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Reply #120 posted 12/29/16 8:29am

GustavoRibas

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SoulAlive said:

^^^It appears that,in 1992,George made the comment "Prince needs to edit himself".

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- Well, I thought about that several times too. And I am a big fan.

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Reply #121 posted 12/29/16 8:56am

PeteSilas

GustavoRibas said:

SoulAlive said:

^^^It appears that,in 1992,George made the comment "Prince needs to edit himself".

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- Well, I thought about that several times too. And I am a big fan.

The only thing i can say in that regard, from my perspective, he could have done more revision before he released some songs. you could tell he was rushing through some productions, especially B sides. I think some of the tracks on batman sound like he rushed them too, but fore the most part, the only things i'd like to see edited was the hip hop stuff.

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Reply #122 posted 12/29/16 9:30am

kygermo

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Prince is good but c'mon, George Michael is in a different league.

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GM may not release three albums a year but his writing and production is of pure quality.

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GM has been very open and honest about the time when Prince rang him to get support for his 'Slave' campaign. To quote GM, he told Prince to "f**k Off".

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GM has always stood up to other stars as he doesn't subcribe to celebrity. He once slapped down Madonna once for being rube to a studio runner at Sarm West Studios.

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lol lol lol lol

Genuine fella, George seemed to be. Never heard about these things before. Much respect!

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Reply #123 posted 12/29/16 9:38am

PeteSilas

kygermo said:

darkroman said:

Prince is good but c'mon, George Michael is in a different league.

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GM may not release three albums a year but his writing and production is of pure quality.

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GM has been very open and honest about the time when Prince rang him to get support for his 'Slave' campaign. To quote GM, he told Prince to "f**k Off".

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GM has always stood up to other stars as he doesn't subcribe to celebrity. He once slapped down Madonna once for being rube to a studio runner at Sarm West Studios.

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lol lol lol lol

Genuine fella, George seemed to be. Never heard about these things before. Much respect!

i don't know how serious he was about any of that, meaning the celebrity thing. He was just as self-centered and self-aggrandizing as any of the 80's stars, just listen to his lyrics "me,me,me" And as far as his production, i lost interest with the listen without prejudice album, i'm listening to his music now an I have to say, i still love the shit out of his wham songs but still ain't getting into "Freedom 90". The celebrity thing, maybe he did outgrow that, honestly, he seemed like a pretty good guy from what we're hearing. I wonder why he told prince to fuck off? and did he say it that way? they were fighting the same enemy I wonder what his reason was. not fair really because he was heavily influenced by both Prince and MJ as well as all the black music before them but he took a lot from mj and prince, he did a lot of mj stuff with his vocals, the exhortations and whatnot.

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Reply #124 posted 12/29/16 12:39pm

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I m not sure if he told Prince to fuck off. But I saw him speaking that his case was different, because it was in the first contract he signed, while Prince re-signed with WB in the early 90s, after being a mega star. I agree with him.

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Reply #125 posted 12/29/16 12:57pm

mechanicalemot
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destinyc1 said:



RachB65 said:


One of his best performances ever, in my opinion. Anyone who can adequately stand in for Freddie Mercury with Queen and a choir to boot gets major points https://youtu.be/oYAR8RigqDA

Go back and re read the threads i posted that everyone should go listen to him sing somebody prior to his death.GM was the real deal as well.George was considered that blue eyed soul guy.Won r &b awards.He came along and YES stole some of prince's steam.Us 80 babies know this we were there.Then el debarge stole some of GM.Thats how it goes.People move on.



El Debarge and his siblings were doing it way before George Michael and in a league of their own
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Reply #126 posted 12/29/16 1:08pm

mechanicalemot
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PeteSilas said:



PennyPurple said:




radici27 said:


In light of George Michael's recent death can we take this post down?




This thread was started BEFORE GM's death. If you don't like it, then pass over it. There is no need to take it down.



actually, i do feel kinda bad for some of the things I said. they weren't really meant malicious but i didn't know he'd die in two weeks.




