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Moonbeam

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Prince song poll 2016-2017: Extended deadline

Overview

Needless to say, 2016 has been a tough year for Prince fans. We’ve all had to cope with the loss in our own ways. Some of us have avoided Prince’s music because it serves as too painful of a reminder of what we have lost, while some of us have enveloped ourselves in his music as it is the only thing that brings comfort.
As 2016 draws to a close, I think now is a good time to celebrate his legacy, and one way to do that is to count down what collectively serve as our favorite Prince songs.
Consequently, I have collated a list of all known Prince songs as listed at princevault.com.

How to participate

To get us warmed up, I will be making a post with a link to a random song each day for us to rate, along with its number in the spreadsheet. These ratings are informal, but a fun way to get us all ready for the main poll. I invite you to make posts with ratings for other Prince songs as you like, but please check to see if the song you are considering has not been posted first! Here’s how to formally participate:
  1. Access the master spreadsheet from https://docs.google.com/s...sp=sharing
  2. Make a copy of the spreadsheet where you can enter ratings. The link above is kept as View Only to preserve it from any unintentional edits. There are two ways to make a copy (see video in the “Helpful Links” section for a demonstration):
    1. You can make a copy as a Microsoft Excel file by following the menu items File -> Download As -> Microsoft Excel.
    2. Alternatively, you can copy the master spreadsheet as a Google Sheet by following the menu items File -> Make a Copy.
  3. In your copy of the spreadsheet, rate as many of the listed songs as you like on a scale from 0 to 10, with 10 representing the most favourable rating and 0 the most unfavorable. You can get as precise as you’d like with ratings, so if you want to rate a song 9.99, feel free. Whether you vote for 5 songs or 1000 is up to you - any and all participation from Prince fans is welcome!
  4. Once complete, send your list as an attachment to Princepoll2016@gmail.com. I will notify you after I have successfully incorporated your ballot into the results spreadsheet.
  5. Periodically check for updates to the master spreadsheet, when new songs are added. See the “Spreadsheet Updates” section below for details of any updates that are made.

Some important notes

  • For songs recorded by others that have circulating versions with Prince’s vocals (e.g. “Neon Telephone”), please consider the version with Prince’s vocals.
  • For songs that have multiple versions (e.g. “U’re Gonna C Me” or “The Dance”), please assign a rating to the version you like best.
  • If you are uncertain about a song title (e.g. which version of “A Place in Heaven” you’d like to rate), check out available information at princevault. I have copied the list verbatim from these two links: http://princevault.com/in..._song_list and http://princevault.com/in...and_covers
  • The deadline for list submission is February 1, 2017. After all lists are collated, I will count down the list using the following point system:
  • Points = (Average rating – 5)*ln(number of ratings + 1)
  • Why this formula? It rewards songs with high numbers of votes, so we don’t have a situation where an obscure song with 5 ratings of a perfect 10 (say, “2045 Radical Man”) ranks higher than a song with 100 ratings with an average of 9.9.
  • Feel free to share this link with any and all Prince fans you feel would be interested in participating.
  • Thank you to princevault for being such a wonderful resource of information on all things Prince, and that all of you for making the Prince fan community such a vibrant place.

Helpful Links

Video demonstrating process of downloading the spreadsheet as either a Microsoft Excel file or a Google Sheet: https://www.facebook.com/...572980113/
Post with link to spreadsheet tallying votes from the warm-up polls. You can use the linked spreadsheet as a start for your ratings if you like: https://www.facebook.com/...018440770/

Spreadsheet Updates

If you notice that a song is missing, please make a post to the page, and I will add the song to the spreadsheet.
  • December 11, 2016: Added “Anotherlove” and “New Power Gerenation (Pt. II)”
  • December 29, 2016: Added “The Sweeter She Is” and “Climax”

[Edited 1/9/17 18:45pm]

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Reply #1 posted 12/10/16 12:29am

Lovejunky

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Moonbeam said:

Needless to say, 2016 has been a tough year for Prince fans. We’ve all had to cope with the loss in our own ways. Some of us have avoided Prince’s music because it serves as too painful of a reminder of what we have lost, while some of us have enveloped ourselves in his music as it is the only thing that brings comfort.
As 2016 draws to a close, I think now is a good time to celebrate his legacy, and one way to do that is to count down what collectively serve as our favorite Prince songs.
Consequently, I have collated a list of all known Prince songs as listed at princevault.com.

