sasha said:

I guess we can assume that the four non-excluded heirs he represents would like to cash out as soon as possible. I don't blame them.



I didn't read that in Militant's statement, seems they all want to maintain the role as decision makers it's just they disagree on which way to go about it or who should be involved, perhaps.

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Reply #1098 posted 02/20/17 12:28pm

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1Sasha said:

I guess we can assume that the four non-excluded heirs he represents would like to cash out as soon as possible. I don't blame them.


--I believe this to be the case just based on their age. I hope if they are really not interested they do cash out or just take a less active role.
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Reply #1099 posted 02/20/17 12:36pm

206Michelle

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

I guess we can assume that the four non-excluded heirs he represents would like to cash out as soon as possible. I don't blame them.

--I believe this to be the case just based on their age. I hope if they are really not interested they do cash out or just take a less active role.

Laura, I agree with you. It appears that Tyka and Omarr are the 2 siblings who are most invested in preserving his legacy long-term. It makes sense because they are the 2 youngest of Prince's siblings.

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Reply #1100 posted 02/20/17 1:14pm

morningsong

Ageist! lol

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Reply #1101 posted 02/20/17 2:00pm

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morningsong said:

Ageist! lol


--No, the older sibs are in their late 60s they may not be around too much longer and they do not appear to have been that close to him. Two sisters said they had never been in Paisley Park.
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Reply #1102 posted 02/20/17 2:39pm

morningsong

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

Ageist! lol

--No, the older sibs are in their late 60s they may not be around too much longer and they do not appear to have been that close to him. Two sisters said they had never been in Paisley Park.



Yeah but their age doesn't automatically mean they just want to take the money and run. So far it hasn't happened quite like that I don't get why people are still saying that without anything but their age to base it on. Granted it's obvious that Tyka and Omar have been closer and know more. Aren't some of this siblings at these late night events and stuff?

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Reply #1103 posted 02/20/17 3:01pm

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morningsong said:



laurarichardson said:


morningsong said:

Ageist! lol



--No, the older sibs are in their late 60s they may not be around too much longer and they do not appear to have been that close to him. Two sisters said they had never been in Paisley Park.



Yeah but their age doesn't automatically mean they just want to take the money and run. So far it hasn't happened quite like that I don't get why people are still saying that without anything but their age to base it on. Granted it's obvious that Tyka and Omar have been closer and know more. Aren't some of this siblings at these late night events and stuff?


--What are you talking about? The older ones do not agree with the younger ones this is already known. Have you been reading the courts docs? Sharon is trying to get her Jazz carreer off the ground. (Lol) Does that sound like concern for the estate. A 70 year trying to get their Jazz career off the ground. I did not hear anything about the older ones being at the Grammies.
[Edited 2/20/17 15:03pm]
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Reply #1104 posted 02/20/17 5:51pm

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laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:



Yeah but their age doesn't automatically mean they just want to take the money and run. So far it hasn't happened quite like that I don't get why people are still saying that without anything but their age to base it on. Granted it's obvious that Tyka and Omar have been closer and know more. Aren't some of this siblings at these late night events and stuff?

--What are you talking about? The older ones do not agree with the younger ones this is already known. Have you been reading the courts docs? Sharon is trying to get her Jazz carreer off the ground. (Lol) Does that sound like concern for the estate. A 70 year trying to get their Jazz career off the ground. I did not hear anything about the older ones being at the Grammies. [Edited 2/20/17 15:03pm]

They probably can't quite believe their luck. It bothers me that they have some say or control in an empire, they had absolutely no hand in creating!

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Reply #1105 posted 02/20/17 5:53pm

rap


laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:




Yeah but their age doesn't automatically mean they just want to take the money and run. So far it hasn't happened quite like that I don't get why people are still saying that without anything but their age to base it on. Granted it's obvious that Tyka and Omar have been closer and know more. Aren't some of this siblings at these late night events and stuff?

--What are you talking about? The older ones do not agree with the younger ones this is already known. Have you been reading the courts docs? Sharon is trying to get her Jazz carreer off the ground. (Lol) Does that sound like concern for the estate. A 70 year trying to get their Jazz career off the ground. I did not hear anything about the older ones being at the Grammies. [Edited 2/20/17 15:03pm]


They probably can't quite believe their luck. It bothers me that they have some say or control in an empire, they had absolutely no hand in creating!

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Reply #1106 posted 02/20/17 5:55pm

morningsong

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:



laurarichardson said:


morningsong said:

Ageist! lol



--No, the older sibs are in their late 60s they may not be around too much longer and they do not appear to have been that close to him. Two sisters said they had never been in Paisley Park.



Yeah but their age doesn't automatically mean they just want to take the money and run. So far it hasn't happened quite like that I don't get why people are still saying that without anything but their age to base it on. Granted it's obvious that Tyka and Omar have been closer and know more. Aren't some of this siblings at these late night events and stuff?


--What are you talking about? The older ones do not agree with the younger ones this is already known. Have you been reading the courts docs? Sharon is trying to get her Jazz carreer off the ground. (Lol) Does that sound like concern for the estate. A 70 year trying to get their Jazz career off the ground. I did not hear anything about the older ones being at the Grammies.
[Edited 2/20/17 15:03pm]


How does not agreeing automatically translate to taking the money and running? Maybe they do but not because of age especially if one of the oldest ones wants to have a new career. I've noted the younger ones react to Prince more as a father figure a sentiment I'm sure the older ones don't share . They may want to be more in charge over their little brother affairs. It could be a dynamics thing over just that they are seniors.
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Reply #1107 posted 02/20/17 5:58pm

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laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

Ageist! lol


--No, the older sibs are in their late 60s they may not be around too much longer and they do not appear to have been that close to him. Two sisters said they had never been in Paisley Park.

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Sharon is 16 years older than Prince, making her about 74, give or take a few months.

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Reply #1108 posted 02/20/17 6:46pm

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laytonian said:

laurarichardson said:


--No, the older sibs are in their late 60s they may not be around too much longer and they do not appear to have been that close to him. Two sisters said they had never been in Paisley Park.

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Sharon is 16 years older than Prince, making her about 74, give or take a few months.

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That proves may point and shame on Londell for making her think she is going to have a career as a jazz singer 74.
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Reply #1109 posted 02/20/17 7:08pm

Lovejunky

Phaedra was officially removed from the LLC on April 27..less than one week after Prince Passed...

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Order-on-Stipulation-Addressing-Phaedra-Ellis-Lamkins-Petition.pdf

WHAT THE HELL....not even 7 days are gone and someone is thinking BUSINESS ?

I dont GET WHY she was removed, who removed her OR WHY did she step down..

Either way makes no sense since SHE was the ONE who WON his fight...

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh

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