There's that self righteous indignation thing rearing its entitled little head again.
Like Prince say..."You know who I'm talking' about..."
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(I meant by this the demand that person made about taking this thread down)
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Reply #127 posted 12/29/16 1:09pm

CatB

KoolEaze said:

They had a lot of respect for each other, absolutely senseless to compare the two here.

By the way, if I recall correctly, George was at the Tränenpalast show in 1994 after the MTV Music Awards. My memories are a bit blurry but I think I saw Prince walking up the stairs toward George back then and they talked briefly.

Jean Paul Gaultier and Naomi Campbell were standing right next to me, and German singer Herbert Grönemeyer was right behind me.

Seriously, let both people rest in peace. I don´t like these comparisons.

He was, I was there too. George even standing on a chair to see better.

It seems like yesterday, who would've thought we'd lose both in the same year.

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Reply #128 posted 12/29/16 1:41pm

PeteSilas

GustavoRibas said:

I m not sure if he told Prince to fuck off. But I saw him speaking that his case was different, because it was in the first contract he signed, while Prince re-signed with WB in the early 90s, after being a mega star. I agree with him.

I imagine so but they both were working against the same force. Same issues I think. I think Bono said that about Prince too, that anyone who signs a contract these days without reading it deserves what he gets. Either way, Prince, with his work ethic, his spirit and heart was able to get himself out of the corner. My point is, an artist should not have to be as superhuman as Prince was just to get his level of freedom. Only his work ethic and talent saved him from being left broke a long time ago. Part of it being his own fault, my understanding was that he put all his money back into his art. i still have an article around 94 where, susan rogers i think, was bemoaning the fact that prince was becoming broke and irrevelant, she said something along the lines of "rem and u2 will be able to send their kids to college, poor Prince put all his money back into his art and now he's broke" you see, everyone had written him off at that point and truth is, anyone else would have been done at that point, anyone but Prince (or maybe James Brown).

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Reply #129 posted 12/29/16 1:47pm

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CatB said:



KoolEaze said:


They had a lot of respect for each other, absolutely senseless to compare the two here.


By the way, if I recall correctly, George was at the Tränenpalast show in 1994 after the MTV Music Awards. My memories are a bit blurry but I think I saw Prince walking up the stairs toward George back then and they talked briefly.


Jean Paul Gaultier and Naomi Campbell were standing right next to me, and German singer Herbert Grönemeyer was right behind me.


Seriously, let both people rest in peace. I don´t like these comparisons.









He was, I was there too. George even standing on a chair to see better.





It seems like yesterday, who would've thought we'd lose both in the same year.



Stood on a chair?? When a megastar does something like that at another Megastar performance....maybe its because he's really that enthralled and not even a little bit because he's also saying hey look at me too.
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(Jesus help me....I've become such a cynical troll. I know I should be ashamed)
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Reply #130 posted 12/29/16 1:48pm

PeteSilas

CatB said:

KoolEaze said:

They had a lot of respect for each other, absolutely senseless to compare the two here.

By the way, if I recall correctly, George was at the Tränenpalast show in 1994 after the MTV Music Awards. My memories are a bit blurry but I think I saw Prince walking up the stairs toward George back then and they talked briefly.

Jean Paul Gaultier and Naomi Campbell were standing right next to me, and German singer Herbert Grönemeyer was right behind me.

Seriously, let both people rest in peace. I don´t like these comparisons.

He was, I was there too. George even standing on a chair to see better.

It seems like yesterday, who would've thought we'd lose both in the same year.

george was there with the rest of the crowd?

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Reply #131 posted 12/29/16 2:08pm

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PeteSilas said:

CatB said:

He was, I was there too. George even standing on a chair to see better.

It seems like yesterday, who would've thought we'd lose both in the same year.

george was there with the rest of the crowd?