Here’s how to participate:
2. Rate as many of the listed songs as you like on a scale from 0 to 10, with 10 representing the most favourable rating and 0 the most unfavorable. You can get as precise as you’d like with ratings, so if you want to rate a song 9.99, feel free.
3. Once complete, send your list as an attachment to Princepoll2016@gmail.com. If you have Microsoft Excel, an easy way to do this is to follow the menu items File -> Download As -> Microsoft Excel. Otherwise, you can send a link to an edited Google Sheet with your ratings.
Some important notes:
For songs recorded by others that have circulating versions with Prince’s vocals (e.g. “Neon Telephone”), please consider the version with Prince’s vocals.
For songs that have multiple versions (e.g. “U’re Gonna C Me” or “The Dance”), please assign a rating to the version you like best.
If you are uncertain about a song title (e.g. which version of "A Place in Heaven" you'd like to rate), check out available information at princevault. I have copied the list verbatim from these two links: http://princevault.com/in..._song_list and http://princevault.com/index.php?title=Songs:_Contribution_and_covers
The deadline for list submission is January 10th, 2017. After all lists are collated, I will count down the list in the open Facebook group here using the following point system:
Points = (Average rating – 5)*ln(number of ratings + 1)
Why this formula? It rewards songs with high numbers of votes, so we don’t have a situation where 5 people give a perfect rating of 10 to an obscure song (say, “2045 Radical Man”) ranks higher than a song with 100 ratings with an average of 9.9.
Feel free to share this link with any and all Prince fans you feel would be interested in participating.
Thank you to princevault for being such a wonderful resource of information on all things Prince, and that all of you for making the Prince fan community such a vibrant place.

Top 10 ? Thats going to be tough...but Ill do it..somehow

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Reply #2 posted 12/10/16 12:58am

Moonbeam

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Lovejunky said:

Moonbeam said:

Needless to say, 2016 has been a tough year for Prince fans. We’ve all had to cope with the loss in our own ways. Some of us have avoided Prince’s music because it serves as too painful of a reminder of what we have lost, while some of us have enveloped ourselves in his music as it is the only thing that brings comfort.
As 2016 draws to a close, I think now is a good time to celebrate his legacy, and one way to do that is to count down what collectively serve as our favorite Prince songs.
Consequently, I have collated a list of all known Prince songs as listed at princevault.com.

Here’s how to participate:
2. Rate as many of the listed songs as you like on a scale from 0 to 10, with 10 representing the most favourable rating and 0 the most unfavorable. You can get as precise as you’d like with ratings, so if you want to rate a song 9.99, feel free.
3. Once complete, send your list as an attachment to Princepoll2016@gmail.com. If you have Microsoft Excel, an easy way to do this is to follow the menu items File -> Download As -> Microsoft Excel. Otherwise, you can send a link to an edited Google Sheet with your ratings.
Some important notes:
For songs recorded by others that have circulating versions with Prince’s vocals (e.g. “Neon Telephone”), please consider the version with Prince’s vocals.
For songs that have multiple versions (e.g. “U’re Gonna C Me” or “The Dance”), please assign a rating to the version you like best.
If you are uncertain about a song title (e.g. which version of "A Place in Heaven" you'd like to rate), check out available information at princevault. I have copied the list verbatim from these two links: http://princevault.com/in..._song_list and http://princevault.com/index.php?title=Songs:_Contribution_and_covers
The deadline for list submission is January 10th, 2017. After all lists are collated, I will count down the list in the open Facebook group here using the following point system:
Points = (Average rating – 5)*ln(number of ratings + 1)
Why this formula? It rewards songs with high numbers of votes, so we don’t have a situation where 5 people give a perfect rating of 10 to an obscure song (say, “2045 Radical Man”) ranks higher than a song with 100 ratings with an average of 9.9.
Feel free to share this link with any and all Prince fans you feel would be interested in participating.
Thank you to princevault for being such a wonderful resource of information on all things Prince, and that all of you for making the Prince fan community such a vibrant place.

Top 10 ? Thats going to be tough...but Ill do it..somehow


Just to clarify, it's not a top 10. You can rate as many songs as you want. I am not asking for a ranked list of your favorite songs, but rather a score from 0-10 for each song you wish to rate.

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Reply #3 posted 12/10/16 3:04am

airth

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I both love and hate these things. I've been scrolling through firing off numbers. I think it's going to take me a month to settle my scores, and even then I'll want to change them. Perhaps in the future, it would be better to use a set list of words instead of numbers, like 'perfect' or 'diabolical', to get more consistency across everyone's ratings.

Anyway, I'm stuck wondering what to do with Old Friends 4 Sale. I can't even listen to the released version, but it's a straight 10 for the "original".