Yes, the whole show had more of an aftershow or club concert vibe to it.

Back then, most artists who participated at the MTV Music Awards also agreed to showing up or performing at other locations later that night but Prince was nowhere on the lists. So my friends and I started looking for possible venues where he might perform, and I saw some boxes with equipment and noticed the letters PRN on them, so that´s how we knew where he´d play (at the Tränenpalast in the Friedrichstr. in Berlin).

Entrance fee was 50 DM back then and there were many, many celebrities in attendance.

Pretty good show despite some technical problems.

Good times !

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Reply #132 posted 12/29/16 2:46pm

CatB

KoolEaze said:

PeteSilas said:

george was there with the rest of the crowd?

Yes, the whole show had more of an aftershow or club concert vibe to it.

Back then, most artists who participated at the MTV Music Awards also agreed to showing up or performing at other locations later that night but Prince was nowhere on the lists. So my friends and I started looking for possible venues where he might perform, and I saw some boxes with equipment and noticed the letters PRN on them, so that´s how we knew where he´d play (at the Tränenpalast in the Friedrichstr. in Berlin).

Entrance fee was 50 DM back then and there were many, many celebrities in attendance.

Pretty good show despite some technical problems.

Good times !

http://www.princevault.co...er_1994-am

It were good times, yes. We met him at the hotel between the MTV show and the aftershow concert and got invites. We were pretty tired in school that morning...

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Reply #133 posted 12/29/16 2:49pm

CatB

PeteSilas said:

CatB said:

He was, I was there too. George even standing on a chair to see better.

It seems like yesterday, who would've thought we'd lose both in the same year.

george was there with the rest of the crowd?

Yes, he was.

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Reply #134 posted 12/29/16 10:53pm

PeteSilas

CatB said:

KoolEaze said:

Yes, the whole show had more of an aftershow or club concert vibe to it.

Back then, most artists who participated at the MTV Music Awards also agreed to showing up or performing at other locations later that night but Prince was nowhere on the lists. So my friends and I started looking for possible venues where he might perform, and I saw some boxes with equipment and noticed the letters PRN on them, so that´s how we knew where he´d play (at the Tränenpalast in the Friedrichstr. in Berlin).

Entrance fee was 50 DM back then and there were many, many celebrities in attendance.

Pretty good show despite some technical problems.

Good times !

http://www.princevault.co...er_1994-am

It were good times, yes. We met him at the hotel between the MTV show and the aftershow concert and got invites. We were pretty tired in school that morning...

met who? george or prince.

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Reply #135 posted 12/30/16 4:02am

paisleypearl

PeteSilas said:



CatB said:




KoolEaze said:



Yes, the whole show had more of an aftershow or club concert vibe to it.


Back then, most artists who participated at the MTV Music Awards also agreed to showing up or performing at other locations later that night but Prince was nowhere on the lists. So my friends and I started looking for possible venues where he might perform, and I saw some boxes with equipment and noticed the letters PRN on them, so that´s how we knew where he´d play (at the Tränenpalast in the Friedrichstr. in Berlin).


Entrance fee was 50 DM back then and there were many, many celebrities in attendance.


Pretty good show despite some technical problems.


Good times !


http://www.princevault.co...er_1994-am





It were good times, yes. We met him at the hotel between the MTV show and the aftershow concert and got invites. We were pretty tired in school that morning...



met who? george or prince.



Knocked George off his chair and kissed Prince right on the lips?
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Reply #136 posted 12/30/16 12:19pm

CatB

paisleypearl said:

PeteSilas said:

met who? george or prince.

Knocked George off his chair and kissed Prince right on the lips?

LOL It was Prince we met at the hotel. He started to flirt, I shared the story before. I got to kiss him indeed but not that day.

I would never knock George off a chair, he was brilliant too. I was a big fan of his music and very glad to be able to see him there.

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Reply #137 posted 12/30/16 4:06pm

rap

GustavoRibas said:

SoulAlive said:

^^^It appears that,in 1992,George made the comment "Prince needs to edit himself".