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Reply #4 posted 12/10/16 12:43pm

Moonbeam

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airth said:

I both love and hate these things. I've been scrolling through firing off numbers. I think it's going to take me a month to settle my scores, and even then I'll want to change them. Perhaps in the future, it would be better to use a set list of words instead of numbers, like 'perfect' or 'diabolical', to get more consistency across everyone's ratings.

Anyway, I'm stuck wondering what to do with Old Friends 4 Sale. I can't even listen to the released version, but it's a straight 10 for the "original".



Yeah, it'a tough to rate them all, and I feel like it will take me the whole month to be happy with my ratings as well!

For "Old Friends 4 Sale" (and any other song with multiple versions), rate your favorite. I plan on giving it a 10 for its original version as well. wink
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Reply #5 posted 12/23/16 3:57pm

sexton

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It's been awhile since I participated in a Moonbeam music poll. I'll definitely fill this out between the holidays or soon after. smile

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Reply #6 posted 12/23/16 5:32pm

bobgeorge77

Love the idea! I will give it a go (though it may take me awhile!). Thank u 4 doing this!

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Reply #7 posted 12/23/16 5:42pm

bobgeorge77

It is stating it is "view only" and asking for me to send a request to edit it... I sent the request...is there another way to start using the list?

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Reply #8 posted 12/23/16 6:18pm

Moonbeam

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sexton said:

It's been awhile since I participated in a Moonbeam music poll. I'll definitely fill this out between the holidays or soon after. smile




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Reply #9 posted 12/23/16 6:20pm

Moonbeam

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bobgeorge77 said:

It is stating it is "view only" and asking for me to send a request to edit it... I sent the request...is there another way to start using the list?




Glad you are interested! The main spreadsheet is view only to ensure that everyone starts with the same spreadsheet. You can make a copy by clicking File: Make a Copy or if you prefer, you can download the spreadsheet as an Excel file and fill in the ratings that way, by following File: Download As: Microsoft Excel.

Let me know if that doesn't work.
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Reply #10 posted 12/23/16 6:49pm

bobgeorge77

Moonbeam said:

bobgeorge77 said:

It is stating it is "view only" and asking for me to send a request to edit it... I sent the request...is there another way to start using the list?

Glad you are interested! The main spreadsheet is view only to ensure that everyone starts with the same spreadsheet. You can make a copy by clicking File: Make a Copy or if you prefer, you can download the spreadsheet as an Excel file and fill in the ratings that way, by following File: Download As: Microsoft Excel. Let me know if that doesn't work.

Great!!! Got it!! Thank u 4 the help (and the poll). I am looking forward to filling this out!!

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Reply #11 posted 12/23/16 6:53pm

Moonbeam

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bobgeorge77 said:



Moonbeam said:


bobgeorge77 said:

It is stating it is "view only" and asking for me to send a request to edit it... I sent the request...is there another way to start using the list?



Glad you are interested! The main spreadsheet is view only to ensure that everyone starts with the same spreadsheet. You can make a copy by clicking File: Make a Copy or if you prefer, you can download the spreadsheet as an Excel file and fill in the ratings that way, by following File: Download As: Microsoft Excel. Let me know if that doesn't work.

Great!!! Got it!! Thank u 4 the help (and the poll). I am looking forward to filling this out!!



No problem. Looking forward to your ballot!
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Reply #12 posted 12/23/16 7:43pm

ForeverPaisley

Lovejunky said:

Moonbeam said:

Needless to say, 2016 has been a tough year for Prince fans. We’ve all had to cope with the loss in our own ways. Some of us have avoided Prince’s music because it serves as too painful of a reminder of what we have lost, while some of us have enveloped ourselves in his music as it is the only thing that brings comfort.
As 2016 draws to a close, I think now is a good time to celebrate his legacy, and one way to do that is to count down what collectively serve as our favorite Prince songs.
Consequently, I have collated a list of all known Prince songs as listed at princevault.com.