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- Well, I thought about that several times too. And I am a big fan.

"I think, in some ways, it's easier to realize a vision that's singular and in your own head, but it's harder to keep the vision going without argument. Look at Prince. He's one of my favorite composers of the twentieth century. I really believe in him. But he needs an editor. He needs a row. He needs somebody in the studio to tell him to f*ck off. 'And guess what? There's six great tracks and four of them are pretty average. I'm sorry, sir. Your genius was having a bad day.' Does he have that? No chance." - Bono

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Reply #138 posted 12/30/16 5:00pm

paisleypearl

CatB said:



paisleypearl said:


PeteSilas said:


met who? george or prince.



Knocked George off his chair and kissed Prince right on the lips?



LOL It was Prince we met at the hotel. He started to flirt, I shared the story before. I got to kiss him indeed but not that day.



I would never knock George off a chair, he was brilliant too. I was a big fan of his music and very glad to be able to see him there.


Where is your story of Prince??
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Reply #139 posted 12/30/16 5:58pm

purplepoppy

rap said:

GustavoRibas said:

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- Well, I thought about that several times too. And I am a big fan.

"I think, in some ways, it's easier to realize a vision that's singular and in your own head, but it's harder to keep the vision going without argument. Look at Prince. He's one of my favorite composers of the twentieth century. I really believe in him. But he needs an editor. He needs a row. He needs somebody in the studio to tell him to f*ck off. 'And guess what? There's six great tracks and four of them are pretty average. I'm sorry, sir. Your genius was having a bad day.' Does he have that? No chance." - Bono

Is there anything that Bono doesn't have an opinion about? He needs an editor.

Brand new boogie without the hero.
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Reply #140 posted 12/30/16 6:12pm

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purplepoppy said:

rap said:

"I think, in some ways, it's easier to realize a vision that's singular and in your own head, but it's harder to keep the vision going without argument. Look at Prince. He's one of my favorite composers of the twentieth century. I really believe in him. But he needs an editor. He needs a row. He needs somebody in the studio to tell him to f*ck off. 'And guess what? There's six great tracks and four of them are pretty average. I'm sorry, sir. Your genius was having a bad day.' Does he have that? No chance." - Bono

Is there anything that Bono doesn't have an opinion about? He needs an editor.

Awe now, I still love my Bono! love

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Reply #141 posted 12/30/16 7:21pm

rap

purplepoppy said:

rap said:

"I think, in some ways, it's easier to realize a vision that's singular and in your own head, but it's harder to keep the vision going without argument. Look at Prince. He's one of my favorite composers of the twentieth century. I really believe in him. But he needs an editor. He needs a row. He needs somebody in the studio to tell him to f*ck off. 'And guess what? There's six great tracks and four of them are pretty average. I'm sorry, sir. Your genius was having a bad day.' Does he have that? No chance." - Bono

Is there anything that Bono doesn't have an opinion about? He needs an editor.

Bono's correct though.

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Reply #142 posted 12/31/16 3:13am

PeteSilas

CatB said:

paisleypearl said:

PeteSilas said: Knocked George off his chair and kissed Prince right on the lips?

LOL It was Prince we met at the hotel. He started to flirt, I shared the story before. I got to kiss him indeed but not that day.

I would never knock George off a chair, he was brilliant too. I was a big fan of his music and very glad to be able to see him there.

you got to kiss prince, show me the thread where you told about it. Not because I wanted to kiss prince, but because somehow, i never got the impression he was very touchy feely with his fans.

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Reply #143 posted 12/31/16 3:14am

PeteSilas

rap said:

purplepoppy said:

Is there anything that Bono doesn't have an opinion about? He needs an editor.

Bono's correct though.

bono's not correct, it's subjective. I could say the same thing about u2's music, in fact i never liked much of it, maybe five tracks of theirs, Prince's stuff is better to me.

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Reply #144 posted 12/31/16 3:16am

PeteSilas

rap said:

GustavoRibas said:

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- Well, I thought about that several times too. And I am a big fan.

"I think, in some ways, it's easier to realize a vision that's singular and in your own head, but it's harder to keep the vision going without argument. Look at Prince. He's one of my favorite composers of the twentieth century. I really believe in him. But he needs an editor. He needs a row. He needs somebody in the studio to tell him to f*ck off. 'And guess what? There's six great tracks and four of them are pretty average. I'm sorry, sir. Your genius was having a bad day.' Does he have that? No chance." - Bono

bono is also the guy who called him "more than a song and dance man" or words to that effect at the 88 grammy's. real astute boner, real astute.

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Reply #145 posted 12/31/16 4:01am

CatB

paisleypearl said:

CatB said:

LOL It was Prince we met at the hotel. He started to flirt, I shared the story before. I got to kiss him indeed but not that day.

I would never knock George off a chair, he was brilliant too. I was a big fan of his music and very glad to be able to see him there.

Where is your story of Prince??

I don't know which thread it was, it was in the summer when I posted how I first met him on that MTV night.

PeteSilas said:

CatB said:

LOL It was Prince we met at the hotel. He started to flirt, I shared the story before. I got to kiss him indeed but not that day.

I would never knock George off a chair, he was brilliant too. I was a big fan of his music and very glad to be able to see him there.

you got to kiss prince, show me the thread where you told about it. Not because I wanted to kiss prince, but because somehow, i never got the impression he was very touchy feely with his fans.

I didn't talk about the kiss but about that MTV night. He was not untouchable at all, he even invited fans to his places. At least at his places here in Europe. He was often lonely at his Paris apartment and even moved into hotels to have people around.

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Reply #146 posted 12/31/16 7:29am

PeteSilas

CatB said:

paisleypearl said:

CatB said:

you got to kiss prince, show me the thread where you told about it. Not because I wanted to kiss prince, but because somehow, i never got the impression he was very touchy feely with his fans.

I didn't talk about the kiss but about that MTV night. He was not untouchable at all, he even invited fans to his places. At least at his places here in Europe. He was often lonely at his Paris apartment and even moved into hotels to have people around.

is that right? you mean in the 80's right? I heard so many stories over the years, they don't exactly paint the picture of a guy who liked his boundaries invaded. One of the funnier ones was when he was not a star at all, he was promoting For You and he was kissing girls then a big chunky girl said "oh, he's giving out kisses but i want mine on the lips" Husney, his manager said he gave him a look and Husney cracked up. I've also heard, around purple rain era that he would rip up autographs and make girls cry and once said "show some respect" when crowds got too pushy. Now, the parade era was him trying to turn over a new leaf, some people liked it, some people didn't. I pretty much accepted him any way he came.

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Reply #147 posted 12/31/16 8:25am

CatB

PeteSilas said:

CatB said:

I didn't talk about the kiss but about that MTV night. He was not untouchable at all, he even invited fans to his places. At least at his places here in Europe. He was often lonely at his Paris apartment and even moved into hotels to have people around.

is that right? you mean in the 80's right? I heard so many stories over the years, they don't exactly paint the picture of a guy who liked his boundaries invaded. One of the funnier ones was when he was not a star at all, he was promoting For You and he was kissing girls then a big chunky girl said "oh, he's giving out kisses but i want mine on the lips" Husney, his manager said he gave him a look and Husney cracked up. I've also heard, around purple rain era that he would rip up autographs and make girls cry and once said "show some respect" when crowds got too pushy. Now, the parade era was him trying to turn over a new leaf, some people liked it, some people didn't. I pretty much accepted him any way he came.

Me too, that's why he trusted me. I don't care for hearsay, those stories, I wasn't around then. I was around in the 90s and 2000s and I can only speak about what I experienced.

Not really on topic anymore... Happy New Year everyone

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