Here’s how to participate:
2. Rate as many of the listed songs as you like on a scale from 0 to 10, with 10 representing the most favourable rating and 0 the most unfavorable. You can get as precise as you’d like with ratings, so if you want to rate a song 9.99, feel free.
3. Once complete, send your list as an attachment to Princepoll2016@gmail.com. If you have Microsoft Excel, an easy way to do this is to follow the menu items File -> Download As -> Microsoft Excel. Otherwise, you can send a link to an edited Google Sheet with your ratings.
Some important notes:
For songs recorded by others that have circulating versions with Prince’s vocals (e.g. “Neon Telephone”), please consider the version with Prince’s vocals.
For songs that have multiple versions (e.g. “U’re Gonna C Me” or “The Dance”), please assign a rating to the version you like best.
If you are uncertain about a song title (e.g. which version of "A Place in Heaven" you'd like to rate), check out available information at princevault. I have copied the list verbatim from these two links: http://princevault.com/in..._song_list and http://princevault.com/index.php?title=Songs:_Contribution_and_covers
The deadline for list submission is January 10th, 2017. After all lists are collated, I will count down the list in the open Facebook group here using the following point system:
Points = (Average rating – 5)*ln(number of ratings + 1)
Why this formula? It rewards songs with high numbers of votes, so we don’t have a situation where 5 people give a perfect rating of 10 to an obscure song (say, “2045 Radical Man”) ranks higher than a song with 100 ratings with an average of 9.9.
Feel free to share this link with any and all Prince fans you feel would be interested in participating.
Thank you to princevault for being such a wonderful resource of information on all things Prince, and that all of you for making the Prince fan community such a vibrant place.

Top 10 ? Thats going to be tough...but Ill do it..somehow

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Reply #13 posted 12/23/16 9:28pm

Moonbeam

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ForeverPaisley said:

Lovejunky said:

Top 10 ? Thats going to be tough...but Ill do it..somehow

yeahthat

Just to clarify, I'm not asking people to submit a ranked list of their favorite 10 (or any other number) songs. I'm hoping people will submit ratings of songs from a 0-10 scale for however many songs you'd like. If you want to rate 800 Prince songs and give 700 of them a perfect 10, I'm happy to count it!

As a rough rule, I'd rate the songs this way:

0: I'd love to keep a distance of several time zones between myself and this song
1: I hate this song
2: I REALLY dislike this song
3: I dislike this song
4: I kinda dislike this song
5: I'm ambivalent/have mixed feelings about this song
6: I kinda like this song
7: I like this song
8: I REALLY like this song
9: I love this song!
10: I can't live without this song!

So far, I've given 123 Prince songs a rating of a perfect 10, a further 51 a 9.5, and 78 a rating of 9.

Feel free to join in the Prince Song Poll 2016! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince songs, as decided by you!
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Reply #14 posted 12/23/16 9:43pm

gandorb

Impressive, Moonbeam. I look forward to participating when I get some time. I hope many others will too, which would make the results more representative.
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Reply #15 posted 12/24/16 3:15pm

Moonbeam

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gandorb said:

Impressive, Moonbeam. I look forward to participating when I get some time. I hope many others will too, which would make the results more representative.


Happy you are interested! And I agree, the more participants there are, the better the results will be.
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Reply #16 posted 12/25/16 3:58am

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Have downloaded and will do, but I can not rank every song as I have not heard them all. I am just using basic 1 - 10 marks anyway.

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Will try and finish by new year.

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Reply #17 posted 12/25/16 5:59am

kinskie

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Thank u, great idea!

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Reply #18 posted 12/26/16 2:28pm

Moonbeam

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Adorecream said:

Have downloaded and will do, but I can not rank every song as I have not heard them all. I am just using basic 1 - 10 marks anyway.


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Will try and finish by new year.



Great to see you in the group!

I don't think any of us will be able to rate them all: I think many are uncircilating.
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Reply #19 posted 12/28/16 1:43am

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All done and about 2 send. I have rated 829 songs.

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Some of the unreleased stuff dying to hear and found more out about his output, a song called Velvet Kitty Kat and Vagina? I knew he was obsessed with sex in the early 80s, but that is bizarre.

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Has anyone heard "Vagina", "Emotional Pump" or "We can Fuck" it will be interesting to see what marks they get lol

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Reply #20 posted 12/28/16 1:53am

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Adorecream said:

All done and about 2 send. I have rated 829 songs.


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Some of the unreleased stuff dying to hear and found more out about his output, a song called Velvet Kitty Kat and Vagina? I knew he was obsessed with sex in the early 80s, but that is bizarre.


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Has anyone heard "Vagina", "Emotional Pump" or "We can Fuck" it will be interesting to see what marks they get lol



829 songs is amazing! I'm currently around 560 and have a lot more listening/rating to do before I'm happy. :lol:

"Velvet Kitty Cat" leaked this year. I think Questlove played "Emotional Pump" at a recent DJ set.
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Reply #21 posted 12/29/16 5:50pm

214

Thanks this is very interesting, i will rate mine but mostof these songs i have ever listened to them.

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Reply #22 posted 12/30/16 12:54pm

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214 said:

Thanks this is very interesting, i will rate mine but mostof these songs i have ever listened to them.



Very glad that you are participating! I think all of us will be missing a lot of songs here - many have never been released or leaked from the vault, as far as I know.
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Reply #23 posted 01/03/17 1:04pm

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Ratings are due in a week! Happy to help anyone who needs it with the spreadsheet.
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Reply #24 posted 01/03/17 10:42pm

ForeverPaisley

verrrryyy comprehensive list! Wow. I haven't heard of many of these sad I have never really gone out of my way to buy the other artists/proteges/etc he has made albums for/with. If I do I would pick up the Janelle Monae one and maybe one other, but shrug I want Prince music and Prince Lyrics...with Prince vocals along with it too nod

I will do my best to sift through the ones I do know before the deadline though.

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Reply #25 posted 01/08/17 10:28pm

sexton

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I'll send my list right before the deadline. smile Almost 600 songs rated as of now!

[Edited 1/8/17 22:40pm]

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Reply #26 posted 01/09/17 6:43pm

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Looks like I'm going to extend the deadline a bit. Happy to take whatever ratings you are happy to submit.

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Reply #27 posted 01/10/17 1:07am

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That is nice of you, means we will get some more entries. So how does the formula work? Is it something like.

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Hypothetically

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Song A has 18 votes with an average of 8.5, so it's score is 3.5 (Avg - 5) x 18 = 63.0 points points and

Song B has 1 vote of 10 points , so 5 x 1 = 5.0 points

Song C has 51 votes with an average of 4.97, so -0.03 = -1.53points

Song D has 234 votes with an average of 9.68 points = 4.68 x 234 = 1095.12 points

or am I wrong?

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Reply #28 posted 01/10/17 7:19pm

Moonbeam

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Adorecream said:

That is nice of you, means we will get some more entries. So how does the formula work? Is it something like.

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Hypothetically

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Song A has 18 votes with an average of 8.5, so it's score is 3.5 (Avg - 5) x 18 = 63.0 points points and

Song B has 1 vote of 10 points , so 5 x 1 = 5.0 points

Song C has 51 votes with an average of 4.97, so -0.03 = -1.53points

Song D has 234 votes with an average of 9.68 points = 4.68 x 234 = 1095.12 points

or am I wrong?


You're close! The multiplier is not the number of votes, but the natural logarithm (denoted ln) of the number of votes + 1.

So song A would get a score of 3.5 x ln(18 + 1) = 3.5 x 2.9444 = 10.31 points
Song B would get a score of 5 x ln(1 + 1) = 5 x 0.6931 = 3.47 points
Song C would get a score of -0.03 x ln(51 + 1) = -0.03 x 3.9512 = -0.12 points
Song D would get a score of 4.68 x ln(234 + 1) = 4.68 x 5.4596 = 25.55 points

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Reply #29 posted 01/11/17 2:14am

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Moonbeam said:

ForeverPaisley said:

yeahthat

Just to clarify, I'm not asking people to submit a ranked list of their favorite 10 (or any other number) songs. I'm hoping people will submit ratings of songs from a 0-10 scale for however many songs you'd like. If you want to rate 800 Prince songs and give 700 of them a perfect 10, I'm happy to count it!

As a rough rule, I'd rate the songs this way:

0: I'd love to keep a distance of several time zones between myself and this song
1: I hate this song
2: I REALLY dislike this song
3: I dislike this song
4: I kinda dislike this song
5: I'm ambivalent/have mixed feelings about this song
6: I kinda like this song
7: I like this song
8: I REALLY like this song
9: I love this song!
10: I can't live without this song!

So far, I've given 123 Prince songs a rating of a perfect 10, a further 51 a 9.5, and 78 a rating of 9.

My rankings go

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10 - Stone cold classic - One of his finest and most important songs

9.5 - Exceptional

9 - Excellent -A great great song, but there is still better

8.5 - Very good/Great

8 - Good - definitely a good song

7.5 Satisfactory

7 - Average - a standard song on a good Prince album

6.5 Decent

6. Fair - There are some flaws, but still listenable

5.5 Mediocre

5 - So so, song is flawed but not so bad, still adds nothing to his cannon

4.5 Lacking

4 - Barely there - Just a song as Captain would say

3.5 Bad

3 - Really Bad, there is so much wrong with a song that scores this low

2.5 Terrible

2 - Dreadful, a real disgrace to his legacy

1.5 Don't ask

1 - For real Prince, are you fucking with us

0.5 - Complete shit, must be Boytrouble, Da da da or Mr Happy

0- Nothing can score this low, you get half a mrak for trying us with a song.

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So mine is really that 7 is average for a Prince song and anything over is a good Prince song and anything under is a Not so good Prince song. My average for his songs is 7.56 and albums is 7.35 out of 10. (Released and studio music only - no boots or live songs like asked for in the poll.

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